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A new career awaits Democratic presidential candidates: offering advice to hunters.

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Posted by Dragon Fly 2003-11-19 11:20:25 AM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Why do I get the image of candidates dancing as Yosemite Sam shoots bullets at their feet?

Regardless of how you feel about hunting, it's not hard to see that this is going to really backfire [pun intended] on them. First of all, most real hunters won't be fooled by this transparent pandering. Secondly, most women don't like discussions on how to blast away at Bambi and Thumper. For every avid hunter they pick up, they will be alienating droves of the women voters on whom they so desperately depend.

Posted by B 2003-11-19 11:57:11 AM|| 2003-11-19 11:57:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 As long as loaded terms such as "assault weapons" and "sniper rifle" are used, otherwise sensible people are going to be motivated by fear (which in turn is bred by ignorance) to support these kinds of bans.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2003-11-19 12:40:54 PM|| 2003-11-19 12:40:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 The Democratic candidates - The Ninecompoops - should stick to what they know, such as bending over for liberal special interest groups and public service unions, courting the French electorate and bashing America [ed. - those last two are redundant], and leave the gun stuff to the Right.

Posted by Tibor 2003-11-19 1:02:24 PM|| 2003-11-19 1:02:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 With these yahoos' advice to hunters the deer and antelope will be safer than a guy in his own home. Does anyone else have Jimmy Carter de jevu watching these 9 wimps bounce around Iowa and NH?

Posted by Jack is Back! 2003-11-19 1:27:07 PM|| 2003-11-19 1:27:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 sigh..you are all too close to this. The GOP is missing the perfect opportunity to score big with this.

It's too perfect. It's the ultimate Lose/Lose scenario for these guys. The anti-hunt, anti-gun people will become aware they hunt, and the hunt people will become aware they are idiots. It just doesn't get better than this.

Posted by B 2003-11-19 2:01:54 PM|| 2003-11-19 2:01:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Does anyone else have Jimmy Carter de jevu

Me Jack!
Still thinking about Jimmuuuh defending himself from the pit rabbit with his concealed paddle.

Posted by Shipman 2003-11-19 2:10:02 PM|| 2003-11-19 2:10:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Does anyone else have Jimmy Carter de jevu watching these 9 wimps bounce around Iowa and NH?
Two major differences: none of them are as coherent as Jimmahh was, and they have a strong, energetic, incumbent President, instead of a TRULY "unelected", but perfectly legitimate (and very weak) Ford. The rest of the repuglycon ticket in 1976 wasn't any better. My biggest worry is that if by some miracle any of them got elected, we'd have four more years of the disaster the Carter presidency represented.

Posted by Old Patriot 2003-11-19 2:18:52 PM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm] 2003-11-19 2:18:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Dean, Clark, & Kerry - hahahaha, talking about any serious hunter taking a pseudo-military rifle into the woods - don't make me laugh. I've hunted all my life and have yet to see the .308 version of the AR-15 brandished in the wilderness by some yahoo - even though it would be perfectly legal (but really stupid looking). These guys have obviously never hunted (I don't believe Clark one bit - maybe wing shooting or clays w/an over-under), if they did deer hunt avidly, they would know no self-respecting hunter goes up in a tree-stand or stalk-hunts w/an AK or SKS. These guys need to stick to talking about tax hikes, gay marriage, and affirmative discrimination - that's about their speed. I hope the NRA pounds them on this. Also, this may push GWB to separate himself from them on this issue. Points to be made. B is right - time to score big. They take the wrong stance on guns and they will lose some swing states (i.e. Ohio).

Posted by Jarhead 2003-11-19 2:37:43 PM|| 2003-11-19 2:37:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 JH How about Michigan and just maybe PA?

Posted by Shipman 2003-11-19 3:19:36 PM|| 2003-11-19 3:19:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Ship - as far as swing states, definitely. One major reason Ohio jumped over to GWB from Gore was the gun issues about him. I'm from Michigan and can say that Gore almost lost that state over the same issue. Too bad so many union folks we're so afraid of Bush.

Posted by Jarhead 2003-11-19 4:11:13 PM|| 2003-11-19 4:11:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 The only military rifle I've EVER used to hunt with was my uncle's old M-1 Garand. I'd love to have a nice Springfield .303, but the price is exhorbitant - too high IMO for whatever return you'd get from it. Nice Remington or Winchester 30/30 with a scope and bipod makes more sense for REAL elk-hunting in these Colorado mountains, although any shot over about 400 meters isn't going to do much.

Posted by Old Patriot 2003-11-19 4:11:40 PM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm] 2003-11-19 4:11:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 I should also mention that a lot of deer hunters use shotguns due to local/state regulations. For a lot of hunters this ban is a moot point. If law abiding citizens want to buy "assault weapons" for collection purposes, shooting sports, or just home defense - let them. If gun dealers follow established SOP's and laws already on the books, common thugs won't be able to legally get a firearm now will they? Seems pretty obvious to me.

Posted by Jarhead 2003-11-19 4:25:42 PM|| 2003-11-19 4:25:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Hell I've got cousins in the tideswamp who use dawgs, shotguns, rifles, salt, speakers, smells, atvs, SUVs, night vision goggles, tree stands, tree houses, misdirection, lying and bright lights to hunt with, if they needed an automatic weapon they'd have one and they don't. (use em for that)

Posted by Shipman 2003-11-19 5:37:50 PM|| 2003-11-19 5:37:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 OP - the .30-30 is my deer slayer rifle of choice. Does everything I need for the distances I'm accustomed to taking deer at- 25-125 yrds. No scope though, I'm too cheap.

I also have a fully rifled .20 gauge remington 870 shotgun which is great for shotgun hunting.

Posted by Jarhead 2003-11-19 8:13:57 PM|| 2003-11-19 8:13:57 PM|| Front Page Top

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