Sources close to the negotiations engaged to free the two Austrian hostages in northern Mali said three Tuareg appointed to be as mediators between the Austrian Government and Abdelhamid Abu Zaid group have been assassinated up to now.
The military commander of Alliance for Change Movement, Hassan Fagaga told El Khabar negotiations engaged with kidnappers have started only few days ago, pointing they have been lead by 6 mediators familiar with northern Mali region, as required by Al-Qaeda chief of Sahara region, Abu Zaid. Some of the mediators taking part in the negotiations are originated from the Tuareg Alliance for Change rebel Movement being integrated in the Malian Army in accordance with Algiers Agreement sealed between Mali and Tuareg rebels last year. Three Tuareg mediators of the six have been assassinated until now, Fagaga further said.
El Khabar has asked Hassan Fagaga about student Mohamed Moussa who has been assassinated despite not being a mediator, commander Fagaga said: the killers have been told at first that mediator Baraka Cheikh was to be accompanied by Colonel Mohamed Oueld Midou. He added: while they saw Mohamed Moussa with Baraka Cheikh they thought he was Colonel Midou while decided killing them both. However, sources from Tuareg have accused Intelligence services depending on the Malian Army of plotting the assassination.
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Doesn't sound like they're too good at their jobs...
Seven Kuwaitis will be put on trial for allegedly sending a statement to Lebanese and Iranian television stations eulogizing slain Hezbollah militant Imad Mughniyeh, their lawyer said Tuesday. Prosecutors charged the men, who are all Shiite Muslims, with "spreading false news about the situation in the country" for sending the statement that "weakened the position of the state abroad," said defense attorney Abdul-Karim bin Haidar.
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F'r a minute I thought this was about Jimmy Carter.
An unemployed graphic designer who authorities believe was nearly killed by ricin was arrested Wednesday on federal charges that he possessed the deadly toxin as part of an "exotic idea," never carried out, to poison his enemies. Roger Bergendorff, who authorities allege began making ricin a decade ago, was arrested upon his release from the hospital where he had been treated since Feb. 14. He is charged with possession of a biological toxin and two weapons offenses stemming from materials authorities said were found Feb. 26 and Feb. 28 in his room at an extended-stay motel several blocks off the Las Vegas Strip.
"He was released from the hospital and he's in custody," said FBI agent Joseph Dickey, a spokesman for the bureau's Las Vegas office. The charges carry a possible penalty of 30 years in federal prison and a $750,000 fine. Bergendorff, 57, was scheduled to appear Wednesday afternoon before a federal judge in U.S. District Court in Las Vegas.
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SOOO-O-O-O, I gather we're NOT talking about PENN STATE???
Fighting erupted between loyalists of militant group Lashkar-e-Islam (LI) and men of the Kooki Khel tribe of the Khyber Agency on Wednesday, following three days of tension. At least 20 people had been killed in the clashes, Geo News reported. The two sides have started an exchange of fire, Rasool Khan, assistant political agent of the Jamrud subdivision, confirmed to Daily Times. A tribal elder from Jamrud, requesting anonymity, claimed that the government had done nothing to avert the clash, despite knowing of hostilities on both sides. Tensions in the Jamrud subdivision surfaced after Kooki Khel tribe refused to surrender to Baghs 30-point agenda.
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A jirga of Zakhakhel and Qambarkhel elders and Taliban leaders from Waziristan succeeded in arranging the release of four detained Taliban commanders on bail, participants said.
The Taliban commanders from the South Waziristan Agency had been held for destroying tankers carrying oil for coalition troops in Afghanistan, and abducting their drivers.
In exchange, the Taliban commanders handed back 50,000 gallons of petrol and two oil tankers to complainants in Landi Kotal (Khyber Agency) and released two abducted drivers.
Sixty people were injured and 40 oil tankers burnt after two explosions near the Torkham border four weeks ago.
Javed Ibrahim Paracha, chairman of the World Prisoners Relief Commission of Pakistan, headed the jirga at his residence. He told Daily Times he had been directed by Interior Affairs Adviser Rehman Malik and Interior Secretary Kamal Shah to organise the jirga to resolve the issue peacefully.
He said the jirga consisted of Waziristans Taliban commanders Mir Qasim Janikhel and Ishaq Wazir, and Zakhakhel and Qambarkhel elders including Nasir Khan and Khyber Khan.
Paracha said the Zakhakhel and Qambarkhel tribes had charged the four Taliban commanders from the Janikhel tribe, including Khalid Rehman, for destroying the oil tankers and abducting the drivers.
He said Karak police had arrested the Taliban commanders a few weeks ago and charged them with terrorism. Paracha said the jirga had ruled that the Qambarkhel and Zakhakhel tribes would take back their testimony against the Taliban commanders in the anti-terrorism court of Kohat, to allow their release on bail.
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Nuke pakistan. The new government isn't serious about fighting terrorists, and is willing to offer them sanctuary and support. An American general needs to tell the pakistanis that they either get their act together and put an end to the sanctuary behavior, or we will begin destroying villages in the "tribal areas" with napalm and ARCLIGHT strikes. Then follow through. When they get beligerant, nuke Rawalpindi, Islamabad, and every madrassah in the country. Use our cleanest nukes, so we can give half of what used to be pakiland to India, the other half to Afghanistan.
When someone's trying to burn down your house, you don't shoot spitballs at them, you use something that will be effective. Nothing less than what I've recommended will be effective in phakestan.
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Police claimed to have seized a suicide jacket, arms and ammunitions during a raid in Kanjoo area of Kabal tehsil of Swat on Wednesday.
One suicide jacket, two G-3 rifles, two LMG rifles, four military uniforms, six time bombs and a large number of bullets were recovered during the raid in Delai village, in-charge Kabal police station Sanobar Khan told Daily Times. He said militants had dumped explosives before fleeing the area. Meanwhile, unidentified assailants gunned down a man in Barikot bazaar of the district on Wednesday. Police said they had registered FIR against the attackers on the complaint of the deceaseds brother.
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Police claimed to have arrested four terrorists from across the country, Dawn News reported on Wednesday.
According to the channel, the Sialkot police arrested three suspected terrorists closely affiliated with the Taliban and Al Qaeda. The channel quoted Sialkot District Police Officer (DPO) Muhammad Amin as saying that the alleged terrorists were planning sectarian clashes in the city. Elsewhere, the Mansehra police arrested a most-wanted terrorist Muhammad Ali along with his two accomplices. Mansehra Senior Superintendent of Police Akhtar Hayat Khan told reporters that Ali was involved in several terrorist activities in Afghanistan, Pakistan and in the Tribal Areas. He said that Ali belonged to the banned militant outfit Jaish-e-Muhammad and ranked among the top eight most-wanted militants in Pakistan.
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the Mansehra police arrested a most-wanted terrorist Muhammad Ali
Has Cassius Clay turned to terrorism in his retirement?
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lol, I didn't even catch that, these names all run together for me I'm sorry to say. Most are Mohammad something or other.
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Muhammad Ali is probably a Shia, I'm thinkin'...
KHAR: One Levies soldier and a suspected Al Qaeda operative were killed and two Levies men seriously injured during a shootout in Bajaur Agency on Thursday. The body of the suspected Al Qaeda operative has been sent to CMH, Peshawar, for a DNA test for identification, sources told Daily Times. The man is believed to be Abu Marwan al-Suri.
On a tip-off, the Bajaur Agency political administration chased Marwans car on Nawagai Road and he responded with fire, sources said. Resultantly, Levies jawan Saleem was killed and two of his colleagues were injured, they added. The security force retaliated and killed the militant. They seized four hand grenades, a video camera, a diary written in Arabic, a CD mike, a recording of the funeral of those who were killed in an air strike on Dama Dola village earlier this year, a charger and childrens clothes from him, sources said.
Abu Marwan al-Suri was wanted by the United States and previously thought to have been killed months ago in a US air strike on Dama Dola village in Bajaur Agency. Officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Abu Marwan al-Suri was the head of Al Qaedas operations in Pakistans Waziristan tribal region. Military spokesman Major General Shaukat Sultan confirmed the shooting in Khar but had no details of the dead mans identity, other than that he appeared to be a foreigner. "Ain't from around these parts."
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ION WORLD NEWS > TERRORISM > THE OTHER GUANTANAMO [Diego Garcia?].
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Biker #2: I say we kill him!
Biker Gang: [shouts] Yeah!
Biker #3: I say we hang him, then we kill him!
Biker Gang: [shouts] Yeah!
Biker #4: I say we scalp him!
Biker Gang: [shouts] Yeah!
Biker #4: Then we tattoo him!
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Biker #4: Then we hang him!
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Biker #4: And then we kill him!
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QUETTA: Rockets were fired on security forces check-posts in Sangsela Chashma and Ghori Nullah areas of Dera Bugti areas on Thursday. Must have run out of pipelines and high voltage lines to attack.
Reports said that unidentified people also fired at check-posts in Kahan Karmode, an area in Kohlu. However, they fled after retaliation from security forces. There was no loss of life or property.
Security personnel also seized three anti-tank landmines from Pir Koh gas field and defused the explosive materials. Meanwhile, a Levies soldier was injured in a landmine blast in the Talango area of Kohlu.
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MIRANSHAH: Suspected pro-Taliban militants on Thursday ambushed a paramilitary forces convoy in North Waziristan, killing seven soldiers and wounding 22 others. Military spokesman Maj-Gen Shaukat Sultan said that Mohmand Rifles troops retaliated the militant attack and killed eight of them. The ambush is one of the deadliest since December last year when security forces and militants were exchanging fire on a regular basis.
The paramilitary forces convoy was heading for Razmak from Miranshah. When it reached Naryawala, 20 kilometres south of Miranshah, the suspected militants first exploded a bomb by a remote control that forced the convoy to stop and then attacked them with missiles and heavy weapons. Eight Mohmand Rifles troops were killed on the scene while 22 were injured. The injured were rushed to the Combined Military Hospital (CMH) in Bannu by helicopter.
Intelligence sources claimed that eight miscreants were also shot dead when the troops returned fire. Sources said that the militants took the bodies of their colleagues with them while fleeing. Local residents told Daily Times that the Razmak-Miranshah road had been closed to all kinds of traffic and helicopters were hovering over the area.
The ambush comes a week after five paramilitary soldiers were kidnapped near Razmak and purported spokesman for pro-Taliban militants Tariq Jamil accepted responsibility for the kidnapping. Sultan told Daily Times that constant attacks on paramilitary soldiers do not mean they were soft targets. This is not the case. What the militants are doing is they are attacking security forces when they move.
Separately, five paramilitary soldiers were injured late on Wednesday when a remote-controlled roadside bomb struck their vehicle in Spinwah village 40 kilometres northeast of Miranshah, AFP quoted a security official. Rockets were also fired at security forces in the nearby border town of Mir Ali early Thursday but caused no casualties.
Pakistan says it has deployed 80,000 troops in its lawless tribal belt to hunt militants who sneaked across the frontier after Afghanistans hardline Taliban regime was toppled by US-led forces in late 2001. Both North and South Waziristan have seen major clashes over the past two-and-a-half years. Fierce battles flared again last month, leaving around 250 insurgents and five soldiers dead, the military said.
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A suicide bomber struck a funeral in northern Iraq on Thursday, killing 50 mourners and wounding 55 in an attack that suggests militants have launched a new campaign of violence in the north.
Survivors said the funeral had been for two members of a U.S.-backed neighborhood security unit who were killed on Wednesday. Blame is likely to fall on the Sunni Islamist al Qaeda, which has vowed to target the neighborhood units because they work with U.S. forces.
The attack was one of the deadliest in Iraq for months and underscored the ability of militants to wreak havoc despite overall falls in violence that have prompted the United States to start withdrawing troops from Iraq.
Police said the bomber detonated a suicide vest after entering the funeral tent in a Sunni Arab village near the town of Adhaim in Diyala province. They put the final death toll at 50.
"Suddenly a fireball filled the funeral tent. I fell to the ground. I saw bodies scattered everywhere," said wounded mourner Ali Khalaf, who was taken to a hospital in the nearby town of Tuz Khurmato for treatment.
Outside a hospital in the northern city of Kirkuk, where pickup trucks took many of the bodies, frantic relatives gathered to look for their loves ones. Several women wearing black robes sat on the ground, wailing.
Northern Iraq has seen an upsurge in bombings this week, including one that killed 40 people in the town of Baquba, capital of Diyala province, on Tuesday.
The U.S.-backed neighborhood security units, called "Concerned Local Citizens" by the U.S. military, have been credited with helping to bring down violence in Iraq.
Around 90,000 men, mainly Sunni Arabs and including some former Sunni Arab insurgents who have turned against al Qaeda, have been recruited. They largely man checkpoints and provide intelligence tips to the U.S. military.
U.S. and Iraqi authorities say al Qaeda militants have moved into northern provinces after being pushed out of the westerly Anbar province, their former stronghold, and also Baghdad.
Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, in a speech during a trip to Brussels on Wednesday, said Iraq was "near to announcing victory over the terrorist organization al Qaeda."
But U.S. commanders say that while al Qaeda has been significantly weakened, it still has the capability to carry out big attacks.
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Well, this shoudl endear AQI to the locals. But the upsurge in bombings is an important reminder that these bugs need to be squashed and that the locals need to be on their toes uncovering this slime.
Fighting flared overnight in two key Shiite regions of Iraq, with four people killed early Wednesday in a U.S. airstrike in Basra and five others dying in battles in Baghdad's volatile northeastern region.
Also, in Mosul, the U.S. military said Wednesday it killed a senior leader of al Qaeda in Iraq and accidentally shot and killed a bystander during a clash with militants.
In the Basra violence, the U.S. military said an unmanned aerial vehicle early Wednesday launched a Hellfire missile at five insurgents firing rocket-propelled grenades at Iraqi soldiers. The Predator drone killed four "criminals" and wounded another in the Basra neighborhood Hayaniya -- a bastion of support for Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr's Mehdi Army militia. Another missile was fired at the insurgents' vehicle, thought to contain weapons and ammunition. A British military spokesman said there were no coalition casualties.
The strike comes during an Iraqi-led offensive in Basra targeting so-called "outlaws" in the city. Much of the fighting has involved security forces dominated by the Shiite party of the Islamic Supreme Council of Iraq fighting the Mehdi Army.
The offensive, dubbed Charge of the Knights, commenced March 25 and the fighting set off intra-Shiite rivalries in Baghdad and Shiite cities in southern Iraq. The clashes died down a few days after they started when al-Sadr told his followers to lay down their weapons, but the offensive has continued. Daily airstrikes and clashes have erupted every day for more than a week in northeastern Baghdad, including Sadr City -- the sprawling slum where the Mehdi Army holds sway.
In the latest fighting, two people were killed and 18 others wounded in Sadr City between 10 p.m. Tuesday and early morning Wednesday, an Interior Ministry official said. The official said the casualties were from airstrikes and battles. The official said a mortar shell fell on a house along Palestine Street in northeastern Baghdad, killing at least three civilians and wounding four others from the same family.
The performance of the Iraqi army in the fighting across the Shiite regions has drawn both praise and scrutiny. One issue that emerged in the Shiite region fighting was the poor performance of some of the Iraqi soldiers and police. The government fired 1,300 security forces in Basra and Kut for deserting their posts and laying down their arms.
The U.S. military confirmed a news report that a company of Iraqi soldiers retreated from their positions on Tuesday night in the Sadr City fighting and said the Baghdad Operations Command (BOC) will address the issue. The report, in The New York Times, said the "retreat left a crucial stretch of road on the front lines undefended for hours and led to a tense series of exchanges between American soldiers and about 50 Iraqi troops who were fleeing." The report said the troops were eventually replaced by an "elite Iraqi unit."
The fighting followed a day of violence in regions where Sunni militants have a strong presence. Bombings thought to be conducted by al Qaeda in Iraq militants killed at least 60 people and wounded more than 100 people across Iraq on Tuesday. The incidents took place in Baghdad, in Ramadi in western Iraq, and in Diyala and Mosul in northern Iraq.
In Wednesday's fighting in Mosul, the U.S. military said the senior al Qaeda in Iraq leader and the bystander died as U.S. troops clashed with militants there. Five other people were arrested in the incident, which began when insurgents shot at troops, which then returned fire, the military said. "As the ground force called for occupants of one building to surrender, a man came out and refused to put down his pistol despite repeated warnings from coalition forces and an interpreter," a military statement said.
"The armed man demonstrated hostile intent, forcing coalition forces to engage him, subsequently killing the man. A woman who was standing directly behind the terrorist was also killed when rounds passed through him, striking and fatally wounding her."
The U.S. military also reported the arrests of "13 suspected terrorists" Tuesday and Wednesday during operations in the Tigris River Valley and northwest Iraq. The detentions were made during operations targeting al Qaeda in Iraq.
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Click Linky and Enjoy The Beauty of God's Handiwork: A woman sits outside her home while Iraqi soldiers search it in the Shiite city of Karbala on Wednesday. <:)
Turkish warplanes fired on a group of Kurdish guerrillas in northern Iraq on Tuesday as they tried to enter Turkey, said the General Staff on Wednesday.
The General Staff said in a statement the warplanes had neutralised, generally meaning killed, the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) rebels in the Avasin-Basyan region of northern Iraq. PKK spokesman Ahmet Danees, who is based in northern Iraq, said Turkish forces had bombed for an hour in the Zagros mountains, but that there were no casualties among the PKK.
It was not possible to independently verify the reports. Ankara says thousands of separatist PKK rebels use a remote, mountainous part of northern Iraq as a base from which to stage attacks on targets inside Turkey.
Turkey staged an eight-day ground incursion against the PKK in February, sending thousands of troops backed by tanks, attack helicopters and jets into Iraq. The military said 240 rebels were killed in the campaign, along with 27 of its own men. That operation prompted concern in Washington about further regional instability and was watched closely in Turkeys financial markets. Our target is terrorism and only terrorism, and the operations were 100 percent successful, Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan told Al Jazeera television, adding, The operations have greatly boosted Turkeys security because the party [PKK] was planning attacks inside Turkey, so we secured the borders.
It was not clear when the interview was recorded and whether he was specifically referring to Tuesdays attack. Turkish warplanes and artillery have periodically bombed and shelled PKK positions in northern Iraq over several months, helped by intelligence provided by the United States.
Turkey blames the PKK for the deaths of nearly 40,000 people, mostly Kurds, since the group began its armed campaign for an ethnic homeland in southeast Turkey in 1984. Turkey, like the European Union and the United States, considers the PKK a terrorist organisation.
Turkish authorities usually step up their operations against the PKK in spring to prevent rebels crossing into Turkey when weather conditions improve. The General Staff said operations were also continuing in southeast Turkey, with two separate clashes on April 15. It said one rebel had been killed. The statement said numerous weapons and equipment used in making explosives had also been seized during those clashes.
Erdogan pledged last month that his government would invest up to $12 billion in southeast Turkey over a five-year period in an effort to drain support for the PKK. The government has pledged to allow a state television channel to broadcast in the Kurdish language. The EU, which Turkey hopes to join, has long urged Ankara to remove restrictions on the Kurdish language and culture.
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Reuters footage released on Wednesday shows the final moments of agency cameraman Fadel Shana as he films an IDF tank firing, moments before apparently being hit by the shell. Subsequent footage shows the Reuters jeep on fire, and Shana's body lying next to it. Shana's jeep was marked "press" and witnesses said the cameraman was wearing an identifying flak jacket.
Reuters Editor-in-Chief David Schlesinger has called for an investigation of Wednesday's incident. Why don't you come over Mr Schlesinger, and stand right in front of me? Yours cordially, the Tank.
Paleos occasionally use cameramen as spotters. Mayhaps Fadel was just a cameraman in the wrong place. Mayhaps not.
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Call me cynical, but I'm not convinced. Not only do Paleos occasionally use cameraman as spotters but their media manipulation skills have been well documented in the past.
You'll notice that when the footage first cuts to bodies of young men lying in blood on the street, it all looks a bit staged and fake to me. I wouldn't put it past them to have manufactured the entire incident out of thin air.
Then again, mistakes do happen in the field of battle. If you are concerned about being on the wrong end of a mistake, best you stay away.
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Ok, I've seen the vid, seems authentic; 2-3 random thoughts.
- The current arab-israeli war is a low intensity one; soldiers don't ask permission to fire their individual weapon, but firing a tank cannon probably is not something done on a whim and follow a chain of command. Therefore, the tank most likely didn't fire at those vehicles with an area weapon out of sheer jooooooooo-ish bloodlust, but because there was a reason for that (fire coming from there, a group of gunmen spotted in that spot,...?). Anyway, tank shells are expensive, especially specialized ones like that.
- The lawfare is already on, with calls to ban antipersonal tank shells, right on cue. Remember, warfare laws are only to be used by the tranzis and the commies/third-worldists to bind western powers. Freedom Fighters and non-western countries can do as they please, there never will be calls to ban suicide bombers going off in kiddies pizzeria.
- From that distance, the "press" markings were basically useless (and were they only visible from that angle?); besides, this has been demonstrated over and over, but local stringers in the middle east are NOT objective reporters (I won't dwell on the fact international reporters are not objective neither), but they are integral part of the local propaganda machinery, from the hizbollah, the plo, etc, etc... So, this paleostinian rooters cameran was not an independent observer, but a fighter, with his own kind of weapons. He's not an innocent journalo killed, but a palo fighter put to sleep.
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if the press continues to allow itself to be used as a weapon of war, rather than an observer, then it should not be surprised when it is treated as such.
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First thought - besides the whole drive up to the wounded being staged (little kid on the bike with what looks like a hollywood wound, motionless yet no real gore and nobody there to help but a dude taking pictures, bike looked fine, sandles looked awkwardly placed for such an event). Plus the intermingling of other shots from different instances.
I don't think having a little white square on the hood, offcenter, with 'TV' counts as clearly marked. The vehicle was not a bright color (dirty white), and had an off-roading outfit. Second, this vehicle pulls up and stops partially obscured by tree foliage and the road embankment, 3 dudes (I didn't see anyone in a flak jacket or anything which would tell tale mark them as press) get out 1 pulls a piece of equipment out and points it at the tank? I know what I would think if I were in the tank...3 man mobile anti-tank squad - and yeah you could rig up a cord and transmit back a screen shot however far. Lots of people there for just a quick jaunt out to the farm for some pics.
I don't see any evidence of terrorists around. Why would the tank be firing at a bunch of guys standing around? Perhaps the tank crew thought the white vehicle was a technical or something, the cameraman was a guy with an RPG, and the rest were a bunch of his buddies who wanted to witness the event.
I don't like it, but I understand it. Unless evidence to the contrary comes out.
I notice that while Paleos celebrate whenever a bus bus bombing goes off as planned and kills civilians at random, they cry their uvulas out whenever a situation which is tragic but understandable like this happens.
Move along. Nothing here to see until the bad guys put on uniforms and stop hiding amongst the civilians.
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(a) At certain angles a man with a professional TV camera looks just like a man with an AT missile launcher.
(b) Press markings on the jeep---these are Paleos.
(c) They shot him with co-ax.
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My question is, the video has a nice, clear shot of the tank and incoming round. The destroyed car is in a road in a gully. So... how did the round strike it? The tank shell stop in mid-air and drop straight to the ground?
Also, the other bodies on the ground look a little too intact for being right next the HP round impact site.
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Note the video camera toward the end of the vid. It looks like a round or shrapnel has gone through the lens, but the camera itself appears undamaged.
Not conclusive, but suggestive that some (or all) of the incident was staged.
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Note that the car is on a road with berms on both side that are above the height of the car. Unless the tank was either directly in front of or behind the car the tank should not have even been able to to see the car. And if the tank was in front it probably could not see the sign let alone read it. They were probably shooting at that "3 man AT crew" discussed before by g(r)omgoru
Fox just showed a slow-mo of the clip that shows a flechette anti-personnel round gong off. Nasty, effective. Destroyed the camera, they must have been able to save the memory.
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Just saw a news report where a flechette was seen on the xray of one of the injured. Looks like an air-burst AP round.
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Israel Military Industries has developed a 120mm APERS round and the more advanced 105mm and 120mm Anti-Personnel, Anti-Materiel (APAM) round, which is intended to defeat targets such as anti-tank teams.
The IDF is using a modified version of the M494 105mm APERS-T round provided by the USA in the 1970s. According to a US Army manual, the round is "designed for close-in assault against massed infantry assaults and for offensive fire against exposed enemy personnel".
In IDF service the M494 is fitted with the Reshef Technologies OMEGA M127 electronic fuze which is set before the round is fired. At the set range the forward section of the M494 round ruptures releasing approximately 5,000 small flechette darts and a dye marker. The flechettes are dispersed in a cone-shaped pattern which is 300m long and about 94m wide.
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I guess the question to ask is does the US ROE allow for the flechette in urban combat where civilians are in the locality.
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At certain angles a man with a professional TV camera looks just like a man with an AT missile launcher.
During my years with AFRTS, our cameramen were taught the same thing. I recall a poster showing a frontal view of a cameraman and a guy pointing a RPG side by side. Hard to tell the difference from a distance, especially under combat conditions.
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You are all forgetting..
Forgetting the latest anti-sniper equipment.
It looks for lenses by scanning a scene with a laser, picking up the reflection and then matching it to known sniper-scopes and targeting lenses.
10-1 the camera lens or one near it matches on on some weapon.
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These rounds are common - just about every US tank every tank carries them, among the munitions mix. US troops call them "beehive" rounds - 'lots of small stings. The photo of the dart (flechette) is exactly right.
It will all boil down to what the ROE were for the tank crew at the time.
The vehicle was obscured by the roadway berm - so if the "victims" were in the roadway, at positions shown, they would have been in defilade, and the cameraman unable to film. At minimum, the "victims" were ,moved from the berms slope to the roadway.
Cheap paleowood fakery of the situation. I would not be the least surprised if the bodies (or at lost the weapons) of several shooters were "sanitized" away from the scene.
This looks like a pretty happy kill to me.
Clue for cameramen: When you are in a war zone, at the front line of one side of the "discussion," then when a tank gun or artillery tube on the other side is pointed directly at you, you are advised to take cover or un-ass the area.
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LR - good analysis - I concur. Pallywood's lost their credibility for most objective observers, and I'm becoming less and less objective with each fraud "atrocity", f*ck em and their enabling "media"
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Islamic Jihad said one of the gunmen killed was Bilal Komel, 25, a commander long-wanted by the army. The second was identified as 19-year-old Ayed Zakarna. Two pounds of white raisins coming up
Israeli forces killed 14 Palestinians, most of them civilians, in the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip on Wednesday after three Israeli soldiers died in an ambush by Hamas fighters near a border fuel pipeline.
Despite the heaviest fighting in more than a month, Israel allowed European-funded fuel into Gaza to keep its only power plant operational. "The fuel has started to go through," said the European Union official, referring to the Nahal Oz terminal, close to the scene of clashes in which the three soldiers died.
Fourteen Palestinians, at least nine of them civilians, were killed in separate Israeli attacks including air strikes, Hamas and medical officials said. They said the dead included three youths, a 67-year-old man, and at least four Hamas gunmen. Nahal Oz was shut down by Israel on April 9 after militants killed two Israeli civilians at the facility. Israel's Defence Ministry had said it would reopen the pipeline on Wednesday, but the latest attack had raised doubts fuel would flow again soon.
Kanan Abaid, deputy chairman of the Palestinian Energy Authority in the Gaza Strip, said before pumping resumed that the power plant only had enough fuel to operate until Saturday.
The EU official said the goal was to provide "as much (fuel) as can be possibly be pumped today" because the army had yet to tell the Europeans whether they would be allowed to make further deliveries to the plant on Thursday and Friday. The plant supplies power mainly to residents of Gaza City and its surrounding areas, home to 800,000 people.
Israeli officials accuse Hamas of preventing distribution of petrol and diesel in order to create a crisis to pressure Israel to ease a blockade it tightened after the Islamist group seized control of the territory in June. A strike by Gaza petrol station owners has been preventing distribution of limited Israeli supplies of gasoline and diesel to the general public.
In a development likely to stoke further anger in Israel, Hamas said former U.S. President Jimmy Carter, who planned to travel later in the day to Egypt, would meet in Cairo with two of its Gaza-based leaders, Warty Nose Mahmoud al-Zahar and Saeed Seyam. "Mr Carter asked for the meeting. He wanted to hear the Hamas vision regarding the situation, and we are interested in clarifying our position and emphasising the rights of our people," Hamas official Ayman Taha said. Carter's delegation in Israel declined to comment. Zahar, speaking in Gaza before leaving for Egypt, said Carter had been able "to break all the restrictions preventing him from meeting Hamas leaders".
Israeli leaders have shunned Carter over his contacts with Hamas, which has rejected Western demands to recognise Israel, renounce violence and accept existing Israeli-Palestinian interim peace deals. Carter, who began a Middle East visit on Sunday, said in Arab East Jerusalem it would be counterproductive to exclude Hamas completely from "conversations or consultations".
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Why don't the Israeli's just blow up Nahal Oz?
Might be worth it just to save them from the aggravation of their seething neighbors...
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#1: Why don't the Israeli's just blow up Nahal Oz? Might be worth it just to save them from the aggravation of their seething neighbors...
Why don't the Israeli's just blow up Gaza?
Might be worth it just to save them from the aggravation of their seething neighbors...
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so the IDF was patrolling the pipeline while arrangements were getting ready to resume giving the Gazadogs fuel, and they shot them. Seems to me the pipeline needs to go down for extensive maintenace and the date of new deliveries is 'unknown'.
Bastards, yet is the Israelis fault, again.
GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip - Palestinian militants ambushed an Israeli ground force in the northern Gaza Strip on Wednesday, killing three soldiers in a clash that prompted Israel to delay the resumption of crucial fuel deliveries to the impoverished Palestinian area. Four Hamas gunmen also were killed in separate clashes.
Intense battles took place throughout Gaza on Wednesday, making it one of the bloodiest days of fighting since Israel ended a military offensive in early April. At least five Palestinians and three soldiers were wounded, according to Hamas and the army, further straining Egyptian efforts to mediate a cease-fire. Throughout the fighting, Palestinians fired rockets and mortar shells toward southern Israel, Israels army said, though no civilian casualties were reported.
The soldiers were killed after troops spotted two Hamas militants planting a bomb near the Israeli border. Troops pursued the militants, only to fall into an ambush by another Hamas force lying in wait, Israeli defense officials said. The Israeli soldiers were killed near the Nahal Oz terminal used by Israel to pump fuel into Gaza.
The officials said the attack wasnt expected to lead to an escalation in Israels military policy of targeting militants with pinpoint airstrikes and raids.
Pity.
We were supposed to resupply the fuel beginning today, said army spokeswoman Maj. Avital Leibovich. We didnt because of this event in this area. ... At this point the supply will not be renewed today.
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Resume fuel deliveries only when construction of the third Temple on the mount is complete.
One soldier was killed in a bomb attack in Yala Thursday morning while two villagers were killed in Pattani.
Four soldiers were on patrol in Yala municipality when a roadside bomb exploded at 6.30am. Sergeant Wichai Wongphet, seriously wounded, was rushed to hospital but died en route. According to the initial investigation, Sgt. Wichai was close by when the five-kilogramme bomb was detonated by remote control. Two hours later, a second bomb exploded in Yala's Than To district but no one was injured.
In Pattani's Nong Chik district, villager Prayuk Chunting was gunned down Thursday as he rode a motorcycle not far from where a shrimp farm manager was killed Wednesday. The head of Suppavit Mitchan, a manager of a shrimp farm was found. Mr. Suppavit was killed and then beheaded, on Wednesday, but his head had been carried off and was not found when the authorities arrived to investigate.
Elsewhere in Nong Chik, two defence volunteers were wounded in a bombing on Thursday morning. The bomb was activated by a mobile phone.
THE police and military authorities in Zamboanga City disclosed that one of the three suspects in last Sunday's bombings in the city is a bomb expert of the al-Qaeda-linked Abu Sayyaf bandits. Superintendent Jonathan Perez, officer-in-charge of the Zamboanga City Police Office on Wednesday made the announcement after the identity of one of the three suspects has been established through the joint efforts of his office, 9th Regional Mobile Group (9thRMG)) led by Senior Superintendent Lurimer Detran and Task Force Zamboanga (TFZ) headed by Colonel Darwin Guerra.
Perez identified one of the suspects in last Sunday's bombing as Joel Salem alias Abu Madja, an Abu Sayyaf bomb expert. Perez said Salem's identity was established following an intelligence fusion by the police and military forces stationed in Zamboanga City. He said Salem is under the group of Isnilon Hapilon, one of the bandit leaders wanted by the US government for the killing and kidnapping of two American citizens in 2001. Citing intelligence report, Perez disclosed that Salem has undergone explosive-making training in Central Mindanao and Sulu provinces. He said Salem and some companions were spotted sometime in February this year in one of the malls downtown "apparently looking for possible targets."
One of Salem's companions was arrested last month by operatives of the Criminal Investigation and Detection Group (CIDG) in front of the Philippine National Red Cross-Zamboanga City chapter compound along Pettit Barracks downtown, Perez said. He added that composite police and military teams were deployed to hunt Salem and his cohorts, while appropriate charges will be filed against the suspects. "They have no place in Zamboanga City," Perez added.
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Sources close to the negotiations engaged to free the two Austrian hostages in northern Mali said three Tuareg appointed to be as mediators between the Austrian Government and Abdelhamid Abu Zaid group have been assassinated up to now.
An unemployed graphic designer who authorities believe was nearly killed by ricin was arrested Wednesday on federal charges that he possessed the deadly toxin as part of an "exotic idea," never carried out, to poison his enemies. Roger Bergendorff, who authorities allege began making ricin a decade ago, was arrested upon his release from the hospital where he had been treated since Feb. 14. He is charged with possession of a biological toxin and two weapons offenses stemming from materials authorities said were found Feb. 26 and Feb. 28 in his room at an extended-stay motel several blocks off the Las Vegas Strip.
Fighting erupted between loyalists of militant group Lashkar-e-Islam (LI) and men of the Kooki Khel tribe of the Khyber Agency on Wednesday, following three days of tension. At least 20 people had been killed in the clashes, Geo News reported. The two sides have started an exchange of fire, Rasool Khan, assistant political agent of the Jamrud subdivision, confirmed to Daily Times. A tribal elder from Jamrud, requesting anonymity, claimed that the government had done nothing to avert the clash, despite knowing of hostilities on both sides. Tensions in the Jamrud subdivision surfaced after Kooki Khel tribe refused to surrender to Baghs 30-point agenda.
A jirga of Zakhakhel and Qambarkhel elders and Taliban leaders from Waziristan succeeded in arranging the release of four detained Taliban commanders on bail, participants said. 
QUETTA: Rockets were fired on security forces check-posts in Sangsela Chashma and Ghori Nullah areas of Dera Bugti areas on Thursday. 
A suicide bomber struck a funeral in northern Iraq on Thursday, killing 50 mourners and wounding 55 in an attack that suggests militants have launched a new campaign of violence in the north. 
Fighting flared overnight in two key Shiite regions of Iraq, with four people killed early Wednesday in a U.S. airstrike in Basra and five others dying in battles in Baghdad's volatile northeastern region.
Israeli forces killed 14 Palestinians, most of them civilians, in the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip on Wednesday after three Israeli soldiers died in an ambush by Hamas fighters near a border fuel pipeline.
GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip - Palestinian militants ambushed an Israeli ground force in the northern Gaza Strip on Wednesday, killing three soldiers in a clash that prompted Israel to delay the resumption of crucial fuel deliveries to the impoverished Palestinian area. Four Hamas gunmen also were killed in separate clashes.
THE police and military authorities in Zamboanga City disclosed that one of the three suspects in last Sunday's bombings in the city is a bomb expert of the al-Qaeda-linked Abu Sayyaf bandits. Superintendent Jonathan Perez, officer-in-charge of the Zamboanga City Police Office on Wednesday made the announcement after the identity of one of the three suspects has been established through the joint efforts of his office, 9th Regional Mobile Group (9thRMG)) led by Senior Superintendent Lurimer Detran and Task Force Zamboanga (TFZ) headed by Colonel Darwin Guerra. 
