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2003-05-26 Europe

Plane With Spanish Troops Crashes in Turkey

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Posted by Steve White 2003-05-26 12:29 am|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 I like the Ukkies and all, but Jesus, what the hell are they flying? Buses with wings?

Posted by The Marmot 2003-05-26 01:03:36|| [marmotshole.blogspot.com] 2003-05-26 01:03:36|| Front Page Top

#2 A better question is, Why on earth does Spain contract its military airlift capability to the Ukraine?

They were part of the United Nations-mandated International Security Assistance Force (ISAF). Yes, you can thank the nice people at the UN for this.

When we people learn that the UN f****s-up everything they touch!

Posted by Phil B 2003-05-26 11:53:05|| 2003-05-26 11:53:05|| Front Page Top

#3 FYI there are FEW countries in the world that have sufficient Airlift capability for their Armies. The Former USSR had HUGE fleet of transport planes and many former countries contact these out for peacekeeping purposes. It also allows some UN members to 'pay' for there dues in the UN by providing Airlift for Peacekeepers. On a side note: When the French want to deploy troops to Africa last year, they had to ask the US for planes to accomplish this.! Also the PRC Rarely provides planes for transport because nations REFUSE to let the PRC fly them. (Poor safety record).

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2003-05-26 13:32:49|| 2003-05-26 13:32:49|| Front Page Top

#4 Why do the Euros keep contracting their military airlift needs out to the Ukraine? Why don't they ever develop their own version of the Civil Reserve Air Fleet? Despite of all the talk, they are still treating power projection as a joke. Obviously, they don't feel that the lives of their troops are worth paying top dollar for reliable aircraft and pilots, either.

Posted by 11A5S 2003-05-26 14:04:11|| 2003-05-26 14:04:11|| Front Page Top

#5 Picture this: It is 0445, the crew is tired, the runway is down to minimum conditions for the instrument approach, and you are approaching bingo fuel (minimum). Now you have to be at your best flying an approach that you may never have done. If you fly it and miss enough times, you will start believing that you see elements of the runway environment and will continue the approach to landing. A very dangerous thing to people in the air and people on the ground. Normal IFR (instrument flight rules) proceedure is to fly to the destination airport, shoot the approach(es) fly to the alternate airport and shoot the approach there. To stick around and fly multiple approach attempts is not justified unless there are improving ceiling and runway visibility conditions. You can never have too much fuel aboard unless you are on fire.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2003-05-26 14:05:19|| 2003-05-26 14:05:19|| Front Page Top

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