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2004-06-26 Africa: Horn
US to impose sanctions on Darfur militia members
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Posted by Fred 2004-06-26 6:12:50 PM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 That'll stop 'em much more effectively than just shooting them.
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-06-26 6:18:52 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/]  2004-06-26 6:18:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 no travel to the US for these militia members? Exactly when have they even tried? weakass response. RC is right..armimg the villagers is the moral and correct thing to do, and if it fucks with the empire quest of the Master Race™ in Khartoum, so much the better
Posted by Frank G  2004-06-26 6:23:10 PM||   2004-06-26 6:23:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Frank G: no travel to the US for these militia members? Exactly when have they even tried? weakass response. RC is right..armimg the villagers is the moral and correct thing to do, and if it fucks with the empire quest of the Master Race™ in Khartoum, so much the better

We don't really know if the people in Darfur are exactly our friends. And if we take responsibility for them, what happens when they lose? Do we take on the burden of hundreds of thousands of Muslim refugees? Much as I sympathize with the victims of the massacres, I think we approach this situation very, very gingerly.

If we're going to adopt a cause, let's adopt the cause of the *Christians* in Indonesia who are the victims of periodic massacres. At least if they lose and have to seek asylum, we get a flood of good-looking *Christian* babes coming here.
Posted by Zhang Fei  2004-06-26 6:29:37 PM|| [http://www.polipundit.com]  2004-06-26 6:29:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 When I first became aware of the resurgence of the slave trade in Africa, I took a look at the groups trying to put a stop to it. Their approaches fell into two categories: "raising awareness" and buying then freeing slaves. The first is typical useless bullshit -- it makes the Movement feel good, but it doesn't put a stop to anything.

Buying then freeing slaves is worse than useless, as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, it frees some of them. The ones not lucky enough to be bought by a Westerner are still slaves, though. Oh, and the money just fuels more slave raids and increases the weapon gap between the slaves and the slavers.

If you can't get a strong -- and REAL -- government to outlaw slavery, the only real way to fight slavery is to do something about the slavers. Kill them; make their raids more dangerous; drive up the cost of taking slaves. That will drive up the cost of buying them; if you keep up the pressure, eventually the price of a slave will be more than anyone can pay.

Of course, with Moslem Arabs involved, the economics don't necessarily mean anything. They seem to view owning slaves as a religious and ethnic right; who knows if the economics would have any effect.
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-06-26 6:42:11 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/]  2004-06-26 6:42:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 nothing bad with that, ZF
Posted by Frank G  2004-06-26 6:42:16 PM||   2004-06-26 6:42:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 well, we can buy the rest of them - price: leaving Khartoum intact?
Posted by Frank G  2004-06-26 6:45:48 PM||   2004-06-26 6:45:48 PM|| Front Page Top

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