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2014-10-02 Syria-Lebanon-Iran
ISIL advancing on grandfather of the founder of Ottoman Empire's tomb in Syria
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Posted by Fred 2014-10-02 00:00|| || Front Page|| [7 views ]  Top
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#1 Who knew?
Huh, everyday it's something new.
Posted by Shipman 2014-10-02 05:45||   2014-10-02 05:45|| Front Page Top

#2 On 27 March 2014, recordings were released on YouTube of a conversation purportedly involving Turkish foreign minister Ahmet Davutoğlu, Foreign Ministry Undersecretary Feridun Sinirlioğlu, National Intelligence Organization (MİT) head Hakan Fidan, and Deputy Chief of General Staff General Yaşar Güler. The recording has been reported as being probably recorded at Davutoğlu's office at the Foreign Ministry on 13 March. Transcripts of the conversation reveal that, as well as exploring the options for Turkish forces engaging in false flag operations inside Syria, the meeting involved a discussion about using the threat to the tomb as an excuse for Turkey to intervene militarily inside Syria. Davutoğlu stated that Erdogan told him that he saw the threat to the tomb as an "opportunity." Wiki

Opportunity? Never let a crisis go to waste maxim of Rahm Emmauel? Who would have known his fame had spread to Turkey.
Posted by JohnQC 2014-10-02 14:22||   2014-10-02 14:22|| Front Page Top

#3 back in March, Turkey probably underestimated the strength of ISIS and overestimated the strength of Assad

since ISIS took a bunch of Turkish diplos hostage (the hostages were released presumably there was an indirect ransom), Turkey has been more sheepish about taking on ISIS with ground forces
Posted by lord garth 2014-10-02 14:27||   2014-10-02 14:27|| Front Page Top

#4 presumably there was an indirect ransom

Probably a trade for a multiple number of prisoners, either in Turkey or elsewhere. President Erdogan talked vaguely about the example set by the US (for that deserter) and Israel (for Schalit, et al).
Posted by trailing wife 2014-10-02 19:40||   2014-10-02 19:40|| Front Page Top

#5 Given the proximity, Turkish resources, and transit through Turkey by ISIL members, seems like it would have been straightforward for the Turks to scoop up some ISIL players to trade for their diplomatic staff.
Posted by Classical_Liberal 2014-10-02 20:23||   2014-10-02 20:23|| Front Page Top

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