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2012-12-19 Home Front: Culture Wars
It Might Work, If Human Beings Were in Charge
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Posted by g(r)omgoru 2012-12-19 01:07|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [218 views ]  Top

#1 When the parent of an obviously mentally unstable young man tells friends and colleagues "do not turn your back on my son" ....but takes her mentally unstable son to a shooting range for "bonding" and weapons familiarization, what might one expect? Sorry, I believe we may have had more than one candidate for mental instability.
Posted by Besoeker 2012-12-19 01:28||   2012-12-19 01:28|| Front Page Top

#2 She did seem to be a little .. strange, didn't she. But I certainly would not blame her.

The problem here is a simple one, though the solution is not. The problem: a small but real number of people have chronic paranoid schizophrenia. They're born with it and have certain genetic and environmental cues that allow it to develop. It's a disease that takes a while to manifest itself, and the full manifestations come when a young man/woman is in their late teens / early twenties. They enter a spiraling cascade of worsening psychosis. For some, that leads to escalating violence.

I don't know the young man, of course, and I don't have his medical record handy. But my one-thousand-mile-away diagnosis is that.

Fixing chronic paranoid schizophrenia, helping the patients, and preventing them from killing others -- that's complex.

Addendum at 0800 CT: some have said that Mr. Lanza had some sort of 'autism-spectrum disorder' that eventually decompensated, and that's why he went on his murderous rage. That's certainly possible, but I know that schizophrenia, particularly in children and teens, is frequently mis-diagnosed as something else. But I'll be corrected by whatever finally comes out about Mr. Lanza's medical history.
Posted by Steve White 2012-12-19 08:37||   2012-12-19 08:37|| Front Page Top

#3 and keeping them on any meds that help is a huge task
Posted by Frank G 2012-12-19 08:40||   2012-12-19 08:40|| Front Page Top

#4 And now we have the Champ appointing Joe "This really is a BFD" Biden to head up a commission to look into the CT slayings.

White House narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) victims examine potential remediation of chronic paranoid schizophrenia violence. I am not hopeful.
Posted by Besoeker 2012-12-19 08:52||   2012-12-19 08:52|| Front Page Top

#5 Fixing chronic paranoid schizophrenia, helping the patients, and preventing them from killing others -- that's complex.

Second that. A friend has a brother who has late onset schizophrenia. The family is at their wit's end as to what to do. He's not legally crazy. Maybe the only thing he hasn't done is take his prescribed medicine. We have a kid in the neighborhood that everyone thinks is a ticking time bomb. The police say they can't do anything until he does something! There is a balance of trying to protect these people (ensure their fundamental Constitutional rights) but also protect society from them. As the writer says, we don't want to turn things over to the government because of a past track record. We don't want bureaucrats to lower the threshold for placing people in the loony bins so that eventually people are sent to the loony bin who are troublesome, inconvenient or speak out against the government. Generally, politicians simplify the problem by going after guns. They have done little to address the real problems other than provide knee-jerk reactions and try to get a lot of TV face time.
Posted by JohnQC 2012-12-19 09:49||   2012-12-19 09:49|| Front Page Top

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