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Dried elephant dung causes terror alert in Paris
A reddish powder trickling from a letter caused a terrorism alert in a Paris postal sorting office - but turned out to be dried elephant dung, police said on Wednesday. Six staff and two policemen were medically examined after contact with the powder - but it was found on analysis to be of the sort used in religious rites in Sri Lanka, a spokesman said. Paris has been in its second-highest state of terrorism alert following the July 7 and 21 bombings in London.

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#1  That is pure bull elephant shit.
Posted by: JFM || 08/04/2005 10:26 Comments || Top||

#2  Something about this situation stinks.
Posted by: mmurray821 || 08/04/2005 10:35 Comments || Top||

#3  used in religious rites in Sri Lanka

(snort) "Dammmmmm, that's some goooood shit!"
Posted by: Steve || 08/04/2005 10:43 Comments || Top||

#4  A minor point, but just who mails dried elephant shit to people these days?
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 10:44 Comments || Top||

#5  I believe they intercepted the next Secret Ingredient for the French version of Iron Chefs
Posted by: BrerRabbit || 08/04/2005 10:46 Comments || Top||

#6  "A minor point, but just who mails dried elephant shit to people these days?"

A new Al-Qaeda splinter group called the Islamieatshit Brigade
Posted by: Attucks is Crisp || 08/04/2005 10:50 Comments || Top||

#7  Chirac always has said that the French food is better.
Posted by: Captain America || 08/04/2005 11:15 Comments || Top||

#8  Elephant? I knew those evil conservatives were using terror alerts to further their own diabolical political motives!
Posted by: Chris W. || 08/04/2005 11:19 Comments || Top||

#9  "Sacre bleu! The Republicans, they are in Paris!"
Posted by: Mike || 08/04/2005 11:21 Comments || Top||

#10  Tell the inspector it's dried elephant shit and give 'em 6 grams.

Sounds like the olde Religious Rites Dodge.


Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 11:52 Comments || Top||

#11  "A minor point, but just who mails dried elephant shit to people these days?"

Signifigant postage savings can be had by shipping the "dried" variety. Just add Evian water.
Posted by: Capsu 78 || 08/04/2005 12:11 Comments || Top||

#12  Come to think of it, I suppose they should be grateful that it was dried...
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 12:17 Comments || Top||

#13  And they collect it intentionally!

Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 12:31 Comments || Top||

#14  Everyone's a specialist these days.
Posted by: Thagum Unolusing9859 || 08/04/2005 13:16 Comments || Top||

#15  they still use stamps that need to be licked
oh joy
Posted by: Jan || 08/04/2005 14:09 Comments || Top||

#16  What - you mean it wasn't an art exhibit?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 08/04/2005 19:24 Comments || Top||

#17  Who spilled the secret to French Sri Lankan cuisine?
Posted by: ed || 08/04/2005 20:25 Comments || Top||


Arabia
3 killed, 7 wounded in Yemen tribe clash
Three Yemenis were killed and seven others injured in a clash between rival tribesmen in eastern Yemen Thursday, security sources said. The sources said the clash erupted in the early morning between the tribes of Hamadan and Shulan in the province of Shouf. They said gunmen from Hamadan tribe, whose chief Hassan al-Iraqi escaped an assassination attempt Wednesday, intercepted a group of armed men from the rival tribe on their way to the capital, Sanaa, and clashed with them.
"Youse guys ain't gonna git away wid shootin' up da boss! Eat lead!"
Three gunmen from the Hamadan tribe, including Iraqi's brother, were killed and seven others injured, some of them suffering serious wounds.
Guess that ambush didn't go as planned
Iraqi and the chief of the Shulan tribe, Amin Akimi, also a member of parliament, were detained at the Defense Ministry for interrogation. Iraqi suffered an injury in the head when gunmen tried to assassinate him as he walked out of the ministry in Sanaa Wednesday.
His least vital spot
Battles between the two biggest tribes in Jouf province has been going on for more than a week.
"Yar, we be the dread tribes of Jouf!"
Posted by: Steve || 08/04/2005 09:16 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Boys will be boys.
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/04/2005 9:28 Comments || Top||


Britain
Mukhtar Said Ibrahim trained by al-Qaeda in Soddy Arabia
He landed in Britain as a child of war and famine, a 14-year-old refugee from Eritrea starting a new life in a rich nation. But almost immediately after he arrived in 1992, according to police and news media reports, Muktar Said Ibrahim became a thug.

Photos from his school days show a smiling boy in a natty blue blazer and red-striped tie, but friends mostly remember booze, dope and fights with fists and racial insults flying. Ibrahim and his mates were notorious muggers; before he was 17, Ibrahim had been sentenced to five years in prison for knife-wielding assaults.

There among the convicts, Ibrahim was introduced to radical Islam, according to media reports. He grew his beard and adopted traditional Muslim clothes. He explained his new religious persona to a friend by saying, "I'm taking life a bit more seriously," the Evening Standard newspaper reported.

Seven years later, Ibrahim, 27, has become the suspected ringleader of a gang of four other alleged Islamic radicals, all of them from East Africa, who turned on their adopted country with an attempt on July 21 to bomb London's subway and bus system.

British authorities are attempting to determine whether Ibrahim and his associates, who are now in custody after their homemade bombs failed to detonate, are linked to the July 7 attacks that killed 56 people, including the four presumed bombers, and wounded 700 on the transit system. Authorities are also trying to determine whether the two incidents were isolated or the start of a violent campaign against the British people, perhaps coordinated by al Qaeda.

With the presumed July 7 bombers dead, this jittery country's best hope of finding those answers may lie with a group of angry young men who found inspiration and leadership from a mugger turned holy warrior.

Yasin Hassan Omar, another member of the group, arrived in London in 1992 at age 11. He had tagged along with his sister and her husband, who were fleeing the violent misery of life in their native Somalia. It is unclear what happened to the family after it reached Britain, but media reports here said young Omar was placed in government-sponsored foster care for the next seven years.

In 1999, when he was 18, a government agency determined that he was a "vulnerable young adult" and awarded him a one-bedroom apartment in north London, which he paid for with a weekly government housing stipend. Sometime shortly after that, reports here said, he took in a boarder: Ibrahim.

Few details have emerged about how the young men met, but reports have said that they may have gravitated toward each other while worshiping at the Finsbury Park mosque in north London, which until 2003 was a center of Islamic extremism. Investigators believe the July 21 attackers mixed their explosives in the apartment where Ibrahim and Omar lived. A neighbor told police she had recently seen Ibrahim in an apartment elevator with a stack of cardboard boxes, which he said contained wallpaper stripper.

Friends have recalled Omar as an avid soccer player and an increasingly vocal Muslim who was often seen with Ibrahim in a local gym and coffee shop. After his arrest, a Muslim shopkeeper recounted that Omar had berated him for selling alcohol. The shopkeeper also said: "Two days after September 11, he was coming into my shop praising bin Laden," the Daily Telegraph reported.

The British public first saw Omar in grainy closed-circuit television surveillance photos from July 21 that showed him fleeing after a failed attack on the subway's Victoria Line near the Warren Street station. A neighbor reported seeing Omar and Ibrahim at their apartment later that day.

Omar was arrested in an apartment in the city of Birmingham in central England six days later, immobilized by a 50,000-volt charge from a police Taser gun. He was the first of the men to be captured.

Two days later, a SWAT team seized Ibrahim as he stood in his underpants on the balcony of a London apartment. As a live national television audience watched, he was taken into custody with Ramzi Mohammed, a short, athletic-looking man. Police were apparently brought there by a tip from a neighbor who had seen Ibrahim's picture.

Police allege that Mohammed attempted to blow up a subway car near the Oval station in south London on July 21, while Ibrahim was allegedly trying to detonate a bomb on a double-decker bus. Wearing a sweat shirt emblazoned with "New York," Mohammed managed to escape a group of angry passengers who chased and tried to tackle him.

His brother, Wahbi Mohammed, who is said to be a London bus driver, was arrested that same day at a dwelling nearby. Police suspect he is a fifth conspirator from July 21 who left a bomb in a backpack in a city park. It is unclear why the bomb was left there.

It is also unclear how Ramzi Mohammed and Ibrahim came together, although various witnesses have reported seeing them together in a coffee shop near Notting Hill. But the Mohammed brothers, described in media reports as being from Somalia and in their twenties, shared Ibrahim's passion for radical Islam, according to accounts provided by friends and the imam at their mosque.

Ahmed Dahdouh, imam of the Muslim Cultural Heritage Center in North Kensington, told British reporters that the Mohammed brothers often wore white Muslim robes and were well known for their radical views. They ran a stall in Notting Hill where they distributed Islamic books and pamphlets. Much of the material was reportedly radical, and Dahdouh said they harshly criticized him for his moderate outlook, calling him an "infidel."

"Ramzi and his brother used to come here in the mosque. There were four or five of them in the group. They caused a lot of trouble," Dahdouh told the Times of London newspaper. "They used to pray on their own, as they used to think we were not proper Muslims. In one of my Friday sermons, I once said that Islam forbids terrorism. I recall Ramzi later came up to me and told me, 'Why did you say that? It's wrong.' " Dahdouh said Mohammed was angry and tried unsuccessfully to have him fired.

Five days after the July 21 attacks, Issac Hamdi, also known as Osman Hussain, who is suspected of trying to detonate a bomb in a subway car near the Shepherd's Bush station, boarded a train that took him under the English Channel to continental Europe. The apparent ease with which he left the country has sparked new debate about how strictly Britain should monitor its borders in the era of a largely borderless European Union.

Tracing his cell phone as he traveled through Paris, Milan and Bologna, police eventually tracked the naturalized British citizen, reportedly 27 and born in Ethiopia, to his brother's apartment in Rome. He was arrested there on July 29.

In the days following his arrest, Italian investigators leaked detailed accounts of their questioning of Hamdi -- unlike British authorities, who can face prosecution for disclosing details of an ongoing criminal investigation. According to several accounts published in Italian newspapers, Hamdi identified Ibrahim as the ringleader of the July 21 group.

Hamdi reportedly said that he and Ibrahim met at a gym in Notting Hill, where they worked out and practiced martial arts, and where Ibrahim showed him videotapes of the war in Iraq. He reportedly also said they worshiped together at the Finsbury Park mosque. Hamdi said Ibrahim told him they "had to do something big" in response to the U.S.-led effort in Iraq, in which Britain is the main U.S. partner. He said Ibrahim told him how to make and set off the bomb.

Hamdi, who grew up in Italy and speaks fluent Italian, reportedly told investigators he fled to Rome because he had friends and family there. He also said the July 21 group had no ties to al Qaeda.

Hamdi has repeatedly said the July 21 bombs were not intended to hurt anyone; on Wednesday his Italian lawyer said Hamdi contends that the bombs were made of flour. A British law enforcement official quoted in the Evening Standard dismissed those claims and said the bombs were "intended to kill and maim on a devastating scale."

Despite Hamdi's statements that global networks of Islamic radicals were not involved, a Saudi official confirmed to The Washington Post that Hamdi placed a phone call to Saudi Arabia just before he was arrested, a call first reported in the Daily Telegraph. In addition, the official confirmed a report in the Times that Ibrahim had visited Saudi Arabia in 2003 and told friends he was going there to receive training.

Virtually no details have emerged of the interrogations of Ibrahim, who applied for British citizenship in 2003 and received a British passport in September 2004, swearing allegiance to be "faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth."

It also remains unclear whether the attackers intended to carry out suicide bombings or expected to survive.

A longtime neighbor of Ibrahim, Sarah Scott, told reporters that he recently recounted to her a desire to die a martyr and handed her a pamphlet called "Understanding Islam." It contained a passage that said, "Anyone who says: 'There is no God (worthy of worship) except Allah,' and dies holding to that (belief) will enter Paradise."

"He told me he was going to have all these virgins when he got to heaven," Scott told reporters.

Police said Ibrahim's parents went to a local police station and made a report immediately after seeing their son identified on television as a potential suspect. They said he had left home in 1994 and had not visited them for many months. "He lives alone elsewhere," they said. "He is not a close family member."
Posted by: Dan Darling || 08/04/2005 15:21 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I'd be curious to hear if anyone still holds the opinion this is not a disease. A fatal disease.
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 15:38 Comments || Top||


Mustafa Setmariam Nasar still a suspect in London bombings
An accused leader of al-Qaida in Europe - who can take on the appearance of a Westerner when he wants to - is getting fresh scrutiny in the London bombing investigation, thanks to his globe-hopping travels and associations that read like a who's who of international terrorism. Authorities have few clues about the location of Mustafa Setmarian Nasar, whom British officials once had in their grasp and on whose head the United States has put a price of up to $5 million. Nasar's background and travels, described in detail by Western officials and in court and intelligence documents, make him a case study of the intricate connections that tie Muslim extremists around globe and the challenges in tracking highly mobile and easily disguised suspects. He's a Syrian native and a Spanish citizen.

International intelligence agencies have traced Nasar's movements to Syria, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq and at least two European capitals. His name emerged shortly after London's July 7 bombings as a possible suspect, though any ties to those attacks remain unclear at best. A U.S. official, who spoke on condition of anonymity while the London investigations continue, said Nasar's record suggests he is more of an ideologue and writer than operational planner. Yet he has a network of dangerous international contacts, and authorities haven't eliminated the possibility that he plays a role in operations.

He was once in British custody for suspected involvement in bombings that rocked Paris in 1995. Lacking evidence, the British let him go. Spanish authorities allege he played a key role in setting up al-Qaida's structure there and may have been the mastermind of the 2004 Madrid train bombings, which killed 191. Interpol has issued an international arrest warrant. Nasar's 2004 book, ``The International Islamic Resistance Call,'' lays out in 1,600 pages strategies for attacking Islam's enemies. He lists those as ``Jews, Americans, British, Russian and any and all of the NATO countries, as well as any country that takes the position of oppressing Islam and Muslims,'' according to a translation from the Washington-based SITE Institute. Rita Katz, director of the institute, which studies terror groups, said the autobiographical book and related videos are a how-to for radical ``holy warriors.''
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Posted by: Dan Darling || 08/04/2005 15:04 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  By 1988, Nasar was with the mujahedeen fighting the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, where he met Osama bin Laden and became a leader of the Syrians associated with early al-Qaida
I'm starting to see why the Soviets left, evidently the Red Army was outnumbered 120 to 1. Yes, you're thinking about the growth of the Marquis right? Yeah, same thing.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 15:25 Comments || Top||

#2  Nasar

he could be your next door neighbor!
Posted by: 2b || 08/04/2005 15:53 Comments || Top||


Al-Qaeda No 2 warning for London
Osama Bin Laden's lieutenant Ayman al-Zawahri has warned London will face more attacks because of Tony Blair's foreign policy decisions.
His comments were made in a videotape which was broadcast on Arab satellite channel al-Jazeera. The al-Qaeda deputy said: "Blair has brought to you destruction in central London, and he will bring more of that, God willing." Mr Blair has denied his policies caused the 7 July bombs, which killed 56.
Police are still investigating the bombings on Tube trains at Aldgate, Russell Square and Edgware Road, as well as a bus in Tavistock Square, and are also holding 15 people over the failed 21 July attacks. There is a massive police presence on London's streets, with 6,000 officers watching for a repeat of the attacks two and four weeks ago.
Al-Zawahri last appeared in a video in June, saying Muslims should not rely on peaceful protests but should also use violence. He also appeared in a video in February. The Egyptian-born mastermind is thought to be Bin Laden's deputy and to have been hiding in the rugged border areas of either Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Additional: Al-Zawahri, an Egyptian doctor who merged his militant faction with that of al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan in the late 1990s, spoke with a Kalashnikov rifle propped up behind his right shoulder against a plain background. He has been in hiding since the United States invaded Afghanistan in late 2001.

Referring to the Western nations contributing troops to the U.S.-led coalition in Iraq, he said: "As to the nations of the crusader alliance, we have offered you a truce if you leave the land of Islam.
"Hasn't Sheik Osama bin Laden told you that you will not dream of security before there is security in Palestine and before all the infidel armies withdraw from the land of Muhammad?" al-Zawahri added.
"Instead (of accepting the truce), you spilled blood like rivers in our countries and we exploded the volcanoes of wrath in your countries."

He did not name any countries apart from Britain, but he appeared to be referring to the terror attacks in Madrid, Spain, last year that were linked to al-Qaida. "Our message is clear: you will not be safe until you withdraw from our land, stop stealing our oil and wealth and stop supporting the corrupt rulers," al-Zawahri said.

The tape showed al-Zawahri positioned in front of a woven cloth that moved with the wind and showed the sunlight, indicating it appeared to be made outdoors. He was wearing a white robe and a black turban and emphatically wagged his finger at the camera while speaking.
Posted by: Steve || 08/04/2005 08:22 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Thanks for snaffling my post, Steve - and removing the comments.
Posted by: Howard UK || 08/04/2005 8:58 Comments || Top||

#2  So it's official now. Self appointed master of the universe al Zawahri calls all you nutter apologists and "sassy" muslims suffering seething anger type Root Causes thingy in the UK to arms.
Posted by: MunkarKat || 08/04/2005 9:09 Comments || Top||

#3  Sorry, Howard. So far I've pulled three duplicates of this story.
Posted by: Steve || 08/04/2005 9:11 Comments || Top||

#4  No videotape from Binny though. Did he call in sick maybe?
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 9:12 Comments || Top||

#5  So the cheeky pervert of Islam and molester of innocent children has again come out of his hole to look at his shadow. It is a shadow that is hard holding its own these days. Zawahiri's pact with Satan to achieve power from the underground nest of vermin and rodents is well known. It is quite troubling to those who have not sold their souls to Satan. The troubling comes not from selfish fear but fear for generations of God's creations to do his will without a puppet of Satan manipulating disenfranchised people into spreading mayhem and murder in the name of Islam. Zawahiri is coached by the liar of liars who whispers into his ears at night through the mouths of young boys he keeps warm with. Zawahiri fools no one but himself and his associates of darkness. As the child that cannot have what she wants, Zawahiri too throws his tantrums manifested through his repeated calls to murder and oppress the innocent or well intentioned. Oh where art thou Zawahirili and where art thy brother Osama? Conspiring against God and all his creations that is what. Art thee now not unlike God himself and all his gloey Zawahiri? Are you not like his majestic being? You certainly portray the final word of God himself and pass infinite judgement upon all of God's creations. Art thou more robust and more clever than all of God's angels now are you? Have you found a throne yet for you as queen to your king and lord Osama? Will your burqua be spun will gold thread and adorned with blood-red rubies and be tended to by 72 young boys carrying your gold & silver sandals? Zawahiri... your reward from Satan must be vast to drive you down your slippery path slick with the blood of innocents. No suffering at the hands of man is justifiable, and we are all accountable to God. I truely see a fallen creation of God who answers only to Satan even during your charade of praying before others. Shame on you Zawahiri and your husband Osamma. I only await the day when one-eye Omar joins you two in unholy matrimony before your cohorts in Satan's plan. Shame on you pervert of Islam and molester of innocents.
Posted by: Greretch Sleresh2659 || 08/04/2005 9:46 Comments || Top||

#6  Maybe today was binny's turn to *ahem* inspect the goat pen.
Posted by: BH || 08/04/2005 9:46 Comments || Top||

#7  lol, BH! I was wondering what binny was "up" to!
Posted by: BA || 08/04/2005 11:00 Comments || Top||

#8  The al-Qaeda deputy said: "Blair has brought to you destruction in central London, and he will bring more of that, God willing."

We need to get this guy not only for America but for all the SEAL's that died.

"Hasn't Sheik Osama bin Laden told you that you will not dream of security before there is security in Palestine and before all the infidel armies withdraw from the land of Muhammad?" al-Zawahri added.

Isn't in their minds the whole earth Muhammad's land?
And this is an educated man??
Posted by: Jan || 08/04/2005 11:16 Comments || Top||

#9  baaaaaaaaaaaah. baaaaaaaaaaaaaah. (sounds like one of the 72 virgins calling Binny and his band of merry child molesters).
Posted by: anymouse || 08/04/2005 11:28 Comments || Top||

#10  tu - Binny wan't there 'cause the new issue arrived, and he went to a quiet place to enjoy it...

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Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 12:10 Comments || Top||

#11  For those who saw the video, note the striking difference between the picture at the top and the face you saw in the video. This asstard has aged at least 10 yrs in the last 2. Gooood.
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 12:28 Comments || Top||

#12  Noticed that as well .com. I hpe it's because it's not going well for him. Wonder what Osama looks like
These guys can just say something is going to happen to us, and if 4 idiots in any city decide to do something, Al Qaeda can claim it. Did'nt cost them anything, and our press will give them million of dollars of publicity.
Posted by: plainslow || 08/04/2005 13:45 Comments || Top||

#13  Premature aging is a well-known side effect of using the dark side ...
Posted by: Dan Darling || 08/04/2005 14:44 Comments || Top||

#14  Wonder what Osama looks like

Recent picture here.

(Apologies if my server crashes. It's been flakey.)
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 15:07 Comments || Top||

#15  My eyes!!!!!
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom || 08/04/2005 15:21 Comments || Top||

#16  Yep, looks a little stressy, a little anxiety creeping under the turban to sleep with 'em every night...... forever.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 15:28 Comments || Top||

#17  I wonder how this fool with his illusions of grandeur can even sleep knowing that one misstep and his nest in Pakistan will be either overrun and he taken prisoner or he will be shredded by an explosion. All he can do is posture and run. You and your evil followers think thats something, well it is, it's a joke. An ant farts and he takes credit for it. Pretty soon the little people quit paying attention, I think they already are and he knows it. He is desperate for anything to claim as victory.
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom || 08/04/2005 15:39 Comments || Top||

#18  Fox showed the video excerpt and he wagged his finger a lot. I learned from a body language expert on Cavuto yesterday that finger shaking usually indicates a lie, and the finger pointing a subliminal gun for emphasis. Can't remember what the pointing down was, but I think it was a version of "burn in hell". They showed videos of Clinton, Nixon, and others that were pretty interesting, along with their careful choice of words. Zawarhiri also threatened to do to Washington what we did to Viet Nam....drop Agent Orange or napalm on the Mall?
Posted by: Danielle || 08/04/2005 15:40 Comments || Top||

#19  Sorry, Zawi, the Brits however imperfect are not known for retreating, or losing wars, or surrendering w/o a fight. Demanding for the USA andor the West to leave the "lands of Islam" so that you and Osama, etal. can work on achieving a Global Islamist/Jihadist State vv violence, conquest and misrepresentation isn't gonna cut it. Radical Islam's, the Clintons, and the Commies prob is that you all emanate auras/odors of MALICIOUS FAKERY, SELFISH INSINCERITY AND NON-DEDICATION TO THAT WHICH YOU CLAIM OR ALLEGE TO DEEPLY BELIEVE IN. Saladin and Suleyman, etal. are not known for sending dedicated Islamic youths on random suicide missions in the name of God!? Islam has been highly successful in preserving the traditions and male absolutism-patriarchy of the desert and steppes peoples, but what is yours and Osama's plan to achieve modernity, progress, civil rights and income redistribution, etc. under a Global Jihadist State, other than taking or destroying the Infidel(s)??? As someone whom fougt alongside Osama during the Afghan war I know and believe he hated the secularism and Russification of the Soviets, so why now does he and you Zawi fight for the same Russian/Soviet-esque values of ultra-conservative, anti-democratic, Regulatory, and God=Govt./Bureaucracy-centered "status quo" and National-Global Stratification!? The educated
Osama I remember equated Islam and its famous Personages of history with Democracy, Libertarianism, and Progressiveness, NOT VIOLENCE OR UNIVERSAL ANARCHY/DESTRUCTION OR POWER FOR POWER'S SAKE, TO TAKE FOR TAKING'S SAKE! Its not enough for Islam [or Socialism]to force itself on non-believers.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 08/04/2005 23:32 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Dagestani power station boomed
A bomb exploded at an electric-power substation in Russia's Republic of Daghestan today, but caused no deaths or injuries. The Interior Ministry said the explosive device went off in the middle of the night at a substation near the town of Khasavyurt, which is close to the internal border with war-ravaged Chechnya. The same substation came under fire from a grenade launcher late last month in what the head of the regional power company, who is also a Daghestan government official, called part of a failed plan to mount a series of terrorist attacks on Khasavyurt. The blast at the substation came a day after authorities said they found and defused a bomb near a gas pipeline in another part of Daghestan.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 08/04/2005 15:11 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Pro-Russian Chechens declare jihad on Wahhabism
Chechnya's pro-Moscow Muslim clerics declared a jihad against extreme "Wahhabite" Islam on Thursday in the strifetorn region's second outspoken religious ruling in a week.

"Today we unanimously adopted a resolution. (The religious leaders) announced that (Wahhabites) will bring nothing but harm to the people and to Islam," said Ramzan Kadyrov, a politician who attended the meeting of clerics.

"They are Wahhabites, and we must destroy them. If you ask me, we have a place where we can bury them -- three metres down," said Kadyrov in televised comments. Russian authorities habitually call their opponents in the Chechen conflict "Wahhabites", a term describing the strict Wahhabi branch of Islam but which in Russia has become near-synonymous with "terrorist" during the Chechen conflict.

Chechens traditionally follow a Sufi form of Islam, but the presence of Arab volunteers in the fighting has given Wahhabi Islam a foothold.

Kadyrov is filling in as prime minister while the regional premier Sergei Abramov is away on a tour to improve Chechnya's image in Russia, and has wasted little time in imposing his stamp on the region.

Earlier this week, he ruled gambling was against Islam and ordered all gaming halls closed.

During a brief 1996-9 period of de facto independence from Russia, Chechnya's rebel leadership imposed elements of Islamic law.

Since Russian troops returned to the region nearly six years ago it has followed secular Russian law and it is not clear whether Kadyrov's latest rulings are legal.

Experts say they doubted a declaration of jihad would help Russia win the war and was more likely a ploy for Kadyrov, who commands an army of former rebels, to increase his clout.

"You can accuse anyone of being a so-called Wahhabite. If a man has a grudge against his neighbour, it is easy to say he is a Wahhabite. And how can you prove he isn't?" asked Ismagil Shangareyev, director of Russia's Islamic Human Rights Centre.

"It's like 1937, when people were accused of being Trotskyites who had no kind of idea who Trotsky even was," he told Ekho Moskvy radio.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 08/04/2005 15:11 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Kewl! Can a non-Muslim athiest join the jihad against wahhabism?
Posted by: mmurray821 || 08/04/2005 15:16 Comments || Top||

#2  Los Pepes, here we come....


Posted by: Mark E. || 08/04/2005 15:53 Comments || Top||

#3  The Russian use of the word "Wahabbi", and the US and European avoidance of using that word are interesting. It *is* Wahabbism that is most to blame for Islamist terrorism today; however, it is also the sect which controls Saudi. This is the primary reason why we do not call a spade a spade.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 08/04/2005 16:04 Comments || Top||

#4  and, ironically, our reluctance to call a spade a spade, has led some to focus on Islam IN GENERAL instead. I much prefer the Russian approach.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 08/04/2005 16:20 Comments || Top||

#5  I dunno why it's so hard to use terms like "Wahhabi" and "Khomeinist" when referring to our enemies whether they're flavored Shi'ite or Sunni, LH. "Islamist" is far, far too vague for my tastes ...
Posted by: Dan Darling || 08/04/2005 16:24 Comments || Top||

#6  Cmon Dan, I think Anonymoose has it right about why we use the word Wahabi - whether its grand strategy, or just oil, we dont want to upset the Saudis. Maybe we're stuck with that, but it adds costs in terms of narrowing the problem.

Khomeinists? Not everybody supported by the Mullahs IS a Khomeinist - Hamas and IJ in particular. Khomienist would mainly apply to Hezbollah and Sadrists - and would be relatively obscure.

Posted by: liberalhawk || 08/04/2005 16:38 Comments || Top||

#7  I understand why we don't label the Bad Guys by what they call themselves publicly, but it would sure make data classification a lot easier.

Khomeinism would be the government of Iran, Hezbollah, Sadr, Hezb-e-Ansar, et al.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 08/04/2005 16:47 Comments || Top||

#8  The correct term would be Salafist, of which Wahabi is only one variety (Saudi). Another historical name would be Kharjite - the folks who started the Sunni Shite rift.
Posted by: BlackCat || 08/04/2005 17:24 Comments || Top||

#9  The correct term would be Salafist, of which Wahabi is only one variety (Saudi). Another historical name would be Kharjite - the folks who started the Sunni Shite rift.

Exactly. Now explain that on TeeVee in 3 minutes with proper visuals.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 19:13 Comments || Top||

#10  90 sec. for most stories, plus a 45 sec quote from an expert ....
Posted by: curious .... || 08/04/2005 19:41 Comments || Top||


Caucasus Corpse Count
Ten Russian soldiers and a police officer have been killed and 11 soldiers injured in clashes with Chechen rebels, according to figures released on Tuesday by the pro-Russian administration in Chechnya.

Russian forces deployed helicopters to pursue militants on Tuesday in the southeastern Vedeno region where, according to initial reports, three troops were killed and five were injured in fighting throughout the day.

The government gave no figures for rebel casualties.

Chechen militants also killed five soldiers and wounded six others during more than 20 attacks on checkpoints and military bases.

Two soldiers were killed when a jeep was blown up by a mine near Vychne-Vedeno on Monday and a police officer died when a Chechen police patrol came under fire in the southwestern Urus-Martan region.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 08/04/2005 15:09 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Europe
Bomb made only of flour, says suspect's Italian lawyer
Italian lawyers brains made of pudding; sez Army of Steve
One of the July 21 bomb suspects claimed yesterday the devices used in the alleged attacks contained only flour, according to his lawyer. In a report in Corriere della Sera, Antonietta Sonnessa quoted Hussain Osman, now in custody in Rome, as saying: "I would never have killed anyone, let alone did I even dream of committing a suicide bombing. I value my life, I've never even considered dying. It was a demonstrative action, as I've told you many times. I swear to you: in that bag there was a detonator but the rest was flour. It would have made a bang and scared people. That was all I did."
Pity you left behind that backpack containing that "flour bomb" evidence.
But Mr Osman's claims were dismissed last night by Scotland Yard. A spokesman said: "These devices were designed to kill and maim on a devastating scale."
Next claim will be "But they told me it was only flour! I'm a victim, 'at's what I am!"
"Why don't you believe-e-e-e me-e-e-e???"
Ms Sonnessa made it clear her top priority in defending Mr Osman was to foil efforts by the Crown Prosecution Service to extradite him to Britain. The bedrock of her argument against extradition is that his bomb was merely "a demonstrative action", intended to scare the British public but not meant to hurt anyone. With the help of his lawyer, who according to one Italian paper "has become a sort of diva in Britain", Mr Osman has been at pains to paint himself as a young man with nothing in common with hardcore Islamist terrorists like those who died in the July 7 bombings.
Except for the bomb in his backpack, of course...
It is claimed he is not a Somali but an Ethiopian called Hamdi Isaac who adopted a false name and nationality to obtain refugee status in Britain.
At issue is the bomb in the backpack, not which side of the border he came from...
In Rome, where he lived for several years as a teenager before coming to Britain, his "big dark eyes, like those of a fawn, and his long thick eyelashes" earned him the nickname Bambi, said a former girlfriend quoted in La Repubblica.
That should make him real popular in jug...
"He didn't mix in bad company," she said. "If a fight broke out, he'd always step in to make peace...He was obsessed with America ... He dressed rapper-style, with a dropped crutch and a basketball vest. He danced really well. Everyone knew he was a Muslim and a believer but he never talked about it with me, nor did he have any problems going out with those of us who were not Muslims. It was just that he didn't eat pork."
... and he was into explosives...
... and he had interesting friends ...
Mr Osman's brother Remzi, arrested with Mr Osman after the fugitive was found in his flat on the outskirts of Rome and now locked up in prison with him, went some way to confirming the image of the failed bomber as an innocuous charmer. In comments leaked by Ms Sonnessa, he said: "Hamdi was the baby of the family, and we always loved him." He said he gave him shelter "because I know he's not a terrorist, and certainly I'm not one either. It's true I'm a Muslim, I pray. But I hate the extremists, and it's not right I have to stay in jail just because of my dark skin".
Statement of support by Al Sharpton in 5-4-3-2...
Ms Sonnessa said Mr Osman was terrified at the prospect of being extradited to Britain. "I'm scared of what I could suffer in jail there, I'm scared of having to spend the rest of my life in a cell," she quoted him as saying to her during a three-hour interview in Rome's Regina Coeli prison. "I beg you, do everything you can to enable me to stay here."
Them big dark eyes and long thick eyelashes should make him real popular in the joint, along with his purdy mouth
The lawyer said: "We are examining every possibility to avoid him being handed over to the British authorities. I am convinced here Isaac could get a fair trial and prove that what he did was just a demonstration."
"Dammit, why did I have to draw this wacko, I was just beginning to get ahead in the public defenders office!"
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#1  This strikes me as yelling fire in a theater. It is still illegal.
Plus, I don't buy it for a second.
Fuckyou asshat and I hope you swing.
Posted by: mmurray821 || 08/04/2005 10:53 Comments || Top||

#2  "I'm scared of what I could suffer in jail there, I'm scared of having to spend the rest of my life in a cell,"

Should have carried that "demonstration device" onto the Tube.

And it sounds like his lawyer is a piece of crap, too.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 10:56 Comments || Top||

#3  Tune in again next week for another episode of "Jihadi Pussy"...
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 10:57 Comments || Top||

#4  Oooooooooh, Bambi! I lust for you!
Posted by: Mahmoud Al-Jailbirdi || 08/04/2005 10:59 Comments || Top||

#5  The poor boy was a baker, but he bombed.
Posted by: Captain America || 08/04/2005 11:14 Comments || Top||

#6  Which is worse, the terrorist or the lying rat bastard lawer who wants to turn him free into society? Flour, how fucking stupid do us crackers look?
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 08/04/2005 11:20 Comments || Top||

#7  It's Italy's secret weapon . . . the Pasta Bomb!
Posted by: Mike || 08/04/2005 11:25 Comments || Top||

#8  ""If a fight broke out, he'd always step in to make peace...He was obsessed with wanted to destroy America ... He dressed rapper-style, with a dropped crutch and a basketball vest. He danced really well. Everyone knew he was a Muslim and a believer but he never talked about it with me, nor did he have any problems going out with those of us who were not Muslims. It was just that he didn't eat pork."

OHMYGAWD!!! Where do I start? He was a dancer and a devoted Muslim? Boy, are you an apostate or what? If the infidels don't kill you, the hardliners will.

One thing is for sure. You started of as a baker but you ended up a butcher and will end up being butchered.
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 08/04/2005 11:42 Comments || Top||

#9  Pasta Bomb? hey you laugh? You wait till 10 tons of complex carbo hita you on noggin head!
Posted by: abu Chef Boyardee || 08/04/2005 12:03 Comments || Top||

#10  Guess he and his counsel are mistakenly applying Sharia Law Logic in a civil justice system. Uh, somebody do remind them the caliphate of Eurabia doesn't exist ... yet.
Posted by: MunkarKat || 08/04/2005 12:22 Comments || Top||

#11  Ever seen a grain elevator explosion?
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 08/04/2005 12:44 Comments || Top||

#12  Yeah, some baker in London is wondering why his flour bags were filled with Semtex too. Bullshit!

However, us country boys do recognize one of them thar c-4 biscuits when we taste em.

got that fresh from the armament taste.

EP
Posted by: ElvisHasLeftTheBuilding || 08/04/2005 13:03 Comments || Top||

#13  So this mook was going to set off a bomb that 'simply' scattered white powder around. Gosh, if I was paranoid, I might mistake that for a bio-chem attack when it went off.

I was going to mention dust explosions as in grain elevators, but the ever vigilant Mrs. D beat me to it.

Posted by: SteveS || 08/04/2005 13:11 Comments || Top||

#14  "and the nails were made out of chocolate."
Posted by: danking70 || 08/04/2005 13:53 Comments || Top||

#15  I'd put lol for all these hilarious comments, if I didn't find this so f'ing serious! I'm with bigjim on this one. I say we hang him and his attorney!
Posted by: BA || 08/04/2005 14:24 Comments || Top||

#16  For fans of "The Tick" ...


Posted by: ExtremeModerate || 08/04/2005 14:33 Comments || Top||

#17  Flour and a jelly detonator and custard flies out and covers everyone...
Posted by: Kent Mccord || 08/04/2005 14:56 Comments || Top||

#18  1-Adam 12 we have a 974 in progress. Handle with quilted gloves.

Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 15:34 Comments || Top||

#19  "And this hangman's noose is made of sweet dreams and puppydog's tails...."
Posted by: Mark E. || 08/04/2005 15:50 Comments || Top||

#20  ...I liked the Tick, but my fave on that show was the highly appropriate MIDNIGHT BOMBER WHAT BOMBS AT MIDNIGHT, BABY!!!!!!!

I wanted to be like him when I grew up.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 08/04/2005 20:44 Comments || Top||

#21  Tie up Mr. Osman inside an empty grain silo and then open up a couple hundred sacks of flour and pour the contents in through the top. Close the lid, then induce a spark inside the silo. :)
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 08/04/2005 22:14 Comments || Top||


Extradition Hearing Set for London Bomb Suspect in Rome for Aug. 17
ROME (AP) - An extradition hearing has been set for Aug. 17 for the London bombing suspect jailed here, and a decision on Britain's request for him could come that day, the suspect's lawyer said Thursday. Hamdi Issac was arrested Friday in Rome at the home of his brother a few days after slipping through a London dragnet set up in that city after the botched July 21 bombing attempts of three subway trains and a bus.

Issac's lawyer, Antonietta Sonnessa, told The Associated Press it was likely the judge would make a decision at the Aug. 17 hearing. The court-appointed lawyer has said Issac wants to stay in Italy, suggesting he would oppose being sent to Britain, but no formal opposition was lodged during preliminary proceedings on the extradition request a few days ago. Many extradition requests in Italy take weeks or even months before a judge rules, but Britain has been pressing Rome for Issac's return as it cracks down on terrorism following deadly July 7 mass transit bombings in London.

Rome Prosecutor Pietro Saviotti has said Italian investigators are looking into any possible crimes committed in Italy by the Ethiopian-born Issac, a British citizen. But the prosecutor dismissed any idea that the Italian probe would block extradition. Issac has told Italian authorities he brought a bag with explosives into the subway on July 21, but has insisted to his interrogators that the attack was meant to grab attention, not injure anyone, according to Sonnessa.
Posted by: Steve || 08/04/2005 09:14 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Home Front: WoT
Authorities arrest MD man on charge of providing support to terrorists
with a connection to the VA paintball jihadi guy in jail
"Mahmoud Brent"?
A Maryland man was charged with conspiracy to help a terrorist organization after he boasted that he went to Pakistan, attended terrorist training camps and agreed to provide whatever assistance was necessary, prosecutors said Thursday. Mahmud Faruq Brent, of Gwynn Oak, Md., was charged after a New York musician arrested on similar charges in May agreed to meet with him and let the FBI record the encounter, according to a joint release by federal prosecutors, the FBI and New York police. Brent was charged in a criminal complaint filed in U.S. District Court in Manhattan with conspiracy to provide material support to the Lashkar-e-Taiba organization, which the United States designated a terrorist organization in December 2001.

During the taped conversation at a hotel in Columbia, Md., Brent indicated he had traveled to Pakistan and into the mountains for training "and stuff" with "the mujahideen, the fighters," the release said. He allegedly said that because of "treaties with Bush," it became dangerous for "foreigners" like him to stay in the camps, so he was moved from place to place. Prosecutors said Brent indicated that he would never go back on his decision to go to the training camps operated by Lashkar and that it was "one of the better decisions in my life." He also said he had agreed to provide whatever "assistance" he could there and expressed hope that Allah would bless him for his efforts, according to the release.

The investigation of Brent began, authorities said, after they found an address book with telephone numbers for him when they arrested Tarik Shah, 42, of New York. Brent was being held in Manhattan and was scheduled to appear in court later Thursday. A telephone call to his lawyer was not immediately returned. Shah pleaded not guilty to terrorism charges on June 28, and defense attorney Anthony Ricco called the case against his client "ridiculous."

Shah, a jazz musician and martial arts instructor, was charged with conspiring to provide material support to al-Qaida after allegedly taking a formal oath of loyalty to the group along with Dr. Rafiq Abdus Sabir, 50, who also was arrested in May. According to prosecutors, the two American citizens had sworn the oath as they conspired to use their skills in martial arts and medicine to aid international terrorism. Sabir also has pleaded not guilty. The government said an undercover FBI agent recorded a conversation before Brent's arrest in which Shah mentioned the names of several students including Brent. The government said Shah told the agent that he planned to call Brent, a longtime student, to ask him to help make a demonstration video to be used for martial arts training of holy warriors.

After his arrest, Shah told investigators that he had trained Brent in martial arts while they lived in Beacon, N.Y., in 2001 and that they often watched martial arts training videos and other videos about holy war, or jihad, in Bosnia, the government said. During this period, the government said, Brent introduced Shah to Seifullah Chapman in the Washington, D.C., area. Chapman, of Alexandria, Va., was sentenced in June 2004 to 85 years in prison after he and two others were convicted of training for holy war against the United States by playing paintball games in the Virginia woods.
Posted by: leader of the pack || 08/04/2005 17:40 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  in June 2004 to 85 years in prison

those marvelous AP fact checkers at work. Wasn't his sentenced reduced to 65 years?
Posted by: 2b || 08/04/2005 18:49 Comments || Top||

#2  I can't understand what would possess someone to go to Pakistan and attend a terrorist training camp.
Posted by: paul || 08/04/2005 20:07 Comments || Top||

#3  I can't understand what would possess someone to go to Pakistan and attend a terrorist training camp.
Posted by: paul || 08/04/2005 20:07 Comments || Top||

#4  Women.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 20:33 Comments || Top||

#5  I'm there...
Posted by: Bill Clinton || 08/04/2005 20:37 Comments || Top||

#6  Time to go back to the early days of America. Strip these guys down to their birthday suits, and have them run a five mile gauntlet down the streets of NY City - with NYC firefighters, policemen, stockbrokers, Iraq & Afghan war veterans, and families of 9-11 victims lining the route, armed with chains, axes, machetes, and baseball bats. Fair deal - if they emerge from the gauntlet breathing, they are free to go.

Scum-sucking bastards. I hope they get a good reception once they reach the penal system. No one ever seems to mentionthe fact atht putting terrrs in Gitmo keeps them from being rippede to shreds in a regular US prison. Condistiosn too harch? Put them into the general prison population at Leavenworth - they boys there need soem entertainment anyway. Let's see how the "Lions of Islam" perform ina US military lock-up. Old Abdul will soon be "pining for the fjords" of Guantanamo.

I never see the bleeding hearts losing sleep over conditions in regular military prisons.
Posted by: Lone Ranger || 08/04/2005 20:45 Comments || Top||


NYCLU sues city over subway searches
EFL: Surprise, Surprise, Surprise!!!
The New York Civil Liberties Union today filed suit against the city to keep police from searching the bags of passengers entering the subway, organization lawyers said. The suit, which filed in U.S. District Court in Manhattan, will claimed that the two-week old policy violates constitutional guarantees of equal protection and prohibitions against unlawful searches and seizures, while doing almost nothing to shield the city from terrorism.
Riddle me this NYCLU: Has there been a terrorist subway attack in New York City in the last two weeks? So how can you say it hasn't been effective?
It argues that the measure also allows the possibility for racial profiling, even though officers are ordered to randomly screen passengers.
Yeah, go right ahead, Achmed.
Not so fast, granny...

"While concerns about terrorism of course justify -- indeed, require -- aggressive police tactics, those concerns cannot justify the Police Department's unprecedented policy of subjecting millions of innocent people to suspicionless searches," states the suit.
Yeah, right. The NYCLU just loves aggressive police tactics. It keeps them in business. And terrorrist dude is innocent too... right up until he pushes that button.
[Among five plaintiffs was Brendan MacWade, 32, of Brooklyn, who escaped the World Trade Center towers after they were struck by hijacked planes on Sept. 11, 2001. "I want to catch terrorists as much as any politicians or officials but this policy does not work," he said. Another plaintiff, Joseph Gehring Jr., who identified himself as a lifelong Republican, said he was disappointed to find subway riders accepting the police inspections so docilely. "Here we were giving up our rights to what was obviously a publicity stunt," he said. "We are becoming accustomed to having our civil liberties taken away."
I'd like a little background on "lifelong Republican" and "WTC survivor" guy. I'm sure I'll find some because I'll be looking.
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 17:18 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "I want to catch terrorists as much as any politicians or officials but this policy does not work," he said.

So go after Middle Eastern men of military age wearing backpacks. Or does that make too much sense?
Posted by: Raj || 08/04/2005 17:37 Comments || Top||

#2  So far, nothing on Open Secrets for Mr. Gehring. I'll post it if I find anything interesting.
Posted by: Raj || 08/04/2005 17:40 Comments || Top||

#3  Looks like Mr. Gehring's a lawyer from New Jersey.
Posted by: Raj || 08/04/2005 17:48 Comments || Top||

#4  MacWade's Will to Live Quotient: -9.9 (apparent)
MacWades's Sanity Quotient:...... -9.9 (apparent)

Gehring's Will to Live Quotient: -5.0 (estimated)
Gehring's Ethical Quotient:...... -9.9 (apparent)

Right to take everyone else down with them: 0
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 18:00 Comments || Top||

#5  You dont *have* to take the subway. You can take a cab, or walk or [attempt to] drive.

it is *your* *choice*!
Posted by: CrazyFool || 08/04/2005 18:19 Comments || Top||

#6  I'm no lawyer, but I suspect that a suit that claims that because the policy "won't work" that it should be declared void isn't going to fly. It's the job of the legislature and executive to decide what works and what doesn't, and to implement the plan. Courts can rule on the constitutionality but (I believe) can't dump something just because someone claims it won't work.
Posted by: Steve White || 08/04/2005 18:37 Comments || Top||

#7  Steve - unfortunately nobody told the Courts that -- specifically activist courts such as the 9th circus court....

Look for some activist judge to rule that the searches are illegal.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 08/04/2005 19:00 Comments || Top||

#8  Am I mistaken or wasn't this already settled in the courts last year? If not the searches make sense to me which is why the ACLU is all over it.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 08/04/2005 19:03 Comments || Top||

#9  If the NYACLU stops searches, and if there is an attack on the NY subway system, they may lose a lot of support amung the most liberal of the libera.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 08/04/2005 19:36 Comments || Top||

#10  The suit, which filed in U.S. District Court in Manhattan, will claimed that the two-week old policy violates constitutional guarantees of equal protection and prohibitions against unlawful searches and seizures, while doing almost nothing to shield the city from terrorism.

Actually, I'd agree...I want to be "equally protected" as the next infidel, so on with the profiling that Raj justifies in #1! If they don't watch it, the NYCLU may well get a judge with a head on his shoulders and see "equal protection" like we do!
Posted by: BA || 08/04/2005 20:15 Comments || Top||

#11  The Subways are run by Corp. A public Corp but still Corp. You ride at their will, no search, no ride. You have no "right to ride" or an expectatation of privacy while doing so. The Subway is property of the Corp and can under the law tell you what is what if you choose to ride it. Don't like it. Call a cab, ride a bile, roller skate or walk.
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom || 08/04/2005 20:20 Comments || Top||

#12  If there is an attack and the ACLU stopped the searchs...every victim and their family should sue the ACLU for BILLIONS.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 08/04/2005 20:24 Comments || Top||

#13  Perhaps New Yorkers will designate a special subway car for ACLU lawyers. No bomb searches will be allowed.
Posted by: ed || 08/04/2005 20:29 Comments || Top||

#14  SPoD: Exactly how does one go about riding a bile? You must've just visited the dried elephant dung terrorist threat in Paris story, eh?
Posted by: BA || 08/04/2005 20:48 Comments || Top||

#15  Well I am sure most ACLU lawyers have tasted one heheheh.
I would rather ridae a Bilke
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom || 08/04/2005 21:04 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Briton held over 452 fake passports
A Briton was arrested at Bangkok airport yesterday with 452 fake blank European passports in his luggage, as he prepared to board a plane to return to the UK.
Ian? Alistair? Susan?
Mahieddine Daikh, an Algerian who became a naturalised Briton two years ago, will probably escape punishment unless there is a formal complaint in the next few days from the government of one of the countries affected, Thai and British authorities told the Guardian yesterday.
Hokay, Bulldog and JFM, get out your pencils ...
Mr Daikh was caught at 1am while in transit from the southern Thai island of Koh Samui to Amsterdam, from where he was scheduled to fly to Glasgow. Officials found about 200 forged passports from France, Belgium, Spain and Portugal in his hand luggage and 250 fakes from the same countries in his checked-in bags, according to an immigration chief, General Suwat Thamrongsisakul. "There were 452 altogether," he said. "He told us he bought the passports from a Pakistani man for £3,000 in Koh Samui and that he would be paid £15,000 when he delivered them to his contact in London. Of course he can't remember the name of the Pakistani."
That would be too much to expect ...
Bet he can't remember the name of his contact in London, either...
A British embassy official who examined the passports was very impressed with their quality, according to Gen Suwat. "He had to look at them very carefully before being certain they were fake," he said. "'Excellent job' is what he told my officers."
Well yeah, the Pakistani fakes are always the best ...
Mr Daikh is currently being held in an immigration detention centre but he could be free by the weekend, because there appears to be no terrorism link to the case.
No, no, certainly not!
"We will not prosecute him unless one of the embassies [of the countries whose passports were forged] files a formal complaint," Gen Suwat said. "We will probably give them a couple of days to do that.
Maybe they should set one of those 2nd deputy undersecretaries to working something up, if he can find the time...
"If they do not, we will revoke his visa and return him [to Britain]." It was unclear last night if any of the countries involved intended to press charges. A Foreign Office spokeswoman admitted Mr Daikh would not be arrested on his return to the UK. "He could not be prosecuted in Britain for this offence," she said. When asked if he would therefore be free, she replied: "That's what is likely to happen."
Here's another problem to fix, Tony ...
Posted by: Steve White || 08/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Unless they bugged his cellphone and will follow him to see where he goes and who he talks to. And check to see if it is against EU regulations for a citizen to wander around with hundreds of passports -- real or fake.
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/04/2005 2:01 Comments || Top||

#2  Possession of 200 forged passports is not a crime? ah, yes, Thailand, where fake luxury watches cost more than fake IDs.

On the other hand, I'm not so sure about fake-passport tolerance in the Western world.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 08/04/2005 4:42 Comments || Top||

#3  JEEZ!!! WHAT IS IT WITH THESE GUYS!

Do they become naturalized and THEN get all jihad-ed? Or did they get religion first?
Posted by: PlanetDan || 08/04/2005 6:51 Comments || Top||

#4  I imagine if he'd had a couple of hundred fake Thai passports, they'd be a little more concerned.
Posted by: mojo || 08/04/2005 9:54 Comments || Top||

#5  Damn deceitful Amish traitors ... oops ... you mean to tell me the "Good Lad" was a muzzie from Algeria?!
Posted by: MunkarKat || 08/04/2005 12:24 Comments || Top||

#6  Koh Samui? What idiot buys forged passports from Pakistanis in Koh Samui? Every knows you should go down to Penang, Malaysia, and just look for that guy with a mustache who hangs out behind.... ah nevermind!
Posted by: Scooter McGruder || 08/04/2005 13:45 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Bolton warns Iran, Syria over Iraqi border
UNITED NATIONS - U.S. Ambassador John Bolton, in his debut in the U.N. Security Council, pressed Syria and Iran on Thursday to do more to stem the flow of terrorists, arms and funding into neighboring Iraq. His comments came as the 15-nation council unanimously adopted a U.S.-drafted resolution condemning a recent surge in violence in Iraq that has killed hundreds, including Algerian diplomats, U.S. Marines and a Sunni Arab helping to draft a new Iraqi constitution. Russia used the vote to criticize the media for glorifying terrorists after Moscow said it would bar ABC News from working in Russia when the U.S. television network aired an interview with Chechen rebel leader Shamil Basayev.

Bolton urged all nations "to meet their obligations to stop the flow of terrorist financing and weapons, and particularly on Iran and Syria."
"We think this is very important, obviously, to help bring stability and security to the people of Iraq and to permit the constitutional process to go forward. It's the highest priority for the people and government of Iraq, and for the United States as well," he said, speaking after the council vote.

Syrian Ambassador Fayssal Mekdad attacked Bolton's statement and similar comments by British Ambassador Emyr Jones Parry, saying they showed "a determined campaign against Syria" by Washington and London.
While Damascus had deployed around 10,000 soldiers and erected more than 300 surveillance towers along its border with Iraq, Britain and the United States had spurned a Syrian plea for assistance including night vision gear, he said. "This help has never come. We would like to ask them, what have they done on the other side of the border? They have done nothing while Syria has taken all measures," Mekdad said.

President Bush installed Bolton as his chief representative to the United Nations on Monday, bypassing Senate confirmation after Democrats stalled the nomination for five months. His vote to approve the resolution on Iraq was his first official act at the world body although he has spent the past few days making the rounds of key diplomats.

While terrorism had struck with deadly effect in Beirut, New York, Madrid, London, Beslan, Bali, Riyadh and elsewhere, "nowhere is it as virulent and persistent as it is in Iraq nowadays," Iraqi Ambassador Samir Sumaidaie told the council, welcoming its adoption of the resolution. Iraq "is bearing the burden for the world and now the world must stand with it," he said.

Russian Deputy U.N. Ambassador Alexander Konuzin used Bolton's presence to remark that while the vote showed the council's resolve against terrorism in Iraq, "we are not under the delusion that, after adoption of this resolution, that terrorist attacks will be brought to an end in Iraq." He also lashed out at the media who "yield to the commercial temptation to popularize bloody bandits who are defiling the memory of those who have died." "We are talking about abuse by ABC which offended many Russians -- showing this interview with a terrorist," he said.
Russia this week banned ABC journalists from talking to officials and will not allow them to renew their media accreditation.
Posted by: Steve || 08/04/2005 14:03 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Warnings, schmarnings...
Posted by: Captain America || 08/04/2005 14:56 Comments || Top||

#2  Boy-howdy he didn't waste any time.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 08/04/2005 14:57 Comments || Top||

#3  Hey Johnny, ask the Syrian ambassador for a DNA sample of Assad. That should get their attention. Keep pressing them with the phrase, its going to be needed real soon[tm].
Posted by: Omiger Snaviting1691 || 08/04/2005 15:23 Comments || Top||

#4  Bush would've checked off this box months ago - in concert with Rice's similar statements, were the Dhimmidonks not such [insert plural expletive here]. Bolton's exactly who we need there, thus he was delayed by the Moonbat Machine.

Whether people like it or not, Bush plays by the rules as they actually exist, must deal with reality, not fantasy, and is doing much more behind the scenes than we know - because we only know what is reported or made public. Even the blogosphere is limited to direct sources, such as CENTCOM web statements, and what slips through the MSM filters or must be fisked out of their agenda pieces to discover the truth. The hard truth is, Bush & Co know what's up and are on the job -- in spite of all of the internal foot-dragging and bogus info from half-insane agencies, limited humint resources from a decade of dumbing-down intel capabilities, outright sedition and sabotage such as the Wilson/Plame dynamic Moonbat duo, the authentic existence of BSD amongst the toolfools, RINO ankle-biting and waffling, self-serving McCain-style subversion, purely partisan Dhimmidonk efforts to derail everything Bush tries to do - because they have no vision or convictions themselves, not to mention the utter anti-America hate forces at work. In many ways, it really is Bush against the world. Amazing what he's been able to accomplish in spite of that disconcerting fact. Syria has been warned, but they won't get it. They never do.
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 15:28 Comments || Top||

#5  So true .com Hey...maybe if we're lucky..Syria will "get it" right between the eyes...
Posted by: Warthog || 08/04/2005 15:38 Comments || Top||

#6  Works for me, WH - but I'd actually rather expend the ordnance on is the MM's and knock the only support they have out from under them first. Syria's a basketcase without MM$, IMHO, and I believe implosion would follow naturally. In fact, I'm looking forward to the synergy of the Kurds in Iraq, Iran, and Syria as events unfold over the next few years. I think there's a very good chance that, when the dust settles and the Turks get out of ICU, Kurdistan will have a port on the Med.
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 15:45 Comments || Top||

#7  They have done nothing while Syria has taken all measures," Mekdad said..
Except lose many of our most valuable resources, our young men and women.
Posted by: plainslow || 08/04/2005 16:03 Comments || Top||

#8  Whee! Have you been saving that up, .com? ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/04/2005 16:22 Comments || Top||

#9  Not sure what you're referring to, tw, lol! I've said what's in both comments before...

To be honest, I'm confused about WTF we're supposed to do here on RB, nowadays. I prefer to try to post original thinking, such as the Kurd thingy above - just looking ahead at potential realities as things might play out, but I'm not sure anymore. Trying to dissuade the IWWIWWIWI* crowd is tiring - and I'm honestly fed up with it. Prolly should revert to nothing but (cleansed) snarkies so as to not offend anyone - or just walking away and working through the resulting DT's. Chart nah ("Maybe next life"), as the Thais say.

* I Want What I Want When I Want It. The war cry of the 3 yr old - often heard here when Bush doesn't keep some poster's personal timetable for whacking 'tards, righting wrongs, etc.
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 16:47 Comments || Top||

#10  That goes in the classics file, .com:

The cry of the IWWIWWIWIs screeching throughout the blogs .....

I agree with you and Pappy and others here over the last couple days.

A) There's stuff going on that hasn't been splashed across the NYT and may never be. But we can put 2 and 2 together and get something more than 1/2 if we look at the dots that are there. Like the simulataneous reports of clashes with MM thugs in multiple parts of Iran at once, including Arab and Kurd areas pushing the Persian MMs hard.

And B) Armchair generalling is an easy sport. Making real decisions in the hot seat within real limitations .... that's harder.
Posted by: leader of the pack || 08/04/2005 17:53 Comments || Top||

#11  Prolly should revert to nothing but (cleansed) snarkies so as to not offend anyone

I know I make it look easy, but don't try it without superior straps.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 19:23 Comments || Top||

#12  It was great hearing the Demos whine about Bolton's recess appointment. If we can just drive those traitorous bastards to the point where they'll all move to Canada, it would save us the trouble of incarcerating or executing them later.
Posted by: mac || 08/04/2005 20:32 Comments || Top||

#13  It's not that you haven't said it before, .com, but there it is -- all at once -- with lots of commas and visual adjectives. :-) I couldn't breath until I got to that final period!

Here, have a nice cup of tea. All the rest of you are invited, too, of course -- or wander over to the sideboard, if you'd like something stronger. (I don't notice any trolls around.)

Perhaps it's time to dig a little deeper in the Arab News, MEMRI and the Iraq Command's daily reports to see if all you clever types can discern what is going on below the surface... and look more closely at what Rantburg's foreign correspondents send in. We're seeing an awful lot of arrests as a result of London's little excitement -- and some of the stories mention that thus-and-such had been watched by the police, or MI-5/6 (I'm sorry, but I can't remember which is the British FBI, and which the CIA), or the Spaniards, or whomever. Fred has an enormous amount of information on individuals and organizations; is it time to start correlating some of it? (You 'll have noticed that I haven't volunteered to do any of this -- my expertise lies as far from this kind of thing as I can get. Sorry.)

Just thinking our loud... this just may be the August silly season, too, when nothing major happens and everybody gets just a little cranky waiting for Autumn to arrive.
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/04/2005 23:19 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
US seizes IRGC IEDs coming into Iraq from Iran
It’s the number one killer of American troops in Iraq: roadside bombs.

The massive roadside bomb that killed 14 Marines Wednesday flipped their 37-ton vehicle on its top and blew it some 40 feet down the road.

Tonight, there’s disturbing information that some of the most sophisticated of these deadly weapons are reportedly coming from Iran.

U.S. military and intelligence officials tell NBC News that American soldiers intercepted a large shipment of high explosives, smuggled into northeastern Iraq from Iran only last week.

The officials say the shipment contained dozens of "shaped charges" manufactured recently. Shaped charges are especially lethal because they’re designed to concentrate and direct a more powerful blast into a small area.

“They’ll go right through a very heavily armored vehicle like an M1-A1 tank from one side right out the other side,” says retired U.S. Army General Barry McCaffrey.

Military officials say there’s only one use for shaped charges — to kill American forces — and insurgents started using them in Iraq with deadly effectiveness three months ago.

Intelligence officials believe the high-explosives were shipped into Iraq by the Iranian Revolutionary guard or the terrorist group Hezbollah, but are convinced it could not have happened without the full consent of the Iranian government.

And Thursday, Defense Secretary Rumsfeld accused Iran of attempting to derail the democratic process in Iraq.

Iran’s Shiite government has also struck up a seemingly strange alliance with Sunni insurgents to try to drive the American military out of Iraq.

"They are desperate to get us out of Iraq” says Michael Ledeen, author of "The War Against the Terror Masters" and resident scholar in the Freedom Chair at the American Enterprise Institute. “If we succeed in Iraq they will be surrounded by elected governments.”

Military officials acknowledge that these explosives are only the tip of the iceberg... and predict the deadly bombings in Iraq are far from over.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 08/04/2005 20:18 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I saw the NBC video of one crate filled with the mines: olive drab, high quality, factory-made munitions professionaly packed. I didn't see an instruction manual (but if there was one, it was probably in Farsi anyway).
Posted by: mrp || 08/04/2005 20:23 Comments || Top||

#2  This calls for some serious tit-for-tat against the RGs. A small explosion in one of their barracks, killing several hundred, would seem appropriate.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 08/04/2005 20:33 Comments || Top||

#3  So it's wasn't a 500 lb. bomb?
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 20:36 Comments || Top||

#4  Good grief, the mullahs are looking for a fight. I truly thought they were mentally off their rockers, but with the internal goings-on in Iran lately and now this, we better be aquiring target coordinates and quick. Sure hope Bolton is ready to whip this out in the Gen. Assembly there at Turtle bay.
Posted by: BA || 08/04/2005 20:51 Comments || Top||

#5  This seems like prima facie evidence justifying the immediatedestruvtion of all munitions manufacturing and storage sites in Iran. All of them. Give Iran two hours to evacuate people, and rthen obliterate the Iranian arms manufacturing and storage infrastructure. Let the world seethe. Let the bleeding hearts wail. What are they going to do - seize our Embassy?

Payback, 26 years and counting. Damage to "innocents"? Edmund Burke had it right -“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” Simple toleration of Iranian evil (including electing a terr as head of government) puts all Iranins in the crosshairs, as far as I am concerned.

Equal time for a historical quoate from an American: "There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." Henry David Thoreau.

Iran and Saudi Arabia are two malignant roots that need some serious chopping. Maybe we should just nickname them "fission target" and "fusion target" - or "aiming points #1 and 32".

Bomb's away!!!!!

Posted by: Lone Ranger || 08/04/2005 20:56 Comments || Top||

#6  not being piknikkerty, but what language was the manual translalated from? And, I mean translalated.
Posted by: rhodesiafever || 08/04/2005 21:01 Comments || Top||

#7  Send the bombs back to Iran via airmail.
Posted by: mmurray821 || 08/04/2005 21:26 Comments || Top||

#8  When?
Posted by: SR-71 || 08/04/2005 21:27 Comments || Top||

#9  By the modern rules of warfare, this entitles us to attack with an increase of one escalator. I know it sounds like a damn board game, but it is how the major players operate in the real world. We literally *have* to do something, but it has to be a measured response. One of their ships might sink. A terrible high-rise fire may kill a few hundred. A dam might break. Something like that.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 08/04/2005 21:41 Comments || Top||

#10  Time to fire up the Tomahawks.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 08/04/2005 21:46 Comments || Top||

#11  Electrical infrastructure is very vulnerable.

And the Eastern border is wide open from the Afghanistan side.
Posted by: OldSpook || 08/04/2005 22:01 Comments || Top||

#12  I like the idea of the electrical infrastructure. As in all of it. Take out every power plant in the country and bomb every attempt at repair. Let the Iranian people choose whether or not they like the 7th century.
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats || 08/04/2005 22:26 Comments || Top||

#13  cyclotrons and such don't run well without electric power.
Posted by: 3dc || 08/04/2005 22:36 Comments || Top||

#14  The appropriate response here is to publicly announce that we will interfere with Iran's internal affairs, if they refuse to cease interfering in Iran. Simply return the favor.
Posted by: Rafael || 08/04/2005 22:55 Comments || Top||

#15  ..in Iraq, that is.
Posted by: Rafael || 08/04/2005 22:56 Comments || Top||

#16  Has anyone seen Mugniyeh lately? Hariri's motorcade had a big sophistacated boom despite countermeasures and his MO is big explosions. My gut says he's one of the tentacles of Al Qaeda. Dan, you are very informative and apparently have access to lots of information. I read an old posting of yours regarding Mugniyeh in Thugburg and got chills. His association with Hamas, Hezbollah, and time spent in Brazil and other South American drug contacts brought to mind the report of Bin Laden meeting with Colombian drug lords to poison the coke. The neighborhood some of the London bombers lived in was noted as having Caribbean blacks and of course, the Brazilian shot in the subway lived in the same complex. These are a lot of potential bad guys that can easily travel as tourists very close to home. Besides having some hotbed ME communities in Brazil, Argentina, and Paraguay, the Carribbean's main money maker after tourism is off-shore banking, incidentally where Khan and the BCCI investors that financed Pakistan's nuclear program shuttled their funds. Besides the money laundering and casinos that connect terrorists to the cartels and mafia, we have Aristide, Chavez, Castro, and no end of corrupt smugglers in the immediate area. Al Qaeda was picked up in La Paz, Mexico, a resort area, as wll as rumors of them elsewhere and connected to MS-13. There is a significant Palestinian population in the Virgin Islands, but the area is a hub for tourists from all over. It would make a convenient staging area. Factor in a three incidents of stolen boats or missing couples reported this week (boat stolen in Texas washes ashore with dead man near Cancun, couple missing in Pacific off coast of Mexico, and couple missing from Costa Rica), the 40 missing Americans from Nuevo Laredo, and I'd say there is plenty of suspicious activity south of the border. We have a LOT of coastline. The Coast Guard is in need of help...maybe they should train the commercial fishermen to be a merchant watch, much like the over-the-road truckers and border volunteers. I just feel like all out war has been declared with Zawahiri's tape and hope we aren't blind-sided because Islamists and and the black market seem incongruous to some analysts.
Posted by: Danielle || 08/04/2005 23:15 Comments || Top||

#17  I would think we would say nothing, and do something. Iran has a long standing debt to repay with the U.S.M.C. they just added to that if they and the Revolutionary Guards can be traced to the shipment of shaped charges. This was no small device. My son in law the former Marine Captain says it had to be big to toss that vehicle like it did. Pay back is over due.
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom || 08/04/2005 23:19 Comments || Top||

#18  We have a problem here if we attempt to explode an atomic bomb here. ( ACLU and all).
Would we have that same problem in Iran? Save us a lot of cleanup..
Posted by: plainslow || 08/04/2005 23:33 Comments || Top||

#19  Great post, Danielle. I had no idea about the Palestinian outpost and the Americans that have recently gone missing. Can you give us some references/articles? Thanks so much!
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/04/2005 23:58 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine
Kahanist opens fire, kills 4 Israeli Arabs
Note that the crowd put him down and then imagine what would happen had he been a Paleo doing the same thing to Jews in the West Bank or Gaza.
A Jewish extremist wearing an army uniform opened fire inside a bus Thursday, killing four Israeli Arabs and wounding 13 in the deadliest attack on Arabs in Israel since 1990. An angry crowd then killed the gunman.

Prime Minister Ariel Sharon condemned the shootings as "a despicable act by a bloodthirsty terrorist."

Security officials have warned that Jewish militants, desperate to sabotage Israel's upcoming pullout from Gaza Strip and parts of the West Bank, might attack Arabs to deflect forces away from the Gaza withdrawal. "This cannot be disconnected from the pullout," retired army Gen. Yom-Tov Samia told Israel TV.

Israel TV identified the gunman as Eden Tsuberi, 19, from the settlement of Tapuah in the West Bank.

The attack took place in the Arab town of Shfaram in northern Israel, where a bearded gunman boarded the No. 165 bus and opened fire. Police said the gunman wore a skullcap, identifying him as an Orthodox Jew.

The windows of the bus were shattered, and blood stained some of the seats. Two hours after the shooting, police with white plastic gloves fingerprinted a body on the floor, apparently that of the assailant.

A policeman with a bullhorn stood near the body and addressed a crowd of thousands at the scene.

Mohammed Barakeh, an Arab member of parliament, told Channel 10 from the scene that the dead were Arabs. "The victims are all residents of Shfaram, and today this town is mourning," he said.

Israeli Public Security Minister Gideon Ezra called it a "terrible terror attack" and appealed for calm. The police commissioner, Moshe Karadi, said the killing could lead to further violence. Jewish settler leaders condemned the attack.

Tapuah is one of the most extreme Jewish settlements, dominated by followers of U.S.-born Rabbi Meir Kahane, who believed in expelling Arabs from Israel and the West Bank. Kahane was assassinated in New York in 1990.

Israel TV said Tsuberi was an army deserter who grew up in the Israeli city of Rishon Letzion and recently moved to the settlement.

However, a statement from the settlers' council said the gunman did not live in Tapuah.

Israeli Arab members of parliament called the shooting a "terror attack" by Jewish extremists.

On Thursday, opponents of Israel's withdrawal ended their second mass protest after police blocked their plan to march into the Gaza Strip to reinforce the settlements.

A few hundred protesters stayed in the town of Ofakim, including settlers' council head Bentsi Lieberman, who denounced the shooting.

"Murder is murder is murder, and there can be no other response but to denounce it completely and express revulsion," he said.

Police said Thursday they had detained 441 people trying to sneak into the Jewish settlements in Gaza, which have been sealed off.

In Gaza City, meanwhile, about 10,000 Palestinians hoisting Palestinian flags and dancing in the streets, rallied at the parliament building Thursday to celebrate the withdrawal scheduled to begin Aug. 15. Dozens of gunmen fired in the air in celebration.

"After 38 years of ugly occupation, they are leaving and they will never come back," Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia told the crowd.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 08/04/2005 15:26 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Got his ass.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 15:39 Comments || Top||

#2  Scum.
Posted by: MunkarKat || 08/04/2005 15:41 Comments || Top||

#3  Looks like nobody's got the monopoly on lunatics...
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 15:45 Comments || Top||

#4  Another reason I turned my back on religion. Asstards like this abound, it's not a sectarian thing, the crazys, zealots and people who want to control everything abound. I have yet to meet an Agnostic who acts like this. Enjoy your own personal hell you weak asstard.
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom || 08/04/2005 15:58 Comments || Top||

#5  He got what he deserved. What a pity he killed people before getting it.

Still, this leaves the terr. nutjob count at, oh, 3:30,000?
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 16:07 Comments || Top||

#6  Prime Minister Ariel Sharon condemned the shootings as "a despicable act by a bloodthirsty terrorist."

'nuff said.
Posted by: Red Dog || 08/04/2005 16:08 Comments || Top||

#7  This bastard got we he deserved.

But Kahanism is NOT mainstream Judaism. Even LESS than Salafism is mainstream Islam.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 08/04/2005 16:14 Comments || Top||

#8  1. this probably greatly weakens the anti disengagement forces -- they will less likely to draw big crowds since some people will be embarrassed to be seen with the Kahanists

2. the settlement of Talpuah is widely known in Israel as a village of kooks; the rabbis there are probably guilty of inciting this crime and if witnesses can be procured they will probably be tried; if witnesses can't be procured, Tsuberi's house is going to be bulldozed; if I was the Israeli govt. I would bulldoze the whole settlement and arrest the rabbis on suspicision of incitement and I'd do it quick before the settlement's lawyers can file the Israeli equivalent of a restraining order.
Posted by: mhw || 08/04/2005 16:16 Comments || Top||

#9  I'm glad the bus riders got him -- such people don't deserve to live. And an Army deserter... Damn!
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/04/2005 16:19 Comments || Top||

#10  The bulldozers and tanks should already be there at work leveling this scums home.
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom || 08/04/2005 16:39 Comments || Top||

#11  I have yet to meet an Agnostic who acts like this

He recently turned to religion. Sounds like he was a nutcase first, simply looking to believe in something. And as far as agnostic nutcases, we could spend all day filling out a list.
Posted by: Doolittle || 08/04/2005 16:54 Comments || Top||

#12  I'm with SPoD, though I'm more of an apathist than an agnostic. I don't know and I don't care.
Posted by: Graviling Juth5966 || 08/04/2005 17:49 Comments || Top||

#13  A Jewish extremist wearing an army uniform opened fire inside a bus Thursday, killing four Israeli Arabs and wounding 13 in the deadliest attack on Arabs in Israel since 1990. An angry crowd then killed the gunman.

Stark contrast compared to Paleo actions/responses.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 08/04/2005 18:15 Comments || Top||

#14  Glad that he's dead.

The last deadly Arab attack on Jews was 10 days ago. The last deadly Jewish attack on Arabs, prior to this, was eleven years ago.
Posted by: Colt || 08/04/2005 18:17 Comments || Top||

#15  I have yet to meet an Agnostic who acts like this.

I've yet to meet anyone who acts like this, but that's beside the point. The list of non-religious mass-murderers is pretty damn long.
Posted by: Colt || 08/04/2005 18:19 Comments || Top||

#16  An angry crowd then killed the gunman.

If the attack took place in an Arab town, I assume the angry crowd was made up of Arabs.
Posted by: Paul Moloney || 08/04/2005 18:52 Comments || Top||

#17  I just find it interesting how much coverage this piece is getting....vs the amount of coverage paleo attacks on Jews gets.
Posted by: PlanetDan || 08/04/2005 20:03 Comments || Top||

#18  Two wrongs don't make a right, but it's certainly germane to observe that the Arabs who started this mass-murdering crap shouldn't be surprised that somebody on the other side finally decided that the tables deserved to be turned. I'm actually rather surprised there haven't been more of these kinds of attacks. The Paleos most assuredly merit them.
Posted by: mac || 08/04/2005 20:38 Comments || Top||

#19  93rd Volunteer Infantry, reporting for duty!
Posted by: Mike || 08/04/2005 21:05 Comments || Top||

#20  NPR reported this a.m. that Tsuberi's parents informed the IDF right after he called them to say he'd deserted, because he didn't want to help evict the Gaza settlers. The IDF didn't pick him up and take away his weapon in time.

Is Tapuah where the rabbis recited the death curse against Ariel Sharon? The last time they did such a thing, they got Rabin murdered. Vicious fools who think they're being clever!
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/04/2005 22:58 Comments || Top||


Al-Qaeda announces the formation of Gaza affiliate
One of Al-Qaida's official Web sites has announced the establishment of a regular military wing in the Gaza Strip.

A declaration posted in the past few days on an Islamist site considered a mouthpiece for Abu Musab al-Zarkawi, Osama Bin Laden's right-hand man in Iraq, claimed that the wing, "The Jihad Brigades in the Promised Land," had in the past few days carried out its first attacks by firing mortar shells and new Sajil rockets from the vicinity of Khan Yunis toward Gaza Strip settlements, among them Neveh Dekalim and Ganei Tal.

"The Brigades are not a new organization but merely a spirit of faith pushing the jihad fighters in the promised land to close ranks behind an honest and uncompromising leadership," the posting read.

The Israel Defense Forces were extremely skeptical Wednesday of the online posting, which was deemed unreliable, noting the choice of operation documented - mortar shelling - is not within the scope of Al-Qaida interests.

However, the announcement may refer to a local Islamic organization in the Gaza Strip with some loose affiliation to global jihadist activity.

There is evidence that in recent months several armed factions have been active in the Gaza Strip that do not recognize the truce: members of the Popular Resistance Committees, which are considered Fatah's wing in the center and south of the Strip, along with parts of Hamas that disagree with the group's entry into Palestinian politics.

Palestinian Authority sources say these groups are operating independently under the auspices of "foreign Islamic elements," engaging in the familiar activity of firing at Gaza Strip settlements and into Israel.

There has been a clear escalation recently in the religious pronouncements by Jamal Abu Samhadana's PRC, which in recent months has refused to acknowledge the truce. The organization's flyers have begun adopting Al-Qaida terminology, including pronouncing senior PA officials "heathens."

The PRC, which was founded at the start of the intifada as an additional Fatah arm comprised of members of the Palestinian security services and which began operating as a militia under the aegis of the Abu Samhadana clan, was apparently responsible for the assault on the convoy of American diplomats near the Erez checkpoint at the end of 2003, in which at least two of the convoy's security guards were killed. In the past, several - mostly unknown - groups in the Gaza Strip had claimed affiliation to Al-Qaida. They went by various names, one being Jundallah, but they quickly disappeared.

By contrast, the recent posting is accompanied by other hallmarks, such as a videotape documenting the firing, in keeping with Al-Qaida's conduct in Iraq.

Most Palestinian organizations, including Hamas and Islamic Jihad, publicly disavow Al-Qaida activity and Palestinian security officials also emphasize they will not permit Al- Qaida-linked groups to operate in the territories.

All of the organizations have reaffirmed in recent days their commitment to halting fire in the Gaza Strip until the Israeli pullout is complete, but it is possible that small groups, particularly the PRC, will try to violate the cease-fire.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 08/04/2005 14:59 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Affiliate of Binny's Band in Gaza?

My-oh-my...


Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 18:38 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
5 Pakistanis killed by landmine blast
At least five Pakistani troops were killed and two others injured in a landmine blast in the country's North Waziristan tribal region, military sources said. An army vehicle was hit by a roadside land mine at Data Khel village, some 20 kilometers southwest of Miran Shah, the headquarters of North Waziristan, close to Afghan border, the sources said. The incident took place at 2:30 p.m local time when a military vehicle was passing the area and an improvised explosive device was used in the attack. One of the injured is in critical condition, local correspondents said.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 08/04/2005 14:56 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Blowback.
All those years of ISI instruction on IEDs is coming back to haunt the Pak Army.
Posted by: john || 08/04/2005 15:08 Comments || Top||


American killed in Afghan blast
An explosion near the Afghanistan-Pakistan border on Thursday killed an unidentified U.S. service member and injured another, according to a military statement. The blast -- thought to be from a homemade bomb -- occurred as troops were traveling in a "high-mobility multipurpose wheeled vehicle" in Paktika province near Orgun-e, said the statement, released by the Coalition Press Information Center in Kabul. The blast also injured a soldier with the Afghan National Army, the statement said. Both wounded troops were treated and were reported in stable condition, the statement said.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 08/04/2005 14:52 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Africa: Horn
Sudanese festivities kill 130
Clashes between southern and northern Sudanese continued for a third day in Sudan's capital, Khartoum. Ethnic and sectarian violence in the capital and elsewhere in the country erupted following the death of Sudan's vice president, John Garang, and so far has claimed more than 130 lives. Sudanese Arabs are leaving the southern Sudanese town of Juba, days before John Garang is to be buried there. The mood in Juba, a government stronghold in the south of Sudan, is tense. Gunfire could be heard at night in the town as heavily armed police and Sudanese army troops patrolled the deserted roads.

Southern Sudanese, who suspect foul play in the death of Mr. Garang in a helicopter crash over the weekend, went on a rampage, burning Arab-owned shops and attacking anyone looking like an ethnic Arab. At least 13 people were killed in Juba, according to the Sudanese Red Crescent. The intense bloodletting that has followed Mr. Garang's death echoes the ethnic and religious disputes that fueled Sudan's 21-year civil war between the predominantly Christian south and the mostly Arab Muslim north.

In Malakal, in the country's southeast, riots have disrupted life since Monday, and at least six people were reportedly killed. In Khartoum, the epicenter of the violence, street violence has left at least 110 people dead and more than 200 injured. Alfred Taban is the publisher of the Khartoum Monitor, Sudan's only independent English-language newspaper. He says troops of the Sudan People's Liberation Army, the SPLA, are amassing in Juba to protect the large number of southern Sudanese expected in the city. "Yes, there is a worry that there could be trouble," he said. "And I think that is why the SPLA is sending a large contingent of its troops to Juba, to ensure that the process, the burial process, goes on well. Of course, the northern troops are still there. There are literally thousands of them there. They have not yet moved. And this indeed is a great worry to many southern Sudanese and northern Sudanese as well."

In separate statements Wednesday, Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir and Mr. Garang's successor, Salva Kiir Mayardit, appealed for calm. Mr. al-Bashir as well as other world leaders are expected to attend Mr. Garang's funeral in Juba. The United States has sent two senior envoys to Juba in a bid to keep the country's fragile peace from unraveling.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 08/04/2005 14:44 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Arabs/Muslims killing again cause we're in Iraq right.....
Posted by: MACOFROMOC || 08/04/2005 15:03 Comments || Top||

#2  No MAC the Root cause is the Reagan budget cuts. Don't you get the newsletter?
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 15:20 Comments || Top||

#3  maybe it'll spread the whole waste of a continent and they will kill each other off
Posted by: Thraing Hupoluper1864 || 08/04/2005 16:09 Comments || Top||

#4 
WOT: Wouldn't it be wiser to arm and train up the Christian side Thraing Hupoluper1864?
Posted by: Red Dog || 08/04/2005 16:33 Comments || Top||

#5  well since the christian side is a very little minority then no i it wouldn't be wise. Just give them a few more years and they'll each other off if we stop sending aid. Between spreading AIDS and fighting they have nothing better too do evidently.
Posted by: Thraing Hupoluper1864 || 08/04/2005 17:14 Comments || Top||

#6  The language and thinking of your commentators is of the worst I have ever read. As A Sudanese and an African I feel great offense. Grow up you fools and try to understand the gravity of possible Civil War. It seems that British Civil War and the American Civil War donot feature in your simple minds. The late Colonel John Garang would have greatly disappointed that fellow Christians harbour such contemptuous thought.
Posted by: Javique Grorong8527 || 08/04/2005 19:00 Comments || Top||

#7  After that South America! You with me Thraing! Let's Roll!
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 19:08 Comments || Top||

#8  Actually what JG just said, way better than my poor sarcasm.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 19:10 Comments || Top||

#9  Re #6: Well said!
Posted by: borgboy || 08/04/2005 20:00 Comments || Top||

#10  The language and thinking of your commentators is of the worst I have ever read.

I blame it on the free use of computers at the public library and the cheap PCs they hand out with AOL subscriptions.
Posted by: Pappy || 08/04/2005 21:29 Comments || Top||

#11  I can certainly empathise with JG's comment at #6, since war generally sucks and the Rantberg Motto is "Civilized, Well-reasoned Discourse"

However, at first glance, the Sudan situation looks like business as usual in Africa: tribal feuds, ethnic hatreds and the settling of old scores.

The Americal Civil War has been described as "two mobs chasing each other around the country", but there was a point and purpose to it other than just killing people - the question of whether the Union would survive.

Perhaps someone who has been following Sudan more closely can explain it, assuming there is more to it. I have a hard time keeping track of who is killing whom and why around around the world.
Posted by: SteveS || 08/04/2005 22:50 Comments || Top||

#12  The language and thinking of your commentators is of the worst I have ever read. As A Sudanese and an African I feel great offense. Grow up you fools and try to understand the gravity of possible Civil War.

Lump my #4 question in... did ya Javique Grorong8527.


It seems that British Civil War and the American Civil War donot feature in your simple minds.


Lump me in that declaration, did ya Javique Grorong8527?

Assuming for a moment that you are Sudanese Javique Grorong8527, why not enlighten us with your direct experience and insights, putting context [historical] to the current events in Sudan?

/instead of wagging the finger.
Posted by: Red Dog || 08/04/2005 23:06 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks & Islam
Text of Excerpts of Al-Zahawri Video Aired by Al-Jazeera
A text of excerpts from a new videotape released by al-Qaida's No. 2 leader Ayman al-Zawahri. This is an Associated Press translation from the Arabic of three portions of the video that were broadcast on the Arab television station Al-Jazeera. The station said the entire video was five minutes long.
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As for the English people, I tell them that (Prime Minister Tony) Blair has brought to you destruction in central London, and he will bring more of that, God willing. Nations of the crusader alliance, we asked that you get your hands off the Muslims, and we and the lion of Islam, the fighter Sheik Osama bin Laden, God preserves him, offered you a truce to withdraw from the house of Islam.

Hasn't Sheik Osama bin Laden told you that you will not dream of security before we live it as a reality in Palestine and before all the infidel armies withdraw from the land of Muhammad, peace be upon him? But you spilled blood like rivers in our countries, so we exploded the volcanoes of wrath in your countries.

Our message is clear, obvious and decisive: There is no escape for you unless you withdraw from our land, unless you stop stealing our oil and wealth and stop supporting the corrupt rulers.

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What you have seen in New York and Washington, you Americans, and the losses you see in Afghanistan and Iraq - despite the media blackout- are merely the losses from the initial clashes. If you go on with the same policy of aggression against Muslims, you will see, God willing, what will make you forget the horrible things in Vietnam.

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The fact that (President) Bush, (Secretary of State Condoleezza) Rice and (Defense Secretary Donald H.) Rumsfeld are hiding is that there is no exit from Iraq except in immediate withdrawal. Any delay in taking that decision means nothing but more dead, more losses. If you don't leave today, certainly you will leave tomorrow, but after tens of thousands of dead and double the number of disabled and wounded.

The same propaganda and lies that they circulated about Vietnam are being repeated today in Iraq. They told you that they would give the Vietnamese control over their own affairs and that they were defending freedom in Vietnam.
Have at it, folks
Posted by: Steve || 08/04/2005 14:24 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Clearly he gets sat TV. BBC, MSMBC, CBS, and ABC are all referenced in his hodgepodge rant.

In my time, a student turning in drivel like this would have gotten an F for plagerism..

I also love the production value; old toothless man (who would get coins dropped in his cup in my town) squatting next to some non-descript rocks with a rusty rifle posed behind him (to show he's serious), wagging his finger at us...

I always feel better when I hear from "#2" or even better yet "#1"... They make me laugh.
Posted by: Francis || 08/04/2005 15:02 Comments || Top||

#2  The fact that (President) Bush, (Secretary of State Condoleezza) Rice and (Defense Secretary Donald H.) Rumsfeld are hiding is that there is no exit from Iraq except in immediate withdrawal. Any delay in taking that decision means nothing but more dead, more losses. If you don't leave today, certainly you will leave tomorrow, but after tens of thousands of dead and double the number of disabled and wounded.

Since those dead and wounded numbers apply to Jihadists I can live with it.

The same propaganda and lies that they circulated about Vietnam are being repeated today in Iraq. They told you that they would give the Vietnamese control over their own affairs and that they were defending freedom in Vietnam.

Looks like we found the source of the Rathergate memo. At least its clear he's reading the liberal talking points.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 08/04/2005 15:07 Comments || Top||

#3  The fact that (President) Bush, (Secretary of State Condoleezza) Rice and (Defense Secretary Donald H.) Rumsfeld are hiding

Huh? They make public appearances just about every day.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 15:09 Comments || Top||

#4  Speaking of hiding, anybody know if Groundhog Man saw his shadow when he crawled out of his cave to spout this shit? Could be a brutal winter in Waziristan...
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 16:34 Comments || Top||

#5  Our message is clear, obvious and decisive: There is no escape for you unless you ...

I just found where this guy is taking his cues from :

Zahawri's Inspiration
Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 18:32 Comments || Top||

#6  actually, memri.org says this is what he says:

"Oh Americans, what you have seen in New York and Washington, and the casualties you witness in Afghanistan and in Iraq, despite all the media blackout, are nothing but the casualties of the initial clashes. If you continue the same policy of aggression against the Muslims, you will see, Allah willing, horrors that will make you forget what you saw in Afghanistan... I mean, in Vietnam.
Posted by: PlanetDan || 08/04/2005 20:08 Comments || Top||


Moderator Note
I deleted the post on RU-486. No complaints against anyone specifically, but it's problematic for Rantburg:

1) it really has nothing to do with the WoT

2) we'll get all the pro-abortion and anti-abortion crazies coming here. Think of Boris only less willing to compromise.

Remember, the 'Burg is for the WoT, politix, economics and tech stuff related to that, and the usual weird animal stories. Thanks.
Posted by: Steve White || 08/04/2005 14:09 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What about RU-469?
Posted by: BH || 08/04/2005 14:18 Comments || Top||

#2 

Its got my vote and support
Posted by: Cheaderhead || 08/04/2005 14:20 Comments || Top||

#3  Let us not forget Illudium Q36.
Posted by: Steve || 08/04/2005 14:23 Comments || Top||

#4  Thanks for the discretion exercised.
Posted by: MunkarKat || 08/04/2005 14:28 Comments || Top||

#5  Let us talk about U-238 instead.
Posted by: mmurray821 || 08/04/2005 15:01 Comments || Top||

#6  Think of Boris only less willing to compromise.
Speaking of RU-486.......
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 15:18 Comments || Top||

#7  aborted the ru486 article? Poor thing wasn't wanted.
Posted by: 2b || 08/04/2005 15:49 Comments || Top||

#8  I remember when they were boycotting Intel over the RU-486 chip.
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 08/04/2005 19:33 Comments || Top||

#9  I'd rather concentrate on U-235. That's a much more dangerous "morning after". Unfortunately, too many nutjobs see it as an "equalizer". All it "equalizes" is destruction.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 08/04/2005 19:46 Comments || Top||

#10  I'm as vigorous a pro-lifer as they come, so I would count as one of those "anti-abortion crazies" that would stoke the fires by refusing to act like a crazy.

However, I'm too enamored with the idea of arguing my points using proper logic to hypocritically break the rules of a board like Rantburg by submitting off-topic posts. Thus, although my curiosity is piqued, I understand Steve's motivations, and applaud the tone and content of this note.
Posted by: Ptah || 08/04/2005 21:41 Comments || Top||

#11  Good move.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 08/04/2005 21:46 Comments || Top||

#12  But we can post about the Ru-Pentium still, right?
(I won't repeat the joke since everyone's heard it.)
Posted by: Jackal || 08/04/2005 23:01 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Switched off in Basra (Steven Vincent's final posting)
The British approach appears to be to train the Shiite equivalent of Saddam's Baath Party death squads until it's time to leave. We hear about shootings of Iraqi forces by American troops every so often. We don't really hear about similar engagements with British troops. I wonder if GI's are taking care of murderous Shiite thugs in an under-the-table fashion.
The British call it being "switched on" - a state of high morale and readiness, similar to what Americans think of as "gung ho" attitude. During the 10 days I recently spent embedded with the British-led multinational force in this southern Iraqi city, I met many switched-on soldiers involved in what the British call "security sector reform." An effort to maintain peace while training Iraqis to handle their own policing and security, security sector reform is fundamental to the British-American exit strategy. As one British officer put it, "The sooner the locals assume their own security, the sooner we go home."

From this perspective, the strategy appears successful. Particularly in terms of the city police officers, who are proving adept at the close-order drills, marksmanship and proper arrest techniques being drilled into them by their foreign instructors. In addition, police salaries are up, the officers have shiny new patrol cars, and many sport snazzy new uniforms. Better yet, many of these new Iraqi officers seem switched-on themselves. "We want to serve our country" is a repeated refrain.

From another view, however, security sector reform is failing the very people it is intended to serve: average Iraqis who simply want to go about their lives. As has been widely reported of late, Basran politics (and everyday life) is increasingly coming under the control of Shiite religious groups, from the relatively mainstream Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq to the bellicose followers of the rebel cleric Moktada al-Sadr. Recruited from the same population of undereducated, underemployed men who swell these organizations' ranks, many of Basra's rank-and-file police officers maintain dual loyalties to mosque and state.

In May, the city's police chief told a British newspaper that half of his 7,000-man force was affiliated with religious parties. This may have been an optimistic estimate: one young Iraqi officer told me that "75 percent of the policemen I know are with Moktada al-Sadr - he is a great man." And unfortunately, the British seem unable or unwilling to do anything about it.

The fact that the British are in effect strengthening the hand of Shiite organizations is not lost on Basra's residents.

"No one trusts the police," one Iraqi journalist told me. "If our new ayatollahs snap their fingers, thousands of police will jump." Mufeed al-Mushashaee, the leader of a liberal political organization called the Shabanea Rebellion, told me that he felt that "the entire force should be dissolved and replaced with people educated in human rights and democracy."

Unfortunately, this is precisely what the British aren't doing. Fearing to appear like colonial occupiers, they avoid any hint of ideological indoctrination: in my time with them, not once did I see an instructor explain such basics of democracy as the politically neutral role of the police in a civil society. Nor did I see anyone question the alarming number of religious posters on the walls of Basran police stations. When I asked British troops if the security sector reform strategy included measures to encourage cadets to identify with the national government rather than their neighborhood mosque, I received polite shrugs: not our job, mate.

The results are apparent. At the city's university, for example, self-appointed monitors patrol the campuses, ensuring that women's attire and makeup are properly Islamic. "I'd like to throw them off the grounds, but who will do it?" a university administrator asked me. "Most of our police belong to the same religious parties as the monitors."

Similarly, the director of Basra's maternity hospital, Mohammad Nasir, told me that he frequently catches staff members pilfering equipment to sell to private hospitals, but hesitates to call the police: "How do I know what religious party they are affiliated with, and what their political connection is to the thieves?"

It is particularly troubling that sectarian tensions are increasing in Basra, which has long been held up as the brightest spot of the liberated Iraq. "Are the police being used for political purposes?" asked Jamal Khazal Makki, the head of the Basra branch of the Sunni-dominated Islamic Party. "They arrest people and hold them in custody, even though the courts order them released. Meanwhile, the police rarely detain anyone who belongs to a Shiite religious party."

An Iraqi police lieutenant, who for obvious reasons asked to remain anonymous, confirmed to me the widespread rumors that a few police officers are perpetrating many of the hundreds of assassinations - mostly of former Baath Party members - that take place in Basra each month. He told me that there is even a sort of "death car": a white Toyota Mark II that glides through the city streets, carrying off-duty police officers in the pay of extremist religious groups to their next assignment.

Meanwhile, the British stand above the growing turmoil, refusing to challenge the Islamists' claim on the hearts and minds of police officers. This detachment angers many Basrans. "The British know what's happening but they are asleep, pretending they can simply establish security and leave behind democracy," said the police lieutenant who had told me of the assassinations. "Before such a government takes root here, we must experience a transformation of our minds."

In other words, real security reform requires psychological as well as physical training. Unless the British include in their security sector reform strategy some basic lessons in democratic principles, Basra risks falling further under the sway of Islamic extremists and their Western-trained police enforcers.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 08/04/2005 12:39 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The US dealt above the table - they shot them wholesale in Sadr city until they cried uncle.
Posted by: buwaya || 08/04/2005 14:08 Comments || Top||

#2  The US did NOT deal with with them at all. They stopped before they killed Tater and his controllers. They had two chances to do the right thing and they let themselves be talked out of it each time. It's like not getting Saddam in the first GW. We'll have to go back in in a few years to prevent Tater from turning southern Iraq over to the Mad Mullahs.
Posted by: Angoluper Jomogum9513 || 08/04/2005 14:15 Comments || Top||

#3  buwaya: The US dealt above the table - they shot them wholesale in Sadr city until they cried uncle.

That makes a lot of sense. GI's may have prevented Sadr from doing certain things and Sadr attacked them for it. This could be why British troops are not being attacked by Shiite thugs - why attack the people who are letting you kill Iraqi civilians at will, and are training you to get better at it?
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 08/04/2005 15:02 Comments || Top||

#4  That or Sistani's got the whip hand in Basara and is keeping the peace British help.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 20:38 Comments || Top||


Jordan uncovers Zarq's boys planning to attack US military on break in Majik Kingdom
AMMAN (Reuters) - Jordan has arrested 17 militants linked to the al Qaeda network in Iraq and an affiliated Saudi group who were plotting to attack U.S. military personnel in the kingdom, security sources said on Thursday. They said interrogations of the suspects revealed that six of them had ties to Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, head of the al Qaeda network in Iraq, while the others belonged to an underground Saudi group known as the Brigades of the Holy Shrines. "They were planning attacks on foreign officers in the kingdom," said one security source, referring to a plot to attack U.S. military personnel who frequent five-star hotels while on leave from duty in neighboring Iraq.

The arrests came after an investigation that used informers to hunt Jordanian militants allied to Zarqawi who help recruit Arab militants to fight against U.S. troops. "The interrogations revealed their membership of these underground groups. They were recruiting terrorists for al Qaeda in Iraq and collecting donations for the organization," said another security source. Jordanian intelligence has stepped up its vigilance after receiving warnings of possible attacks against Western targets in the kingdom following the latest bomb attacks in London and the Egyptian resort of Sharm el-Sheikh.

Security sources say the militants are part of several Sunni fundamentalist underground cells that have been uncovered in recent months in Jordan. Prosecutors were expected to issue a formal indictment against the militants, who come from the Sweileh neighborhood of Amman, an impoverished Islamist stronghold, by the end of the month. There we go with the "impoverished" areas theory again, but I do like the below.

They will be charged with conspiracy to carry out terror attacks, which carries the death penalty.
Posted by: BA || 08/04/2005 08:22 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Inspector Reynaud around?
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 9:15 Comments || Top||

#2  Too bad, so sad.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 08/04/2005 9:15 Comments || Top||

#3  Seventeen arrested... that makes a lot of threads to pull to start unravelling the Al Qaeda fabric. 7/7 and 7/21, distressing as they were/are, begin to look like a disaster for A.Q. and its affiliates. So many individuals swept up by the authorities, so much of the spider's web revealed, and a change in attitude across Europe to the mouthy Muslim radicals in their midst. I await with bated breath the next revelation! :-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/04/2005 9:39 Comments || Top||

#4  Still trying to figure out what the hell this has to do with Lebanon? LOL!
Posted by: danking70 || 08/04/2005 10:11 Comments || Top||

#5  Fixed title
Posted by: Steve || 08/04/2005 11:02 Comments || Top||

#6  I was already uneasy about using the most prominent hotels in Amman. On my next break I'll choose a second-rank one (and since I'll be paying, it's doubly sensible). Jordan's very nice but it just feels like a juicy target. All the stikes against it - at peace with Israel, America's poodle (the jihadis probably know or sense the incredible amount of cooperation that remains unacknowledged), successful and moderate monarchy with a very secular feel.
Posted by: Verlaine in Iraq || 08/04/2005 11:10 Comments || Top||

#7  "...interrogations of the suspects revealed ..."
JORDANIAN interrogation? Ouch!
Posted by: glenmore || 08/04/2005 12:41 Comments || Top||

#8  Does anyone else get the impression that these folks have a zombie like personality, and robotically follow whoever is directing them?

The British bombers were reported to have become more "pious in their Islamic practice". It seems that something has grasped their mind and won't let go.

Similar to cults like Hare Krishna, Scientology, or Unification Church here in the USA when they get a hold of someone...
Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 12:42 Comments || Top||

#9  ...and I second glenmore's thoughts on "Jordanian Interrogation". Do you suppose the Brits could borrow these guys from King Abdullah to question Haroun Aswad when they get him from Zambia?
Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 12:53 Comments || Top||

#10  Sorry about the title mixup. Thanks for fixing Steve, lol! I was trying to quickly post this one and the story of the al-Jazeera video of Zawahri threatening the UK at the same time!
Posted by: BA || 08/04/2005 14:04 Comments || Top||

#11  The impoverished areas is key. See improvished areas are areas (a) the authorities tend to be distrusted (b) the people tend to be more easily misled into idiocy (marxism for example) (c) the people can be bribed.

That does not mean impoverished areas create Jihadists, but it does make those areas potential safe areas that should be watched carefully.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 08/04/2005 15:12 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks & Islam
Free Women Available Soon
Question
in todays' world, slavery does not exist and also muslims are not winning wars against kufaar to capture their women. We do not find anything like this today. My second question is that I've heard from a mufti in Dars-e-Quran that if a man is poor and cannot afford the amount of mehr and also expenses of marriage then he should enter into nikah with a londi as nothing is required to pay her, but in case of ordinary girl, he has to pay. Please advise in this regard.

Answer
Allah Ta’ala is our Creator and is All-Wise. What even he has decreed for us is full of wisdom, whether our feeble minds can fathom it or not. We, as his servants, do not question Allah Ta’ala regarding His laws.

While at present slavery may not be in vogue, we are informed in the Ahaadith that many wars will occur before Qiyaamat, and there will be utility for these laws of Shari’ah in the future. Yes, in the Qur’aan, Allah Ta’ala has explained that if a man cannot afford to marry a free woman, he may marry a slavegirl.

And Allah Ta’ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai
Posted by: classer || 08/04/2005 05:02 || Comments || Link || [15 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Get ya some nikah with a londi.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 08/04/2005 9:17 Comments || Top||

#2  While at present slavery may not be in vogue...

But you're working on it, aren't you, holy man?
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 9:17 Comments || Top||

#3  When Al Moujahiroun website published their future islamic constitution for Europe, they expressely made references to slavery, the "rights" of slaves or slaveowners, etc, etc... I got that one somewhere.

Add the despisable contempt for wimmen and sexual repression that show in the islamic world (even I am not so bad, and God knows I'm a twisted, undersexed neurotic mommy's boy), and you've got one very bleak glimpse of the future, given that muslim share of the world population is going to greatly increase in the coming decades, with absolutely no islamic reformation in the making, and the West caught up in its own guilt-inducing multiculturalism and relativism.

There will be a large, unproductive part of Humanity which will deny most rights to one half of its population, in addition to any religious or ethnic minorities, and enforce the inherent inegalities beween believers of the Master Religion and others, and between free men and slaves.

This goes against everything the liberal tradition of the West holds dear. How can so called "liberals" (such an hijacked word in english) actually support this?

Let's hope the global WOT (and by that I mean the culture and ideas clash) will go well, because I don't want that comparatively younger and more populous muslim population to be expansionnist and aggressive.

Damn, that ruined my day, I'll go to ebay and buy some crap to cheer me up.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 08/04/2005 9:19 Comments || Top||

#4  While at present slavery may not be in vogue, we are informed in the Ahaadith that many wars will occur before Qiyaamat, and there will be utility for these laws of Shari’ah in the future.

There really isn't much you can add to that.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 9:24 Comments || Top||

#5  You guys are hilarious, especially classer with the title amended for we infidels!
You can see why we kaffir ladies are behind this war (on the Crusader side) 1000%--Life under the burka sux. Big Time.
Posted by: Jennie Taliaferro || 08/04/2005 9:29 Comments || Top||

#6  You said it, Jennie.
Posted by: phil_b || 08/04/2005 9:35 Comments || Top||

#7  Look at the Yemenis and the Palestinians, the Pakistanis and the Sudanese: Yes, the babies are being born, but how many kill off one another before they have a chance to input into the production of the next generation? Not to mention the imaginary million or so in the Palestinian population figures, and quite likely elsewhere. Save your shopping spree for another day, anonymous5089, and take a nice, long walk in the fresh air and sunshine to clear your head and settle your nerves. ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/04/2005 9:49 Comments || Top||

#8  Besides, despite what the Koran may or may not permit, we Western women do not enslave easily, and have been known to get our own back. (I'm thinking specifically of one of Mr. Wife's cousin's brother-in-law, whose wife got mad at him one night, sewed him into the bedsheet, and beat him to a pulp with a frying pan.)
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/04/2005 9:54 Comments || Top||

#9  It's all about domination of the special boys over the girls and other boys. Slavery's on the end of the sliding scale of domination but the basic idea of control and repress in varying ways and degrees is a constant theme throughout. Nice people.
Posted by: MunkarKat || 08/04/2005 10:14 Comments || Top||

#10  Misogynistic Islam cannot exist without the compliance of women. But such compliance can only be bred in a vacuum. Women must be trained from birth to be subservient slaves, that it is the only way they can live. And they can never, ever be exposed to women living free lives, or they instantly learn that there is another way--and from then on are no longer "pure" slaves. Not only that, but they can now "infect" other women with the desire for freedom. For this reason, I hope against hope that Dick Cheney steps down at some point and the Vice Presidency is given to Condoleeza Rice. The effect would be a quiet and simultaneous revolution among women the world over. Multiplied by the fact that she is of darker skin that most Moslems, and thus women like her are looked down on even further than light skinned women.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 08/04/2005 10:50 Comments || Top||

#11  in todays' world, slavery doesnot exist and also muslims are not winning wars against kufaar to capture their women.

Tell that to the enslaved Sudanese, mufti-boy!
Posted by: BA || 08/04/2005 10:53 Comments || Top||

#12  Free women! I am so there.
Posted by: William Jefferson Clinton || 08/04/2005 11:23 Comments || Top||

#13  'moose - VP Rice would drive all the people crazy we want to drive crazy... Ouch!
Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 12:20 Comments || Top||

#14  VP Cheney could get his ducks in a row, then retire for "health reasons", partially true in that he would be laughing himself silly. The vote in the House would also be a blast, as long as republicans were threatened with grim death if they voted against her. Granted, the "black caucus" would vote against her, but any white democrat who did so would soon feel like he did a few rounds with Mike Tyson in his prime. Anyway, after Condi was VP, women all over the world would get a big pinch of assertiveness. A lot of that Sharia crap would get thrown back in men's faces, and if they wanted to argue the point, a butcher's knife in the purse might say otherwise. Hell, cultures all over the planet would go bananas, because, as a saying I have heard goes, "When women stand up, men sit down."
Posted by: Anonymoose || 08/04/2005 13:59 Comments || Top||

#15  I'm thinking specifically of one of Mr. Wife's cousin's brother-in-law, whose wife got mad at him one night, sewed him into the bedsheet, and beat him to a pulp with a frying pan.

Hummm, I had a supervisor who told me a story like that once. She wouldn't have been one of those peaceful submissive asian ladies, would she?
Posted by: Steve || 08/04/2005 14:03 Comments || Top||

#16  you suppose that if we were to offer them Helen Thomas as an preview of a Kaffir woman they might forget the whole thing?
Posted by: Flomoger Croluger3636 || 08/04/2005 14:22 Comments || Top||

#17  A lot of that Sharia crap would get thrown back in men's faces, and if they wanted to argue the point, a butcher's knife in the purse might say otherwise.

Which would result in tanker loads of stones being shipped to the Middle East to make up for the ones they used to stone the women.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 14:23 Comments || Top||

#18  I used "butcher knife" rhetorically. There have long been many ways for women to strike down men who oppress them. In ancient Rome, a particular plant was so often used to poison husbands that the authorities had to order every plant destroyed both within and far outside city limits. If nothing else, how easy is it to tyrannize a woman by ordering her to "get your fat ass into the kitchen and make me a pah!", if you actually want to *eat* the pie she just made, after.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 08/04/2005 16:11 Comments || Top||

#19  if you actually want to *eat* the pie she just made, after.

And it didn't take 'em long to decide,
That Earl had to die
Goodbye Earl
Those black-eyed peas
They tasted all right to me Earl
You're feelin' weak?
Why don't you lay down and sleep Earl?
Ain't it dark
Wrapped up in that tarp Earl?
Posted by: Steve || 08/04/2005 16:40 Comments || Top||

#20  #12 Free women! I am so there.

I ain't goen for this billywad, unless I can git moola for nothin too.
Posted by: Mamood Dire Straiti || 08/04/2005 17:01 Comments || Top||

#21  He's got it,

"...our feeble minds",

and then theys'a gonna fathom it, or not. Just call the bride a prostitute and be done with it. We got the message on all fronts by now.

MMmmm, blonde raisins.
Posted by: rhodesiafever || 08/04/2005 20:39 Comments || Top||

#22  trailingwife said,

Look at the Yemenis and the Palestinians, the Pakistanis and the Sudanese: Yes, the babies are being born, but how many kill off one another before they have a chance to input into the production of the next generation?"

Not enough...

Thanks,
LC FOTSGreg

Posted by: LC FOTSGreg || 08/04/2005 22:45 Comments || Top||


Africa: Horn
Sudanese clash for third day after Garang death
At least 20 people were reported killed overnight in the Sudanese capital as clashes between northerners and southerners extended to a third day on Wednesday after the death of former southern rebel leader John Garang. Violence in Khartoum erupted on Monday when angry southerners took to the streets after the official announcement of the death in a helicopter crash of Garang, who fought the northern government for two decades before making peace. "There are quite a number of casualties and it's quite serious," U.N. spokeswoman Radhia Achouri told Reuters. Some southerners fear the absence of Garang, who was made Sudan's first vice president last month, could weaken their hand in governing Africa's largest country.
Posted by: Fred || 08/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Israel-Palestine
Islamic Jihad declares halt to rocket attacks as Israel prepares to leave Gaza
A major Palestinian militant group declared on Wednesday that it would fire no more rockets at Israelis through Israel's planned withdrawal from the Gaza Strip, after a deadly barrage inadvertently killed a 3-year-old Palestinian boy.

The declaration by Islamic Jihad could ease the withdrawal, set to begin in two weeks. Islamic Jihad has been responsible for many attacks on Israeli targets in recent weeks, making the group one of the biggest threats to a smooth pullout. Israel is leaving all 21 settlements in Gaza and four small enclaves in the West Bank. Israel has said it would not pull out under fire and has pledged a harsh response if troops or settlers are attacked. There was no claim of responsibility for the attack Tuesday night, which was aimed at a large gathering of Israelis in the nearby town of Sderot protesting the withdrawal plan. Instead, the rudimentary rockets, which frequently miss their targets, landed on a house in the Palestinian town of Beit Hanoun in northern Gaza. The rockets killed the Palestinian boy and wounded nine other people, including five children. Four are children of a former Palestinian Cabinet minister, Hisham Abdel Razek, a senior official in the ruling Fatah party.

Islamic Jihad issued a statement denying any involvement and calling the attack an "unfortunate incident". It said it had issued orders three days ago to stop firing rockets "to give the chance for a quiet Zionist departure from our beloved Gaza". It was not clear how committed Islamic Jihad was to this latest cease-fire declaration. The group has attacked Israeli targets repeatedly throughout a 6-month-old truce between Israel and the Palestinians, saying it was acting to avenge Israeli violations. It has claimed responsibility for the two suicide bombings carried out during the truce.
Posted by: Fred || 08/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Wonder if there'll be any inhouse payback for these retard's screwup?
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 8:37 Comments || Top||

#2  How would we differentiate that particular signal from the background noise over there, tu3031?
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/04/2005 9:03 Comments || Top||

#3  One Point for trailing wife...
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 9:05 Comments || Top||

#4  Dang....just when the "work accidents" were going up. Ah well, may the Darwin Award be handed over now?
Posted by: BA || 08/04/2005 10:49 Comments || Top||

#5  This does not mean alot...

The Islamofartz are just regrouping. I Think Maasad knows what's going on really, and are prepared for nasty s**t coming down soon...
Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 12:45 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Taleban kill eight Afghan security forces
KABUL - Taleban insurgents have killed four Afghan troops and four police officers in an attack on a checkpoint in the country’s east, interior ministry spokesman Lutfullah Mashal said on Wednesday. “A group of 50 terrorists attacked a checkpost in Kamdesh district of Nuristan province in which four soldiers and four police were killed yesterday evening,” Mashal told AFP.
How many dead Taleban?
Kamdesh is about 220 kilometers (140 miles) northeast of the capital Kabul.
Posted by: Steve White || 08/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Africa: Subsaharan
Zambia to hand suspected militant to Britain
LUSAKA - A suspected militant arrested in Zambia and linked by media reports to the July 7 suicide bomb attacks in London will be deported to Britain, Zambian President Levy Mwanawasa said on Wednesday. Haroon Rashid Aswad, a British citizen, was arrested in Zambia on July 20. Media reports have linked him to both the London bombings and an attempt to set up a militant training camp in the United States. “We have discussed with the governments of the US and Britain and we have finally agreed that Mr. Aswad must be deported to Britain because that is his country,” Mwanawasa told a news conference.
"Hands behind you, Mr. Aswad."
"Ouch! Damn those are tight!"
“The man was detained for terrorist activities and for violating immigration laws,” Mwanawasa said. “We are going to deport him very soon.” Zambian officials said that both British anti-terror investigators and representatives of the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) were in Lusaka and that the British team had been allowed to interrogate Aswad.
"Basil, be a dear and hand me the number 7. Then check out the BA flights, we wouldn't want to be late."
Mwanawasa did not say when Zambia planned to deport Aswad, but a source at the British High Commission in Lusaka said he was expected to be handed over to British authorities on Wednesday. A British security source said earlier that Aswad could be of more interest to US investigators than to the team investigating the London bombings.
"C'mon Basil, hurry the hell up, we want a word with this mook."
"Of course Tyrone, but all good things take time. Care to stay for tea?"
A British Foreign Office spokeswoman in London said: “We have got agreement from Zambia to undertake a consular visit and hope to talk vigorously to the British national today.”
Posted by: Steve White || 08/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Can they say Asswad on TV these days?
Posted by: Monty Burns || 08/04/2005 9:51 Comments || Top||

#2  I hope the "interrogation techniques" are as "efficient" as those done by the Jordanian police that has been discussed elsewhere today...
Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 12:47 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Iraq insurgents using more powerful bombs
WASHINGTON - Insurgents are using more powerful, armor penetrating bombs in attacks like those this week that killed 21 US marines in western Iraq, a top general said on Wednesday. “We are seeing larger amounts of explosives,” said Brigadier General Carter Ham of the US Joint Staff. “We are seeing different techniques that are being used in an effort to counter the efforts of coalition and Iraqi security forces to protect folks while they are moving -- different types of penetrators, different techniques of triggering the events.”

“I mean, again, this is a very brutal, lethal and adaptive enemy,” he said.
And not all of them are stupid.
Ham said an attack on Wednesday that killed 14 marines and interpreter was in the same area as an ambush on Monday that claimed the lives of six Marine snipers. He said the marines were in an amphibious assault vehicle, an armored vehicle that carries less armor protection than a tank, when it was struck by a roadside explosion in the town of Haditha.
Posted by: Steve White || 08/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Well then maybe we should have an attack that kills 14,000.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 08/04/2005 0:11 Comments || Top||

#2  “I mean, again, this is a very brutal, lethal and adaptive enemy,” he said.

Ok general, then it's time to get brutal, lethal and adaptive in return.
Posted by: Rafael || 08/04/2005 1:17 Comments || Top||

#3  I use to care'bigjim-ky', but I'm not going to give myself a stroke worrying about the US's response anymore to our valiant guys being picked off like that. No one in my family is over there, and I could give a rat's a** if we win or lose now!! I'm still 'smarting' over the dusty MOAB's I helped pay for, just sitting in their warehouses...holding the floor down!!
Posted by: smn || 08/04/2005 5:34 Comments || Top||

#4  Moderators and finger-waggers, note that I did not respond to Today's Winner. This restraint is, um, unsatisfying, to say the least.
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 7:32 Comments || Top||

#5  Hey, I say go for it .com. I've already started.
Posted by: phil_b || 08/04/2005 7:46 Comments || Top||

#6  Admirable restraint, .com.

If you feed them, they not only keep coming - they leave troll droppings all over the nice clean floor.
Posted by: anon || 08/04/2005 7:51 Comments || Top||

#7 
smn: "...dusty MOAB's I helped pay for, just sitting in their warehouses...holding the floor down!!"

There are NO warehouses filled with MOAB's, dusty or otherwise. It was an experimental weapon, and is NOT in general production, besides, delivering such a weapon is problematic at best. Pinhead!

AR
Posted by: Analog Roam || 08/04/2005 8:59 Comments || Top||

#8  OK, enough with smn. He doesn't rate TROLL. He's just not good enough. I propose a DIMWIT designation, or in keeping with RB's alliterative tradition, a DDD - Dangerously Deluded Dimwit.
Posted by: phil_b || 08/04/2005 9:54 Comments || Top||

#9  Not only are they using more powerful bombs, but they continue the stupid practice of filming attacks, thus providing our guys with mucho info on terror tactics and such. See below:

http://crusader.rulez.jp/files/0804200501.wmv

After viewing video, note how the mortar team operated completely out in the open -- no foliage, brush, or trees to take cover from UAVs or aircraft.
Posted by: Attucks is Crisp || 08/04/2005 10:47 Comments || Top||

#10  He said the marines were in an amphibious assault vehicle,..

I'm kind of curious: Western Iraq, is it not all desert? If so, why ride around in an amphibious assault vehicle? And why cram so many of them into ONE vehicle?

It's not good to place too many potential targets in one spot. Spread 'em out, guys.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 08/04/2005 13:20 Comments || Top||

#11  Oooooooops. Sorry. Can somebody fix that?
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 13:38 Comments || Top||

#12  4,000 Hail Marys. lol.
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 13:43 Comments || Top||

#13  Dumped the problem comment, the url blew formatting all to hell.
Posted by: Steve || 08/04/2005 13:52 Comments || Top||

#14  If so, why ride around in an amphibious assault vehicle?

Because that's what the Marines have for APCs. Besides Afghanistan, this is the farthest they have operated from a beach. I've heard they may get something Stryker-like in the future for in-shore operations., if that doesn't get the Army's panties in a bunch. Marines got tanks, but they ain't designed to carry troops inside.
Posted by: Steve || 08/04/2005 13:58 Comments || Top||

#15  And not all of them are stupid.

There's nothing quite so dangerous as a resourceful idiot.
Posted by: Crasing Jererong6917 || 08/04/2005 14:18 Comments || Top||

#16  The picture I was trying to post showed the aftermath (Thanks for the fix BTW, Steve). The AAV was totally flipped over. They weigh in at 26 tons, so this was no routine IED.
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 15:44 Comments || Top||

#17  Sounds to me like they may need fewer guys per vehicle. Just as repeating rifles made the infantry square obsolete, large bombs like this may make APC's packed with a dozen guys obsolete, if the terrorists can keep it up. More vehicles, unfortunately, means higher fuel and maintenance costs. Politically, I see it happening if we keep taking hits like this one - no congressman is going to deny funding on this.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 08/04/2005 16:24 Comments || Top||

#18  Armoured segways with Blue Force Tracking.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 08/04/2005 16:33 Comments || Top||

#19  The marines have some variant of the vehicle the Stryker was derived from.

I am under the impression that there's still a large stockpile of things like M-113's in Kuwait from the first gulf war. I wonder if it could be useful?

(Not to mention... aren't there Bradleys from the force drawdowns in the 90's stockpiled somewhere?)
Posted by: Phil Fraering || 08/04/2005 18:37 Comments || Top||

#20  A is C, OMG the wmv file is almost trance like. I have to say this is the first video of this type that I've viewed. I've seen alot of our guys stuff but not this.
Just enforces how nuts these guys really are.
Posted by: Jan || 08/04/2005 18:48 Comments || Top||

#21  An M-113 or a Stryker wouldn't have made any difference, excepting maybe the Strykers's speed may have made the explosion tricker to set off if it was remote. Even unlikely a Bradley comes through this sort of explosion...
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 19:19 Comments || Top||

#22  Read Belmont Club's fisking of the General's press conference on the Marines deaths.
At this link.

Here's the first hint that this operation is qualitatively different from anything previous. The implication of Gen. Ham's statements is that in the past the coalition only had the ability to drive out insurgents locally, like chasing a soap bar around a tub. He strongly suggests that this time, there is no place to hide and the loss of the 21 Marines was in line with this new and offensive goal.

...
It turns out from the answer that the ongoing operation, which has no public name, is quite large. This operation runs all along the Euphrates River line "all the way out to the border".
...



Posted by: 3dc || 08/04/2005 19:22 Comments || Top||

#23  Build berms on the sides of the frequently travelled roads, add concrete barriers. Maybe this might help.
Posted by: Rafael || 08/04/2005 19:35 Comments || Top||

#24  Anyone know if AAV7s have floor escape hatches? I suspect not due to watertightness concerns. If so, the Marines a better chance to get out if they were in LAV-25s or M113s.

Berms are perfect places to bury IEDs and would direct the blast directly into the sides of vehicles.
Posted by: ed || 08/04/2005 20:18 Comments || Top||


Safehouse Destroyed; 10 Terrorists Detained
Coalition forces conducted a raid in western Ramadi early Aug. 3 resulting in the capture of 10 suspected terrorists.

Upon arrival at the intended target, a local Iraqi citizen confirmed the building was being used as a terrorist safehouse.
Thank you, Ahmed Q. Citizen.
When forces approached the building several suspected terrorists fled throughout the surrounding area. Six suspected terrorists were immediately detained and four were captured after they hid inside a nearby Mosque. Iraqi citizens assisted the Coalition forces by pointing out the hiding place of the four suspects.

Prior to the raid, a male who lived in the safehouse came outside and told Coalition forces that terrorists were storing explosives inside where his two small children remained. Coalition forces immediately rescued the children and escorted them away from the building. The children were safely reunited to their family.

The building was then destroyed by attack helicopters. Secondary explosions were seen. Additionally, improvised explosive device materials and weapons were found in the safehouse during the post-strike search. The 10 suspected terrorists are currently detained for further questioning.
It must be extraordinarily hard to be a soldier surrounded by people desperate for your help. It's less fighting the bad guys than saving people's lives.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 08/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Pain...inflict great pain.
Posted by: anymouse || 08/04/2005 8:45 Comments || Top||


Joint Commission for Conditions-Based Transition Holds First Meeting
The joint commission for conditions-based transition held its initial meeting Aug. 2. The commission will establish the conditions for gradual transition of security responsibility to the Iraqi security forces. Membership of the joint commission includes Iraq’s Minister of the Interior, Minister of Defense and the National Security Advisor, the U.S. Ambassador, the U.K. Ambassador, the Commander of Multi-National Force-Iraq and the Deputy Commanding General.

The first meeting resulted in agreement on the way ahead for the commission. Members agreed to the following guidelines in developing the strategy:
The key consideration is the capability of Iraqi security forces.

In addition to the capabilities of the Iraqi security forces, other considerations will include the capacity of local governments to exercise civil authority and provide basic services, as well as the level of the insurgent threat.

Transition of security will not be based on rigid timelines.

Transition will be gradual to ensure continued success of Iraqi governance and security forces.

The transition of security to Iraqi security forces and the reduced presence of Coalition Forces will be visible to the Iraqi people.

A working group was chartered to meet twice weekly to assist in the process. The commission will meet every other week to finalize the conditions and criteria for the conditions-based transition. The commission will report back to the Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Ja’fari with their recommendations by September 26th 2005.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 08/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yeah, they are under the command of Corps of Radical
Assingment Protocol.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 08/04/2005 0:20 Comments || Top||

#2  My eyes actually crossed, reading that.
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/04/2005 9:01 Comments || Top||

#3  It's an art to be able to write that way, TW. Takes years of bureaucratic practice.

But what it says is: a) we will leave in the forseeable future: Iraq belongs to the Iraqis. b) we won't leave prematurely and c) both we and the Iraqi authorities will jointly figure out when / how much is right.

The phrase "and provide basic services" is a key element here. It implies a functioning country.
Posted by: leader of the pack || 08/04/2005 19:47 Comments || Top||

#4  Thank you, pack leader. I fancy myself reasonably intelligent, but I can't fathom legal documents, financial stuff, and now mil-speak. But now that you've translated, and my eyes have uncrossed, I like what the Commission decided. A functioning Iraq is key... and they can always ask us to stay on later, in an advisory capacity or some such thing, right?
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/04/2005 22:49 Comments || Top||



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