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The New York Post reports that 850 voters in NYC are officially 164 years old. Tell me we don't need voter ID laws! We need ID in many other areas of life without such a huge progressive pushback. It is only someone who wants to steal an election who is vehemently opposed to such legislation.
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cheaters are like bank robbers; they do not stop until they are caught
And then there's Chicago/Cook County. 'Getting caught' doesn't occur (camera malfunctions, unlocked doors & potty breaks for the poll workers - it's all good).
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It's NOT cook county,he should be an easy catch.
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The New York Post reports that 850 voters in NYC are officially 164 years old. Tell me we don't need voter ID laws! We need ID in many other areas of life without such a huge progressive pushback. It is only someone who wants to steal an election who is vehemently opposed to such legislation.
[WASHINGTONTIMES] Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, city officials have laid down the law to Christian pastors within their community, telling them bluntly via an ordinance that if they refuse to marry homosexuals, they will face jail time and fines.
The dictate comes on the heels of a legal battle with Donald and Evelyn Knapp, ordained ministers who own the Hitching Post wedding chapel in the city, but who oppose gay marriage, The Daily Caller reported.
A federal judge recently ruled that the state's ban on gay marriage was unconstitutional, while the city of Coeur d'Alene has an ordinance that prevents discrimination based on sexual preference.
The Supreme Court's recent refusal to take on gay rights' appeals from five states has opened the doors for same-sex marriages to go forth.
The Knapps were just asked by a gay couple to perform their wedding ceremony, The Daily Caller reported.
"On Friday, a same-sex couple asked to be married by the Knapps, and the Knapps politely declined," The Daily Signal reported. "The Knapps now face a 180-day jail term and a $1,000 fine for each day they decline to celebrate the same-sex wedding."
The Alliance Defending Freedom has filed a suit in federal court to stop the city from enforcing the fine and jail sentence, saying in a statement from senior legal counsel Jeremy Tedesco that the government has overstepped its bounds, The Daily Caller reported.
"Many have denied that pastors would ever be forced to perform ceremonies that are completely at odds with their faith, but that's what is happening here -- and it's happened this quickly," Mr. Tedersco said, The Daily Caller reported.
But the city sees it differently. As far back as May, city officials were insisting that their ordinance is indeed in line with law.
"If you turn away a gay couple, refuse to provide services for them, then in theory you violated our code, and you're looking at a potential misdemeanor citation," said Coeur d'Alene City Attorney Warren Wilson, to KXLY months ago.
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U.S. Armed Forces Oath of Enlistment - do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic...
and they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have relations with them."
Anyone think can't happen here? It's getting closer and closer to that point. At first we had to 'tolerate' it, then we had to accept it, and now these pastors have to, by law, condone it. How long before someone is forced to actively participate?
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Seems like this would go against freedom of religion
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..actually nearly the entire 1st Amendment - association, speech, religion. When three percent dictate to over fifty percent their culture it's long past any relationship to democracy or republic other than the usual People's Democratic Republic of the late 20th Century. Who now is the intolerant? It was never about 'fairness'. It's always been about POWER.
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They're running their wedding chapel as a business; as such it has to comply with anti-discrimination laws as they apply to businesses. Their personal religious beliefs will not apply.
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Glenmore, thats a dangerous precedent you're endorsing.
The rights freedom of association, of free practice of religion are easily abridge because of a link to commerce? Those are fundamental rights, and abridging them must meet a very high standard.
Sorry - in THIS nation, we have always carved out exemptions for the free practice of religion.
See the problem is that for them, gay "marriage" is a sham. Its a lie, it is illegitimate and cannot exist per orthodox Christian doctrine. Ethically, they can no more perform a gay marriage than they can a Satanic one - they simply are antithetical to their core religion.
Also, you would willingly have the government enforce a law that forces them to act against their fundamental faith - their own moral basis - or else be forbidden to perform a ritual (marriage) and a service to coreligionists and get remunerated from it if they don't provide it to everyone?
So in your view, these gays can also start suing the local Catholic parish priest because he refuses to perform the ceremony as well? It is a paid service - and under your massive expansion of government power, it gets the "commerical" treatment, and allows you to apply your threat of force to these priests who do not submit to your moral views as implemented by the government.
And make no mistake - it is force we are talking about. They government will send armed agents, physically take you from your property, and will kill you if you effectively resist. Ask the Weavers. IS that really where you want to be Glenmore, on the side of the jackboots?
For along those paths lie the worst sorts of oppressions.
What's next Glemore, forcing Doctors and Nurses to participate in abortions? After all, that is a "right" that has been endorsed by other large government people who hold the same view as you, and it is also a business, because they charge for it, and opposition is on moral grounds. So a MD or RN who refuses is not allowed to work?
See where that thinking takes you? Hint: jackboots.
My personal take? If you dont like it go someplace else. The gay couple are assholes. These people perform CHRISTIAN Weddings, and the gays were not looking for that. They are in no way damaged or prevented from exercising their own lifestyle by the refusal of a religious service, a religion to which they are not a party. And the government here is being massively fascistic and oppressive. Its the kind of government that will foment armed rebellion that ends with the autocrats hanging from telephone poles (deservedly, IMHO).
Keep pushing, city officials. I'm sure Coeur d'Alene has plenty of telephone poles.
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The pastors should call the city's bluff and go to jail. That should go over well.
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The rights freedom of association, of free practice of religion are easily abridge because of a link to commerce? Those are fundamental rights, and abridging them must meet a very high standard.
That's the argument being used against Hobby Lobby, et all, as they fight the Obamacare abortion/abortifacient requirement up to the Supreme Court, OldSpook. Also how a number of states drove the Catholic Church out of the adoption business, and may soon drive her out of the hospital business as well, to the detriment of society.
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Hmmm ... that does NOT sound like the trailing wife we know and love. Could somebody have hijacked her nym?
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I'd hope the city officials are as interested in addressing their crime problems as they are in forcing homosexual marriages. Coeur d'Alene crime. It seems that it is quite high. They are headed towards a Constitutional showdown--and probably going to lose.
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18:35 was most definitely not me. Not my thoughts, and definitely not my vocabulary. Thanks, guys.
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Hmmmm. The fake tw has also pretended to be Besoeker in the past. The IP, however, reveals all.
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Note that it and my nyms have been modified to remove, at least for this thread, any question of which is who. The issue has been referred upstairs to The Management.
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and the real Frank G is back from Sedona :-(
- Should be my regular IP
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You can't have gone to Sedona. It doesn't exist to begin with!
#25
To steal a line from "The Untouchables", who would admit to being Frank G were it not so? And isn't Sydonia on Mars?
As for the actual subject of this thread, speaking as a rabid free-market libertarian, if there were a vast pent-up demand for gay marriage serices, someone would step up to meet it. There is money to be made, gentlemen!
[NATIONALREVIEW] Democratic senator Mary Landrieu insists that her multimillion-dollar home in Washington, D.C., isn't a mansion.
At a campaign event in Bogalusa, La., this weekendâ, Landrieu called a woman up on stage to explain that the 7,300 square-foot house doesn't qualify as a mansion, and then interrupted the woman to add that she lives next to the cleaners and her home is only 36 feet wide. "They say I live in a mansion," Landrieu said. "It's a townhome, which I also have a home in New Orleans."
The New Orleans townhouse is her parents', she just rents a bedroom there...
Landrieu reportedly lives in a 7,316 square-foot house in D.C. that boasts five bathrooms, four water heaters, and 82 fire sprinkler heads. She claimed this $2.5 million residence as her address on her statement of candidacy, but listed her parents' townhouse address in New Orleans when she was qualifying for the ballot. At the beginning of the video, Landrieu appears to be complaining about the lack of scrutiny regarding her Republican opponent Bill Cassidy's home, pointing out that he lives on a lake. The label "Senator representing the District of Columbia" really seems to be getting to Landrieu.
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My father's house has many mansions
And one or two minor expansions:
The wing built for me
Stretches right to DC
And the pull of its lunar attractions.
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Wait a minute. If the house is only 36 feet wide but it has 7,316 square feet then how long is it? Oh, that's right, I have a calculator on my computer. Let's see, 7316 divided by 36 equals 203.2222222222222222222222. So for perspective, that's 67.66666666666667 yards. Not quite as long as a football field but pretty long for a house. Did I miss something?
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Actually, my first choice was Dry Prong, but I was afraid someone would view that as a microaggression.
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So for perspective, that's 67.66666666666667 yards. Not quite as long as a football field but pretty long for a house. Did I miss something?
Give the thing three stories (public rooms on the ground floor, private rooms upstairs, staff work rooms (kitchen, etc) in the basement), then recalculate.
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She rented a tired appaloosa
And strapped on a borrowed papoosa:
"How now, darkskinned brother!
It's me, Great White Mother,
Come back to embrace Bogalusa."
#14
The salary of Congresscritters is $174,000/year. Let me know how you become a millionaire on $174,000/year. Is this like Hillary turning $1000 into $100,000 by wise investing in cattle futures (sarc)? Democrats are just smart about other people's money and they don't pay their taxes?
h/t Gates of Vienna
Since he assumed office nearly six years ago, US President Barack Obama has been dogged by allegations of managerial incompetence. Obama, his critics allege, had no managerial experience before he was elected. His lack of such experience, they claim, is reflected in what they see as his incompetent handling of the challenges of the presidency.
In everything from dealing with the Congress, to reining in radical ideologues at the IRS, to handling the chaos at the Mexican border, to putting together coordinated strategies for dealing with everything from Ebola to Islamic State (IS), Obama’s critics claim that he is out of his league. That he is incompetent.
But if Israel’s experience with him is any guide, then his critics are the ones who are out to sea. Because at least in his handling of US relations with the Jewish state, Obama has exhibited a mastery of the tools of the executive branch unmatched by most of his predecessors.
Consider two stories reported in last Friday’s papers.
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US President Barack Obama has been dogged by allegations of managerial incompetence. Obama, his critics allege, had no managerial experience before he was elected. His lack of such experience, they claim, is reflected in what they see as his incompetent handling of the challenges of the presidency.
But he hired top men - TOP MEN!
Mike
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Obama’s critics claim that he is out of his league.
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The administration is certainly the master of the slow roll. Consider the IRS and its rounds of pound-the-table laughable questions: "Are you ever planning on running for office?" "Detail what you say in your prayers." Consider the interminable stone-walling, counting on a shift of attention to the next outrageous scandal. The Trunks are outclassed and impotent.
A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.
Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing
the drug and gang related violence in Mexico.
Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence
over three years, presented in a multi volume set intended to chronicle the death, violence and mayhem which has
dominated Mexico for six years.
Rantburg was assembled from recycled algorithms in the United States of America. No
trees were destroyed in the production of this weblog. We did hurt some, though. Sorry.
Welcome to the residence. My name is Carson. Ms. Landrieu will be down shortly. Please let me take your through to the library. 
