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2004-01-19 Africa: East
Darfur rebels kill 1,000 Sudanese troops
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Posted by Dan Darling 2004-01-19 2:24:50 PM|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 i'd imagine the casulty numbers could well be true,on horse back,no armour,crap guns,crap brains all adds up too a masacre.As for the bit about the apace's,who's are these meant to be from?that bit stinks of BS too me
Posted by Jon Shep U.K 2004-1-19 2:30:23 PM||   2004-1-19 2:30:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Shot down "Apache helicopters"???
Tine was once the center of terrific fighting between rebels and the Government of Chad in the period 1990-91. Many hundreds, if not a couple thousand of armed types were killed.
Posted by Tancred 2004-1-19 3:14:47 PM||   2004-1-19 3:14:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 I'd imagine that if any helicopter gunships were actually shot down (it's possible), they were Russian Hind (MI-24) helicopters, which Sudan does have, rather than "Apaches", which according to Google, Sudan doesn't have. IIRC, the Afghanis had quite a bit of success against the Hind, using "Stinger" missiles. I would NOT be surprised to see them in the hands of Sudanese guerillas.
Posted by Old Patriot  2004-1-19 3:35:16 PM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm]  2004-1-19 3:35:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 As far as Apaches being shot down, it's a good way for any nut with an RPG to get on al-cnn these days. Doesn't matter if it's true, the commutards can scream about 'U.S. imperialism' and claim hundreds of dead civilian children/old folks/kittens/puppies. Not to mention a U.S. bodycount that surpasses the first N number of days/months/years in Vietnam.
Posted by 4thInfVet 2004-1-19 9:43:52 PM||   2004-1-19 9:43:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 I didn't read any further than this..."Nevertheless, there was an air of intrigue about the meeting".

Ok...despite the fact that I SHOULD have stopped there, I read just enough further to realize this was one of those "way too many details explanations that usually accompanies a story when somebody messed up, knows it, and tries to explain it away.

I'm guessing this is all part of the current PR push by the Clintons to prove that, despite all appearances, both he and Hillary are really war hawks, and it was the military brass, and the previous Bush administration, and Karl Rove, and Halliburton who are to blame for 9-11 not them.

What amazes me is how many people are sucking into it. Even Glenn Reynolds is taking the bait.
Posted by B 2004-1-20 8:42:00 AM||   2004-1-20 8:42:00 AM|| Front Page Top

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