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2012-06-01 Afghanistan

Yon: "Proof that Military puts media message before troops' lives"

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Posted by mom 2012-06-01 10:01|| || Front Page|| [2 views ] Top

#1 "Proof that Military puts ~~media message~~politicans before troops' lives"

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2012-06-01 10:39|| 2012-06-01 10:39|| Front Page Top

#2 The cross is offensive to mooslims. MEDIVAC helo's with red crosses.... good to go. MRAP's and other vehciles that transit haji villages....not so much.

Posted by Besoeker 2012-06-01 10:57|| 2012-06-01 10:57|| Front Page Top

#3 Put the Red Crescent on the medivac helos. Problem solved.

Posted by Steve White 2012-06-01 11:23|| 2012-06-01 11:23|| Front Page Top

#4 "The cross is offensive..."

Filed under "tough shit"

Posted by mojo 2012-06-01 11:38|| 2012-06-01 11:38|| Front Page Top

#5 "The MNC-I SJA recommends against using the M249 on MRAP ambulances marked with a red cross. Though not a technical violation of international law, using an M249 on a vehicle marked with a medical symbol would have negative IO implications in the ITO."

See, shiite like that makes me wish I'd stayed in. Commanders are the client and it is the lawyer's job to get to yes. NOTHING forbids tactical self-defense, which is in fact explicitly authorized by Geneva and everything else.

However: I note that it only bars only crew-served weapons from the cupola. Surely there are other types of weapons that could be suitably employed?

Posted by RandomJD 2012-06-01 11:40|| 2012-06-01 11:40|| Front Page Top

#6 However: I note that it only bars only crew-served weapons from the cupola. Surely there are other types of weapons that could be suitably employed?

A forward air controller and a B1B loitering nearby?

Posted by Lemuel Ulirong8195 2012-06-01 12:55|| http://www.freefirezone.org 2012-06-01 12:55|| Front Page Top

#7 Just let everyone know that at first the ambulances won't come armed, but touch one of them and they will. Taliban's choice as to how we proceed.

Doesn't get much better than that.

Posted by gorb 2012-06-01 13:01|| 2012-06-01 13:01|| Front Page Top

#8 A forward air controller and a B1B loitering nearby?

A dude with a radio? Sounds good to me!

Wait a second . . . don't B1Bs carry nukes? Tactical self-defense, Mr. LU8195. Don't bust the lawyer's balls here. :)

Posted by RandomJD 2012-06-01 13:22|| 2012-06-01 13:22|| Front Page Top

#9 A B-1B can carry iron bombs,t's just a bitch to load being 15 feet from the ground to the bomb bay (who ever designed that obviously hated air crew).

AND it can drop 1000 lb bombs from here to next tuesday continuously, much in the grand tradition of the Arclights of B-52 origin.

Posted by Bill Clinton 2012-06-01 13:33|| 2012-06-01 13:33|| Front Page Top

#10 who ever designed that obviously hated air crew

The iron bomb capability was added well after the nuke capability. Actually it was added and then taken out as a "cost saving measure." Then it was re-added after Reagan left office.

It's greatest use now is to loiter in-theater with a bunch of JDAMs, and do the work of a dozen F-16s.

Posted by Frozen Al 2012-06-01 15:50|| 2012-06-01 15:50|| Front Page Top

#11 Note that it applies to US Army MRAP ambulances.

Somebody ever tell Mr. Yon that the Army isn't the only "military" in Afghanistan?

Posted by Pappy 2012-06-01 19:55|| 2012-06-01 19:55|| Front Page Top

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