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2015-11-25 The Grand Turk

The view from Turkey: Russian pilots alive, efforts ongoing to bring them to Turkey

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Posted by trailing wife 2015-11-25 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 Starting to wake up to what they've done?

Posted by gorb 2015-11-25 01:18|| 2015-11-25 01:18|| Front Page Top

#2 Starting to wake up to what they've done?

I would say they are well past that and heading full tilt into blind panic at the realization at how outclassed they really are.

Posted by Nguard 2015-11-25 02:36|| 2015-11-25 02:36|| Front Page Top

#3 Are they outclassed by that much? They're local, they have better logistics, their Air Force is fairly modern, and their pilots are likely decent. How outclassed are they?

Posted by Steve White 2015-11-25 08:20|| 2015-11-25 08:20|| Front Page Top

#4 Dr. Steve, according to Hurriyet, Russia is now taking security vis a vis Turkey seriously:

Russian General Staff has deployed one of its largest air defense ships at the foot of Turkish territorial waters in the Mediterranean, in a move to revise security measures after a Russian SU-24 was downed by Turkish aircrafts.

According to Russian RIA Novosti agency, Russian General Staff boosted security measures after the recent incident.

In this perspective, Russian bomber aircrafts will be supported by chasers and any kinds of threats will be responded instantly, military spokesman General Sergei Rudskoi said.

Accordingly, “the Moscow,” one of the Russian Navy’s two largest warships and the flagship of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet, will be deployed where Turkey-Syria territorial waters connect.

The warship is known to have an air defense system similar to S-300s, allowing the ship to immediately respond to any perceived threat.

Russian General Staff also decided to cut off all military communication with Turkey.

Moreover, Russia Russia is sending its most hi-tech air defence system to its airbase in Syria, the defence minister said Nov. 25, as Moscow ratchets up its firepower over the war-torn country after the downing of its fighter jet by Turkey.

"The S-400 anti-aircraft missile system will be deployed to the Hmeimim airbase," Sergei Shoigu was quoted as saying by Agence France-Presse.

Posted by trailing wife 2015-11-25 08:27|| 2015-11-25 08:27|| Front Page Top

#5 They're local, ... How outclassed are they?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2015-11-25 08:29|| 2015-11-25 08:29|| Front Page Top

#6 Also, they're bouncing Turkmen rubble where yesterday the idiot jihadis were chanting "Allahu Akbar" in triumph.

Posted by trailing wife 2015-11-25 08:31|| 2015-11-25 08:31|| Front Page Top

#7 The warship is known to have an air defense system similar to S-300s, allowing the ship to immediately respond to any perceived threat.

Turn the detection systems and radars on FULL POWER seaman Pavlinko.

How does one say YES, YES, YES! In Hebrew ?

Posted by Besoeker 2015-11-25 08:34|| 2015-11-25 08:34|| Front Page Top

#8 How outclassed Turkey is depends upon how much heat Putin wants to apply. I'm pretty sure Russia could destroy the Turkish Navy rather quickly and turn every coastal Turkish city to rubble if they wanted.

Battling over the skies of turkey is a different story with anti-aircraft and defensive fighters but the Russians wouldn't really need to go there to prostrate Turkey.

Posted by rjschwarz 2015-11-25 14:13|| 2015-11-25 14:13|| Front Page Top

#9 How outclassed Turkey is depends upon how much heat Putin wants to apply.

The issue is the Bosporus. The Russians have the means (and the will!) to provide protection for their air ops. At the first sign of access problems in the straits, the Russians will go full Ivan. Remember that business in Crimea? It wasn't about territory. It was about access to the Med.

I doubt Turkey feels assured of NATO support at this point.

Posted by SteveS 2015-11-25 14:32|| 2015-11-25 14:32|| Front Page Top

#10 NATO has said that they back Turkey and that they believe this happened over Syrian territory. Lots of wiggle room there.

Posted by rjschwarz 2015-11-25 18:07|| 2015-11-25 18:07|| Front Page Top

#11 If I just dropped the word Trebizon...

Posted by swksvolFF 2015-11-25 18:22|| 2015-11-25 18:22|| Front Page Top

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