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2005-09-20 Israel-Palestine

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Posted by Steve 2005-09-20 08:52|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 I'm wondering if the Israelis are making Gaza another Fallujha. If you understand the behavior of the enemy, let him make the best possible target for you to utterly destroy. Let the enemy demonstate behaviors which will neutralize outside opinion to the level that when they do go in, there will be little to really pay attention to. Hamas will stockpile and build up in one big kill zone. The Israelis will take the lessons learned from the infantry-armor-air support operations in Iraq to hammer Hamas in one tight controlled area, minimizing their casualties and maximizing Hamas'.

Posted by Glereper Angolutle3263 2005-09-20 09:30|| 2005-09-20 09:30|| Front Page Top

#2 I figure the Iraelies sre letting HAMAS and co. stockpile,and get set to attack Israel.Israel may or may no wait for the first rocket to hit,but they should let the Paleos strike the first blow.When that happens the IDF is going to turn Gaza into a pile of blood soaked rubble.

Posted by raptor 2005-09-20 10:30|| 2005-09-20 10:30|| Front Page Top

#3 I suspect a far more subtle idea, based on the idea that no matter what the Paleos do, they will be unable to mount an aggressive war--and then what will happen?

Right now, might makes right in Gaza. A man with a gun is king. But what happens when two or three men have guns, and each want to be king? Twenty or thirty? To or three hundred?

Israel, in the defense, can make itself impenetrable to them. How long can the Paleos live by eating bullets? How many jobs does being a gunman create? What good are a hundred anti-tank rockets with no tanks to fire them at?

Egypt will not tolerate their antics in Egypt, so there will be no escape for them there.

The Paleos will continue to fight the old war until they turn their guns on each other. After significant loss of life, the light will dawn that the value of all their guns is nothing. Each bloody warlord will rule his part of chaos much like warlords in Somalia.

Posted by Anonymoose 2005-09-20 10:47|| 2005-09-20 10:47|| Front Page Top

#4 I may have missed something, but it has seemed to me as though the various Palestinian factions consider enmity to Israel as the touchstone for legitimacy. So when they fight each other, they'll also have to keep fighting Israel. The cheapest way is to take credit for attacks your group didn't commit. I suppose the next cheapest is exaggerating the effects of the rockets you fired over the wall, and waving banners with names of cannon fodder that caught return fire. Then what? Amphibious attacks? Terrorist attacks using recruits from Israel and other countries? If they get enough explosives they might try breaking through the fence a few times, but that'd use up the trained fighters they need at home.
I've thought for a while that a bloody civil war was going to be the Palestinian's best hope for peace, but I don't think it'll be easy on Israel in the process.

Posted by James">James 2005-09-20 13:56|| http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com]">[http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com] 2005-09-20 13:56|| Front Page Top

#5 If the Paleos have a turf battle in Gaza, would al Q get into the vacuum created by Paleos blasting each other? I think that the Paleos would be self-defeating units. They lost their brains to attrition and work accidents. They all are second- and third-string players. But al Q heavies could take advantage of that situation.

If the Paleos get REALLY frisky vis a vis Israel, they will get pounded. They have nowhere to go, as Egypt will close the border. Then they are like fish in a barrel. The question would be how hard would the IDF hit them, as the Paleos would have a media PR campaign drummed up to show all the suffering in the hands of the Evil Zionistsâ¢. That would be how it would play out, IMHO. Would the US back Israel, or would the US try to stop the pounding that the Paleo armed morons deserve?

Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul 2005-09-20 16:54|| 2005-09-20 16:54|| Front Page Top

#6 If Gaza attacks, Israel can decide on a response that fits the situation.

How about this logic:
1) Gaza wasn't peaceful when occupied.
2) Gaza is more aggressive when free.

So if 1 and 2 aren't good, then how about forced relocation of the population to the west bank? Its the only humane solution (oh think of the children...)

Ho ho ho, go on, fire the missiles...

Posted by flash91 2005-09-20 18:49|| 2005-09-20 18:49|| Front Page Top

#7 Gaza is considered to be seriously overcrowded, the West Bank considerably less so at this time...

Posted by trailing wife 2005-09-20 19:06|| 2005-09-20 19:06|| Front Page Top

#8 Does Israel have Daisy Cutters?

Posted by Floluting Spang8699 2005-09-20 22:27|| 2005-09-20 22:27|| Front Page Top

#9 that's the MSM memem TW, and totally bullshit. Once the Paleo civil war swings into full auto mode, the "overcrowding" solves itself. You can't f*&k and fight

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-09-20 22:37|| 2005-09-20 22:37|| Front Page Top

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