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2003-03-06 Terror Networks
HE’LL SPILL HIS GUTS, OR ELSE
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Posted by ISHMAIL 2003-03-06 10:58 am|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 according to 'The War on Sacred Terror'(written by former NSC staffers Daniel Benjamin & Stephen Simon - great book), terrorists on Jihadi missions are supposed to act as playboys, appearing to drink alcohol, and be inappropriate with women as a cover for Islam, so as not to bring Islam into disrepute.

A good leverage stick would be to threaten Khalid with educating his sons in a Jewish school (hee hee), and teaching them critical thinking skills, argument evaluation and skepticism.

Once they get some good western secularism into them, once their brains start working independantly, they'll never be able to become devout learn-by-rote indoctrinated Muslims again.

Threaten Khalid that they will get ham sandwiches every day and that all their teachers will be women none of whom will wear purdah.
Posted by anon 2003-03-06 04:07:22||   2003-03-06 04:07:22|| Front Page Top

#2 They'll do none of these things. They'll shoot him full of some high-tech pentothal derivative, rape his mind for everything he knows, and dump him, shattered and burned, into some military cell, there to ponder the enormity of his forced betrayal until somebody in authority decides to put him out of his misery, hopefully years from now.
Posted by jrosevear  2003-03-06 06:22:34||   2003-03-06 06:22:34|| Front Page Top

#3 I think the only thing they have to do is to provide him with a mirror in his cell.
Posted by Anonymous 2003-03-06 08:11:19||   2003-03-06 08:11:19|| Front Page Top

#4 no chemicals are involved.

anyway as for the mind raping scenerio, pharmeceutically forcing him to talk absolves him of responsibility and thus guilt.

However, the things used "torture lite" will do the trick. I would like to make clear though that torture lite is little different to what we subject our own people during the SERE course. Though, admittedly, that is a motherf*cker of a thing to go through.

When you actually here someone "break" and start talking, especially talib types, they tend to switch languages.

Most of these guys are multilingual, but the moment they give up and are shattered they begin sobbing in their mother's tounge.

it's pretty chilling to watch.

-DS
"the horns hold up the halo."
Posted by DeviantSaint 2003-03-06 09:20:31|| [www.livejournal.com/~deviantsaint]  2003-03-06 09:20:31|| Front Page Top

#5 I agree with DS. If you've ever been through 60+ hours of enforced sleep deprivation, then you'd know what he's talking about. The hallucinations, the sudden mood swings, the feelings of utter hopelessness make a man pretty easy to break. I've seen some break without any outside pressure -- just the sleep deprivation. It's a frightening thing to watch a guy you know and like in an infantile state, crawling on the floor and crying like a baby.

The Soviets tried drugs and found that the conveyor (as it is called in the Gulag Archipelago) was more effective. Solzhenitsyn states that somewhere in the high ninety percent of all prisoners broke after 50-60 hours of sleep deprivation. The remainder were either psychotic already or underwent a psychotic break with reality during the process.
Posted by 11A5S 2003-03-06 11:01:21||   2003-03-06 11:01:21|| Front Page Top

#6 Many of these tactics have been refined in Fraternity environments during the 1970's as well... until the Dean Wormer's of the world forced the change away from "Hell Week" to "Cupcake group hug sessions"... I was ready for "Greek Jihad" after 3 days and nights of Hell week...
Posted by capsu78 2003-03-06 12:18:48||   2003-03-06 12:18:48|| Front Page Top

#7 Capsu78 - sounds familiar - I was an SAE at San Diego State, and during initiation weekend, the only really bad thing that happened to the pledges was sleep deprivation, and that was enough, they were putty
Posted by Frank G  2003-03-06 14:34:36||   2003-03-06 14:34:36|| Front Page Top

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