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2004-02-18

ChiComs fill NORK Void Left by Drop in US aid, Japanese Trade

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Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-02-18 3:37:07 PM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 so basically China's been undermining the best efforts of the USA and its allies by directly supplying Kimmie with all he could need,fuckin annoys the hell outa me. Still reassuring to know china would never win in an all out conflict with America that went Atomic

Posted by Jon Shep U.K 2004-2-18 3:51:32 PM|| 2004-2-18 3:51:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 the chicoms created the problem in nkor let them solve it, they are more threatened than the United States by nkor.

the way i see it is that the chicoms overplayed thier hand with thier comi brethern and now must pay the piper.

either pay the tab for supporting this corrupt regime or have a nuclear armed Japan and very serious problem on thier border. Crime in the chicom/nkor border region was already on the rise (hungry nkor solderiers). If this situation persists alot of things will get ugly for the chicoms.

Clinton sold out to the nkor's, once again clinton shrieking his duties and passing the problem to the next admin. Just how did the US become the biggest donor nation to nkor? should of never of happened. Bush did the right thing when he pulled the plug.
Bush's hardball tactics must be making the chicoms squirm.

Posted by Dan 2004-2-18 3:54:30 PM|| 2004-2-18 3:54:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 agree totally about needing to use very hardball tactics with these nutters

Posted by Jon Shep U.K 2004-2-18 3:57:19 PM|| 2004-2-18 3:57:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 amd the chicoms would not win any conventional war - though it would be bloody, on par with korea or even WWII.

as it stands today the chicoms could barely move a division across the taiwan strait. and they would exhaust ther medium ballastic missle supply in 2-3 days. but they are building more every year, but without them being nuclear tipped, they would have to be dammend accruate to destroy the airfields and harbours of Taiwan. the only way to accomplish this the Global Positioning Satellites, that is american statellites, which we could bar them from using.

the chinese are modernizing, but it will take years. by 2015 they should have the same capabilites that the united states has today (but the us capapbitlies then will be, well a little like star wars to the average joe).

but i wouldn't take my eye off them, their military white paper's point to eventual conflict.

Posted by Dan 2004-2-18 4:03:19 PM|| 2004-2-18 4:03:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 a read a fleet of 50'000 fishing boats would be the only viable way for china to get enough man power onto mainland taiwan.They will try to itimidate the tai's. A war with china would be possiby the must brutal and hard fought war of all time - make a great film i bet

Posted by Jon Shep U.K 2004-2-18 4:12:28 PM|| 2004-2-18 4:12:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 kinda of a dunkirk in reverse................
make some good target practice for the Taiwanese F-16's

Posted by Dan 2004-2-18 4:19:12 PM|| 2004-2-18 4:19:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 The Chicoms are being stupid about the NORKS, but the Chicoms are being both stupid and smart about the Taiwanese.

If the PLA has the need to rattle their sabres across the straits, hey have a ball. A conflict with Taiwan would be an economic disaster for the PRC. However, with an increase in trade and economic ties, as well as loans from Taiwan to PRC enterprises, the Chicoms could, after a number of years, put the Taiwanese in a position where they could be economically strongarmed, thus slowly compromised and slowly defacto absorbed into the PRC.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-2-18 4:28:27 PM|| 2004-2-18 4:28:27 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Yes the Chicoms are very smart in regards to Taiwan. Alaska Paul is on the money. They are pulling in billions of investment dollars from Taiwan.

Still not sure how this will play out. Either they are absobed peacefully (doubtful though - especially with thier moves in Hong Kong and Macau) or violently. The second option, based on writings of the PLA, is most likely the outcome. Though this will bring ruin to the chinese and taiwan economies and rise prices for everyone across the board.

Posted by Dan 2004-2-18 5:11:34 PM|| 2004-2-18 5:11:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 The PRC is supplying the fuel while SK is providing the rice. I'm much happier with the current balance sheet than the situation that Carter negotiated.

Posted by Super Hose 2004-2-18 7:35:38 PM|| 2004-2-18 7:35:38 PM|| Front Page Top

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