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2004-06-30 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

Iran will defeat US in nuclear standoff, Rafsanjani says

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Posted by Anonymoose 2004-06-30 12:00:00 AM|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 "To the end", huh?

Oh, and I could think of a couple of thousand ways we could stop it.

Posted by beer_me 2004-06-30 1:03:12 AM|| 2004-06-30 1:03:12 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 We should tell the Iranians, "We accept. We'll start things off by firing our nukes at you and then you can reply. What? You don't have any yet? Oh, well, that's just too bad, we have lots."

Posted by Silentbrick 2004-06-30 1:05:43 AM|| 2004-06-30 1:05:43 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 I love the bomb, but it's a strange love.

Rafsanjani has apparently never heard the magic words of the True Faith: "Hiroshima" "Nagasaki" and "Curtis LeMay"

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2004-06-30 1:42:26 AM|| 2004-06-30 1:42:26 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Of course, if Curtis LeMay were still leading the USAF, he'd plan for nuking any city in Iran with more than three buildings. Good old carpet nuking.

Posted by Silentbrick 2004-06-30 1:46:31 AM|| 2004-06-30 1:46:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 I have it on pretty good authority (Weekly World News?) that ol' Curt did not in fact die in 1987. Instead, he has been placed in suspended animation in a special chamber beneath the Pentagon, ready to be revived and unleashed if the occasion warrants.
At least, that's what I want the Iranians to believe.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2004-06-30 1:53:19 AM|| 2004-06-30 1:53:19 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Why would he say that?

Posted by Lucky 2004-06-30 3:05:08 AM|| 2004-06-30 3:05:08 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Iran will defeat two camels stuck backwards in a tent only if the camels are blind & deaf.

To Rafsanjani, ballicks buddy!

Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-06-30 4:18:59 AM|| [http://www.nationalreview.com/ledeen/ledeen200406290922.asp] 2004-06-30 4:18:59 AM|| Front Page Top

#8
Baghdad Bob - Tehran Raf.

Posted by Sam 2004-06-30 5:04:52 AM|| 2004-06-30 5:04:52 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Baghdad Bob - Tehran Raf.

Posted by Sam 2004-06-30 5:15:41 AM|| 2004-06-30 5:15:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 Sam, nobody can compare to Baghdad Bob. He was endless entertainment.

Posted by Charles 2004-06-30 7:50:41 AM|| 2004-06-30 7:50:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 You guys talk the talk, but...

Posted by Dog Bites Trolls 2004-06-30 8:12:14 AM|| 2004-06-30 8:12:14 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 C'mon DBT, you witless twit, many here have walked the walk. You've never experienced anything more threatening than having your threads dissed. FOAD, pretender.

Not one contribution, ever. Not one original thought. Not one constructive post. Not one attempt to engage. No experience. No knowledge. No viewpoint, just drivel and DU dirt. Fred, you're just tooooooo nice bro, lol!

Posted by .com 2004-06-30 8:40:42 AM|| 2004-06-30 8:40:42 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 Iran must be prevented by any means necessary. Israel could help here.

If the Iranians get the bomb they'll be happy to use it since they don't fear death (due to the whole 72 virgins thing) they'll be happy to sacrifice a million of theirs for a million of ours.

It's not like Russia where you can have a policy of MAD and expect it actually to be a deterrent.

#11: GAZE
#12: GAZE

Posted by Anon1 2004-06-30 9:47:39 AM|| 2004-06-30 9:47:39 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 Anon1 - Do you really want to rock 'n roll? Are you really so insecure that someone who disagrees with your opinions must be bowed? Well, if that's the case, you're both a fool and welcome to compare knowledge and experience. Your call.

Posted by .com 2004-06-30 9:55:27 AM|| 2004-06-30 9:55:27 AM|| Front Page Top

#15 Anything useful in posts #12 or #14? No. Pointless ad hominem troll-like spewage? Yep.

....GAZE.....

Posted by Anon1 2004-06-30 9:57:46 AM|| 2004-06-30 9:57:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#16 Sigh.

Anon1 - All this buttering up you're engaged in, is that substance? You're just trying to horn in on the Hot Buttered Grub Clusters concession. Others here are not so shallow as to miss your intentions.

Just reply to the posts, stick to the topic, and leave your self-aggrandizing ad-hominem attacks in the bit bucket. You are (classically) guilty of what you blame on others.

TRANCE, Anon1, the word is TRANCE.

Posted by .com 2004-06-30 10:07:38 AM|| 2004-06-30 10:07:38 AM|| Front Page Top

#17 early 2005 will be the time we either confront the iranians seriously or they will in fact move on to be a nuke state...and god help us if kerry is in office..we would automatically have our security dictated by his foriegn "friends"....

Posted by Dan 2004-06-30 10:37:47 AM|| 2004-06-30 10:37:47 AM|| Front Page Top

#18 I love it. Trolls are calling regulars "trolls." "GAZE" was something frequently used at Charle's place before registration was required. I wonder if this troll wandered from over there.

Posted by therien 2004-06-30 11:11:41 AM|| 2004-06-30 11:11:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#19 Atomic Conspiracy are you ex-SAC by chance?

Anon1 Are you ex-LGF by chance?

Posted by Shipman 2004-06-30 11:21:29 AM|| 2004-06-30 11:21:29 AM|| Front Page Top

#20 Anon1 couldn't be more wrong--MAD "worked" for the USSR because their people didn't know they were at risk of being annihilated but the Kremlin elite was more than happy to gamble their lives because they had shelters!
The Iranians are a different story--they wouldn't be told anymore than the Russians, but they hate the government and enough news gets through to them (unlike the Russkis) for them to fear and abhor the idea that the mullahs would risk their own lives for their jihad.
No matter, the Iranians must be confronted and "regime changed" one way or another.

Posted by Jen 2004-06-30 11:27:59 AM|| [http://www.greatestjeneration.com] 2004-06-30 11:27:59 AM|| Front Page Top

#21 I dunno about Anon1, but DBT was a longtime lgf troll ("Nastification Agenda"/"Camel Prophet").

Posted by someone 2004-06-30 11:42:13 AM|| 2004-06-30 11:42:13 AM|| Front Page Top

#22 Really?? I used to find Camel Prophet funny... but I haven't been around for a while. DBT doesn't approach funny.

Posted by therien 2004-06-30 12:00:34 PM|| 2004-06-30 12:00:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 What happened to the Iranian protests and rioting in the streets. Who can the US assist the protestors and the uprising without getting too involved?

Posted by yank 2004-06-30 1:07:20 PM|| [politicaljunky.blogspot.com] 2004-06-30 1:07:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 Yahnk, those protests are ongoing but are not reported. The admin has done precious little to support domestic resistance in Iran, military or otherwise. They can and should be doing much much more, at least from what I can see. Perhaps the team at Foggy Bottom is restraining our actions there. More likely it is the preoccupation with Iraq.

Know that Iran is the next target and is one that the Pentagon has their sights upon. When and how we will really engage them has yet to be seen.

Posted by remote man 2004-06-30 1:46:13 PM|| 2004-06-30 1:46:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 Possible timeline:
1Q2005: Bush re-inaugral/S.O.U. Speech "Iran is close to functional nuke, U.N. must act". UN dithers. Bush/Blair brief Allawi on "alternatives"
2Q2005: Allawi (secretly) grants overflight to IAF airstrikes. Begin "Operation Jericho" Massive airstrikes on key installations. Iranian counterstrikes disorganized.
Allawi/Bush/Blair move troops to border. Covert action teams within Iran begins insurrection. Multi-faction Iranian civil war begins.
3Q2005: Iran pleads w/U.N. More dithering. Covert action able to decapitate mullah leadership. "Rebel" leaders sue for cease-fire. Bush/Blair/Allawi bring in armed "humanitarian" assistance.
4Q2005: Iran becomes "protectorate" of U.N.

Posted by Sparks 2004-06-30 3:23:17 PM|| 2004-06-30 3:23:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#26 oh yeah! thanks someone! I thought I remember that nutty cadence.

Posted by Shipman 2004-06-30 3:45:57 PM|| 2004-06-30 3:45:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#27 hehe. Y'all might beat us in a nuclear standoff, but I think we gotcha covered in a nuclear tradeoff. Just something to think about.

Posted by BH 2004-06-30 4:32:01 PM|| 2004-06-30 4:32:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#28 gow about the israeli's stopping it like they did saddams back in the 80's

Posted by smokeysinse 2004-06-30 5:09:09 PM|| 2004-06-30 5:09:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#29 gow about the israeli's stopping it like they did saddams back in the 80's

Posted by smokeysinse 2004-06-30 5:09:21 PM|| 2004-06-30 5:09:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#30 #19
"Atomic Conspiracy are you ex-SAC by chance?"

Sort of, I was in the Army but I worked closely with SAC during a couple of periods in my career.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2004-06-30 6:39:07 PM|| 2004-06-30 6:39:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#31 MAD worked with the USSR because they were rational. MAD will not work work with Iran because they are Mad Mullahs. They have publicly said that they will annhilate Israel with a nuke mounted on one of their Shahab-3's.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-06-30 6:50:21 PM|| 2004-06-30 6:50:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#32 NS Kursheve said he'd bury us. He was bluffing.
The Mullahs are bluffing. All gawds chillun who have power want to live and enjoy their power... nuclear blasts tend to remove your power structure. It holds for Mullahs else they'd already have strapped on a bomb.

Posted by Shipman 2004-06-30 8:46:21 PM|| 2004-06-30 8:46:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#33 Alternative Timeline 1Q2005: Kerry inaugurated/SOU speech reveals that the US is the true threat to mideast peace. 2Q2005: Realizes that Iran shold be pacified. 3Q2005: Sends special ambassador Bill Clinton to negotiate with Iran. 4Q2005: US begins construction of advanced nuclear power plants in Iran.

Hey - this did work with North Korea --- in an alternative reality.

Posted by JP 2004-06-30 10:47:04 PM|| 2004-06-30 10:47:04 PM|| Front Page Top

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