Hold him
Tie the arms behind his back
And bandage his legs together
Just by the ankles
Blindfold the punk
So that he won't hesitate as much
For on seeing the sharp pointy knife
He'll begin to shake
And continuously scream like an eedyat
And jiggle like a jelly
Trust methis will sure get you angry
Its better to have at least two or three brothers by your side
Reading the poem above, what do you feel? Do you feel instigated to commit an act of terror, or do you feel disgusted?
Spit
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I envision this poem being read to a room full of jihadi beatniks in berets and bomb belts who snap their fingers when it's over and say "Heavy, man."
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Reading the poem above, what do you feel? Do you feel instigated to commit an act of terror, or do you feel disgusted?
Neither, I feel the "Artist" should be heavily seated, confined to a 6X6 room, and hungby the neck until dead (No Drop), either that or be forced to participate in a live demonstration, as The beheaded "Participant".
Comment, when given two unpleasant choices, think of a third, fourth, etc. Do NOT fall into this trap of only using the choices provided.
Remember the old question
Did you beat your wife again this morning, answer yes, or no.
Either answer makes you confess to beating your wife, whether or not that's true.
AVOID TRICK QUESTIONS.
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01/07/2008 14:43 Comments ||
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This poem (actually the poem is longer than what is posted above) is an issue in a criminal case in England.
#6
Thanks M. The link takes you to the full poem, if you can call it that. It's by Samina Malik who called herself a "lyrical terrorist." What is very troubling is that she works in a store in London's Heathrow Airport. Nah, no chance that could be a problem. Atually is sounds like the Minneapolis airport as far as the number of Muslims there.
Her friends set up Web sites and blogs condemning her arrest and deliberately tried to provoke authorities by downloading al Qaeda manuals and outlining methods to kill President Bush with depleted uranium bombs
#7
Hey, it's just a metaphor, right? Just a political statement, satire, right? Right? Hey, it's just a joke? Come on, it's a joke, let's laugh about it, what ya say? What are you doing with that roll of duct tape? What's with the knife? AAAAARRRRRGGGGGGG! *gurgle*
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Here's an (old) answer to the poem and to happy little head choppers everywhere. (warning: strong language)
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Google has opinions, DMFD.
One of the commenters there mentioned he uses the site often for dawa (outreach to the infidels with intent to convert), and the presence of the poem on the site is going to make things more difficult for him. So it's a good the poem was posted. Especially since if we here at Rantburg already know about it, so does enough of the on-line Muslim community, and they should be forced to answer questions about why the poem was written, and why Islam Online felt pressed to ask the question.
A senior al Qaeda commander has been reported to have been captured in the Pakistani city of Lahore, according to a Pakistani newspaper. Dr. Amin al Haq, the security coordinator of Osama bin Ladens Black Guard, was apprehended from Lahore couple of days back, The Nation reported, citing credible Afghan sources. Al Haq is said to be under interrogation at an undisclosed location.
The report of al Haqs capture has not been confirmed, a senior intelligence official told The Long War Journal. US intelligence agencies are aware of the report.
Al Haq has a long pedigree with both the Taliban and al Qaeda. He was born in Afghanistan's Nangarhar province, was educated as a physician, and practiced medicine in Pakistan. He was associated with Hizb-e-Islami Afghanistan headed by late Maulvi Younas Khalis, which joined the Taliban Movement in 1996, The Nation reported. He was also part of the Afghan delegation flown to Sudan in 1996 to bring Osama bin Laden to Afghanistan.
On Dec. 19, 2000, al Haq was identified as a senior member of al Qaeda per United Nations resolution 1267. He accompanied Osama bin Laden during the 2001 battle at Tora Bora in Nangarhar province, and helped senior al Qaeda leaders escape the US and Afghan militia assault on the cave complex. During renewed fighting at Tora Bora in the summer of 2007, al Haq was reported to have been wounded and fled across the border into Pakistan's Kurram tribal agency.
As security coordinator for the Black Guard, it is believed al Haq would be in close proximity to Osama bin Laden. US intelligence believes Osama bin Laden is hiding in Pakistans tribal agencies, a claim the Pakistani government has denied. Many of the senior al Qaeda leader captured in Pakistan since Sept. 11, including Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and Abu Musab al Suri, have been detained in Pakistans major cities.
The last I heard, which was awhile ago, Binny was holed up in Chitral. However, I also believe he travels with relative freedom throughout Pakistain and at any given time he's as likely to be in Lahore or Peshawar or Multan as he is to be in Chitral.
Several senior al Qaeda leaders -- such as Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Saif al Adel, and Walid bin Attash -- rose through the ranks in al Qaeda by serving in the Black Guard. A Special Forces raid against the Black Guard camp in Danda Saidgai in North Waziristan, Pakistan in March 2006 resulted in the death of Imam Asad and several dozen members of the Black Guard. Asad was the camp commander, a senior Chechen al Qaeda commander, and associate of Shamil Basayev, the Chechen al Qaeda leader killed by Russian security forces in July 2006.
#4
Here goes... "I question the timing". I am hoping the NYT/CIA overt ops leak about moving into the Wazoo is connected to this and, obviously, the Bhutto assassination. I expect the ISI could put their hands on almost any of these guys whenever they want to.
#9
Doc, Binny and "that crazy American kid" are hiding out in some TV studio off Hollywood and Vine living off hand-outs from Sean Penn, George Clooney and Susan Sarandon. The same people who hoaxed up the moon landing are the same ones behind this whole AQ thing. It just doesn't make sense, never has and never will. If we would only stay home and not bother anyone outside our borders we'd all be better off.
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Why should any reasonable person not believe that Bin Laden is already dead? After all of these years, his "appearances" become less and less frequent and the technology involved moves BACKWARDS rather than forwards ("still" photos with voiceovers of questionable origin rather than actual video).
#12
agree with Crusader. He's dead, but I really have no problem with him not being afforded martyr status. I think he'd be really bummed to know that he's being reduced to comic appeareances along side the American Dork.
PESHAWAR, Pakistan - A bomb blast outside a music shop and hair salon in northwestern Pakistan killed a security guard early Sunday, police said. The blast in the Sheikh Mohammadi suburb of Peshawar, the capital of North West Frontier Province bordering Afghanistan, took place around 4:00 am (2300 GMT).
Unknown militants planted a bomb outside a music centre and a barber shop and the blast destroyed the shops and injured a security guard posted outside, police official Farhad Khan told AFP. The guard later succumbed to his wounds in Lady Reading hospital.
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When we capture these people we should force them to listen to the Beatles.
#4
Gregorian chants are in their own way glorious and calming.
Not if they're recorded at 33 1/3 RPM, played back at 45 RPM, backwards, in Japanese, at 220 dB. Ya gotta think outside the box, TW.
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Gregorian chants are in their own way glorious and calming.
Not to Muslims, being forced to listen to another religion's hymns and music(With NO chance of drowning it out with their own caterwauling) endlessly is what makes this torture
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I forgot, the lights must remain on the whole time, no dimming at night armored so they can't be broken, then their time to pray sense is fouled up, any bulbs out should be replaced immediately, and kept on a semi bright-twilight setting, that should destroy their "Programming" thoroughly.
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Ya gotta think outside the box, TW
You're much more creative than I, Old Patriot dear. So I'll leave it to you and the others, while I put another carrot cake in the oven and start a pot of tea. ;-) (Does anyone remember James Cagney in the classic film One, Two, Three -- about the Coca Cola executive based in Berlin before the Wall went up?)
Security forces on Sunday set up two security posts at Renai Bridge and Arkot areas of Matta tehsil in Swat district as part of efforts to restore writ of the government in the troubled valley, sources said. Tough security measures were being taken to avoid any attack by militants on the security forces.
Also on Sunday, people gathered at different points to welcome troops in their areas.
They chanted Pakistan Zindabad! and Pak Army Zindabad! as the troops advanced from Matta.
They chanted Pakistan Zindabad! and Pak Army Zindabad! as the troops advanced from Matta.
Meanwhile, curfew was relaxed in Matta, Kabal and areas between Mingora and Kalam from 7am till 6pm on Sunday. Most shops and markets in Mingora, Barikot and Khwazakhela remained open and people were seen shopping despite rain and severe cold.
Separately, Maulana Fazlullah asked his followers to attack security forces without waiting for his orders, reported Dawn News. In a sermon on his illegal FM radio on Sunday, Fazlullah told his followers to blow themselves up upon meeting security forces.
Whoa. Now there's a well-thought out plan.
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A suicide bomb exploded Sunday amid an Army Day celebration in central Baghdad, killing at least 11 people and wounding 17, an Interior Ministry official said.
The bomb attack occurred about 12:30 p.m. Sunday as people participated in an event called "The Gathering for Iraq" in the Karrada district of central Baghdad, the official said, as soldiers and civilians were being given gifts by a nongovernmental organization. Two Iraqi soldiers were killed when they tried to thwart the attack by throwing themselves on the bomber who had slipped into the crowd, The Associated Press reports.
The bomber detonated his explosives vest, and killed an additional nine people, including three police officers and four civilians, an Interior Ministry official told CNN. "These two Iraqi martyrs gave their lives so that others might live," according to a statement issued by the U.S. military, the AP reports.
I take absolutely no issue with the use of the term "martyrs." They were good men and brave, and I hope there is an appropriate reward for them in the afterlife.
Also on Sunday, gunmen shot to death a Shiite tribal sheik active in an effort to counter militias in his northeastern Baghdad neighborhood, Iraqi officials said. Ismaiel Abbas was killed instantly when gunmen in two cars attacked him near his home in the Shaab Shiite neighborhood at 8 a.m., an Interior Ministry official said. Witnesses told investigators the gunmen were Shiite militia, but police are still investigating, the official said. Sheik Abbas was part of an effort to form an armed group to combat militias in his neighborhood, the official said.
A third attack Sunday involved a parked bomb which killed four, including a police officer, in northeast Baghdad Sunday afternoon, the Interior Ministry official said. Eleven others were wounded when the bomb exploded near an Iraqi police patrol on a crowded street in the Qahira neighborhood.
In the Nahda commercial area in central Baghdad, one civilian was killed and four others wounded when another car bomb exploded about 2:30 p.m. local time. An Interior Ministry official said that the explosion was followed by four mortar rounds attacks in the same area and damaged 15 civilian cars, but there were no other causalities.
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I take absolutely no issue with the use of the term "martyrs." They were good men and brave, and I hope there is an appropriate reward for them in the afterlife.
Agreed. This has given me more hope for the Iraqi army than I've had in a long time.
GAZA CITY - Three Palestinians including a teenager were killed on Sunday in the latest Israeli military operation in the Hamas-run Gaza Strip, Palestinian medics said.
Ziad Abu Raqba, 17, died after being shot in the chest during an incursion east of the Al Bureij refugee camp in the centre of the territory, they said, adding that he was not a member of a militant group.
"No, no, certainly not! He was just a simple lad. A simple lad with an automatic weapon."
Four other people were wounded during the operation that involved Israeli jeeps, armoured vehicles and bulldozers backed by helicopters, they said.
Later on Sunday a missile slammed into a house east of Al Bureij, killing two people and wounding six, medics said. It was not immediately clear whether the two were fighters or civilians. An Israeli army spokeswoman said she was looking into the incident.
But not for long. Dinner's at six.
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Great pic!
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An insult to Man's best friend, this picture is!
Seven police officers have been arrested for allegedly spying for Muslim terrorists insurgents in the three southern border provinces, a well-informed police source said Monday. The source said the seven officers were arrested following the arrest of three army intelligence officers.
The source said the seven police offices and three army officers were suspected of providing all details of operations to Muslim terrorists insurgents. The seven police officers have been being detained and interrogated at the army base in Pattani. All of the ten officers are Muslims.
Five Iranian Revolutionary Guard speedboats took threatening actions toward three U.S. Navy gunships sailing in the Strait of Hormuz on Sunday, FOX News has confirmed.
The U.S. gunships -- a cruiser, a frigate and a destroyer -- took defensive action to avoid striking the close by Iranian ships, and armed their weapons, but neither side fired any shots.
The Iranian boats reportedly came within 200 yards of the U.S. ships, and also threw boxes into the water ahead of the U.S. boats. It could not immediately be determined what was in the boxes.
Tensions between the United States and Iran remain high. Last year, Revolutionary Guard boats intercepted a British vessel, holding naval servicemen aboard the vessel for several days before releasing them.
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i would say throwing the boxes into the water would have been a hostile action hence blow them the fuck out of the water
#2
Sinse - makes sense. Another reply makes sense also.
The key word in the report seems to be "immediately". Intersting to see what is in the "boxes". I suspect this was a fairly naked test of the ROE by the persians, USN response capacity, and retrieval of the boxes which likely contained nothing of note.
The video will be useful when we compare to the upcoming video of the phalanx system activating and the follow on strike at the "box" factory.
#3
I would inform Iran that our "no go" area for our ships would be 1 km and if they came closer they would be engaged and destroyed. Then, if they even stuck their big toe over by a meter, the boats go bye-bye.
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The Persians have explicitly threatened swarm tactics. I see no advantage in allowing this sort of provocation to continue. Time and again it has been shown that even a modicum of force produces big results. These vessels should all have been destroyed long before they had a chance to test their box deployment.
The ROE must be changed. More important, we need to elect leaders who are prepared to allow our armed forces the latitude to protect themselves and defend us all.
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I doubt an American naval commander will let his ship or crew be humiliated the way the Brits did. I hope the iranian seamen's widders an' orphans fund is paid up...
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What kind of ROE allows the enemy to get within 200 yards of your ship? Is it just me or is 200 yards very close?
The ROE needs to acknowledge that we are in a de-facto war with Iran and have been for thirty years. These boats should have been blown out of the water before they got within half a mile.
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I have some good commentary: It is time to refer back to how things were handled when Ronald Regan was running the show. Reference: Operation Praying Mantis
'Really superb video clip at: http://www.navybook.com/nohigherhonor/vid-prayingmantis.shtml
It must have been memorable for the crew of the American ship that delivered the US response. Quoting the Commander as he hailed the Iranian ship (and this is in the video clip):
"This is a warning. Stop, and abandon ship. I intend to sink you..."
Watching and listening to this clip, every single word sounds EXACTLY appropriate to the current situation.
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I have some good commentary: It is time to refer back to how things were handled when Ronald Regan was running the show. Reference: Operation Praying Mantis
I have some good commentary as well: look at the background of Operation Praying Mantis. Bit different situation than the present one.
Yes, it was intended to start something. But those who've been through the drill ought to recall what the 'limitations' are.
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Where's the diplomacy here, and by that I mean the preparation-to-fire-for-effect diplomacy. We should have a canned reply reciting UN positions, Law of the Sea interpretations, and response ratcheting up the transit lanes and clearances - namely 200 yards is way to close, for the next month let's try 2nm in radius, and negotiate further protocol after that works. All of this coordinated with the GCC, Lloyd's parties, and non-military maritime interests.
Is anyone at the State Dept. handling this? Are they lined up at the major studios, domestic and foreign? Huh?
#20
Pappy - I'm not sure what you're driving at - but our commanders in the Gulf can either have an outcome like the USS Samuel B. Roberts - or they can have an outcome like the USS Simpson - or they can have no outcome of significance.
Our military is always allowed to exercise self defense - the question here is: How aggressively are we allowed to practice self-defense in a mine-laying situation?
#21
From experience, there is actually little that can be done outside of 200yds against small quick moving craft. The guns that were manned are .50 cal and 25mm chain guns. Its hard to hit a target much further then that with them in those situations. I don't want to start a "gun statistics" debate, but from actually being there and knowing how much (little) training they get shooting them, not much more could have been done or expecte. Why else do you think the Iranians turned around at that "magical" range?
The Captain and crew did it right.
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The Iranians say, "Move it along, nuthin to see here"...
Iran plays down Gulf incident with US
TEHRAN, Iran - Iran's Foreign Ministry said Monday that a confrontation between Iranian boats and U.S. Navy ships in the Persian Gulf over the weekend was "something normal" and was resolved. It suggested the Iranian boats had not recognized the U.S. vessels.
The Pentagon said that in the incident early Sunday, five small Iranian boats repeatedly "charged" U.S. warships in the Gulf's Hormuz Strait and dropped boxes in the water. The boats warned the U.S. ships that they would set up "explosions," a U.S. Defense Department official said.
The U.S. craft were on the verge of opening fire when the Iranian boats fled, the official said, calling the incidident "the most serious provocation of its sort" in the Gulf. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak on the record.
But Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammed Ali Hosseini played down the incident, suggesting it was an issue of mistaken identity. He did not comment on the U.S. claims of the Iranian boats' actions.
"That is something normal that takes place every now and then for each party, and it (the problem) is settled after identification of the two parties," he told the state news agency IRNA.
The incident was "similar to past ones" that were resolved "once the two sides recognized each other."
U.S. Navy and Iranian officials have said in the past that vessels from the two rival nations frequently come into contact in the waters of the narrow, heavily trafficked Gulf. They often communicate by radio to avoid incidents.
But the latest incident was the first time U.S. officials have spoken of such a direct threat from Iranian boats.
Mistaken identity? Might wanna tell the Iranians that people die of that all the time...
#23
How the f*ck do they mistake a US warship for anything else, other than another country's warships? Did they think that they were a approaching an oil tanker and only turned away at 200 yards when they suddenly realized it was a warship?
The US should declare a cordon sanitaire around all US warships of about 2 nm. ANYTHING that approaches closer than that, without permission, should be fired upon.
#24
An RPG will go 1000 yards before the self destruct detonates. Accurately hitting something at that range, even as large as a ship, from a bobbing boat is another matter. But luck is just as good as skill.
The Phalanx has a range of several kilometers and even the remotely operated 25mm chain guns are stabilized and, I guess, good for at least 2 km against small boats.
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Is anyone at the State Dept. handling this?
While I have little confidence in what they'll ultimately come up with, Fox news reported that the DoS is "working on it".
That they didn't have something in the can is a little disappointing.
Then again, I'm perpetually disappointed with our Bottom Foggers.
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Problem is the ships are not in any territorial waters and by international maritime convention can't exactly do anything to those boats until they definitely do something overtly aggressive (i.e fire upon them or reach the inside threshold where they MUST be stopped). I'd be giving high credit to the crews for not creating a international incident while at the same time making the iranians look like terrorist swine and maritine incompentents who can't even control their own navy.
#29
How wide is the Strait of Hormuz? Where is the international boundary of Iran relative to the navigable passage - I don't know that the Iranian boats were even outside nominal Iranian waters.
#30
Well seems US Navy was caught with pants off like the British. The consequences were not so dire...
A Phalanx can have 2km range against something not fast like this boats.
Operation Praying Mantis was a response to an incident. The mines that hit the Roberts may or may not have been intended for the ship; she was in a minefield after all. However, a causus belli was established.
Same for Operation Prime Hammer, which resulted in the capture of an Iranian minelayer in the process of laying mines, and the subsequent sinking of an Iranian Boghammer after the IRGCN threatened a swarm attack on the support barge Hercules. In all instances a causus belli was establshed.
The IRGC actions echoed what the Soviets often did (pointed weapons w/o using fire control radar, agressive and interfering manuvering, etc).
but our commanders in the Gulf can either have an outcome like the USS Samuel B. Roberts - or they can have an outcome like the USS Simpson - or they can have no outcome of significance.
Or they could have an incident exactly as the IRCGN intended.
Our military is always allowed to exercise self defense - the question here is: How aggressively are we allowed to practice self-defense in a mine-laying situation?
Depends. It could be a mine, it could not be a mine. You treat it as if it were a hazard, short of opening fire on it. Again, the Soviets did the same thing (and we did some things to the Soviets that could also be considered 'aggressive'...)
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The narrowest part of the Strait is about 55 nautical miles, but from Wikipedia
Ships moving through the Strait follow a Traffic Separation Scheme (TSS), which separates inbound from outbound traffic to reduce the risk of collision. The traffic lane is six miles wide, including two two-mile-wide traffic lanes, one inbound and one outbound, separated by a two-mile wide separation median.
Given claims around the islands, it's quite possible the Iranian boats were close enough to claimed waters to allow them cover if we were undisciplined enough to respond to an empty provocation.
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Iran's Foreign Ministry said Monday that a confrontation between Iranian boats and U.S. Navy ships in the Persian Gulf over the weekend was "something normal" and was resolved. It suggested the Iranian boats had not recognized the U.S. vessels.
The Pentagon said that in the incident early Sunday, five small Iranian boats repeatedly "charged" U.S. warships in the Gulf's Hormuz Strait and dropped boxes in the water. The boats warned the U.S. ships that they would set up "explosions," a U.S. Defense Department official said.
Do they behave like this towards every unknown vessel? I think not. It doesn't even come up to the level of rubbish.
Against some kind of swarm attack, you'll need hundreds of missiles or (even better) tons of lead. Someone please tell me we have tons of lead! It just seems to me that something like a half dozen computerized chaing guns around the periphery of each ship would be a perfect match for a hundred fast patrol boats carrying some kind of portable anti-ship missile. They'll need to deal with both the missiles and the boats. And why would they be practicing this kind of maneuver and dropping mines if they had some kind of anti-ship missile that they could launch against a destroyer? Suggests poor resources or a diversion from true capabilities. I know which one I put my money on!
And whatever happened to their vaunted supersonic torpedo? These probing actions suggest they don't have one. Why am I not shocked?
Want DoS to handle this for real? Station one agent on each ship.
I personally think the captains did fine. This is not how a war with them will start. It's the last thing they want. This is just a test. We don't want to reveal our capabilities just yet. As for the Brits, who could have known the Iranians were going to do what they did? They just wandered a bit too far from the mother ship, and the Iranians had already planned this underhanded operation. The US Navy under slightly different circumstances could have been taken advantage of as well, but hopefully now they know where the Iranians have drawn the line in the water.
Now if the Brits get fooled a second time, I'll have something to say! :-)
#37
Do they behave like this towards every unknown vessel? I think not. It doesn't even come up to the level of rubbish.
No. But the IRGC has a history of trying to screw with USN vessels. Everything from false distress calls to get a ship to enter Iranian waters, to misleading radio traffic during interdiction ops in order to start an incident, to deliberately aggressive broadcasts (in one instance it was started by someone on an Iranian navy ship; it ended abruptly with an audible 'smack' and someone else, likely the ship's CO, coming on to wish us a safe transit).
As an aside, the KSA navy has or had a habit of shooting first and asking later.
#39
checked out the ABC web article - a lot of the moonbats are screaming "Gulf of Tonkin!" and decrying that it's a "natural" response by Iran cuz they're feeling so "surrounded" by Chimpy Bushitler/Chainey/Halliburton's forces..... *ack* disgusting
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What would be nice is some US-made very very very very quite Fuel-Cell Electric boats.
The ones with operators on board, OS, or the ones that move about without humans right there?
#43
I would suggest pulling the Phalanx equipped Destroyer off station, and replacing it with an older version equipped with 5 inch Radar tracking guns, (Or larger) those will take care of "Small fast boats", up to and over the horizon, (Even a near miss will sink them) Video the whole thing, from initial warning to sinking.(Ever hear chering like a football game score, clear across the nation? Show the video and you will, intersplice pictures of the hole in the Cole's side.)
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01/07/2008 19:37 Comments ||
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Second thought, find or re-commission a few PT boats, carry them aboard destroyers, turn them over the side as needed, cover them with the above mentioned 5 inchers. Happy hunting.
Orders? Sink on sight. No more problems
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01/07/2008 19:42 Comments ||
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An AH-6 would be a better choice, but they've only operated from larger amphib ships.
Correction: Operation Prime Chance, not Prime Hammer.
#46
I believe beehive rounds would be a good choice. Either that, or the Bushmaster cannon they showed on "Future Weapons" -- its rounds will detonate at a set range, and they demonstrated it against small craft.
Of course, staged tests and RL situations often have different results.
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I'm sure the Navy is waiting to start that war until our guys have had a chance to rest a bit after the Surge.
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Barbara Skolaut a Catholic nun?
I wanna keep DBD going so I'll kick in.
By the same token, now that Sister Skoulaut mentions it, how can I not kick in to Fred's RB?
Damn Catholic guilt....(muttering to myself as I pull out the credit card....errrrr).
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You can thank Barbara for Rantburg this year. The coffers were totally empty when she last kicked in, and that paid to renew the domain name.
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Catholic guilt here too. Fred, I just hit your tipjar as well as Chris's.
Now, I feel better....Go Chargers!
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"Barbara Skolaut a Catholic nun?"
Wrong on both counts, Mark. Particularly the latter. ;-p
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Posted by: Barbara Skolaut ||
01/06/2008 15:18 Comments ||
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Barbara, you may not BE a Catholic nun, but your words wield the power of a nun. That, lady, is a POWER your friendly local imam would envy. I suspect there are enough RC's on this site to know exactly what I mean.
For the record, I clicked onto the DBD site and I'm only getting today's (steamy FredHead) cartoon strip. Where the hell is the paypal link? Frank G hit the DBD tipjar. I can't find it. I admit I'm stoopid when it comes to computers, but damnit there is no paypal link on the DBD site and I've clicked on the thing several times throughout this afternoon.
P.S. Kudos to you, Sister Barbara, for coming through for Fred & RB when the coffer was utterly bare and the domain name needed to be renewed. You say you're not Catholic or a nun? Really? Well, according to the RC Church, that's one verified (by Fred) miracle under your belt. In my faith that means you're buckin' for Sainthood. One down, two to go. Keep up the good work!
Posted by: Mark Z ||
01/06/2008 16:36 Comments ||
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I wuz wondering how the popcron kept appearing outta nowhere.
Posted by: Thomas Woof ||
01/06/2008 16:56 Comments ||
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the "donate" button is a paypal link
Posted by: Frank G ||
01/06/2008 17:30 Comments ||
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Fran G:
Believe me when I say that earlier...nothing...NOTHING was loading on my screen except for the cartoon strip and some BS advertising. Traffic heavy? Maybe. I was just now able to hit the DBD tipjar.
LOL: According to Tommy Woof-man above, we now have TWO verified miracles attributable to Sister Barbara. Fishes/loaves or popcorn/butter. It all counts.
Now, if Sister Barbara can only convince the MOD's to lift their ban on Zenster we may have three verified miracles to submit to the Vactican for B16's consideration.
Posted by: Mark Z ||
01/06/2008 18:05 Comments ||
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Geez, guys, you're making me blush. It was just dumb luck (and a little extra Christmas cash); the real miracle is that Fred (and the other mods, thank their patient souls) continues to give our voices a place to be heard - and to put up with us.
As for the popcorn, Tom, didn't you see Alaska Paul's pic of my Industrial-Strength Popcorn Machine™? ;-p
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut ||
01/06/2008 18:18 Comments ||
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:-) no problem - I wuzza just trying to be helpful
Posted by: Frank G ||
01/06/2008 18:18 Comments ||
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but don't call me Fran
Posted by: Frank G ||
01/06/2008 18:19 Comments ||
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Frank G:
Preview is my friend.
Sorry !
Posted by: Mark Z ||
01/06/2008 18:41 Comments ||
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no problem. In the immortal words of Sgt Hulka: "lighten up, Francis" :-)
Posted by: Frank G ||
01/06/2008 19:45 Comments ||
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When I donated, he had $350. Now it's $9150 and I'll bet he's cracking a beer.
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today's cartoon sez he got $11 grand yesterday
Posted by: Frank G ||
01/07/2008 9:52 Comments ||
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Count me in - both sites. I have only fond memories of being educated by both nuns and brothers. They were mercenary angels compared to my latter hard-core education by Jesuits. Imagine a Marine trained in metaphysics, logic and rhetoric as well as argumentation. Not a fair fight.
Posted by: Jack is Back! ||
01/07/2008 11:59 Comments ||
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One of Mr.Wife's great-aunts was a teaching nun. A very fair exchange, she explained to me, for getting to go to college and get a degree or three, instead of having to drop out of high school and get married like all the other girls in the neighborhood. A darling lady -- I was only sad I didn't know her in her prime, with her ruler. ;-) I'm quite sure it was never a fair fight with her, either.
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