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2003-05-16 Iraq
Coalition Troops Are Accused of Torture
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Posted by 11A5S 2003-05-16 02:04 pm|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 A Saudia Arabian national, hmmmm? They're like cockroaches, everywhere there's a human garbage pile.
Posted by Chuck  2003-05-16 14:30:50|| [blog.simmins.org]  2003-05-16 14:30:50|| Front Page Top

#2 I didn't see anything in here about ignoring the zoo animals, but PETA will probably have that in their after-action report.
The story does state that these people were supposedly hooded and blindfolded when this all allegedly took place and Kuwaiti interpeters were present. So:
A. How can you tell who's beating on you when you're blindfolded?
B. How do you know it wasn't the Kuwaitis? Or are they too small potatoes for Amnesia International?
Not as much ink if they're Kuwaitis, instead of Americans or Brits.
Posted by tu3031 2003-05-16 14:39:25||   2003-05-16 14:39:25|| Front Page Top

#3 I don't have a problem with torturing these guys if the point was to get information. Somehow, I doubt there would have been any point to beating a bunch of clueless jihadis on a journey to find Islam (or paradise). I can understand torture if these guys had just killed an American soldier by using the white flag trick. But the resolution to that should have been summary execution, not torture. Even if torture was involved, the loop should have been closed, with a bullet to the head.
Posted by Zhang Fei  2003-05-16 15:05:53||   2003-05-16 15:05:53|| Front Page Top

#4 Doesn't anyone ever wonder why we only torture poorly educated Jihadists? We captured Cubans in Grenada, no torture. We capture Panamanians, no torture. We captured Serbs in Kosovo, no torture. All of a sudden we capture Islamists and we go crazy with marathon torture sessions? Am I the only one who thinks this is fishy?
Posted by Cyber Sarge  2003-05-16 16:00:20||   2003-05-16 16:00:20|| Front Page Top

#5  While this does need to be investigated, I do smell a rat here. Especially Mr. I-came-to-Iraq-to-help-the-Red-Crescent, that is too pat by a long margin, and seems tailor made for the Anti-American Arab press. I think we may be seeing the beginnings of the US troops getting the "Israeli" treatment. Lots of our enemy's want to de-legitimize the US-Coalition victory and turn Iraq into a Lebanon. I agree with Ralph Peters and others who argue we need more ground troops in place to ensure order and deal with the thugs still running around Iraq. Ditto for Afganistan too I am afraid. We have got to see these nascent democracys thru to their standing on their own two feet else all the dead will have died for naught and we will have a bigger mess internationally on our hands. I wish I knew if the American people have been paying attention and realize the anti-terrorism war is a long haul operation across the globe. As I have said in other comment areas we are experiencing the Chinese curse of living in interesting times. It is looking more and more like Strass & Howes' ("Generations" and "The Fourth Turning") theory of generation driven cycles, or turnings, of history is correct and we are in or entering the "Fourth Turning", the Crisis period. The last one was the Depression and WW II years...
Posted by Rifle308  2003-05-16 16:05:32||   2003-05-16 16:05:32|| Front Page Top

#6 Two quick points: since there is no iraqie red cross (there is a red crescent) he must have joined something else. Second and related, he cannot be a civilian and be a prisoner of war. Maybe he was one of the red cresent members who were shooting machine guns out of ambulances.
Posted by Timmy the Wonder Dog  2003-05-16 16:19:56|| [morningthunder.blogspot.com]  2003-05-16 16:19:56|| Front Page Top

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