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2012-12-17 Syria-Lebanon-Iran
WJC Analysis - Reconsidering Political Islam
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Posted by tipper 2012-12-17 11:59|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [239 views ]  Top

#1 Is there political Islam apart from religious Islam? Is that not part of the problem?
Posted by JohnQC 2012-12-17 12:07||   2012-12-17 12:07|| Front Page Top

#2 nice to see that Islamorealism is beginning to gain a foothold in the WJC

Posted by lord garth 2012-12-17 13:13||   2012-12-17 13:13|| Front Page Top

#3 When these Islamist rebels take power in Syria, I look forward to neo-con criticism of Obama for not backing these Islamists a little earlier. The child-like unworldliness of these morons in taking as gospel the Sunni troglodytes' assurances of moderation is breath-taking. It's pretty clear why they're working at think tanks - with their blinkered naivete, it's pretty clear they couldn't possibly make it in any line of work that's results-oriented. How the heck did neo-cons ever get classified with conservatives, who have an essentially pessimistic view of human nature and foreign ideologies?
Posted by Zhang Fei 2012-12-17 15:30||   2012-12-17 15:30|| Front Page Top

#4 Zhang Fei:

The term "neo-con" is generally used as an epithet by the Left. It is not a term that anyone would use to describe their own beliefs. I think this can be best understood by the occasional admission by the Left that what they mean by "neo-con" is "Trotskyite."

The people who use the term "neo-con" are generally reacting to the idea that the US can and should sometimes forcefully intervene in foreign affairs. This is not a controversial position -- unless you are an isolationist or working for the other side.

The idea that the US can make foreign nations better (as distinct from simply improving things from the US point of view) is perhaps held by a very small minority. Mostly when it comes up though it is not a serious core belief, but an excuse or pretext. So, Bush used that kind of reasoning for Iraq and Obama has used in it connection with the idiocy we are calling the Arab Spring. That said, I don't think Bush or Obama had any illusions about what they were doing.
Posted by Iblis 2012-12-17 16:58||   2012-12-17 16:58|| Front Page Top

#5 I suspect Zhang Fei is perfectly aware of the connotations. :)
Posted by Shipman 2012-12-17 18:01||   2012-12-17 18:01|| Front Page Top

#6 Iblis I see often used "neo-con" in stead of "Jew", by both leftists and paulbot isolationists.
Posted by twobyfour 2012-12-17 22:56||   2012-12-17 22:56|| Front Page Top

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