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2005-01-18 Home Front: WoT

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Posted by tipper 2005-01-18 10:20|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 The media has ignored the slaughter of Christians since the early 70's. This is nothing new. What is new is that the blogosphere can report it outside the local area. Were it not for the blogosphere, you wouldn't be aware of this murder.

Posted by 2b 2005-01-18 10:41:49 AM|| 2005-01-18 10:41:49 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 The American LLL MSM does seem to be on an unstoppable stampede towards total irrelevancy.

Posted by Bulldog 2005-01-18 10:42:17 AM|| 2005-01-18 10:42:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Seems you have the same problem as we do in the UK... undeniably some of the UK media sideline stories that show religious/ethnic minorities in a bad light and instead allow us to feed on the cult of personality ... The Beckhams, the Royals etc... in order to shield us from the painful reality. I live in the same area of London where the infamous but much trumpeted Stephen Lawrence murder occurred - a similar murder occurred recently with a reverse racial profile: 4 Afro-Caribbean men attacked a lone white male. Was it reported - even tho it occurred in a busy supermarket car park at 4 in the afternoon? - Not a chance!! Seems to be a similar conspiracy here.

Posted by Howard UK 2005-01-18 10:47:57 AM|| 2005-01-18 10:47:57 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 All this tip-toeing by the MSM concerning Christian killing has been pissing me off for a long time. I am surprised to see that even Fox News is walking on rice paper on this one.

Not too long ago, there was a bombing in Soddy that killed quite a bit of Lebanese people. What the MSM wack job failed to report, is that these Lebanese were Christians.

I encourage everyone at RB to read this article for some further insight into what most of RB knows already

Posted by Poison Reverse 2005-01-18 11:03:48 AM|| 2005-01-18 11:03:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 the MSM understands that there is no such thing as negative publicity. Thus for years, they have completely ignored religion - all faiths.

TV shows - all are almost completely void of any references to going to church, synagogue, prayer, or belief in God, despite the fact that there are churches and synagogues on every corner in America - and people fill them.

Radio - despite 500 years worth of the best songs being passed down in churches and synagogues - you will almost NEVER ever hear any of that music on the radio. Think- other than the occassional "amazing grace" sung by a really BIG star that can do whatever they want - when was the last time you heard any of the beautiful and popular religious songs on the radio. It's not because people don't like it - it's been purposely ignored.

NEWS STORIES - never a peep about ANYTHING religious. Christian and Jewish people murdered/massacred in sectarian violence are always ignored by the MSM.

And they ignore it for good reason..if you ignore it, it doesn't exist. And when it can't be ignored the focus will be on something else - American Hegemony or Zionist occupation. No publicity - none because the MSM understands that there is no such thing as negative publicity.

MSM/radio/Hollywood ignores religion to the degree that it simply cannot be an oversight.

What I find to be most interesting right now is the endless discussions by the left sniping about "Jesus Land" or "morality". This has to be because the lefty bloggers didn't get the memo that by simply acknowledging Jesus land - you promote it.

Posted by 2b 2005-01-18 11:31:51 AM|| 2005-01-18 11:31:51 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 I'm not convinced it's hostility to christians that's motivating editors' relative silence here.

Given the incompetence and tendency toward sensationsalism of the MSM, it's a good thing that they're holding back on reporting this. Would you want these jokers to mangle the story and get it wrong? How would that help public awareness of what exactly we're up against?

Patience. Let the FBI investigation go forward and let the facts come out in due course.

Posted by lex 2005-01-18 11:42:01 AM|| 2005-01-18 11:42:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 You could be sure that if the victims were Moslems it would be 24/7 news.

Posted by 2b 2005-01-18 11:46:23 AM|| 2005-01-18 11:46:23 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 No doubt 2b, the MSM would put this country through a month long, non-stop anal examination.

Posted by Rex Mundi 2005-01-18 11:50:10 AM|| 2005-01-18 11:50:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 anal examination lol!

If it fits the white/Judeo/Christian oppressor theme, it will get endless airtime.

Posted by 2b 2005-01-18 11:51:50 AM|| 2005-01-18 11:51:50 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 I think you're missing the point here. MSM journalists' incompetence rises in direct proportion to their ignorance of the particular social group or social activity under examination. It's bad enough when MSM morons try to figure out what's happening within the evangelical community, but in this case we're talking about a feud within an arab community that is even more of a black box to MSM editors and journos than evangelicals are. These people have no sources or insight into that community.

The chances that they would screw up the story at this stage are close to 100%. I'm not bothered at all that these clowns are not mangling the story.

Posted by lex 2005-01-18 12:05:27 PM|| 2005-01-18 12:05:27 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 I agree and disagree lex. Ignorance alone doesn't explain the fact that true slavery and Christian massacres have been 100% ignored. It also doesn't explain why the music industry ignores beautiful and popular religious music.

Pat Boone's neice gave up a lucrative career in music because she refused to sign a contract that prohibited her from singing Christian music.

It's not just Christians that are ignored - it's GOD in general. They give Muslim deaths the airplay only in the context of white/Judeo/Christian oppressors.

Posted by 2b 2005-01-18 12:13:55 PM|| 2005-01-18 12:13:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 prohibited from singing Christian songs , huh? Anybody tell Elvis? Johnny Cash?

Posted by Frank G 2005-01-18 12:20:05 PM|| 2005-01-18 12:20:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Here's another reason to welcome the MSM's silence on this: here's a chance for the blogosphere and talk radio to research this and develop and put forward sources and insights in the MSM's stead. A test case of sorts for the blogosphere.

Posted by lex 2005-01-18 12:23:28 PM|| 2005-01-18 12:23:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 I think Johhny Cash and Elvis qualify as "big stars" who can do whatever they want...as I said above.

Besides - country music gets more of a pass because it is/was a whole different industry.

Posted by 2b 2005-01-18 12:25:59 PM|| 2005-01-18 12:25:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 lex...I agree.

One last point - I used to tune into the 700 Clubs (and yes...I think whatever his name is ..pat roberts? is a flaming moron) but their World Report had these absolutely fantastic stories about slavery, christian genocide, et al that were just world class. I remember one in particular about Jewish Doctors who performed surgery on Palestinian children - for free. It was one of the most dramatic and touching doc's I've ever seen...the footage and stories was top notch.

So, it's not like the stories weren't out there to be told. They were just ignored.

Posted by 2b 2005-01-18 12:31:05 PM|| 2005-01-18 12:31:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 I like your point in #13 lex, I think (hope) we're already seeing it.

Posted by Rex Mundi 2005-01-18 12:33:24 PM|| 2005-01-18 12:33:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 2b - plus they're dead, lol. By and large, the christian "rock" I've heard is pretty sad stuff. None of the heart and intensity that gospel music had.

Posted by Frank G 2005-01-18 12:40:01 PM|| 2005-01-18 12:40:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 I'm not talking about "Christian Rock", I gotta agree with you on that one. I'm talking about the good stuff . The songs that have made people sing along for more than half a millennium.

Posted by 2b 2005-01-18 12:43:04 PM|| 2005-01-18 12:43:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 Don't you ever wonder why you never heard the Supremes or any of the soul groups sing favorite gospel songs on popular radio? They would have been instant hits!

Posted by 2b 2005-01-18 12:46:19 PM|| 2005-01-18 12:46:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 The media has ignored the slaughter of Christians since the early 70's
I agree with 2b. MSM purposely ignores bad things happening to Christians, and play up bad things done by Christians. This is a very different from the way news stories are handled regarding visible minorities and other religious groups including Muslims and Jews. With regards to the latter, the MSM will make criticisms directed at Sharon's and Israel's policies, but the Jewish religion is not blackballed as per what is done with Christianity.

If there was a chance that this Egyptian family had been slaughtered by a straight white male Christian, it would have been front page news, regardless of how far along the FBI's investigation had come.

Posted by 2xstandard 2005-01-18 12:47:05 PM|| 2005-01-18 12:47:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 Flipping around the dial I heard an Eddie Vetter-like voice growling and moaning, with grungy guitar riffs accompanying, about how he "searched for yewwwwwwwww, i missssssed you, i was there fer yewwwwww but yew weren't therrrrrrrre..."

It was the local Christian grunge station. Very entrepreneurial.

Posted by lex 2005-01-18 12:48:21 PM|| 2005-01-18 12:48:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 thanks 2x.

Lex...Frank G..you telling me that you a rousing rendition of Hava Nagila wouldn't make sing along in the shower? I'm not just talking about Christian music here.

Posted by 2b 2005-01-18 12:51:28 PM|| 2005-01-18 12:51:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 oops..sorry about the grammer...my point is that religious music - popular religious music is conspicuoulsy missing from the airwaves in a way that does Stalin proud....unless it is sung by a very big star. Why is that? It's not because it wouldn't make the charts.

Posted by 2b 2005-01-18 12:56:28 PM|| 2005-01-18 12:56:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 Hmmm, I don't think there's a concerted effort, as you seem to say, just a down cycle in the music theme? P.O.D. does hard rock with Christian themes, and they're good, and they get airtime, but as you say, they're the exception, rather than the rule.

Posted by Frank G 2005-01-18 1:03:58 PM|| 2005-01-18 1:03:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 Sometimes, the lyrics matter more to you; sometimes, the music. Depends on your mood and what stage of life you're at, I think. I would listen to Christian musicians, even if I didn't walk step in step with their beliefs (as expressed through the lyrics), as long as the music was remarkable.

Posted by Jules 187 2005-01-18 1:04:20 PM|| 2005-01-18 1:04:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#26 I gotta go..but I would say that it is, at the very least, interesting that all references God are wiped clean from the TV, news and radio. Which gets back to the story posted here....they just won't cover it unless it has a negative angle.

Endless coverages for molesting priests but NEVER a word about feeding the hungry, housing the homeless or caring for the elderly. Don't you ever wonder why?

Posted by 2b 2005-01-18 1:09:38 PM|| 2005-01-18 1:09:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#27 2b - I think that the entertainment industry realizes that its "target audience" would most likely just sneer at the sound of true gospel music being played because it is what they have been trained to do. With a generation today that spends more time in front of a television screen than with their families the entertainment business has a total monopoly on the collective minds of the youth of this nation. They will listen to what they are told to listen to and they will buy what they are told to buy.

Posted by J 2005-01-18 1:11:51 PM|| 2005-01-18 1:11:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#28 by negative angle - I mean anti-white/Judeo/Christian angle.

Posted by 2b 2005-01-18 1:15:23 PM|| 2005-01-18 1:15:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#29 entertainment business has a total monopoly on the collective minds of the youth of this nation
Yes. Agree. And GOD has been wiped clean from that, despite the fact that 90% believe.

But you don't have to believe in God to think it odd that they won't cover stories about Slavery in Africa, Christian genocide or play really good Gospel on the air. I'll sing along to foreign music that I can't even understand... so it's not the words that are at issue here.

I think I've pounded my thought to the ground and I really do have to go. But if you think about it - it really is very odd.

Posted by 2b 2005-01-18 1:24:02 PM|| 2005-01-18 1:24:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#30 Sometimes, the lyrics matter more to you; sometimes, the music. Depends on your mood and what stage of life you're at,

At the cross, at the cross
where the train killed my hoss
and the wheels of my buggy rolled away....

Posted by Shipman 2005-01-18 1:27:10 PM|| 2005-01-18 1:27:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#31 Don't know that one...

Posted by Jules 187 2005-01-18 1:32:35 PM|| 2005-01-18 1:32:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#32 Little bit of math for you that will explain why the big money players at the top of the entertainment industry are so clueless.

In the entertainment business, Time is Money.

Also in the entertainment business its well known that Knowledge is power.

So I'll look at this as an engineer...

As an Engineer, I know Power = Work / Time.

So given the conditions of the entertainmen industry I can substitute Knowledge for Power and Money for Time, giving the following equation:

Knowledge = Work / Money.

Solving that for Money we have:

Money = Work / Knowledge.

So the more knowledge you have the more work you need to do to get money in the entertainment industry.

But also - notice that no matter how much work you do, the less you know the more money you will have.

So that explains it!

In Hollywood, it doesnt matter how much you work, the less you know the more you make!

Those who make the most know the least - this is readily observable in the general population in the entertainment business, especially with Michael Moore and other leading leftie looines as prime examples.

This yields the conclusion:

To be on the top of the money list in entertainment, you dont need to know anything at all!

Posted by OldSpook 2005-01-18 1:49:03 PM|| 2005-01-18 1:49:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#33 Note: I am working on a similar hypothesis for money mavens, with Soros being my initial case study...

Posted by OldSpook 2005-01-18 1:49:33 PM|| 2005-01-18 1:49:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#34 Christian rock? Stryper rules!

Er...scratch that--they were pretty awful. Sorry to have intruded.

Posted by Crusader 2005-01-18 2:25:22 PM|| 2005-01-18 2:25:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#35 #10 and #13...

Lex, I would completely agree with you, if I actually believed that the MSM was being cautious on this story due to their desire to get the facts before reporting it. However, they do not show such respect for the truth and deliberation in other situations when the facts are not completely known.

Posted by mjh 2005-01-18 2:38:12 PM|| 2005-01-18 2:38:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#36 mjh...os...I used to agree with you both, but now I'm not so sure it's ignorance.

Think of it this way. Imagine if the news/TV/Radio almost NEVER made reference to African Americans. All actors white, news only about white people, no black sports players, no black musicians. Ahh...but they were willing to report only news/events that portrayed AA in a bad light.

That is an excellent analogy to the point I'm trying to make re: the total white-wash re: refrences about religion or God. This isn't about belief or no belief ...it's about an oddity where an aspect of our culture is completely absent from all aspects of the MSM.

Why is a perfect example? Because a similar "white-wash" existed back in the 50's for AA's. They just simply weren't there, except for an occasional bug-eyed yasssir. It wasn't like it was an actual conspiracy..but it was reflective of an intent to oppress.

The other article today - about only bad news from Iraq just makes me wonder - how long are we going to blame this "oddity" on naive ignorance??

Posted by 2b 2005-01-18 3:47:29 PM|| 2005-01-18 3:47:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#37 Off topic on the original story but somewhat on topic RE: the christian music thread. I listen a lot to www.live365.com stations, especially the Southern Gospel stations, i.e. All Quartets Stereo and Gospel Twang Radio.

I agree with Lex's #13 post, let the Blogs take the lead on this story. It will only prove one more time how irrelevent the MSM has become.

Posted by Constitutional Individualist 2005-01-18 8:20:34 PM|| 2005-01-18 8:20:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#38 Tipper: I doubt the killings were done by a former tenant...why kill the children?? (possible witness) Nothing was taken from the home? Why are so many invoking the 5th? Yes, the 1st amendment should prevail. As a society know one should have to live in such fear for the freedom of speech. The 7th - Freedom of Religion. Lets hope the authorities catch the right criminal.

Andrea Jackson

Posted by Andrea 2005-01-18 8:53:10 PM|| 2005-01-18 8:53:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#39 Little bit of math for you that will explain why the big money players at the top of the entertainment industry are so clueless.

In the entertainment business, Time is Money.

Also in the entertainment business its well known that Knowledge is power.

So I'll look at this as an engineer...

As an Engineer, I know Power = Work / Time.

So given the conditions of the entertainmen industry I can substitute Knowledge for Power and Money for Time, giving the following equation:

Knowledge = Work / Money.

Solving that for Money we have:

Money = Work / Knowledge.

So the more knowledge you have the more work you need to do to get money in the entertainment industry.

But also - notice that no matter how much work you do, the less you know the more money you will have.

So that explains it!

In Hollywood, it doesnt matter how much you work, the less you know the more you make!

Those who make the most know the least - this is readily observable in the general population in the entertainment business, especially with Michael Moore and other leading leftie looines as prime examples.

This yields the conclusion:

To be on the top of the money list in entertainment, you dont need to know anything at all!

Posted by OldSpook 2005-01-18 1:49:03 PM|| 2005-01-18 1:49:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#40 Note: I am working on a similar hypothesis for money mavens, with Soros being my initial case study...

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