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2003-10-22 Iran
Parvin Darabi: Open Letter to Shirin Ebadi
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Posted by Sorge 2003-10-22 7:47:27 AM|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [280 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 "If Islam is such a tolerant and peaceful religion shouldn¹t you have been a practicing judge instead of a legal aide? Didn¹t you read the Islamic requirements for a judge?"

Maybe cause she doesnt beleive that the positions of the ayatollahs who rule Iran actually represent Islam. OR if she does, she has enough sense not to say so. Since she actually wants to pull off a revolution, not sit in exile and make faces. If I was Khatami,id be much more pleased about whoever wrote this stuff than about Ebadi. Someone screaming that Islam is evil is not going to achieve regime change in Iran, not in a hundred years. Hell,if I were Khatami I'd send the Darabi Foundation money, they keep making the point I want to make - my opponents hate Islam.
Posted by liberalhawk 2003-10-22 9:32:00 AM||   2003-10-22 9:32:00 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Note - I meant Khameni, not Khatami. Bad enough they have a dual govt, do the names have to sound so much alike:) ?
Posted by liberalhawk 2003-10-22 10:12:15 AM||   2003-10-22 10:12:15 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Sorge-
I'll agree that Carter is quite stupid. But you don't think the Shah would have been overthrown by Khomeini anyway regardless of our support?
Posted by OminousWhatever 2003-10-22 11:01:54 AM||   2003-10-22 11:01:54 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Ominous--with our support, he would have had a fighting chance. I don't believe in inevitability, had the Shah counted on us, an old-fashioned repression/fracturing campaign could have worked.
Posted by Sorge  2003-10-22 12:21:21 PM|| [http://www.forgottenfronts.com/]  2003-10-22 12:21:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Besides, Ominous, if Carter had the courage and the needed ruthlessness, he could have assisted the Shah in pulling the "Hanse Davion" trick.

FYI: For those who don't get the reference, in the novels written about the "Battletech" wargame, Prince Hanse Davion had a problem of 'turbulent priests', more or less. He arranged to slow them down and gain some desperately needed time by having a tanker truck full of highly toxic insecticide crash near their headquarters.

Strikes me that this sort of 'accidental' incident would prove rather useful the next time there's a meeting of the "kill 'em all, let Allah sort 'em out" Islamic Idiots...

"Whoops! Sorry, didn't THINK that the chemical plant would leak that badly.. did anyone in the conference center survive? No? What great.. err.. TERRIBLE! Yeah, what TERRIBLE news!"

Heh.

Ed Becerra
Posted by Ed Becerra 2003-10-22 3:01:01 PM||   2003-10-22 3:01:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Ed, have you read this BBC article? It sounds like the nuclear capitulation has actually caused some rifts in Iran. I can't tell whether there is actual discord or this is being overblown by the BBC - hopeful that there really are moderates in Iran.
Posted by Super Hose  2003-10-22 3:15:46 PM||   2003-10-22 3:15:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Ed, Sorge- I thought we were backing a losing horse with the Shah, but wanted to understand the reasoning behind thinking otherwise. Thanks.

Ed- I thought that Davion name sounded familiar.
Posted by OminousWhatever 2003-10-22 5:33:23 PM||   2003-10-22 5:33:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Sorge, you're wrong -- Buchanan was the worst President ever. He let SC secede from the Union. Carter is a runner up, though.
Posted by Brian  2003-10-22 8:03:13 PM||   2003-10-22 8:03:13 PM|| Front Page Top

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