Archived material Access restricted Article
Rantburg

Today's Front Page   View All of Wed 01/19/2005 View Tue 01/18/2005 View Mon 01/17/2005 View Sun 01/16/2005 View Sat 01/15/2005 View Fri 01/14/2005 View Thu 01/13/2005
1
2005-01-19 Iraq-Jordan
Chinese kidnapped?
Archived material is restricted to Rantburg regulars and members. If you need access email fred.pruitt=at=gmail.com with your nick to be added to the members list. There is no charge to join Rantburg as a member.
Posted by Fred 2005-01-19 00:00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Not to worry - the Chinese will pay.
Posted by gromky  2005-01-19 2:24:57 AM||   2005-01-19 2:24:57 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 The Chinese may even send 250 troops, like they did in Haiti, to shore up resolution against the insurgents from their 100 million man standing army... sure!!
Posted by smn 2005-01-19 3:17:41 AM||   2005-01-19 3:17:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Technically about 2 million, actually.

But hmm ...
Posted by Edward Yee  2005-01-19 3:57:30 AM|| [http://edwardyee.fanworks.net]  2005-01-19 3:57:30 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Threy could easily threaten to send 10,000 soldiers,for every hostage not released within a specific timetable. It would improve relations with us, at the very least.
Posted by plainslow 2005-01-19 8:09:35 AM||   2005-01-19 8:09:35 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Not much they can do. The reality is that most countries don't have very palatable options when their nationals are kidnapped. It doesn't make sense to risk the lives of hundreds of troops (if they're allowed in-country) to rescue 8 people. And if the Chinese knew where the hostages were, they would be better off having GI's carry out the rescue - that way some of the hostages actually make it out alive. I can almost guarantee that we have better intelligence in Iraq than the Chinese do.

The one thing they can do that we can't is talk to Saddam's henchmen (via backchannels), who are undoubtedly indebted to the Chinese for their assistance throughout the post-Desert Storm sanctions. These guys will want to keep good relations with the Chinese government in case they ever return to power. China can also work out a deal where they provide free weaponry to the guerrillas in exchange for their people.
Posted by Zhang Fei  2005-01-19 10:13:43 AM|| [http://timurileng.blogspot.com]  2005-01-19 10:13:43 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Nah, the Chinese will just have their ambassadors to Syria and Iran make a few calls and their boys will get released.
Posted by Steve  2005-01-19 10:31:03 AM||   2005-01-19 10:31:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Steve: Nah, the Chinese will just have their ambassadors to Syria and Iran make a few calls and their boys will get released.

The French may have tried this. Still took a while to get their journos back.
Posted by Zhang Fei  2005-01-19 10:35:24 AM|| [http://timurileng.blogspot.com]  2005-01-19 10:35:24 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 The criminals in Iraq, don't all have the same agenda. So no country is really safe from these kidnappings. The only thing people can do is make it not worth it for the criminals. Send trops. The one agenda they all have is get the coalition out. If they kidnap, and countries sent trouops, they would realize the kidnappings ain't working.
Posted by plainslow 2005-01-19 11:17:35 AM||   2005-01-19 11:17:35 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 As a negotiating tactic, convince the other side that there is something on the table they really didn't want (or intend) to have there... and then negotiate against that.
Posted by Dishman  2005-01-19 12:05:45 PM||   2005-01-19 12:05:45 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Technically, you are correct Edward Yee (#3), the military's army is about 2 million, however I was simply refering to the vast potential of civilian male reserves between 18 and 40 that China could 'tap' in a draft of national security defense! And being sarcastic about their international help!
Posted by Shaiter Spaiper1654 2005-01-19 3:38:39 PM||   2005-01-19 3:38:39 PM|| Front Page Top

02:34 trow the jews in the mediteranean sea
02:34 trow the jews in the mediteranean sea
02:30 languages
00:47 Slotle Sleager5568
00:47 Slotle Sleager5568
00:03 trailing wife
00:01 Cyber Sarge
23:58 enog
23:55 CrazyFool
23:55 98zulu
23:50 CrazyFool
23:48 enog
23:42 trailing wife
23:38 2b
23:21 Atomic Conspiracy
23:07 Bomb-a-rama
23:04 .com
23:03 Atomic Conspiracy
22:52 Anonymoose
22:51 Anonymoose
22:43 3dc
22:42 Al Bundy
22:42 James
22:42 Atomic Conspiracy









Paypal:
Google
Search WWW Search rantburg.com