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2005-07-15 Britain

London Bombers Were Angered by War in Iraq

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Posted by Verlaine in Iraq 2005-07-15 05:26|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 London Bombers Were Angered by War in Iraq

oh. well. this changes things. explains everything. understandable, what they did.

Posted by PlanetDan">PlanetDan 2005-07-15 07:57|| 2005-07-15 07:57|| Front Page Top

#2 "If they are indeed the ones who did it, it's because they believed it was right. They're in Heaven.

Another example of how "ordinary" muslims, even if they do not explicitely advocate violence, do condone it... anyway, if this isn't done for religious reasons, it is because of "identitary" reasons, the world being implicitely divided into "us" and "them", and you must support your kin : "my ummah, right or wrong".

This poses deep questions about muslims immigrants living in the west's loyalities... and from personnal experience, even for "moderate" or "non-religious" muslims (I'm not talking about would-be jihadis here, but co-workers), they feel muslim and/or tunisian, algerian,... before feeling french, say it plain and simple, and we're talking about the 2nd or 3rd generation (hence the still muslim first names, instead of the "Jean", "Philippe", "Lionel",...).

Posted by anonymous5089 2005-07-15 08:33|| 2005-07-15 08:33|| Front Page Top

#3 Can't say that I blame them about the names. But if they wanted good names, they shouldn;t have emigrated to France.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-07-15 08:45|| 2005-07-15 08:45|| Front Page Top

#4 Fighting for Islam = beheading innocent aid workers, murdering children, blowing up non-violent clerics, destroying infrastructure, etc. Right.

Unfortunately that is what fighting for Islam is and always has been -- just read the Koran and other Islamic Holy books....

Posted by CrazyFool 2005-07-15 08:54|| 2005-07-15 08:54|| Front Page Top

#5 "He became withdrawn and increasingly angry over the war in Iraq, according to those who knew him best. "

Arent these the same folks who were shocked that he blew himself up, and never saw anything coming?

Just scoring points off the tragedy, like so many.

Posted by liberalhawk 2005-07-15 09:53|| 2005-07-15 09:53|| Front Page Top

#6 Hearing the feedback from the young UK muzz-thug on the street it seems the problem is one of identity shaped through a religion and the associated political norms and culture it creates. The world to them is a very simple "us and them" place all due to the religion that recognizes no nation outside of the religion's directives. In a tolerant society (and you can't and don't get that from the religion's instructions) that alone is of little concern. The problem comes with what alot of muslims consider the religion's main instructions concerning the legitimacy of violence, extortion, enslavement and complete domination of the "other." This is why an injury or insult to the ummah by any "other" is always bemoaned as the worst imaginable atrocity in human history that requires retribution in the form of blind disproportional violence. The cultural, political and religious realms of life all coincide for them and unfettered violence directed at the "other" is not only allowed, but actively encouraged by the political tradition, culture and religion. This seems to be accepted by all elements from the rich and well-educated down to the unemployed petty dole-thug. To say the average muzz-thug "doesn't play well with others" is an understatement I feel. What does a tolerant society with many faiths and ethnicities do with this type of violent muslim misfit toy?

Posted by Tkat 2005-07-15 10:09|| 2005-07-15 10:09|| Front Page Top

#7 "If they are indeed the ones who did it, it's because they believed it was right. They're in Heaven. Have you ever been inspired in life?" he asked.

Are they human?

Posted by gromgoru 2005-07-15 10:29|| 2005-07-15 10:29|| Front Page Top

#8 Here's fervently hoping that there's bobbies following this twit around, watching who she's talking to, and promptly arresting the lot of them. Iqbal there, especially. He reeks of complicity.

Posted by Mitch H.">Mitch H. 2005-07-15 10:37|| http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/]">[http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/] 2005-07-15 10:37|| Front Page Top

#9 Let me understand this: this guy gets depressed about suicide bombers killing people in Iraq and Palestine so he goes out and becomes a suicide bomber? This only makes sense if you replace "depressed" with "inspired".

Posted by DD 2005-07-15 11:46|| 2005-07-15 11:46|| Front Page Top

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