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2003-10-22 India-Pakistan
Jamaat’s immoderate worldview
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Posted by Paul Moloney 2003-10-22 7:46:46 AM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 interesting that not only JI sees Pakland as the center for the Jihad, but that jihadis from africa etc see it that way as well. I wonder though how many of the the Africans are actually of Pakistani origin (in South Africa for example) Also wonder how this relates to info suggesting that AQ sees Iraq as the principle battleground - the chance to bring down the Americans as Afghanistan brought down the Soviets. Is it that AQ has an Arab point of view, versus JI's South Asian focus, despite their historic alliance? Or is it Iraq first, Pakistan second?
Posted by liberalhawk 2003-10-22 9:26:27 AM||   2003-10-22 9:26:27 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 I believe it could be something like this:
Al Qaeda is a product of the Arab world, in particular the Muslim Brotherhood and the Wahabis of Saudi Arabia. The JI is very similar to the Muslim Brotherhood, but rather than just being an "offshoot", it is a major transnational political movement in its own right, which has made its own major contribution to Islamist thought (such as it is).
Just like the Egyptian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood is dominant, so the Pakistani branch of the Jamaat-e-Islami is dominant over the Bangladeshi, Indian and to some extent the South East Asian branches. There ultimate aim is to bring about the disintegration of India, and in combination with the destruction of Israel, the new Caliphate will reach from the Atlantic to Pacific Oceans.

But I think the most important reason for why all these rabid Islamists for around the world showed up in Pakistan to voice their support, is that such a conference simply couldn't happen anywhere in the Arab world, not even in Saudi Arabia. In contrast, the Islamists can do just about whatever they want, because they have the protection of the state.
Posted by Paul Moloney 2003-10-22 9:41:43 AM||   2003-10-22 9:41:43 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Yet another Islamist snake-pit that needs a good and thorough napalming.
Posted by Craig  2003-10-22 11:05:20 AM||   2003-10-22 11:05:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 They think we are scared of them? Pehaps they didn't learn the lesson of Pearl Harbor or 9-11.

Note to religious fanatics worldwide - we are nice, we value individual liberty and civil rights, but start the suicide bombs over here and expect to feel the wrath of the giant. We've still got the gloves on and one hand tied behind our back and we are kicking your backward behinds. Imagine what it will be like when we take the gloves off and give it all we've got. We can turn you into glass right now if we want to. Lucky for you, that's not what we want, yet. Blow up a couple of coffee shops and discos over here and watch the shift in our attitude occur overnight. We still won't go for the glass option, but don't expect us to keep the gloves on.
Posted by B 2003-10-22 11:45:11 AM||   2003-10-22 11:45:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 I find this article very disturbing. It's like we are watching a replay of Hitler all over again. All we need is for these students to do is raise their hands and chant Hail Hitler.

It's as if I'm watching a terrible car wreck about to occur in slow motion and there is nothing I can do to stop it.
Posted by B 2003-10-22 11:53:47 AM||   2003-10-22 11:53:47 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 "call India to account through some more jihad and, after that, somehow wage war against the evil of the United States and the Jews".

Is he on drugs? First wage jihad against India - what are the chances that this could go nuclear - then take on the United States and then finally the 'all-powerful' Jews? Now there's a plan that doesn't let reality stand in its way. What a moron.
Posted by Dakotah 2003-10-22 12:26:13 PM||   2003-10-22 12:26:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 "I find this article very disturbing. It's like we are watching a replay of Hitler all over again. All we need is for these students to do is raise their hands and chant Hail Hitler. "

But the real question - is Perv Hindenburg? or worse, Von Papen?
Posted by liberalhawk 2003-10-22 12:30:28 PM||   2003-10-22 12:30:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 And on a lighter note are the jihadis going to try to get the Spear of Longinus, the Holy Grail and the Ark of the Covenant? Or is all that haram?
Posted by OminousWhatever 2003-10-22 6:05:41 PM||   2003-10-22 6:05:41 PM|| Front Page Top

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