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2004-07-13 Iraq-Jordan
2nd Strike! Official: Philippines Withdrawing Troops 'as Soon as Possible'
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Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-07-13 12:05:07 AM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 "A senior Philippine official said the timetable for the pullout of the small contingent remained unchanged, despite a suggestion by Deputy Foreign Secretary Rafael Seguis late Monday that the process could be speeded up."

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Posted by .com 2004-07-13 12:31:50 AM||   2004-07-13 12:31:50 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 I don't know how many of you know this but Victor Mordecai predicted 911, he also predicted this with the Pill-a-pino's Scary
You have to read his spew....
Posted by Long Hair Republican  2004-07-13 12:39:27 AM||   2004-07-13 12:39:27 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Long, it's the first I heard of that particular web-site, but I shall check it out, thanks.
Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-07-13 12:48:44 AM||   2004-07-13 12:48:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Filipino government has proven that it really cares about its citizens regardless of the US threat to halt finical aids if it withdrew forces.
Posted by Anonymous1781 2004-07-13 12:55:06 AM||   2004-07-13 12:55:06 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 A1781 - It's not about aid from the US, it's about facing the Izzoids. You can cower - or you can stand up and fight. Of course Arroyo cares about Filipino citizens -- and voters. Does she care about the fact that once you kow-tow you move UP, not down, the target list? We'll see.
Posted by .com 2004-07-13 12:59:10 AM||   2004-07-13 12:59:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 "When the enemy advances, we retreat; when the enemy halts, we harass; when the enemy tires, we attack; when the enemy retreats, we pursue." Some Chinese dude said this once.
Posted by 11A5S 2004-07-13 1:10:08 AM||   2004-07-13 1:10:08 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Anonymous1781 ...with a remark such as that, you should indeed remain very anonymous to all thinking people, living in the real world.

You actually buy into appeasing Islamic terrorists as a meaningful method which will simply stop their obsession with total global jihad?
Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-07-13 1:12:23 AM||   2004-07-13 1:12:23 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 A1781: Filipino government has proven that it really cares about its citizens regardless of the US threat to halt finical aids if it withdrew forces.

Actually, it has proven that it cares about one high-profile hostage in Iraq, but not about the greater danger to thousands in the Philippines when the US does withdraw both its financial and military assistance. Then the Filipino military can face the Chinese, the Malaysians, the Indonesians and the Moro Islamic Liberation Front all by its lonesome.
Posted by Zhang Fei  2004-07-13 1:16:45 AM|| [http://www.polipundit.com]  2004-07-13 1:16:45 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Zhang, you haven't noticed the real story; the dog that isn't barking, AFAICT, is that the government in the Philipines hasn't started pulling its workers out of Saudi Arabia, in spite of the fact that the jihadis have already killed several Filipinos there, and may kill more.
Posted by Phil Fraering 2004-07-13 1:25:53 AM|| [http://newsfromthefridge.typepad.com]  2004-07-13 1:25:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 Phil F -

You are on to it! At this point and time, make Mecca Radio active and all of Islam will succumb.
They will have nothing and will realize they are beaten, at least for another 1000 years. It could be just that simple.




Posted by Long Hair Republican  2004-07-13 1:39:20 AM||   2004-07-13 1:39:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 Pay the Danegeld, you'll never be rid of the Dane.
Posted by OldSpook 2004-07-13 2:56:08 AM||   2004-07-13 2:56:08 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 Phil F,

your are right on the money!

Anon 1781,

If the government of the Philippines really cared for his people, it would never allow them to work anywhere in the Middle East, specially in Saudi Arabia. Here, when they are not being treated like slaves, they are being decapitated.
Posted by Anonymous4617 2004-07-13 3:11:25 AM||   2004-07-13 3:11:25 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 Long Haired friend, Yep! If you look into the crystal ball what you see is an accamodation, that isnt accamodatious, or a confrontation.

I'm into seeing modern, western, liberal, freethinking, moral, scientific, republican democracy beat or destroy rote mezmerized stonemen.
Posted by Lucky 2004-07-13 3:21:20 AM||   2004-07-13 3:21:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 Give the embassy a call and ask them how it feels to be a coward.

(202) 467 9300 Philipines Embassy- Wash DC.
email wdcpe@aol.com
Posted by JackAssFestival 2004-07-13 8:16:53 AM||   2004-07-13 8:16:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#15 1781,when the Phillpine army was battling its homegrown and imported Islamic terrorists on its own they were getting thier ass whipped.They didn't start making headway until the Phillipine government asked the U.S. for logistical and training help from U.S. Special Forces.All that this turn tail and run appeasment is going to do is give the MLF a huge boost.
The best thing the Phillipine government could have done is ask for 5,000 member volunter force of PI military whose only mission in Iraq is to hunt down and kill(not capture,kill)terrorist wereever they are found.This should be announced far,wide and loud.Put the fear of God in thier sick ass'.
Posted by raptor 2004-07-13 8:41:34 AM||   2004-07-13 8:41:34 AM|| Front Page Top

#16 How much will this encourage their homegrown Jihadi boys to turn it up a couple of notches?
Posted by tu3031 2004-07-13 8:58:26 AM||   2004-07-13 8:58:26 AM|| Front Page Top

#17 It seems to be easier to beat the Philipines than Spain. And that's saying something.
Posted by Bulldog  2004-07-13 9:02:09 AM||   2004-07-13 9:02:09 AM|| Front Page Top

#18 Disgraceful announcement from Philippine govt (via Belmont Club):

Al Jazeera broadcast footage of Philippine deputy foreign minister Rafael Seguis reading out a statement, which the television station translated into Arabic, shortly after the expiry of a new execution deadline set by the militants. "In response to your request, the Philippines ... will withdraw its humanitarian forces as soon as possible," Seguis said according to the translation of the statement, addressed to the Islamic Army in Iraq group holding 46-year-old de la Cruz. "I hope the statement that I read will touch the heart of this group," said Seguis. "We know that Islam is the religion of peace and mercy."
Posted by Bulldog  2004-07-13 9:22:47 AM||   2004-07-13 9:22:47 AM|| Front Page Top

#19 Let's wait and see if the Filipinos really to withdraw. If so, then the US should withdraw all help in fighting their own Muslim guerrillas. They will have shown they are not worth one US soldier's life and not one dollar of US taxpayer's money. Help and friendship is a two way street. Let's see how many lives and how much territory the Filipinos will then piss away.
Posted by ed 2004-07-13 9:44:12 AM||   2004-07-13 9:44:12 AM|| Front Page Top

#20 I just sent an email to their embassy here in Wash DC.

"How does it feel to cower?
How does it feel to hang your head in shame?
How does it feel to run from your enemies?
How does it feel that that the Filipino people are not strong enough to face evil?"
Here is their email address if you want to add to it. wdcpe@aol.com
Posted by JackAssFestival 2004-07-13 9:55:19 AM||   2004-07-13 9:55:19 AM|| Front Page Top

#21 11A5S,forgot to add.That would be "Sun Zu's The Art of War".Sun Zu was a Chinnies warrior/philosipher/poet about2,500 years ago.His teachings are still taught at military acadmeys now.
Posted by raptor 2004-07-13 10:44:39 AM||   2004-07-13 10:44:39 AM|| Front Page Top

#22 I'm into seeing modern, western, liberal, freethinking, moral, scientific, republican democracy beat or destroy rote mezmerized stonemen.

Well the Eloy don't have a change if they don't fight back.
Posted by ed 2004-07-13 10:54:00 AM||   2004-07-13 10:54:00 AM|| Front Page Top

#23 That's chance not change.
Posted by ed 2004-07-13 10:58:25 AM||   2004-07-13 10:58:25 AM|| Front Page Top

#24 Just sent this to the embassy.

If you bow down to the terrorist in Iraq,then you might as well give-up and let the MLF and other terrorist take over in the Philippines.Removing your troops from Iraq because of the actions of terrorist is tantamount to cowardice.The chicken hearted running from Iraq will cause me to re-think America's commitment to the support of the Freedom of the Philippines.You will have proved that you are not worthy of the sacrifice of one American life,and certainly do not deserve in financial support from America.
Posted by raptor 2004-07-13 11:00:01 AM||   2004-07-13 11:00:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#25 Bowing down to the demands of hostage takers in Iraq is just the tip of the iceberg. I was reading somewhere yesterday of the HUGE amounts of ransoms paid to home grown terrorists and hostage takers for kidnapped victims in the Phillipines. Especially from Europeans kidnapped at some dive resort, to the tune of $1 million per person.

You make a stand now or you make a last, despairate stand when it is too late. The Phillipine government has failed its people. This is bad news, but there will be alot of storms before we see the sun again.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-07-13 12:03:21 PM||   2004-07-13 12:03:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#26 It's true. Using the ransom money, Abu Sayaf grew from the low 100s to 3000 overnight and an urban bombing campaign was launched. Kidnapping subsequently increased, including the two Burnham missionaries.
Posted by ed 2004-07-13 12:12:18 PM||   2004-07-13 12:12:18 PM|| Front Page Top

#27 I wonder how you say "pussies" in Tagalog?

If The Phillipines takes their 51 soldiers and sends them home to hunt Abu Sayyef, MILF and JI types, then this is no loss, especially since 30 more Aussies are being sent to Iraq. I would take 30 Aussies over 500 Filipinos any day. Hopefully, Arroyo will allow our SF types to help the army hunt for the bad guys despite this total wuss move.
Posted by Tibor 2004-07-13 12:43:03 PM||   2004-07-13 12:43:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#28 Must read Wretchard re: the price we paid in blood to help them.
Posted by Anonymous5738 2004-07-13 3:24:02 PM||   2004-07-13 3:24:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#29 Check out this reprint "The new Islamic fascism"
Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-07-13 7:06:44 PM|| [http://www.sullivan-county.com/id3/islamic_fascism2.htm]  2004-07-13 7:06:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#30 Tempting as it might seem, we cannot abandon the Philippines' 80m people to Islam or to China. We must continue to deny the Filipino population, the location and the resources of the Philippine islands to the enemy. We colonized the Philippines all those years ago to prevent other powers from establishing a stranglehold in the area. Today, we must safeguard Filipino sovereignty to prevent the expansion of either Muslim or Chinese empire.
Posted by Zhang Fei  2004-07-13 11:33:02 PM||   2004-07-13 11:33:02 PM|| Front Page Top

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