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2004-03-30 Europe

UK Moslems Whine About Declaring Allegiance to the Queen and to Democratic Values

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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-03-30 6:43:36 PM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Tough. You're guests abide by the house rules.

Posted by Hiryu 2004-03-30 6:44:53 PM|| 2004-03-30 6:44:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Not only should any new citizens have to swear this oath in order to obtain their citizenship, the British should go back to all non-native-born who got citizenship in the last 20 years and require them to swear the oath publicly, too, or revoke their citizenship.

Not that I think it would matter. The Koran tells Muslims it's OK to lie to infidels.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2004-03-30 6:48:22 PM|| 2004-03-30 6:48:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 I am getting very fed up of our Muslim 'guests'.

Once their boomers get through and slaughter 200+ innocents (and they will), things will be very different. Comments like this won't be laughed off anymore, let alone ignored.

And as to the Queen not being worthy of greetings, I would just like to point out that the Armed Forces of this country swear an oath of allegiance to the Queen, not the Government of the day. Think on that - shithead.

Posted by Tony (UK) 2004-03-30 6:53:58 PM|| 2004-03-30 6:53:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 I'm tired of hearing about the Arab "sensibilities". It's a crutch for all their mis-deeds. The request sounds ok to me. Can you imagine though Jesse Jackson okaying that in the USA? The Dems would go ballistic and the marchers would run out of walking shoes in protest. Go UK..Gotta love it.

Posted by Bill Nelson 2004-03-30 6:56:20 PM|| 2004-03-30 6:56:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Everytime I hear these moose-limbs assume the position of authority on "freedom" it makes me wretch. Their idea of freedom is the ability to kill the khufir at will...with Allahs blessing of course. If you don't like the rules, go back to your cess-pool thugogracy of a country. Nooone cares about your sensibilities.

Posted by Rex Mundi 2004-03-30 7:09:42 PM|| 2004-03-30 7:09:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Where does it say to worship the Queen? It does say to remain true and faithful but that is not worship. He is saying that Muslims cannot be faithful and true to anyone but Allah?

Second, Islam is not a Race. It is a religion which you can enter into by CHOICE and leave by CHOICE.

And it is not just Muslims who would have to pledge allegiance to the queen by EVERYONE. If I (an american) sought british citizenship I would have to take the same pledge. How is that RACIST (not that Islam is a race) or Hateful.

If you dont like it. Go home.

Posted by CrazyFool 2004-03-30 7:16:57 PM|| 2004-03-30 7:16:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 dumb ass phucks! no asks you to change religions just swear loyalty to your adopted country...do not like it do not come...in the US to obtain a citizenship you also must swear loyalty..kinda of makes sense..unless you have nothing but contempt for your adopted country and in that case your not wanted...

Posted by Dan 2004-03-30 7:20:43 PM|| 2004-03-30 7:20:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Go UK. Phucks like this have no place in your country, or in any other country worthy of the name. I just hope the PC types don't win this one, not that I expect them too, but I'm sure they're already having the vapors...

Posted by RMcLeod 2004-03-30 7:26:52 PM|| 2004-03-30 7:26:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 The Islamists have been pushing and pushing the envelope, just like they have done in Frawnce. Now the gov't of the UK says that you swear allegance to the govt, in this case to the Queen, who represents the govt. In the US we swear to uphold and defend the Constitution.

So now it is choice time:

1. Swear to be part of the country and be responsible, which entitles one to all the rights, privelages, and protections thereto, or

2. Refuse to be part of the country, which entitles one to STFU, GTFO, FOAD, or all three or any combination of the two.

This seems to twist up a few turbans, that is good. Got save the Queen!

Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-03-30 8:22:25 PM|| 2004-03-30 8:22:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Ahem, God save the Queen....

Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-03-30 9:19:50 PM|| 2004-03-30 9:19:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#11
Statement by Osama bin Laden: "I am residing in Afghanistan. I have taken an oath of allegiance to Taleban leader Mullah Mohammad Omar ...

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Bin Laden is the undisputed leader, called âemirâ or âprinceâ by his followers, who must take a sworn oath to him, violation of which is punishable by death.

Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-03-30 9:29:32 PM|| 2004-03-30 9:29:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 CrazyFool:

He is saying that Muslims cannot be faithful and true to anyone but Allah?

Yes, that's what he's saying. The Islamists have been saying their allegiance is to the ummah and to the coming caliph, not to any government made up only of men.

That other Muslims do little to nothing to contradict them is telling, IMHO.

It is a religion which you can enter into by CHOICE and leave by CHOICE.

No, Islam is a religion you can enter by choice, but for which your life is forfeit if you try to leave.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-03-30 9:53:17 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/] 2004-03-30 9:53:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Does it matter, the Moslems can all move to one country in the EU, dominate it politically, become citizens, then move whereever they want.

Posted by ruprecht 2004-03-30 11:34:40 PM|| 2004-03-30 11:34:40 PM|| Front Page Top

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