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2005-08-09 Europe
French no longer bon vivants
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Posted by Steve White 2005-08-09 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Sounds like a cheap spot to vacation.
Posted by Spinelet Wheasing6888 2005-08-09 01:08||   2005-08-09 01:08|| Front Page Top

#2 Yeah, and with the American tourist trade down....
Posted by Flash Hupomoling8954 2005-08-09 08:43||   2005-08-09 08:43|| Front Page Top

#3 used to be, Merkins were 25% of the French tourist revenues

Can't imagine why that changed ..... heh
Posted by leader of the pack 2005-08-09 09:39||   2005-08-09 09:39|| Front Page Top

#4 Maybe they're staying home to make sure Granny and Gramps don't get vaporized in the next heat wave???
Posted by tu3031 2005-08-09 10:05||   2005-08-09 10:05|| Front Page Top

#5 In fact low wage people were/are against the 35 hour week. They wanted to work longer work and toget higher pay. It was the syndicates (very weak in France, except unfortunately at a couple key chokepoints like train and electricity) and specially the bobos (I think the american term is yuppies) who were for it
Posted by JFM">JFM  2005-08-09 11:12||   2005-08-09 11:12|| Front Page Top

#6 "bobos" = "bourgeois bohemian" (or vice versa) -- same term in Merkin, JFM.

By the way JFM, do they have any online resources in French or English confirming, for example, latest stats for tourism, like LotP mentioned in #3 ?

Posted by Carl in N.H.">Carl in N.H.  2005-08-09 12:17||   2005-08-09 12:17|| Front Page Top

#7 Cheer up, Frenchies. You may no longer be bon vivants, but you're still snotty a$$holes. And nobody can take that away from you.
Posted by BH 2005-08-09 15:18||   2005-08-09 15:18|| Front Page Top

#8 Yup, JFM has hit it right on the head - the poor sods that really need the money and are willing to work for it, are not allowed to because the bobos (brilliant term by the way) find it reprehensible that people have to work for a living.

I'm currently reading a fascinating book 'The Power of Productivity' by William Lewis that is very illuminating - one key point;


Most people consider 'social objectives' to be 'good.' Import tariffs, subsidized loans for small businesses, government disallowance of layoffs, and high minimum wages are all examples of economic policies designed to achieve social objectives. We can't have it both ways. These measures distort markets severely and limit productivity growth, slow overall economic growth, and cause unemployment. Rather than support these measures, it is better to level the playing field, create a bigger economic pie, and manage the distribution of that pie through the tax code for individuals.


And one other key point on productivity;


It is tempting to conclude that if productivity increases, then employment must go down. After all, if the workforce works more efficiently, then fewer workers are needed. This line of thought stops too soon. It fails to consider what happens after productivity is improved and workers are available to be redeployed somewhere else in the economy. It assumes incorrectly that the amount of business activity in an economy is fixed. In fact, if workers are available, entrepreneurs can match them with new business ideas and investment capital and thus increase the total amount of business activity in an economy. The production of goods and services thus increases, along with the productivity increase, and employment levels do not have to decrease.


Which is one of the most succinct descriptions I've read of the benefits of increased productivity.

I'm hardly a third of the way through it and finding nuggets on every page - great book!
Posted by Tony (UK) 2005-08-09 16:45||   2005-08-09 16:45|| Front Page Top

#9 Carl in NH asked for online resources about tourism in France.

The French statistsics institution is the insee but you could also have to look at the French ministry of Tourism website
Posted by JFM">JFM  2005-08-09 17:18||   2005-08-09 17:18|| Front Page Top

#10 My Sax Legume!

This line of thought stops too soon. It fails to consider what happens after productivity is improved and workers are available to be redeployed somewhere else in the economy

So simple, yet SO HARD FOR HAMMERHEADS TO UNDERSTAND, IT'S SIMPLE. Help me Joe.
Posted by Shipman 2005-08-09 18:08||   2005-08-09 18:08|| Front Page Top

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