Archived material Access restricted Article
Rantburg

Today's Front Page   View All of Sat 11/27/2004 View Fri 11/26/2004 View Thu 11/25/2004 View Wed 11/24/2004 View Tue 11/23/2004 View Mon 11/22/2004 View Sun 11/21/2004
1
2004-11-27 Iraq-Jordan
SUNNI INSURGENTS RELAY FEARS OF DEFEAT IN IRAQ
Archived material is restricted to Rantburg regulars and members. If you need access email fred.pruitt=at=gmail.com with your nick to be added to the members list. There is no charge to join Rantburg as a member.
Posted by Fred 2004-11-27 8:16:00 AM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 I remember of a post I saw in a Pashtoun group: the author (BTW, he was one of the nice guys, ie anti-taliban and pro-democracy) was angry against the Mullahs who had sent thousands of poor guys to be mown down by daisy cutters. He said something along the lines "what use is to put yourself in front of an angry bull".

And now, Zarkawi is unwillingky sending them a depairing message: going to Iraq doesn't mean going to fight infidels but going to be killed by indidels. Jihadis are many but there isn't an unlimited supply of them. Jihadis are fanatic but at one point they realise that continuing to throw themselves against the American forces means that at one point there will be no more Jihadis. And kaffirs win. the nice thing is that it is Zarkawi who is sapping jihadist morale ("hundreds of thousands dead").
Posted by JFM  2004-11-27 9:45:25 AM||   2004-11-27 9:45:25 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 "When the people see a strong horse and a weak horse, naturally they will favor the strong horse."
Posted by ObL 2004-11-27 1:21:31 PM||   2004-11-27 1:21:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 The sources said Al Qaida's allies, including the Salafist Brigade for Combat and Call, have sought to increase recruitment of Muslim volunteers to fight the coalition.

All the more reason to pulverize the enemy thoroughly in every single battle. The news that Zarqawi's thugs and allies rarely survive in one piece will get out, which should have the intended effect on potential recruits.
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-11-27 1:57:56 PM||   2004-11-27 1:57:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 This is a similar thing that my dad saw in the Pacific fighting the Japanese. On Guadalcanal and Cape Gloucester, hardly any prisoners. On Peleliu, virtually no prisoners, except the ones holed up in the caves surrendered after the officers burned their colors and they were on their own. On Okinawa, fanatical fighting until the end, then thousands gave up and disobeyed their officers. The Japanese needed to be beat down until they had enough and quit on their own.

Coalition forces need to keep hammering the Sunni insurgency until the average Joe sees the handwriting on the wall in size 64 type and quits.
Posted by Alaska Paul  2004-11-27 2:05:24 PM||   2004-11-27 2:05:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#5  On Okinawa, fanatical fighting until the end, then thousands gave up and disobeyed their officers

Yep, not what you would call wholesale surrender, but more IJA forces surrendered at Okinawa than in the rest of the theatre put together. I've always been curious about why, the size of the island? the training level? Morale? Who knows. I'd really like to see a study on this. I've a feeling the final assault on the plains would be bad, but not near has bad has feared.
Posted by Shipman 2004-11-27 3:23:03 PM||   2004-11-27 3:23:03 PM|| Front Page Top

00:03 lex
23:49 lex
23:43 Zenster
23:41 Frank G
23:09 Mike Sylwester
23:07 Mike Sylwester
23:06 Mike Sylwester
22:53 Capt America
22:47 jackal
22:39 RJB in JC MO
22:38 .com
22:35 .com
22:30 .com
22:13 Tom
22:06 Bomb-a-rama
22:03 phil_b
21:55 Bomb-a-rama
21:53 BigEd
21:52 Verlaine
21:49 Verlaine
21:46 mojo
21:43 Sock Puppet of Doom
21:20 CrazyFool
21:19 Tom









Paypal:
Google
Search WWW Search rantburg.com