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2006-01-24 International-UN-NGOs
The pope's unexploded bombshell
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Posted by ed 2006-01-24 00:50|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Within the narrow context of Islam as a religion "worthy of belief", the Pope is gener correct as the word died with Mohammed himself. i.e. no way to prove or disprove, except by the study and close analysis of supra-normal or extra-normal events, prophecies and phenomenon. plus of course the quality of Muslim life and civilization. To use MARIAN APPARITIONS as example, "Mary" has appeared, in clearly anatatomically-corect "human" apparition, before massed crowds consisting of both believer, non-believer, secularist and athiest, etc. alike, so has "Jesus", Prophets and Saints. No such characteristic can be claimed, however, to my knowledge for "Mohammedan" apparitions or visions per se, iff any, MadMoud notwithstanding.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2006-01-24 01:39||   2006-01-24 01:39|| Front Page Top

#2 Original source for bombshell has retracted key part of his statement
the Holy Father did not say, nor did I, that "Islam is incapable of reform."
Posted by Whutch Threth6418 2006-01-24 10:26||   2006-01-24 10:26|| Front Page Top

#3 Doesn't seem to much of a denial: The meeting was an informal one of the Holy Father and his former students. The presentation and the discussion were in German, and the Holy Father was not speaking from a prepared text. My German is passable but not entirely reliable. My later remarks in a live radio interview were extemporaneous. I think I paraphrased the Holy Father with general accuracy, but it was an indiscretion for me to mention what he said at all, and my impromptu paraphrase in another language should not be used for a careful exegesis of the mind of the Holy Father.

The gist: The pope said it, but he may not have used those exact words. And if you try to pin me down to exactly the words used, I claim ignorance of German. Please don't fatwa my ass.
Posted by ed 2006-01-24 14:14||   2006-01-24 14:14|| Front Page Top

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