Article

2003-09-12 Europe

Fighting words as de Villepin stands firm

Archived material is restricted to Rantburg regulars and members. If you need access email fred.pruitt=at=gmail.com with your nick to be added to the members list. There is no charge to join Rantburg as a member.

Posted by Bulldog 2003-09-12 6:47:55 AM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 "Dominique [who is REPUTED TO BE a man]...."

Did he say anything substantive at all? At least he acknowledged the argument that France is accused of being oil and profit motivated. He dissmissed it without providing any substance, but still he acknowledged it.

Posted by Craig 2003-9-12 9:36:18 AM|| 2003-9-12 9:36:18 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 As an avid follower of the English-language websites posted in Phrawnce by poor trapped souls (Merde in France, Dissident Frogman, Pave France, etc) what strikes me is the absurdity of their being offended by the anti-Phrench sentiment in America. It pales in comparison to the anti-American sentiment in Phrawnce, much of it published by sources with strong Govt connections.

It seems there is nothing new in this other than they remain in the role of obfuscators, apologists for Arabs, and UN nay-sayers. The irony is that the anti-UN sentiment in the US is growing by leaps and bounds, as a result of their abusing it in such a crass and craven self-serving political ploy. Since it is all that remains of Phrench stature, it will be a blow to them and to their successors when M Chirac and M de Villepin have reduced it to the shell it will be when the US finally accepts the overwhelmingly obvious evidence that it is primarily a hindrance and anchor - with little redeeming value - and withdraws.

C'est la vie, eh?

Posted by .com (Abu This RoPâ¢ Asshats) 2003-9-12 9:56:13 AM|| 2003-9-12 9:56:13 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 ..when the US finally accepts the overwhelmingly obvious evidence that it is primarily a hindrance and anchor - with little redeeming value - and withdraws.

Unfortunately, this is probably not going to happen on GWB's watch. He seems to think that the UN actually adds value while events have shown otherwise...

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2003-9-12 12:38:40 PM|| 2003-9-12 12:38:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Bomb:

I don't think we'll withdraw from the UN. We'll just not go to it with anything important (unless, as in the present situation, making the effort has PR value in securing cooperation from others). However, by staying in, we get to use our veto in the Security Council to keep the UN from doing anything truly mischevious against us.

Posted by Mike 2003-9-12 1:27:08 PM|| 2003-9-12 1:27:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Dominique ( who may be 'male' but isn't a man ) would have us forget much.

Simple cowardice...

â¬...how convenient to 'forget' about the legacy of French imperialism that led to WWI's clash of rival Empires

â¬...how convenient to 'forget' about the tyrannical 'peace' of WWI that led to the rise of Hitler and WWII

â¬...how convenient to 'forget' about the Vichy French complicity in the holocaust with the Nazi's

â¬...how convenient to 'forget' about the post war re-imposition of French exploitive colonialism in Algeria and Vietnam in bloody wars

â¬...how convenient to 'forget' about Suez in '56, one of many French post war interventionist failures

â¬...how convenient to 'forget' about the Saddamized colonialization of Iraq that perpetuated a fascist regime for French Oil profits.
So OK frogs... let's just propagate the lie that America deserved 911... let's just propagate the lies about Chile and their failed little fascist state... let's blame it all on America... because distractive fabrication is the French way, so we all don't dwell on your 20th century exploitive Imperialistic history and how it demonstrates how devolved your culture has become... The 'Big Lie' the way of the coward... the way of France.

Posted by DANEgerus 2003-9-12 2:46:14 PM|| [http://www.danegerus.com/weblog] 2003-9-12 2:46:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Ok, Dom, we'll take you at your word that it's not about O...I...L.... contracts.

BTW, care to sign this piece of paper declaring same?

But there is Alcatel and the telecom contract.

Posted by Anonymous 2003-9-12 2:48:31 PM|| 2003-9-12 2:48:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Isn't the Chirac party the most pro-American of the alternatives?

Posted by Not Mike Moore 2003-9-12 11:35:41 PM|| 2003-9-12 11:35:41 PM|| Front Page Top

09:12 Douglas De Bono
09:02 raptor
08:09 raptor
00:03 Not Mike Moore
00:02 Fred
23:56 Not Mike Moore
23:35 Not Mike Moore
23:27 Not Mike Moore
23:12 Paul
23:10 Not Mike Moore
23:02 Paul
23:00 Not Mike Moore
22:48 Paul
22:44 tu3031
22:15 Craig
21:58 Old Patriot
21:52 True German Ally
21:43 True German Ally
21:42 Someone who did NOT vote for William Proxmire
21:30 Old Patriot
21:28 Ernest Brown
21:26 Fred
21:05 Super Hose
20:58 Old Patriot