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Congo crowd kills man, eats him after militant massacres
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-Lurid Crime Tales-
US assault case: Saudi man faces deportation
[ARABNEWS] A 25-year-old Saudi national studying at the US University of Northern Iowa has been sentenced to up to 25 years in prison on charges he attacked a woman in her home in December, according to a US media report.

It said the attack happened in the early morning hours of Dec. 31 after the man, staying in the US on student visa, crashed his car in a Cedar Falls neighborhood.

According to the US report, a Cedar Falls woman said she thought she was going to be killed after Hamad Abdul Aziz Al-Salman forced his way into her house in December and started choking her and biting her neck.
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Posted by: Fred || 11/01/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  He has epilepsy and was just channeling Mo's fits?
Posted by: 3dc || 11/01/2014 1:14 Comments || Top||

#2  He should have sneaked across the border rather than enter legally. Would have been released upon his own recognizance, never to show up again, but no deportation.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/01/2014 7:33 Comments || Top||


-Obits-
Well done report with photos of Virgin Galactic SpaceShip 2 Crash
One pilot has died and another seriously injured during a test flight failure of Virgin Galactic's SpaceShipTwo on Friday. The much-delayed suborbital space tourism vehicle suffered an engine problem, followed by a catastrophic failure that resulted in the spaceplane crashing to the ground in pieces. The flight test used a new fuel mixture formulation for the first time in flight.

VSS Enterprise's first glide tests occurred in 2010, prior to the spacecraft eventually enjoying its first powered flight, which took place on April 29 of 2013 and was successful.

During that flight, SS2 was powered using Sierra Nevada Corporation's RocketMotorTwo (RM2) – a throttleable hybrid rocket engine, that was fueled with hydroxyl-terminated polybutadiene (HTBP) and nitrous oxide.

However, questions were raised on the fuel mix employed by this hybrid motor, not least due to the requirement to find additional power to propel SS2 to the required suborbital altitudes that would allow passengers to be classed as astronauts, but also due to apparent stability issues after 20 seconds of firing.

Earlier this year, Virgin Galactic bosses opted to switch from the rubber-based HTPB to a thermoplastic polyamide as the solid fuel. Friday's mission was the first time this fuel was used during a flight test. It had been ground tested prior to flight.

SNC has been quick to note the company had no involvement with the engine that was used during Friday's failure.

"SNC was in the past involved as a subcontractor to Scaled Composites, the prime contractor of this program for Virgin Galactic and was previously involved with the three successful powered flight tests of SS2," SNC noted on Friday.

"However, SNC's technical and program involvement ended in May of 2014 with Virgin Galactic's announcement to use its own internally developed technology for the SS2 rocket motor.

"SNC had no involvement in the build or qualification testing of the motor used in this flight, nor in the integration of this motor to SS2. SNC was not engaged in any manner in the pre-flight safety or technical approvals or in the flight operations of the mission conducted today. We were not aware of the test today, nor present on site or remotely monitoring the testing."
Posted by: 3dc || 11/01/2014 10:04 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ....That statement from SNC sounds to me like somebody knew this might be coming...

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 11/01/2014 15:56 Comments || Top||

#2  Sounds like they did a lot of ground testing, but when they went to altitude, something changed - catastrophically. Might have been caused by temperature differential. We had that problem with the early X-class aircraft, too.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 11/01/2014 17:11 Comments || Top||


-Short Attention Span Theater-
Area 51 scientist's deathbed video: UFOs are real, aliens have federal jobs
The Galactic Globe title should be "Clueless aliens could only find job working for government on Earth.
In one of the most extraordinary and strange deathbed confessions ever, an Area 51 scientist and career government worker recently left behind a video revealing supposed federal secrets that are nothing short of a conspiracy theorist's dream come true. The Inquistr reported Oct. 28 that Boyd Bushman, a highly accredited aerospace scientist and the holder of numerous innovative patents, decided to come clean in his last hours and record what he knew about the U. S. government's dealings with aliens and its secret UFO program. Perhaps most astonishing of all, though, was his revelation that not only were UFOs real, but that 18 extraterrestrials were currently working for the U. S. government.

Boyd Bushman, whose career saw the man holding positions with Lockheed-Martin, Hughes Aircraft and other aerospace firms, died on August 7. But prior to his passing, he gave an interview that has caught the attention of many in the UFO community. His words affirm much of what many have come to believe -- that UFOs are real, that the government has had dealings with aliens for decades, and that there has been a concerted effort to keep the information secret from the general populace over the same period.

Bushman says in the video that he was responsible at Area 51 for "reverse engineering" alien technology for use in the U. S. military. Among his revelations was that the alien craft was indeed saucer-shaped -- it was an actual "flying saucer" -- and 38 feet across.
So Pi times half of 38' squared equals.... carry the 17 minus ... anyway, a little over 1100 square feet of living space if the propulsion, supplies, and unknown etc. take up no room whatsoever. Not much space for 18 ETs if they were human size...
But far more shocking -- some might say more disturbing -- was Bushman's claims that aliens that had traveled to Earth were out and about, working for the federal government. The scientist said there were 18 extraterrestrials working for the government. Some of them were at least 250 years old.

Boyd Bushman isn't the first former government employee with inside knowledge of secret facilities like Area 51 who has been willing to share their experiences. However, he may be the most credible. His position as an aerospace engineer and his having opened up just before his death in what amounts to a deathbed confession (an act seen as having legal weight) lends extra merit to his words.
There was the deathbed confession of the man who invented the Bigfoot hoax, to compare this with -- did all the Bigfoot believers stop believing on his say-so?
Bushman also produced several photos of what he claimed were aliens working at Area 51, some of which he says died while working at the top secret government facility.
So more than eighteen originally arrived? It must have been awfully crowded in that machine, even if they were all Chihuahua-sized and in suspended animation.
The Nevada facility has been operational since 1955 and has been the focus of speculation ever since. Being an experimental testing ground cloaked the base not on in secrecy but also added the atmosphere that gave rise to the idea of cover-ups and sinister goings-on.

It is a story worthy of "The X-Files." Still, is there any validity to the claims of the late Boyd Bushman? Is Area 51 exactly what conspiracy theorists and UFO true believers have claimed it to be over the years -- a hiding place for UFOs and extraterrestrials?

Although Bushman's claims may be difficult to verify, one thing is certain: His video testament has become something of note. Since it was posted on Oct. 8, the interview video has garnered over 2.6 million views to date.
Posted by: gorb || 11/01/2014 14:41 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Aliens in government... that might explain Susan Rice. And what about B.O's birth certificate. Hmmm.
Posted by: One Bandersnatch || 11/01/2014 15:17 Comments || Top||

#2  So the Centaris sent us the F-35 and Obamacare.

Sound hostile, or simply the worst ETs ever.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 11/01/2014 16:13 Comments || Top||

#3  What I suspect is these guys are having a last laugh on their buddies by claiming this stuff. One last practical joke. Notice they never turn over any classified stuff, it's all just words.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 11/01/2014 16:58 Comments || Top||

#4  9 momths after the Roswell crash Al Gore was born. Coincidence? Not likely.
Posted by: BrerRabbit || 11/01/2014 17:04 Comments || Top||

#5  I have standing orders to be buried with my 1909 VDB (not S) my TI-60 and 19 Clovis points.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/01/2014 18:04 Comments || Top||

#6  Shipman, that is cruelty nearly beyond understanding. ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/01/2014 19:36 Comments || Top||

#7  19 clovis points will getcha a free tomahawk from Warclub of the Month.
Posted by: BrerRabbit || 11/01/2014 20:12 Comments || Top||

#8  Shipman: how much will you give me for a TRS-80 Model 4p?
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 11/01/2014 20:14 Comments || Top||

#9  - The truth is out there.
- Trust no one.
- Deny everything.
- They're watching.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 11/01/2014 21:08 Comments || Top||


Crowds overwhelm first Hello Kitty Con
[ARABNEWS] Hello Kitty cuteness is taking over Little Tokyo in downtown Los Angeles as the city hosts the first Hello Kitty fan convention.

Hello Kitty Con is expected to draw some 25,000 fans over four days.

Long lines snaked through the sold-out event at the Geffen Contemporary at the Museum of Contemporary Art, where conventioneers could pose for photos with Hello Kitty, get permanently inked with her image, hear lectures about her popularity and shop for exclusive products created for the mouthless cat character's 40th birthday, which falls on Nov. 1. "I grew up collecting Hello Kitty and being in love with her," said 30-year-old Grisel Esquivel, who was having a Hello Kitty face etched onto her wrist. reliably Democrat Chicago, aka The Windy City or Mobtown
... home of Al Capone, a succession of Daleys, Barak Obama, and Rahm Emmanuel,...
artist Mario Desa created about 100 Hello Kitty-inspired designs for ink-friendly fans. Organizers expect that about 50 conventioneers a day will receive free tattoos from the five artists at "HK Ink."

Frank Clow, a 51-year-old collector, spent hours waiting in line to get a Hello Kitty mermaid tattoo while his wife shopped for limited-edition collectibles. "I like tattoos in general," he said, adding that he took the day off from work to come to the convention.

Elena Ramirez and Janet Tongtip also took vacation days to come to Hello Kitty Con, where they were dazzled by the cuteness -- and the crowds. "Since we were little, we've been big fans," said Ramirez, 29. "We're getting sentimental looking at all the old bags and things we used to have." Tongtip said: "The lines are pretty bad, but they're moving quickly."
Posted by: Fred || 11/01/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It's heartwarming to see that people haven't lost touch with what brings meaning to their lives.
Posted by: ed in texas || 11/01/2014 7:43 Comments || Top||


Fake Clowns Terrorize France
[TIME] Creepy clowns are freaking out the French.
Ohfergawdsake.
A rash of scary pranks carried out at night by the costumed characters have put police officers on alert. Teenagers dressed as clowns and carrying weapons have spooked many French citizens.
I ain't afraid o' no clown.
The frightening characters have even led one town to ban the costume altogether for anyone over the age of 13.
Tonight's All Hallows' Eve. Gloria's wearing a pumpkin costume. I've disguised myself as a grumpy old man. Pretty scary, huh?
Southern California, New York City, and England have all experienced a creepy clown craze like the one in France in recent years.
Scary clowns are quite trendy. If I've heard one teeny tell me he/she/it was afraid of clowns I've heard a dozen. I used to be a young fellow, back when dinosaurs ruled the world, and we had different passing fads. In the 1920s there was goldfish swallowing, in the 1930s there was marathon dancing. In Germany and Italy it was for a time thought pretty nifty to dress up in a uniform and thump a few people.

Probably clowns are about to pass into history, now that the bluenoses have nagged the fun out of circuses and it takes a second mortgage to buy tickets for yourself and a favorite grandchild.

I wonder what these dainty children who're scared of clowns but sympathize with vampires would make of Harlequin, Pierrot, Pantaloon, Columbine, and Pulcinella?
Posted by: Fred || 11/01/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Coulrophobia?
Posted by: Incredulous || 11/01/2014 5:37 Comments || Top||

#2  In related news Real Clowns terrorize America from the Clown Car of Washington called the Whitehouse.
Posted by: Airandee || 11/01/2014 7:07 Comments || Top||

#3  The next invasion of France will feature little Chihuahuas in funny costumes, attacking in waves like tiny panzers.
Posted by: ed in texas || 11/01/2014 7:55 Comments || Top||

#4  Notice you don't hear about the mimes.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 11/01/2014 10:19 Comments || Top||

#5  It's always funny to hear about people afraid of clowns. Honestly, Nancy Pelosi's face is far scarier. Anyway, see a clown with a weapon charging you, it's fear for you life and you drop him.

After some of these idiots wind up dead, the craze will stop.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 11/01/2014 17:11 Comments || Top||


Pilot of Virgin Galactic space plane runs out of airspeed and ideas.
Virgin Galactic space tourism rocket explodes on test flight
That's not a good thing.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/01/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  A long post about the root causes via Rand Simberg's Transterrestrial Musings. TL;DR: you gotta walk before you fly.
Posted by: SteveS || 11/01/2014 0:39 Comments || Top||

#2  There's a reason test pilots are paid so much; it's in direct proportion to, every now and then, one of them not living long enough to spend it.
Posted by: ed in texas || 11/01/2014 7:52 Comments || Top||

#3  Krauthammer had it right last week when he essentially said, "these civilian launch pad explosions and tragic air crashes are the result of the U.S. [under the Champ] totally walking away from space research and development."
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/01/2014 7:59 Comments || Top||

#4  No, Besoeker, in one it's the result of Virgin Galactic making a bad design choice in selecting an engine some twelve years ago, and when they got dissatisfied with the subcontractor, they decided to go ahead and try to make it themselves, which they had no experience with. They made a lot of these bad decisions back when Bush was president.

Likewise, I think Antares, like the people making Atlas, had been making their Bad Decision regarding Russian engines back when _Clinton_ was President.

We still have at least two rocket companies with US built, liquid fueled engines, that ain't perfect but at least involve the US having an industrial base.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 11/01/2014 9:14 Comments || Top||

#5  BTW the two companies with US made engines are Boeing and SpaceX.
Posted by: 3dc || 11/01/2014 9:18 Comments || Top||

#6  Interesting. Thanks for the backgrounder Snowy.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/01/2014 10:33 Comments || Top||

#7  Not to mention Xcor and Blue Origin, but I think they're still trying to work things out.

Thought for the week: when SpaceX has an explosion (like the recent testbed loss they suffered) they can just take another engine cluster off the assembly line and build another one.

With Antares they're burning through a stockpile, and there aren't any after this.

I hadn't been paying much attention to Virgin Galactic, anyway, I suggest going over to Rand Simberg's blog, he'll probably have the leading rumors as they develop. Reportedly they got dissatisfied with the hybrid engines they were getting from Sierra Nevada, so they decided the problems were the contractor rather than the motors.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 11/01/2014 13:41 Comments || Top||


-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Ebola: US Defence Threat Reduction Agency calls for help across all agencies
Posted by: Anon1 || 11/01/2014 14:10 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  In it you discover ebola can live for 3 weeks on plastic and glass surfaces

So much for it being fragile outside the body
Posted by: Anon1 || 11/01/2014 14:13 Comments || Top||

#2  There's an interesting list of known unknowns in section '2.2.4. Ebola Characterization'.

This really is the time to take resolute action to stomp out the fire, not to play with the fire.

Posted by: Elmerert Hupens2660 || 11/01/2014 14:51 Comments || Top||


Canada imposes visa ban on three Ebola-hit countries
Oct 31 (Reuters) - Canada will stop issuing visas to people from the three West African nations where Ebola is widespread, the government said on Friday.

The federal citizenship ministry, explaining the move, said in an official document that "the introduction or spread of the disease would pose an imminent and severe risk to public health".

The country's official in charge of the response to Ebola said the move was medically unjustified.

Under the new regulations, which come into force immediately, Canada will not process visa applications from foreign nationals who have been in an Ebola-affected country within the previous three months.

The Conservative government's decision drew fire from Canada's official opposition New Democratic Party.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 11/01/2014 00:26 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Only clever thing if you are a small nation, limited facilities
Posted by: Anon1 || 11/01/2014 13:12 Comments || Top||


No Islamic nations have given anything to fight Ebola except Malaysia which sent rubber gloves
Posted by: anon1 || 11/01/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Well, Malaysia has all those rubber plantations, and they needed to move the gloves. That and the airline business hasn't been working out the way they'd thought. (Gonna hafta go back to piracy in the Straits of Malacca for Xmas...)
Posted by: ed in texas || 11/01/2014 8:56 Comments || Top||

#2  Across the news it was falsely reported as no african nation contributed, which was wrong

Shame on AP for that one
Posted by: Anon1 || 11/01/2014 10:35 Comments || Top||

#3  Given that Africa is contributing the bodies and an evolving experiment in social engineering (treatment of the dead, washing hands and shoes in dilute bleach on entering and leaving buildings, frequent hand washing with soap and water or dilute bleach, no hugging when greeting, community quarantines, and closed borders among others) I'm willing to give them a pass on more material aid.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/01/2014 11:24 Comments || Top||


Maine: judge rejects Ebola quarantine for Typhoid Mary
[HAMPTONROADS] A Maine judge has rejected a bid by state health officials to restrict the movement of nurse Kaci Hickox, who defied a quarantine for medical workers who have treated Ebola patients.

Judge Charles C. LaVerdiere ruled Friday that she should continue daily monitoring and coordinate travel with state officials so monitoring can continue. But, because she's not showing symptoms, the judge says she's not infectious.

The state went to court Thursday to impose restrictions until the 21-day incubation period for Ebola ends on Nov. 10.

Hickox, who treated Ebola patients in Sierra Leone, contended confinement at her home in northern Maine violated her rights.

She also contended it's not necessary because she poses no risk. She defied the state's voluntary quarantine by holding a news conference and going for a bike ride.
Posted by: Fred || 11/01/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Followed by 3 weeks later... a Maine judges contracts Ebola from a legal brief with some Ebola on it.
Posted by: 3dc || 11/01/2014 1:11 Comments || Top||

#2  Was it a legal brief or the Nyotaimori ?
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/01/2014 7:55 Comments || Top||

#3  In the early '80s, America could have blood checked every citizen for AIDS/HIV and isolated the carriers. The radicals in the gay community and allied PC politicians obstructed any such action, the consequence of which hundreds of thousands of their special interest group (along with others) died. Lesson unlearned - communicable diseases do not have rights.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/01/2014 9:15 Comments || Top||

#4  Yes agreed. It is horrible but i almost wish she does get it so they learn a big lesson and shut the borders before the wave hits
Posted by: Anon1 || 11/01/2014 13:14 Comments || Top||


Typhoid Mary's room-mate in Africa has ebola, doesn't know how they got it
Posted by: anon1 || 11/01/2014 18:16 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  They didn't use body sized condoms?
Posted by: 3dc || 11/01/2014 1:15 Comments || Top||

#2  Maybe little (mental age) Kaci is an asymptomatic carrier?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/01/2014 6:11 Comments || Top||

#3  Kaci is to Ebola as Fluke is to Birth Control; a political problem looking to dismantle a solution.
Posted by: Airandee || 11/01/2014 6:36 Comments || Top||

#4  "has ebola, doesn't know how they got it"
Hint: from somebody with ebola.
Posted by: ed in texas || 11/01/2014 8:52 Comments || Top||

#5 
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/01/2014 12:02 Comments || Top||

#6  Asymptomatic carriers... I think 12% of the total? That is a risk G(r)
Posted by: Anon1 || 11/01/2014 13:11 Comments || Top||

#7  #6 Asymptomatic carriers... I think 12% of the total? That is a risk G(r)

A blood test would reveal that. Only selected (CDC) labs in the United States are equipped to run Ebola tests.

Typhoid Kaci is being tested, right?
Posted by: One Bandersnatch || 11/01/2014 15:39 Comments || Top||

#8  Supposedly she was tested and came back negative. It's why the Jersey quarantine was lifted. It was pointed out though you usually can't see it in tests until AFTER the symptoms appears however. Which...well, if it gets loose the East Coast is the last place you want to be.
Posted by: Charles || 11/01/2014 17:55 Comments || Top||


-Land of the Free
This Week in Guns: November 1st, 2014


By Chris Covert
Rantburg.com

Eric Frein, the 31 year old who shot two Pennsylvania state troopers in a domestic dispute seven weeks ago, killing one, was captured alive on Thursday. From the photo taken, it appears Frein ran into a rifle buttstock around the time of his capture. Can't be too sure. The Pennsylvania state cops behaved horribly during the manhunt, beating passersby and invading private residents looking for Frein. Unsurprisingly, the prosecutor is seeking the death penalty. I wonder if the state police commanders who allowed their charges to run roughshod over innocent area residents will pay a penalty as well, as they should.

In Washington state, where liberal elites are trying to imposed universal background checks, the Seattle Times began its Long March towards a universal gun ban by calling for the elimination of lead in firearms ammunition, because of the environment. Yeah, man, cool, whatever, just pass the bong.

Speaking of passing a bong, last Wednesday a student was caught with an "incendiary device", to wit: a Molotov Cocktail. The Molotov cocktail is actually a firearm, but alas it is not registerable, and is made easily. Prolly used a bong to make it.

Loads.

Rantburg's summary for arms and ammunition:

Prices for pistol ammunition were unchanged, while prices for rifle ammunition were mixed.

Prices for used pistols and used rifles were mixed.

Pistol Ammo

.45 Caliber, 230 grain, From Last Week: -.01 Each After Unchanged (3 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Goose Island Sales, Tulammo, steel cased, .29 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: SG Ammo, Tulammo, steel cased, .29 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks))

.40 Caliber Smith & Wesson, 180 grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (5 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: SOWW Armory, Summit, FMJ, Reloads, .22 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: The America Marksman, Unknown Brand, reloaded, .23 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (9 Weeks))

9mm Parabellum, 115 grain From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Bang It Ammo, Wolf WPA, Steel Cased, FMJ, .19 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Freedom Munitions, Store Brand, Reloads, FMJ, .19 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (8 Weeks))

.357 Magnum, 158 grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks)

Cheapest, 50 rounds: Outdoor Unlimited, Independence, JSP, .39 per round
Cheapest Bulk: 1,000 Rounds: Cheaper Than Dirt, Magnum Michigan, Reloads, FMJ .38 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks))

Rifle Ammunition

.223 Caliber/5.56mm 55 grain, From Last Week: +.02 Each
Cheapest, 20 rounds: LG Outdoors, Tulammo, steel cased, FMJ, .24 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: LAX Ammunition, Tulammo, steel cased, .22 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (4 Weeks))

.308 NATO 145 grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (4 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Cheaper Than Dirt, Silver Bear, steel cased, .41 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: SG Ammo, Silver Bear, steel cased, .45 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (20 Weeks)(!))

7.62x39 AK 123 Grain, From Last Week: +.01 Each After Unchanged (5 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Ammunition Depot, Wolf WPA, steel case, .22 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Cheaper Than Dirt, Brown Bear (Barnaul), steel case, .22 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (4 Weeks))

.22 LR 40 Grain, From Last Week: -.02 Each After Unchanged (2 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds (Limit 4 Boxes): Natchez Shooters Supply, CCI, RNL, .06 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Munire USA, Armscor, .09 per round (From Last Week: +.01 Each)

Guns for Private Sale
Rifles


.223/5.56mm (AR Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $550 Last Week Avg: $560 (-) ($600 (3 Weeks), $550)
California (212, 205): Palmetto State Armory (M4 Pattern): $600 (3 Weeks) ($600, $600)
Texas (311, 313): American Tactical Imports Omni 15: $500 (2 Weeks) ($600 (2 Weeks), $500)
Pennsylvania (157, 161): DPMS: $550 ($600 (3 Weeks), $550)
Virginia (217, 225): Olympic Arms: $600 ($600 (3 Weeks), $550 (2 Weeks))
Florida (386, 367): American Tactical Imports Omni M4: $450 (!!) ($500 (2 Weeks), $450)

.308 NATO (AR-10 Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $978 Last Week Avg: $988 (-) ($988 (2 Weeks), $953 (3 Weeks))
California (49, 52): Smith & Wesson M&P10: $1,000 (Same Gun (3 Weeks))($1,000, $1,000)
Texas (58, 61): DPMS LAR308: $900 (2 Weeks)($1,000 (3 Weeks), $900)
Pennsylvania (36, 33): Bushmaster ORC: $990 (Same Gun (4 Weeks)) ($990, $990)
Virginia (53, 54): DPMS LR308: $900 (!) (Same Gun (9 Weeks)) ($900, $900)
Florida (73, 69): Rock River Arms LR308: $1,000 ($1,050 (2 Weeks), $1,000 (3 Weeks))

7.62x39mm (AK Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $558 Last Week Avg: $471 (+) ($558, $471 (2 Weeks))
California (51, 54): WASR: $550 (Same Gun (4 Weeks)) ($550, $550)
Texas (77, 76): Robinson Armament (Vepr AK): $630 ($630, $500 (2 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (49, 52): Modified Unknown Brand: $600 ($600, $480 (2 Weeks))
Virginia (83, 86): Czech VZ58: $525 ($525, $525)
Florida (118, 113): Zastava M70: $485 ($485, $300 (2 Weeks))

7.62x54mm (Dragunov Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $1,284 Last Week Avg: $1,082 (+) ($1,284, $1,017 (3 Weeks))
California (4, 0): Romak PSL: $2,000
Texas (2, 2): Romak PSL: $1,200 (Same Gun (6 weeks)) ($1,200, $1,200)
Pennsylvania (0, 2): None Available
Virginia (1, 2): Romak PSL: $650 (!) (Same Gun (8 Weeks)) ($650, $650)
Florida (0, 2): None Available

Pistols

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California (189, 193): Rock Island Armory: $400 ($400, $380 (3 Weeks))
Texas (242, 239): ATI FX45: $400 ($450 (3 Weeks), $375 (2 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (128, 127): Rock Island Armory: $400 ($400, $375 (2 Weeks))
Virginia (167, 164): American Tactical Imports: $400 ($425 (2 Weeks), $400 (3 Weeks))
Florida (366, 379): Tisas Zig: $350 ($425 (3 Weeks), $350)

9mm (Beretta 92FS or other Semiautomatic) Average Price: $319 Last Week Avg: $314 (+) ($335 (3 Weeks), $314 (2 Weeks))
California (156, 155): Sig Sauer P250: $300 (Same Gun (6 Weeks)) ($300, $300)
Texas (285, 279): Smith & Wesson SW9VE: $300 (2 Weeks) ($350 (3 Weeks), $300)
Pennsylvania (208, 205): Smith & Wesson SD9VE: $345 (Same Gun (2 Weeks) ($350 (3 Weeks), $345)
Virginia (240, 238): Ruger SR22: $325 ($350 (3 Weeks), $300 (2 Weeks))
Florida (445, 443): Ruger P89: $325 (5 Weeks) ($325, $325)

.40 caliber S&W (Glock or other semiautomatic) Average Price: $305 Last Week Avg: $300 (+) ($316 (3 Weeks), $300 (2 Weeks))
California (83, 87): Ruger P94: $275 ($350 (3 Weeks), $275)
Texas (162, 165): Smith & Wesson SD40VE: $350 ($350 (2 Weeks), $300 (3 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (133, 136): Smith & Wesson M&P 40: $300 (Same Gun (3 Weeks)) ($300, $300)
Virginia (105, 115): Smith & Wesson SD40VE: $300 (Same Gun (5 Weeks)) ($300, $300)
Florida (207, 215): Smith & Wesson SD40VE: $300 (Same Gun (3 Weeks)) ($300, $275 (4 Weeks))

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Posted by: badanov || 11/01/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The Cambridge police Pennsylvania state cops acted stupidly in arresting behaved horribly during the manhunt, when there was already proof that they were in their own home beating passersby and invading private residents looking for Frein.
Posted by: DepotGuy || 11/01/2014 12:54 Comments || Top||

#2  Other post aside, thanks bad.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 11/01/2014 23:56 Comments || Top||


Africa Subsaharan
Burkina Faso President Resigns, Military Chief Takes Over
[ONLINE.WSJ] The president of Burkina Faso
...The country in west Africa that they put where Upper Volta used to be. Its capital is Oogadooga, or something like that. Its president is currently Blaise Compaoré, who took office in 1987 and will leave office feet first, one way or the other...
resigned Friday after 27 years in power, abruptly swept from office by a popular revolt only to be immediately replaced by military rule and an uncertain political future.
Blaise had asked his legislature to pass a law allowing him to have a fifth term in office.
Blaise Compaoré, a reserved but influential leader in often chaotic West Africa, announced in a statement posted to his Twitter account that he was relinquishing the presidency and called for elections within 90 days. He then sped by car toward the country's southern borders with Ghana and Togo, said a French diplomat and a politician close to Mr. Compaoré.
Towing a U-Haul trailer stuffed with the national treasury...
The military's chief of staff, Gen. Nabéré Honoré Traoré declared himself the nation's leader in a statement published by the state-run news agency.
...and if you can't believe the state-run news agency who can you believe?...

"L'etat c'est moi now..."
It was a dispiriting twist for demonstrators who had thronged the streets of the capital Ouagadougou to demand the 63-year-old Mr. Compaoré step down from office then saw him replaced with a representative of the country's military.
They got what they wanted. Then they got more.
"I find it sad," said Amadou Yaro, a civil servant. "We had a democracy."
... where His Excellency the President had served four seven-year terms and was asking for a fifth. I'll give you a hint: He's got three acutes in his name..
The U.S. and La Belle France called on Mr. Compaoré's successors to respect the country's constitution, with French President François Hollande urging the "quick holding of democratic elections."
They always promise elections, don't they? Guess who gets to be president next.
Only days before his unexpected political eclipse, Mr. Compaoré seemed secure in office for as long he wished, confidently asking parliament to approve legislation Thursday allowing him to seek another five-year term as president.
He expected to leave feet-first.
Such legislation would have helped him ease his way into the ranks of African leaders such as Zim-bob-we's Bob Muggsy Mugabe
Octogenarian President-for-Life of Zim-bob-we who turned the former Breadbasket of Africa into the African Basket Case...
, Cameroon
...a long, narrow country that fills the space between Nigeria and Chad on the northeast, CAR to the southeast. Prior to incursions by Boko Haram nothing ever happened there...
's Paul Biya, and Angola's Jose Eduardo dos Santos, who have been in power for more than three decades.
Posted by: Fred || 11/01/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The military chief has competition.
Posted by: Pappy || 11/01/2014 11:30 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Riyadh governor orders anti-MERS push
[ARABNEWS] The Riyadh governorate is set to launch an awareness program on the dangers of the Middle East Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus (MERS-CoV), targeting camel breeders, schools, malls and King Khaled International Airport.

Riyadh Gov. Prince Turki bin Abdullah issued the directive during a meeting with senior health officials including Adnan Al-Abdulkareem, director general of the region's health department.

Al-Abdulkareem thanked Prince Turki for his concern and highlighted the various efforts underway to prevent the virus from spreading.

He said that treatment of people infected with the virus is taking place at the newly built Prince Mohammed bin Abdulaziz Hospital, designated by Acting Health Minister Adel Fakeih as the region's MERS center.

Al-Abdulkareem said that the directorate has formed 20 teams to conduct awareness sessions at schools, malls and King Khalid International Airport, to highlight its efforts to fight the virus, including how it spreads and preventative measures.

He said the teams are using print, broadcast and social media to spread the message.
Posted by: Fred || 11/01/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Its a perfect storm,,, mers and ebola outbreaking at the same time.

Mers appears only slightly less lethal. Not sure how contagious
Posted by: Anon1 || 11/01/2014 13:20 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
Marine Veteran To Be Released From Mexican Jail
[SanDiegoUnionTrib] A Mexican federal district judge in Tijuana on Friday ordered the immediate release of a U.S. Marine veteran behind bars in Baja Caliphornia, an impregnable bastion of the Democratic Party, on federal weapons charges.

Andrew Tahmooressi was on trial for crossing the border with ammunition and three loaded weapons on March 31. The Mexican Attorney General's Office agreed to cease its prosecution of Tahmooressi and allow him to return to the United States.

On Friday night, Tahmooressi was driven from El Hongo State Penitentiary east of Tecate to the San Diego border. The plan was to deliver him to the custody of Mexican immigration officials, who were expected to deport him to the United States.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/01/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [40 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Just in time for the Dems photo op. How typical of the corrupt Mexicans and Corrupt Obama administration. Where the hell has this been for the past MONTHS that this marine was unjustly in captivity?
Posted by: OldSpook || 11/01/2014 6:41 Comments || Top||

#2  It just so happened after Holder resigned? Nothing there right?
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/01/2014 7:35 Comments || Top||

#3  Photo op? Maybe, but the publicity will raise the question of why the F it took more than 6-months to get him back. The 'Pubs who got and kept the ball rolling and, of course, Greta VS, deserve the credit and this must be pushed.

Holder "resigned" but is still place-keeping until a substitute can be nominated and confirmed. The kerfuffle of his "resignation" merely sent the questions surrounding him "to ground.
Posted by: Ulosing Poodle7595 || 11/01/2014 9:10 Comments || Top||

#4  Seems too convenient just prior to the midterms.
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/01/2014 10:00 Comments || Top||

#5  This photo op seems more like a badge of shame. This should have had more federal attention long ago.
Posted by: gorb || 11/01/2014 10:25 Comments || Top||

#6  Wonder who paid for the Netjets charter ?
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/01/2014 10:31 Comments || Top||

#7  On August 11, 1984, United States President Ronald Reagan, while running for re-election, was preparing to make his weekly Saturday radio address. As a sound check prior to the address, Reagan made the following joke to the radio technicians: "My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia Mexico forever. We begin bombing in five minutes."

That should have been the approach to getting this Marine home immediately after he was put in the clink---if only we had a president, this might have happened.
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/01/2014 10:50 Comments || Top||

#8  Wonder who paid for the Netjets charter ?

From the article: He boarded a private jet provided by a foundation run by former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson for the flight to Florida.
Posted by: Pappy || 11/01/2014 11:33 Comments || Top||

#9  Yes, and there it clearly is.... for careless scanners or those with poor memory retention. Thanks!
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/01/2014 11:50 Comments || Top||

#10  You're welcome.

I know the State Department's M.O. is to basically leave a USCIT to the tender mercies of whatever the host nation justice system has in store for the USCIT.

What troubles me, besides the six months of inactivity, is that there's a few but vital contradictions in Tahmooressi's story. Something that might have been examined to see if the Mexican claims were valid, had there been a resident consul in T.J. to examine things.

I wonder what the Mexicans got out of this.
Posted by: Pappy || 11/01/2014 17:59 Comments || Top||

#11  I wonder what the Mexicans got out of this.
Posted by Pappy


Under normal circumstances, that could be labeled a bit cynical. With current regime in Washington however, it's literally the first thought that comes to mind.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/01/2014 19:24 Comments || Top||

#12  Thanks, bad
Posted by: swksvolFF || 11/01/2014 23:54 Comments || Top||


Europe
Hungary's Orban puts Internet tax on hold after huge protests
[NEWS.YAHOO] Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban froze plans on Friday to impose a tax on Internet traffic, climbing down in the face of massive street protests and warnings from the European Union
...the successor to the Holy Roman Empire, only without the Hapsburgs and the nifty uniforms and the dancing...
that the levy was a mistake.

Opponents of the tax, who said it would have hurt consumers already struggling with a faltering economy, described the U-turn as a major victory.

But Orban's announcement was unlikely to end discontent among liberal Hungarians who accuse him of being an autocrat and are frustrated there is no prospect of removing him until elections in 2018. Recent anti-tax rallies have been a catalyst for broader anti-government protests.

"This tax in its current form cannot be introduced," Orban told public radio. "If the people not only dislike something but also consider it unreasonable then it should not be done."
Posted by: Fred || 11/01/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Pure genius.
Posted by: gorb || 11/01/2014 10:26 Comments || Top||


Science & Technology
Operator deliberately destroyed NASA rocket last week
[Iran Press TV] The unmanned NASA rocket that went kaboom! off the coast of Virginia seconds after takeoff earlier this week was deliberately destroyed after it became clear there was a technical problem, the company that owns it says.

The Antares rocket, operated by Orbital Sciences Corp., crashed on Tuesday six seconds after liftoff from a commercial launch pad in Wallops Island, Virginia.

The cause of the kaboom has not been known yet but accident Sherlocks are looking closely at a potential first-stage engine problem in the crashed rocket that was on its way to the International Space Station, a $100 billion research complex that hovers about 260 miles (418 km) above Earth.

The NASA-contracted company said on its website that evidence indicates the problem began in the rocket's first-stage engine and that it "fell back to the ground impacting near, but not on, the launch pad."

"Prior to impacting the ground, the rocket's Flight Termination System was engaged by the designated official in the Wallops Range Control Center," Orbital said.

The crash destroyed a fat merchantman filled with 5,000 pounds (2,268 kg) of equipment and supplies for the International Space Station.
Posted by: Fred || 11/01/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Shoulda gone with the Estes engines rather than those cheapos from Tabant Motorwerks.
Posted by: SteveS || 11/01/2014 0:34 Comments || Top||

#2  Of course he blew the FTS after it started crashing. What point are the Iranian's trying to make? You wouldn't have a FTS if situations like that could not happen.

For there info.. most likely cause is ingestion of a foreign substance by the oxider turbopump. Betting is currently leaning toward the foreign substance being a piece of the turbopump itself.
After all its 40+ years old.
Posted by: 3dc || 11/01/2014 1:09 Comments || Top||

#3  Beats unintentionally destroying it.
Posted by: ed in texas || 11/01/2014 7:44 Comments || Top||

#4  Yes Iran, when your rocketry program advances past Photoshop 7, sending things up is all about getting it down where you want it, whether its landing the shuttle on the runway or making sure your broken Antares doesn't land in Roenoke.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 11/01/2014 14:26 Comments || Top||


Israel Develops A Maritime 'Iron Dome'
[IsraelTimes] Israel's "Iron Dome" is heading to the seas, the maker of the rocket-blocking defense system says.

State-owned defense contractor Rafael wants to leverage the system's much-vaunted success in protecting Israeli civilians in this summer's Gazoo war, hoping to draw navies as buyers for a new maritime version seen as especially useful in protecting national economic resources at sea like oil and gas platforms.

At this week's Euronaval conference near Gay Paree, Rafael unveiled "C-Dome," which endeavors to help combat vessels counteract any threats from the air, including missiles, helicopters and tiny unmanned drone aircraft, which could increasingly become tools of combat and reconnaissance at sea just as they have on land in recent years.
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/01/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  IMO Artic read, UNMANNED ANTI-NAVAL AERIAL ATTACK DRONES, ATTACK SUBMERSIBLES, + "SKHVAL"-BASED "TRANSFORMER" TORPEDOES.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 11/01/2014 1:05 Comments || Top||

#2  Sounds like they are reinventing the Aegis wheel.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/01/2014 18:08 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Is Obama’s Border Policy Responsible for the EV-D68 Viral Epidemic in U.S.?
The deadly EV-D68 enterovirus epidemic, which struck thousands of kids this fall, was likely propelled through America by President Barack Obama's decision to allow tens of thousands of Central Americans across the Texas border, according to a growing body of genetic and statistical evidence.

The evidence includes admissions from top health officials that the epidemic included multiple strains of the virus, and that it appeared simultaneously in multiple independent locations.
The question can be settled if federal researchers study the genetic fingerprint of the EV-D68 viruses that first hit kids in Colorado, Missouri and Illinois to see if they are close relatives to the EV-D68 viruses found in Central America.

Officials "have to do the genetic analysis" to disprove or prove the link, Nora Chapman, an enterovirus scientist at the University of Nebraska, told The Daily Caller.

But there's already more than enough statistical evidence for American citizens to demand that scientists test the viruses to see if Obama's progressive border priorities spread the dangerous contagion throughout the country during 2014.

So far, that virus has been found in nine American kids who died from illness, has apparently inflicted unprecedented polio-like paralysis in roughly 50 kids, and has put hundreds of young American kids into hospital emergency wards and intensive care units throughout more than 40 states.

A series of government researchers, health experts and academics refused to comment, or else urged self-censorship, when they were pressed by TheDC for statistical and scientific data that would exonerate Obama and his deputies.

"I would just steer away from that— it is not helpful, so why bring it up," said Lone Simonsen, a professor at George Washington University's Department of Global Health and the research director of the university's Global Epidemiology Program. "A better angle [is] 'We're just learning what this outbreak is all about,'" she told TheDC.

Columbia University researcher Rafal Tokarz, one of the nation's top experts on the EV-D68 virus, declined to comment to TheDC about the impact of Obama's border policies. "I cannot comment… and at this time it would not be appropriate for me to do so… I would really rather not comment," he said in email conversations.

The issue is dangerous for scientists because it could spike existing public opposition to the unpopular effort by Obama, Democrats and business-backed Republicans to increase the migration of foreign nationals — including many foreign scientists — into the United States. That inflow is a top priority for the Democratic leaders, who have the power to make life difficult for grant-dependent American scientists who discover politically damaging information.

That sensitivity showed up Oct. 16, when a top staffer for Rep. Luis Gutierrez, a champion of increased immigration from Latin America, denounced the evidence for an Obama-disease link: "Rush [Limbaugh], don't let facts dissuade you! Enterovirus outbreak likely not coming from immigrants," Guttierez communications director Douglas Rivlin tweeted, while linking to an article that tried to stigmatize investigations into any possible link.

On Oct. 29, The New York Times produced a vague article about EV-D68′s possible role in the paralysis cases, headlined "Doctors Mystified by Paralysis in Dozens of Children." The article quoted Mark Pallansch, who heads the viral diseases unit at the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, saying "we don't have a single clear hypothesis that's the leading one at this point." He also said that American kids have less than a one-in-a-million chance of being paralyzed. The Times ignored the possible link to Obama's border policy.

But public trust in government would nudge upward if there is strong scientific evidence against the widespread concern that Obama recklessly loosed the EV-D68 epidemic. The Snopes.com site tried to debunk the idea, but could only reject it as "problematic."

The EV-D68 controversy is a weaker version of the Ebola fight, where Obama has opposed stringent federal and state barriers to the arrival of foreign travelers who may be carrying Ebola. The EV-D68 virus is far, far less dangerous than Ebola, but it also may be harder to counter because it has now spread throughout the United States.

There is no vaccine for EV-D68, so health experts expect more victims.
The article illustrates the dangers of the politicization of science by politicians. In this case, this acts as censorship to finding the truth about wrongly-directed public policy for the purpose of hustling votes. Let's have genetic testing of the virus.
Full disclosure: I'm heavily involved in EV68 projects at my University.

Fact: EV68 has been in the U.S. since at least 2008, per CDC reports from 2011 and 2013. It's been around likely for longer than that. While I wouldn't discount the possibility of, er, "population shifts" allowing the virus to spread, this is a highly contagious virus, like other enteroviruses and rhinoviruses, and doesn't need much help.

It doesn't help our cause much to make wild accusations. We snicker at the progressives when they use science way out of context. We shouldn't do the same.
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/01/2014 09:12 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Headline should read "Is"
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/01/2014 9:31 Comments || Top||

#2  Yes. Next question.


Bet on if any of the unscreened illegals are in his children's classes?
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/01/2014 10:03 Comments || Top||

#3  "Yes"
Posted by: Frank G || 11/01/2014 10:19 Comments || Top||

#4  “I would just steer away from that— it is not helpful, so why bring it up."

Denial - when the chant of "Hope-n-change" doesn't fit.
Posted by: Ulosing Poodle7595 || 11/01/2014 14:03 Comments || Top||

#5  The plague was resident, and still remains in Central Asia. The locals had developed rituals and taboos that kept it from having a major impact outside of other influences (famine, pestilence, war). Occasionally it would make a brief appearance outside as in the Plague of Justinian. So there were 'detections' before it hit Europe again in the 1300s to kill over a 100 million with emphasis.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/01/2014 18:11 Comments || Top||

#6  Dr. Steve. We understand it was here before. The willful lack of transparency on where they are shifting these "children" and info on known vectors they bring across gives me/us NO confidence we haven't imported a whole lotta illness to American citizens for Democrat and PC political gain
Posted by: Frank G || 11/01/2014 21:11 Comments || Top||

#7  "I would just steer away from that— it is not helpful, so why bring it up,"

Au contraire. It is a very interesting question. Science is all about curiosity.

And while you would, indeed, need to sequence the virus both here and in Central America to definitively answer the question, just being able to plot the unusual number of outbreaks vs the locations where the illegals went would shed some light on the question.

I agree wild accusations do little good, but the fact that we can't seem to get the data on where the kids went and the fact that everyone seems to be running from the question does not inspire confidence.

Normally, an epidemic of kids getting sick, with some dying or ending up paralyzed would be major news. That it is not only adds to the suspicion.

Hey, isn't this just the sort of thing the Center for Disease Control & Prevention should be on top of?
Posted by: SteveS || 11/01/2014 22:50 Comments || Top||



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