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2015-11-26 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

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Posted by Elmerert Hupens2660 2015-11-26 00:48|| || Front Page|| [7 views ] Top
File under: Islamic State

#1 Read this...........

Sent the 'tingle up my leg'.

Posted by Mullah Richard 2015-11-26 09:01|| 2015-11-26 09:01|| Front Page Top

#2 They're all ISIS

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2015-11-26 11:15|| 2015-11-26 11:15|| Front Page Top

#3 Dream on. I'm afraid it's too late. By 2017 the ISIS invasion of Europe and America will be out of control. The war will be in Europe and America, not in Iraq or Syria.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2015-11-26 12:51|| 2015-11-26 12:51|| Front Page Top

#4 that is not what defeating ISIS would look like.

Defeating ISIS would start by expelling all theocratic fascist muslims from within western countries.

If we were defeating ISIS then there would be no airforce ground crews *waiting back at the base in Saudi Arabia* because Saudi Arabia would be cut off. It would be declared an enemy state. It would not be an ally.

So would Pakistan.

cut off. No more aid. No more trade.

The bombs would fall on al-Azhar university.

That is what defeating ISIS would look like.

What a stupid article written by a military minded guy with NO idea.

If you could solve ISIS with bombs we would have done it already. ISIS is not Raqqa. ISIS is Saudi Arabian-spread Islamist fascism.

IF you could solve it with bombs you could press 1 button and nuke Raqqa. The problem would multiply x 100 because the problem is not just *over there* the problem is IN HERE

Posted by anon1 2015-11-26 18:55|| 2015-11-26 18:55|| Front Page Top

#5 I wish this would happen, but I believe we all know this is fiction.

Posted by chris 2015-11-26 19:07|| 2015-11-26 19:07|| Front Page Top

#6 I believe this is both accurate and relevant, notwithstanding the other naysayers: critical for ISIS to maintain its caliphate, a physical nation state-like territory where it could govern, where it could plan and train, and where the fools and psychopaths who bought into its sick philosophy could gather.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2015-11-26 19:29|| 2015-11-26 19:29|| Front Page Top

#7 yes i agree getting rid of the Caliphate is important.

but getting rid of it without solving the Ideological problem will just be useless

it will pop up again and again

just like when al-qaeda was fought --- and the ideological war was not addressed --- we got ISIS

You cannot win with military action without tackling the Ideology and that is exactly what we have been doing for 15 years -- and that is why we are LOSING

Posted by anon1 2015-11-26 19:38|| 2015-11-26 19:38|| Front Page Top

#8 OK, anon1. What do you propose? I suggested http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com/2004/02/battling-for-hearts-and-minds-insofar.html some years ago. Some of it is embarrassingly dated now, and some frustratingly so. I'm strictly amateur, I'm afraid.

Posted by James 2015-11-26 20:32|| http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com 2015-11-26 20:32|| Front Page Top

#9 tackling the Ideology About half the "ideology" is domestic and not Muslim, Americans who will put YouTube versions of "Imagine" on their Facebook pages after the latest jihadi outrage and then wring the wee little hands over another outbreak of Islamophobia, while blaming the rest of our problems on evangelical Christians.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2015-11-26 20:38|| 2015-11-26 20:38|| Front Page Top

#10 Its known what works on the mind, but posting any comments on that gets the comment deleted quickly.

I will say what a bad guy told me once.

If I attack a man's body I go to jail. If I turn his mind inside out and run it through a wringer washer the worst anybody can charge me with is the lowest level minor assault and effectively I have murdered his mind.

Posted by 3dc 2015-11-26 21:23|| 2015-11-26 21:23|| Front Page Top

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