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2004-04-06 Iraq-Jordan

26 Iraqis Die in U.S. Strike on Fallujah

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Posted by Fred 2004-04-06 9:55:41 PM|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 well, boo friggin' hoo

Posted by Frank G 2004-04-06 10:20:48 PM|| 2004-04-06 10:20:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 34! Thats all? When the population realises that hanging tough with the dead enders is a kiss of death, hearts and minds might change.

Posted by Lucky 2004-04-06 10:31:23 PM|| 2004-04-06 10:31:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Okay, Fred, it's a start, but I still see video footage of well armed men, with AK's and RPG's parading here and there, laughing and seen smiling if they don't have a mask covering their face...these are the guys that have to be engaged and taken out on short order, meaning immediately.

They should not be allowed to congregate in the first place, or we end up with battles like Ramdai.

Not to get political, but an entirely different past year may have been painted had Gardner rather than Bremmer stayed on. In retrospect, Bremmer's decision to disband the Iraqi Army may prove to be the overall crucial bad decision.

Plus not killing Sadr some 8 plus months ago...

Posted by Traveller 2004-04-06 10:31:41 PM|| 2004-04-06 10:31:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 A good MOAB would change a few hearts and minds.

Posted by JackAssFestival 2004-04-06 10:38:21 PM|| 2004-04-06 10:38:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 26 dead, so far. Let's see... 4 civilians murdered and mutilated, six times as many struck down in retaliation. How cute are you now, Fallujah? Are you celebrating? Dancing that faggy arab dance in the streets? You don't have to answer that; we'll talk again when it's 260 dead Iraqis. We haven't even begun to play with you satan-worshipping moon-cultists.

Posted by BH 2004-04-06 10:42:36 PM|| 2004-04-06 10:42:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Maybe no a MOAB, but a couple of Hellfires poped at armed gatherings might convince folks that the hard boyz ain't healthy to be around.

Posted by mojo 2004-04-06 10:43:24 PM|| 2004-04-06 10:43:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 BH - Lol! "Dancing that faggy arab dance..."

It would almost be worth the RT airfare to fly you over to Manama, Bahrain, and take you to the StarLite Club in the Gulf Hotel -- just to watch you -- watching them. I can just see your eyes rolling slowly upward and the steam coming off your head, now! *wham* Fucking dead Saudis all over the place, Lol!

Posted by .com 2004-04-06 10:50:19 PM|| 2004-04-06 10:50:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Good points Trav, but thats old news now. Would have been nice to have turned some General or two with promises of "your our guy and those palaces are your new digs".

I once thought that the WoT wasn't going to be won by fighting it out in Iraq. But now I think, MAYBE, that could be true. How to pull Iran into this conflict so as to galvinise American opinion against Iran and their meddling.

But I still think without the toppling of the mullahs we're in a thirty years war with mass death as the price to pay.

Posted by Lucky 2004-04-06 10:50:43 PM|| 2004-04-06 10:50:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Well, Exactly, Lucky. I know that it is old news but the de-Bathification as the reason disbanding the Iraqi army seemed odd to me then, and seems to be biting us the butt now...the point was to keep them employed and maybe hence a little loyal to their new paymasters...but also, General Patton like with his De-Nazifacation, a realistic apparaisal that, We may need them later.

Be that as it may, I was hoping against hope that Iraq would help avoid the "Big Killing," to come...but now is maybe our last crucial chance to nip this in the bud.

26 dead in Fallujah ain't going to do it. The world may scream, but a headline like, "10,000 Dead in Fallujah, and oddly, all were males between the ages of 15 and 40....." is what I want to see.

If we are not careful, we just may end up being booted out of Iraq even before June 30.

Posted by Traveller 2004-04-06 11:07:32 PM|| 2004-04-06 11:07:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 If the army hadn't been disbanded, and some Baath loyalist in it had decided to pull what we're seeing this week, it would have been with a hell of a lot more organization, training, and supplies. And a lot of that would have come from US. They also would have had a lot of credibility, due to continuity from the previous regime and, well, having an army we kept running behind them.

As it is, they're criminals rebelling against the acknowledged government of Iraq. They may have supplies, and some of them may have training, but there probably won't be as many people running to join them.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-04-06 11:22:39 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/] 2004-04-06 11:22:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Well Robert, I am sure that those were all factors in Bremmer's mind...(actually, I cannot blame Bremmer for this at all. He was specifically, and maybe against his judgment, ordered by Washington to disband the Iraqi Army).

Posted by Traveller 2004-04-06 11:33:26 PM|| 2004-04-06 11:33:26 PM|| Front Page Top

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