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2004-04-19 Europe
The scandal of the Spanish elections (link in Spanish)
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Posted by JFM 2004-04-19 10:56:02 AM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 For those of you who can read Spanish there are more juicy details at:

http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2004/04/19/enespecial/1082356558.html

Diclaimer: I am not familiar with "El Mundo" so I don't know if how serious it is. Style is quite sensationalistic like in the tabloid press.

About Libertad Digital incites me to think it is a serious site but their articles are based on the allegations of "El Mundo" and they are very right wing (ie likely to believe the worst about the socialists).

Rajoy (Aznar's succesor) has reacted about the allegations of "El Mundo" and this makes me think El Mundo has some credibility in the Spanish public (ie not a paper known for telling bin Laden is an lien of another planet).
Posted by JFM  2004-04-19 12:35:00 PM||   2004-04-19 12:35:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Paging Mr. Stone, Mr. Oliver Stone! Your script is ready.
Posted by Steve  2004-04-19 12:39:47 PM||   2004-04-19 12:39:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 The two theses seem to be mutually exclusive. I.e., if they deliberately falsified evidence that suggested it was ETA, how is it that they, at the same time, framed Islamist groups. Did the police frame both groups? I think thesis A is more plausible than thesis B.
Posted by Sawt al-Shebaab 2004-04-19 1:48:47 PM||   2004-04-19 1:48:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Perhaps I wasn't clear: on one side the government was being fed information suggesting it was ETA (the Titadyne explosive). On another side there was a series of "miracles" who led the police to arrest some Muslims involved in petty crime but presented as belonging to Al Quaida. This was aired by radios linked to the socialists making the government appear as if was hiding about the Islamist track and as if bombings were due to Spain's presence in Iraq.

Then another series of "miracles" leading to another group of Muslims but then the police commits a series of blunders (like setting a HIGHLY visible watch by plain clothes agents who kept weapons in hand leading to the alleged islamists discovering them) ending in the suicide of the muslims who now cannot talk. BTW none of the Moroccans arrested in the first batch has confessed.
Posted by JFM  2004-04-19 4:46:14 PM||   2004-04-19 4:46:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 I am from Portugal. El Mundo is one of the 3 big spanish newspapers first is El Pais, La Vanguardia and El Mundo.
Posted by Anonymous4075  2004-04-19 6:25:56 PM||   2004-04-19 6:25:56 PM|| Front Page Top

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