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2004-03-27 Europe
Spain holds half of the 3/11 cell
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Posted by Dan Darling 2004-03-27 12:09:44 AM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Moroccans--involved in this? But they are staunch US allies bought and paid for as we prop up their joke of a monarchy and people live like animals there--unless they are royalty or visiting French and Spanish tourists--it all comes home to roost
Posted by Anonymous 2004-03-27 3:22:25 AM||   2004-03-27 3:22:25 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 monarchy ?
from the cia world facts book
"Gradual political reforms in the 1990s resulted in the establishment of a bicameral legislature in 1997. "
does not look like a monarchy to me
technically they have a constitutional monarchy, a very very different thing than a simple monarchy. If your not sure what it is, try a history book.
but since you are no doubt too lazy to actually look anything up, I'll give you a hint, the king is not the head of the government.


here is their life expectancy

male: 67.77 years
female: 72.41 years

that’s pretty high for 'living like animals'

as for us propping the country.. it IS a developing country and receives aid like any other
as of 1995 it the nation receives $565.6 million, a paltry sum ;p Pakistan gets around 2 billion

so the whole coming home to roost thing does not make sense, only way that would make sense is if they were blowing up French buildings, ( they recently gained their independence from the French)


you have to understand, here at rantburg we place a high value on accurate debate, simple rhetoric that works well on your standard lefty site does not fly here, so you have to make sure that everything you say is at least partially grounded in reality.


you have to understand, here at rankburg we place a high value on acurate debate, simple rheutoric that works well on your standard lefty site does not fly here. Anyway stick around :) once you climb the learning curve you will fit in nicely - buh get a nickname!

Posted by Dcreeper 2004-03-27 6:48:25 AM||   2004-03-27 6:48:25 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 egads, I ran that through a spell checker and some how part of the last paragraph was doubled! sorry guys, I failed in Copy-Paste 101
Posted by Dcreeper 2004-03-27 6:50:27 AM||   2004-03-27 6:50:27 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 You're forgiven,Dc. Nice rant with a great conclusion. Pay heed anon and join the fun.
Posted by GK 2004-03-27 7:16:38 AM||   2004-03-27 7:16:38 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 She left out BUSH LIED and NO BLOOD FOR OIL. Must be a newbie.
Posted by John C. Lately 2004-03-27 8:45:13 AM||   2004-03-27 8:45:13 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Is Spring Break going on at Anonymous U., or something?
Posted by Pappy 2004-03-27 1:10:33 PM||   2004-03-27 1:10:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 DCreeper - B- You missed the BIGGIE! Morocco's Mohammed III was the FIRST FOREIGN MONARCH to recognize the Independent United States, and to establish diplomatic relations with the new nation in 1787. The United States and Morocco each issued a stamp in 1987 commemorating the event. The United States has helped the nation of Morocco frequently from time to time, but the relationship has more normally been stormy - at least in part due to the influence of other nations, most notably Britain, France, and Spain.

Hmmm, on further thought, how is that different than today? The more things change...
Posted by Old Patriot  2004-03-27 2:30:57 PM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm]  2004-03-27 2:30:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Another historical tidbit along this line... Extremely important to America's survival in the Revolutionary War was the "first" official recognition of American sovereignty by Dutch Fort Oranje on St. Eustatius, which fired its guns in salute of the American Brigantine Andria Doria flying revolutionary colors on November 16th 1776.

Some links --1-- --2-- --3-- for this (strangely) uncelebrated act.
Posted by .com 2004-03-27 2:56:51 PM||   2004-03-27 2:56:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Freedom House's report card on Morocco:
http://www.freedomhouse.org/research/freeworld/2003/countryratings/morocco.htm

They rate both its political and civil rights at 5 (with 1 being the best, and 7 being the worst).
Posted by Aris Katsaris  2004-03-27 4:34:09 PM||   2004-03-27 4:34:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Ninety-eight percent of the population belongs nominally to the state-sponsored Greek Orthodox Church. Orthodox bishops have the privilege of granting or denying permission to other faiths to build houses of worship in their jurisdictions.
Posted by Shipman 2004-03-27 5:50:07 PM||   2004-03-27 5:50:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Shipman> Yup. But I'm somehow guessing that the sentence you quoted doesn't refer to Morocco, but to Greece instead.
Posted by Aris Katsaris  2004-03-27 7:31:44 PM||   2004-03-27 7:31:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Ah, "Freedom House", one of whose major sponsors is "The (Geroge) Soros Foundation."
Nuff said. It's Leftist.
Posted by Jen  2004-03-27 7:43:56 PM|| [http://www.greatestjeneration.com]  2004-03-27 7:43:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Dang, Aris forgot to drop in the URL. It didn't seem important at the time.
Posted by Shipman 2004-03-27 8:17:02 PM||   2004-03-27 8:17:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Jen> Nuff said. It's Leftist.

I think that says 'nuff about you, actually.

Shipman> You also forgot to drop in your point. Didn't you consider that one important either?
Posted by Aris Katsaris  2004-03-27 8:49:16 PM||   2004-03-27 8:49:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Freedom house has been around for decades, and was contoversial for pointing out the low civil and political rights not only in the soviet Block but in lefty 3rd world states, and showing how by comparison pro-US states such as in Latin America often were less totalitarian, despite Am Intern and others focusing on them. FH was VERY unpopular among the leftists, and was widely admired by the Reagan admin.

Soros probably likes it cause, FH, like Soros, is interested in democracy promotion in the Former Soviet Union and Eastern Europe.


And while Morocco has made major progress by the standards of the Arab world, its not a constitutional monarchy like UK or Spain.
Posted by liberalhawk 2004-03-28 12:10:21 AM||   2004-03-28 12:10:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#16 Max Kampelman, Chairman emeritus of Freedom House, is a former Reagan Admin official.
Posted by liberalhawk 2004-03-28 12:14:18 AM||   2004-03-28 12:14:18 AM|| Front Page Top

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