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2003-10-24 Fifth Column

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Posted by tu3031 2003-10-24 9:59:36 AM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 So... when will Al-Jitzz show pictures of Saddam's ( or the Taliban's) mass graves?

Thought not....

Posted by CrazyFool 2003-10-24 10:13:56 AM|| 2003-10-24 10:13:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Jeez why are the kids smiling?

Perhaps its the new coat?

Posted by Anonymous 2003-10-24 10:16:38 AM|| 2003-10-24 10:16:38 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 We need the high resolution one to see the smiles and coats.

Posted by Shipman 2003-10-24 10:18:41 AM|| 2003-10-24 10:18:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Forget for a moment the frightful mistreatment of women and children that daily go on in the countries that comprise most of Al-Jazeera's viewership. Look simply at today's NYT story about the fairly commonplace gang-rapes that occur in that bastion of Liberte, France, and puzzle as to how the moral all-stars of the "human rights community" can knot their knickers over something as benign as this.

Posted by af 2003-10-24 10:26:46 AM|| 2003-10-24 10:26:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Mr.Ansiri & Mr.Saalakhan can go suck the big one. Cry me a river pansies. Whey they get on point and lead a patrol through an un-friendly village looking for hostiles then they can talk. Until then I suggest they know their roles and shut their mouths. We are utilizing our experiences from Viet Nam, if they don't like it, f*ck'em.

"It is quite possible tragedies could unfold if trigger-nervous US soldiers look at these children as potential security risks."

-we don't get 'trigger-nervous', but we do get 'trigger-happy' if some a-hole is turning some 9-yr old into the tnt mule of Kabul.

Posted by Jarhead 2003-10-24 10:43:50 AM|| 2003-10-24 10:43:50 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 I'd bet that the "frisking" wasn't really a security measure, but rather a joke. You know that kids like it when adults treat them just like other adults; I can see the same thing applying here.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2003-10-24 10:48:00 AM|| [http://www.kloognome.com] 2003-10-24 10:48:00 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 I can tell you what happened. The kids saw the troops frisking the adults and playfully told our guys to "hey, fwisk me too". And when the soldier playfully padded the kid down, some photographer snapped the pic to show how evil we are.

Posted by Bill 2003-10-24 10:57:56 AM|| 2003-10-24 10:57:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Robert & Bill, you gents are probably right. I've been unable to download the picture so I can't tell. However, my thoughts regarding Ansiri & Saalakhan still stand. I hate listening to Monday morning quarterbacks (some guy behind a desk w/a cup of starbucks in a warm office) when it comes to military ops. It's never good practice to second-guess the commander on the scene unless you've been there.

Posted by Jarhead 2003-10-24 11:16:33 AM|| 2003-10-24 11:16:33 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 I added the pic into the article. I also moved it from Afghanistan to Fifth Column. The guys involved are more than Monday-morning quarterbacks. Al-Sirri is an active player, and not on our side.

Posted by Fred 2003-10-24 11:19:47 AM|| 2003-10-24 11:19:47 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 disregard my last about the pic...I see it now. Can't tell by the resolution if its real deal or just the guys playing w/the kids.

Posted by Jarhead 2003-10-24 11:24:04 AM|| 2003-10-24 11:24:04 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 Fred. Yeah, I knew that, but it's funny how AlJiz and the lovely Yvonne never bring that up. Classic lefty propaganda.

Posted by tu3031 2003-10-24 11:36:13 AM|| 2003-10-24 11:36:13 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 What makes some of you think that the child is not being frisked? It'd be a ridiculous breach of security not to frisk *everyone*, regardless of age or sex.

"Here, my desert flower, stick this plastique in your burqua. Mahmoud Jr. will carry the fuses and detonators. I'll collect it back from you once we pass the checkpoint."

This still pic means nothing. Video would have been more convincing. If the soldier playfully frisks the kid, so the kid thinks it's more just a fun game, it wouldn't be so bad. But then that wouldn't promote Yvonne's agenda, would it?

Posted by Dar 2003-10-24 12:03:33 PM|| 2003-10-24 12:03:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Rachel (Saint Pancake) Corrie.

HA! That's a good one.

Posted by Charles 2003-10-24 12:05:18 PM|| 2003-10-24 12:05:18 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 "A secretly taken picture of an American soldier frisking an Afghan child has shocked human rights campaigners across the world."

Agreed, Dar. Only a complete moron would think frisking's something you do only to people over a certain age. You frisk because you're looking for concealed items. It follows that the concealee will conceal those items where they're least likely to be discovered. If the friskers aren't frisking the kiddies, they'll conceal the items on the kiddies. unless they're as stupid as our Yvonne.

The woman's on another planet.

Posted by Bulldog 2003-10-24 12:29:17 PM|| 2003-10-24 12:29:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 One thing the picture does show is that it's not the Afghan kid who's humping a 65-pound pack 5,000 miles from home.

Posted by Matt 2003-10-24 12:34:57 PM|| 2003-10-24 12:34:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 Why don't they also tell about an 11 year old kid with explosives who killed several Israeli soldiers when they let him approach them as he was crying. That occured in Jenin so why should it be any different in Bagdad?

Posted by Barry 2003-10-24 12:45:40 PM|| 2003-10-24 12:45:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 The objective of this whining from the fifth column is simply to force the implementation of new rules that will make it easier for their terrorist friends to conceal weapons on children. The Left has already institutionalized the inviolability of mosques and other "holy sites", allowing their exploitation as arsenals and terrorist sanctuaries.
It is the terrorists and their hypocritical swine apologists who exploit and abuse children, just as they desecrate holy sites with weapons caches.
There is nothing peaceful about peace activists. They are not dupes or naive fools, they are ruthless power-seeking hypocrites and murder-apologists whose every pronouncement is calculated to assist the totalitarian enemy.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2003-10-24 1:00:22 PM|| 2003-10-24 1:00:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Just wanted to drop a note. Post or not as you see fit...

An incident yesterday prompted me to think (as well as to boil with anger)...

I live in NYC. I was walking thru Union Square. A jackass was putting up a big banner that said "Stop Bush". The "S" in Bush was a Swastika. Now, I'm no fan of Bush (settle down), but I told the guy the Swastika was incredibly offensive. ME: "You saying the USofA is a Fascist state ie Nazi Germany?" HIM:"Yes". I walked away as he screamed at me. Across the street I run into "Jews for peace" or something like that. IMHO opinion they have the blood of innocent people on their hands. I told them so. They yelled at me (as opposed to TO me). I walked away again. Ruined my day.

I read this site almost everyday. Tho posters are able to back up their opinions with intelligent comments that reflect a knowledge of history. The views of people who actually serve(d) in the military is also a welcome viewpoint. I don't agree with everything, but I can least respect the opposing position. I was raised a liberal (small "L") Jew. Married a girl raised Catholic. My father in law is an ex marine. My brother in law is gay. And everybody gets along! I think this mix of people enables me to be somewhat objective and see how things play out in the "Real" world.
That's all....

Posted by pill 2003-10-24 1:11:13 PM|| 2003-10-24 1:11:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 Here's Yvonne's bio from the BBC when the Taliban had her back in 2001:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1570394.stm

Some interesting tidbits in there. Especially, her kid's daddy.

Posted by tu3031 2003-10-24 4:17:56 PM|| 2003-10-24 4:17:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 The picture is hilarious, If you had been there, you would have seen the gum or the Lifesavers come out next - without a doubt.

We lost a helo trying to medivac a sick kid from the Afghan mountains in the middle of winter.

It's not just the GI's with the gum and Lifesavers bit, I'm sure soldiers from every Western country do the same thing. One reason that soldiers like kids is that some of these GI's probably have kids that old or younger at home and miss them.

Heard a story once about some Air Force guys after WWII that arranged to air drop toys and candy to kids throughout West Germany. Without authorization they began to fly over East Germany and drop as well.
Some officer pitched a fit, but the load master told him something to the effect of, "sir, the damn commie kids like toys and candy too." The crew continued to make drops into East Germany.

Posted by Super Hose 2003-10-24 5:59:35 PM|| 2003-10-24 5:59:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 Mr.Ansiri: "Drats Abu! Our high tech weapon delivery system plans have somehow fallen into enemy hands. Foiled again!!!

Female suicide bombers (Isreal and Chechnya), Pics of Paleo kids dressed up in suicide garb,
History of Vietnamese kids employed in the same fashion (shoebox bombs, grenades strapped under their armpits and told to go touch the US planes, etc)

Some people just don't get it!

God bless the Marines!

Posted by Paul 2003-10-24 6:24:02 PM|| 2003-10-24 6:24:02 PM|| Front Page Top

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