KABUL - A suicide bomber killed his mother, sister and 11-year-old brother when his explosives vest blew up prematurely in southern Afghanistan, the Interior Ministry said on Monday. The blast occurred in the southern Afghan province of Uruzgan on Sunday where mainly Dutch and Australian troops have suffered a number of casualties fighting Taleban insurgents.
Somehow I'm having trouble feeling much sympathy for the deaders ...
"You're not going out looking like that, are you, Sonny? Li'l Fatima, get me the lint roller! Li'l Mahmoud, bring me my scissors! Look at this..."
"Maw! Don't pull that...!"
[KERBLASTO!]
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Somehow I'm having trouble feeling much sympathy for the deaders ... Deaders being a woman, a little girl and a little boy (most likely just as innocent as the intended innocent victims).
That's Real Good Steve. Especially coming from a former military pilot. But, really, does that make you come across as a better person than the terrorist who felt the same about his intended "deaders", Steve?
#3
Thank you Omomomp, for clearing that up. Innocents being killed in a village either by the bad guys or our guys is just fine, then. Just what I thought, a mentality that brings back memories of Vietnam's Mai Lai village. It seems Vietnam Veterans are what I see here. Therefore, thank God above our young military people these days are much better oriented regarding this issue, and would never require a village of little boys and girls be destroyed, for the sake of one, older, bad guy. God above may let these young people win this war...
#4
Hey jackbag - once bro brought the boomer in the house, this was on him. You fail (as usual) to see the difference between us and them. We don't target innocents though they do get killed. This cat brough the the bomb to HIS house. We try to kill those who are killing us - self defence 101. They want to kill everyone who doesn't believe in thier religion - see the difference ? No I'm not VV, just a regular old vet.
#7
I don't know enough to know whether sympathy is warranted or not. How old was his sister? Less than about 8? Likely deserving sympathy. Mama was hurting either way - if she'd lived, it would have been with the knowledge that one of her kids killed two others. I would figure Afghan moms are about as clueless as any others about what their teenage sons are up to except (for instance) how do you hide your p0rn in a mud hut in a country village? More questions: did he just blow up prematurely or was he giving (or getting) lessons when it happened? Little bro was 11 - just about trainee age - I wonder if anyone thought to check him for color-blindnees (it affects about 1 in 10 males.)
#8
(most likely just as innocent as the intended innocent victims).
Don't get out much, do you Pheagar? Haven't you read all the stories from the proud families on how they send their "brave" sons or daughters off to blow themselves up for Allen? And how the little ones can't wait until they're old enough to kill some infidels? Most likely they were gathered around to wish Sonny happy jihad.
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Is there any need to censor Aris? I know bandwith, etc, etc, but although I dont agree with his viewpoints, his comments are usually clean enough. Maybe not "well reasoned", but certainly "civil".
I may not agree with what he says, but I will defend his right to die, bitter and alone, for his beliefs.
#10
Fred and the moderator staff decided last week to ban Aris again-- this time, permanently.
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I'm sorry - I'm sorry they raised and lived with this POS. I'm also sorry some have the fake outrage not to be pissed at the innocents this stain would've killed. FY Pheager. Cretin
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Gene pool getting cleaner. Once again Islam devours its young. When Muslims finally give up on this terrorism shit, they won't have this problem. Until then, my heart pumps piss.
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Pheagar: I'm not a former military pilot. Just for the record.
I don't have much sympathy for the deaders -- none for the boomer. And Mom had to know what Sonny was doing. I don't think they're innocents.
Next time a young thug starts assembling a boom belt at home, Mom should swat him hard, ground him, make him do his homework and get his ass back into school. Then I'll have some sympathy.
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"Dave, do you have any links to the posts which caused the banning?"
Nope. But you can go back through the last week or so and scroll through the 'Burg looking for long threads; chances are, they're flamefests. It got to the point where Fred and the mods decided enough is enough.
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I support Fred & the Mods (sounds like a '70s disco group) in their pooplisting. I suspect it was not one particular post, but the cumulative effect that did Aris in. I found the threads he generated to be tedious and to detract from the overall Rantburg experience. I believe that was his intention as well, as I suspect it is Pheager's as well. I don't mind debate and maybe a little name calling, but sometime it goes too far.
Aris has his own website so it is not as if he can no longer express his opinions. He just can't derail comment threads here and make them all about Aris's most recent outrageous comment.
As far as I am concerned, Phreager is hitting the same limit. His point about the sister being innocent has merit, but comparing Dr. Steve White to My Lai? This guy obviously hasn't read much of what Steve has posted. If he thinks we're all a bunch of vicious Vietnam Vets then perhaps he should spend time with folks with whom he is more comfortable. But don't stop by, drop a turd in the punch bowl and expect a friendly reception.
As Dr. Steve indicated last Saturday in this thread (see #13), Pheager, annoying though he be, is not banned yet because he shows possible potential as a chew toy. Sometimes trolls are funny.
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I'm sorry the kids got blown up, but c'mon - the guy was wearing an explosive vest! It wasn't like this was 'something the kids are all wearing tese days'.
This has the same collective mental disposition as storing a live grenade, or working on a bomb at the kitchen table. Sooner or later somebody is going to buy it.
FWIW, this is a hell of a lot different than shooting a 77-year old lady in her house for breathing-while-muslim.
#19
Well, I have spent long enough trawling & can only see one post to the professor / noose story, which was met with numerous Ad Hominem "Aris is back" snarks. The post employed logical fallacies, sure, in that it attributed the assumption of fascism to Republicanism as a part of Republicans own guilty conscience.
The only other post I found was a useful post about the Abkhazian / S. Ossetian independance bids being driven by Russian Imperialism.
A post which was met with derision by Gromgoru, with a substanceless attack.
#20
Admiral, that horse is DEAD. You may as well stop beating it.
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if the poor Dead Horse
keeps getting the same BEATING then were gonna have to assign Homework to some of the commenters!
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Admiral, I am an arch conservative. I am very skilled in debate, even with liberals, and have actually persuaded several to change their views to support our troops, something these guys don't have the will to do. That fails our people on the front line. I have been submitting articles that support our President, our troops and the people we are bringing hope to for a long time here at Rantburg. I have been commenting in support of the vast majority of other commenters here, for a very long time.
However, I had never used a common alias, using whatever different alias the next login gives me, because I found out a long time ago, that the people here are extremely thin skinned, and if that skin gets the least bit pricked about a comment one makes, they go ballistic, lashing out with profanity, name calling, etc., etc.. I stuck with the alias "Pheagar the Imposter4243" the last few days because the one time in a very long time that these people disagree with me, calling me names, etc., etc., I wanted to let them have their "toying" time. It is going to be difficult for them. I will not stoop to the profanity they use, I will use facts in my responses. This also happened over a year ago. Nothing new with this bunch.
#23
...so now you know why these people are losing the home part of the war that our young people in the trenches need us to win so desperately. Or it will be another Vietnam in the M.E. if the homefront is lost.
Aris is certainly not uninformed on a variety of subjects. I have found some of his views challenging in ways that have strengthened my own convictions once the flaws in his argument have become apparent.
Without people like him the debate here becomes too self-congratulatory & we run the risk of fulfilling the right wing sterotype of being justified in our certitude by God/Self, rather than having reasoned our moral position in alignment with universal/divine principles of justice.
Just my 2p - admittedly more than I have put in the tip jar...
#26
No sympathy here beyond the usual "sucks to be you, eh?". Let us assume the boomer would attempt to murder a crowd consisting of more than three people who were at least, if not more, innocent than his own family. Looking at it from the point of Sympathy Economics, this is actually a positive outcome since it minimizes the number of dead innocents.
And could someone put another bullet in that dead horse? It seems to still be twitching.
#27
Well Pheagar, I expect that like myself, you will have utilised many of the facts / arguments found here in these articles and debates. I think you are too harsh in your criticisms.
I am sure that much of what the mods do here is out of expediency rather than being just for kicks.
However, I am a big advocate for free speech & whilst I'm not putting myself at risk like many of these folks, I stand firm on my own soil. I didnt see any liberals in Hyde park the other year when some 40,000 Muslims marched on "Speakers Corner", some would say the birthplace of free speech, to protest the cartoons.
I didnt go to tell them to stop their protests, just to refute and riducule their ideology & make them seethe & glower. I expect a higher standard from RB (so call me a cultural relativist if you will)
#29
I remember the woman who had eight sons and was a member of the Palestinian parliament. She was quoted as being proud that her sons were all suicide bombers who went out to kill the Joooos. She was nothing but a bomb factory.
Phreager, the suspicion is that this mother knew what her son was up to or, at the very least, failed in her parental duties to know who his friends were. Maybe that's holding her to too high of a standard than we should expect from Afghans but, then, other more or less innocent people were likely to die because of her failure. We went to war in Afghanistan because their society condoned the activities of Osama bin Laden. They are part of a culture that is hostile to us. This is the same culture that demanded the death penalty for a man who converted from Islam to Christianity. They are cynical barbarians who use our sympathy for the supposedly innocent civilians against us. The little brother and sister were most likely on the same path as the boomer. Screw 'em.
#31
Ya ever notice the longest continuous threads are always started by someone taking exception to the norm among the burg? Why don't we save Fred's band-width by just rolling our eyes, nodding like a bobblehead and ignoring the misunderstood.
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Islamophobia is a great idea. I don't trust a one of them, and I would ban Islam were it up to me. In my experience, and from what information I have, Muslims the world over have proven Islamophobia a necessary guide to a secure life.
Welcome to Allan's Snackbar, Admiral.
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.. I stuck with the alias "Pheagar the Imposter4243" the last few days because the one time in a very long time that these people disagree with me, calling me names, etc.,
Theyed called u namez? That's just wrong! What kinda reps you need. A friend to talk too, $5 bucks for a samich? The Bank of Rantburg will make you whole. Trust me on this.
#35
I'm a full-fledged Vietnam vet, and proud of it. I also see a parallel here between Vietnam and Afghanistan. When people won't stop those that wish to enslave them, whether they're Viet Cong or islamists, they are just as guilty as those that do the enslaving. One of the great things that is happening in Iraq is that the local people are turning against the boomers and killers. Many are actually taking up arms to defend themselves and their villages. This is exactly what's needed to put an end to islamoterrorism. I'm not seeing that much of this kind of behavior in Afghanistan. If MOM had at least tried to argue with junior, to try to get him to see how stupid he was being, then I might have sympathy. If MOM had shooed out the other kiddies, they'd lived. If the KIDDIES had had two active brain cells, they'd have left on their own. But by glorifying this kind of violence, all of them have endorsed it. I have no sympathy for such people.
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When people won't stop those that wish to enslave them, whether they're Viet Cong or islamists, they are just as guilty as those that do the enslaving.
Word, OP. Muslims must turn upon their jihadis or join them in the crosshairs.
That's nice. I'm a lousy golfer myself. Everyone should have a hobby.
I am very skilled in debate, even with liberals, and have actually persuaded several to change their views to support our troops, something these guys don't have the will to do.
That fails our people on the front line.
Well, I guess the more than a few of us here that are still working with the troops are obviously 'falling down on the job'.
I have been submitting articles that support our President, our troops and the people we are bringing hope to for a long time here at Rantburg.
That's nice. Why don't you also find a few funny animal stories as well? Just a little something for me to take my mind off work.
Also, you doth protest too much.
I have been commenting in support of the vast majority of other commenters here, for a very long time.
And if you kept one nym, I'd thank you for your support.
However, I had never used a common alias, using whatever different alias the next login gives me, because I found out a long time ago, that the people here are extremely thin skinned...
Speaking of thin-skinned...
Y'know, part of standing behind your beliefs here (or anywhere) is not assuming camouflage every time somebody takes a dislike to 'you' or your words. Or, if you realize it won't do any good to comment on the mouth-breathers, don't say anything. Some people you'll never reach.
#38
I call Bullshit on our chew-toy - in all facets - having been here long, having had a discernible pattern of comments, shape-shifting nyms. conservative troop-supporting, ar1s-loving beyotch. F'ing liar
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I always see waste of life as regretful. However, most of us here are numb to this sh*t --hence the gallows humour. The only bright side is maybe this situation will be a horrible lesson to other would-be shaheeds and their families. Pheager, IMO there is no correlation between Steve's sentiments and the intent of the terrorists. He has no sympathy for their death i.e. swim at your own risk, however, he didn't advocate for them to be killed - a big difference between terrornutz and us. Sure it's too bad this happened to a couple little kids but I'd feel a whole lot worse if this punk was able to pull this off by a patrol of Aussies or Dutchmen or other bystanders. I have had the pleasure of twice playing in the sandbox. IMHO, a hundred of these idiot kids can kill a thousand of their own family members so long as none of our lads get hurt - that's my view of war. If that makes me a my lai monger then so be it, I'll still be able to look my fugly mug in the mirror and sleep well at night. BTW - Aris getting banned has nothing to do w/free speech; this is Fred's blog, he can do as he pleases w/it. I personally think Aris is an *sshole who once in a while made a good point. I didn't get my panties in a bunch when Aris interjected his views but also am not crying because he's been booted. Most of the time he was a pain in the ass and his debate skills really went down hill over the past 3 yrs, or, it's the same old crap, dodge a question by asking one, pull some OT subject out of the text and try to misrepresent other poster's comments -gets old quick. I'm not a mod and don't want to be, I trust they know when to toss folks.
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UPDATE:
Mama does deserve our sympathy.
From Radio Free Afghanistan, via Jawa: "Afghanistan's Interior Ministry says a would-be suicide bomber killed himself and his family as his mother tried to stop him from carrying out a Taliban-style suicide attack in southern Afghanistan. The ministry says the man's bomb-filled vest exploded as his mother struggled with him at their home in the Chora district of Uruzgan Province on Sunday (October 14). The man, his mother, his sister, and his 11-year-old brother were all killed. The Ministry says the man had been trained for a suicide mission at a militant Islamic school in Pakistan."
#41
Hokay. Mom gets kudos. As Ebbang Uluque6305 previously noted:
the suspicion is that this mother knew what her son was up to or, at the very least, failed in her parental duties to know who his friends were. Maybe that's holding her to too high of a standard than we should expect from Afghans but, then, other more or less innocent people were likely to die because of her failure. We went to war in Afghanistan because their society condoned the activities of Osama bin Laden. They are part of a culture that is hostile to us. This is the same culture that demanded the death penalty for a man who converted from Islam to Christianity. They are cynical barbarians who use our sympathy for the supposedly innocent civilians against us.
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To the mother's credit, she did did take final responsibility and paid for it with her life. Far too many other Muslim parents either openly encourage such behavior or tacitly approve of it by making no pointed inquiries into what sort of indoctrination their child receives.
Too few Muslims have been made to pay a price for their flaccid attitude towards terrorism. Once the cost becomes high enough, maybe then they'll show greater concern for who is shaping the minds of their children. The fact that Afghanis accepted the reinstallation of shari'a law tells me that they still have some extremely harsh lessons to learn. Their refusal to recognize how shari'a is one vast abuse of human rights prevents me from having very much sympathy. I'll save that for the people who are fighting to eliminate shari'a, wherever they are.
A Danish soldier was injured Monday in the restive Helmand province in Afghanistan, the Danish Army Operational Command said Monday. The soldier was flown by helicopter to a field hospital at Camp Bastion for treatment, the statement said. Details of the soldier's injuries were not disclosed, but he was apparently injured during manoeuvers in the Upper Geresk Valley. Last month two Danish soldiers were killed in the same region during an ongoing offensive against Taliban forces. Denmark was by November due to have 560 troops in Afghanistan, mainly in Helmand.
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(SomaliNet) Troops from the breakaway Somali republic of Somaliland on Monday seized a village inside a rival region loyal to the interim Somali president, killing at least 10 people, witnesses said, Reuters reports.
Somaliland, which broke off from Somalia when civil war erupted in 1991 and has governed itself since, ran troops from the neighbouring Puntland region out of the village of Las Anod and had threatened to move further east into Puntland. "Ten dead people are lying in the streets of Las Anod," radio operator Mohamed Abdullahi told Reuters from the village which had until Monday been under Puntland's control since 2002.
Puntland, a semi-autonomous province, is allied to the fractious transitional federal government that is struggling to impose central rule over the Horn of Africa nation. "Somaliland troops have captured the entire village and 100 Puntland troops. Somaliland has warned that if Puntland troops try to come back, they would not mind going deep into Puntland territory," a security official who tracks Somalia said.
The latest battle between the rival regions further complicates the fortunes of President Abdullahi Yusuf, who was president of his native Puntland before his election to national office in late 2004. Somaliland's leaders detest Yusuf, a former warlord who invaded their capital Hargeisa in the late 1990s, and have refused to join his government -- now mired in a persistent insurgency and political split that has paralysed it.
Puntland and Somaliland for years have fought over their border, which was made when Britain took Somaliland as its colony and Italy the rest of what is now modern-day Somalia. There were conflicting reports on whether Somaliland troops had advanced further into Puntland toward its capital Garowe, about 90 km (56 miles) to the east. Somaliland's Defence Minister Abdillahi Ali told reporters that Somaliland troops had control of the checkpoint on the road to Garowe. A diplomat that tracks Somalia from Nairobi told Reuters Somaliland had advanced 25 km east of Las Anod.
Puntland officials had no comment except to say Puntland President Adde Muse was flying back to Garowe from Djibouti. Puntland's military strength has waned since Yusuf took many of its militias for security since returning to Somalia in 2005. Somaliland argues it should be given its own sovereignty since it has held democratic elections and done what most of the rest of Somalia has not since 1991 -- provide stability and relative security. Meanwhile, Conan's army follows the Styx between Keshan and Punt to Zembabwei and into the Forbidden City.
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I need a program or something, I want to be on Conan's side but don't know if he is fighting the snake people or the good guys.
Egyptian authorities discovered two new tunnels leading under the border to the Gaza Strip and arrested several suspects, a security official said Monday.
The first, 1,100 meter-long tunnel (1203 yards) was discovered in Salah el-Din north of the Rafah border crossing, said the security official on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to give press statements. Inside, authorities found a weapons cache with bullets and explosives, five kilograms of heroine, and some medicine, the official said. Later Monday, a second tunnel was found south of Rafah border crossing at Al-Dohnia. Authorities arrested three Palestinians who were on their way from Gaza to Egypt, the official said.
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weapons cache with bullets and explosives, five kilograms of heroine, and some medicine
A bomb placed on the Siirt-Ankara train on Sunday was defused by the careful work of bomb experts from the police department, Ankara Governor Kemal Önal stated yesterday.
At a celebratory meeting held at the governors residence in the capital to mark the end of Ramazan Bayramý, Governor Önal said that the explosives placed on the Güney Ekpresi (South Express), running between Siirt and Ankara had been defused.
The explosives found on the train, which was undergoing maintenance, by employees of the State Railways as a result of careful scrutiny, were defused by experts from the police department.
Of course, this is a very important development. Four people caught in relation to the explosives were sent to legal authorities yesterday for interrogation and were arrested as a result. I congratulate our police forces for their utmost care against explosives and in their counterterrorism struggle, Governor Önal said.
Thirty men accused of planning to blow up Spain's High Court in an al Qaeda suicide bomb attack went on trial in Madrid on Monday. The men, mainly Moroccans and Algerians, were arrested in October 2004, seven months after a group of al Qaeda-inspired bombers killed 191 people in attacks on Madrid commuter trains. Officials said the ringleaders planned to use a truck packed with half a ton of explosives to carry out a suicide attack on the court, as well as aiming to bomb a train station and the headquarters of the conservative opposition Popular Party. Prosecutors are asking for sentences of up to 46 years.
The first of the accused to appear, Mohamed Boukiri, denied involvement and said he was too heavily involved in his illegal drug habit to have taken part. "I was just a junky," he told the court.
"Wudn't me."
Many of the men, who are not known to be linked to the March 2004 train attacks, first met while serving prison sentences in Spain, prosecutors say. Spanish security officials say that Islamist groups are the country's biggest security threat -- more dangerous than Basque nationalist guerrillas ETA.
This article starring:
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al-Qaeda in Europe
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As long as islam is allowed to continue being recognized as a 'religion' and not forced to either integrate into the 21st Century or be isolated in a small patch of the Muddled East, there will be threats like these to deal with. The more muslims in the general (or specific area) population, the more likely this kind of behavior will be exhibited. Terrorism, suicide bombings, car-be-cues, are all symptoms of a larger problem - unrestrained islam. It's time to quit fighting the symptoms and start fighting the disease.
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(KUNA) -- As many as three guerrillas of Pakistan-based Lashker-e-Taiba (LeT), including a "self-styled commander", have been arrested by the security forces in the Kishtwar district of Indian-administered Jammu and Kashmir. The Indian security forces raided a guerrilla hideout in Pattimal village in Kishtwar district and arrested three LeT guerrillas last night, the news agency Press Trust of India reported Monday. The arrested guerrillas were identified as Nissar Ahmed alias Abu Maaz - "a self styled commander" of LeT, Gulam Mohmmad and Farooq Ahmed alias Abu Sofia, the news agency said quoting an official of Jammu and Kashmir police. Three AK-47 rifles, 5 magazines, 75 rounds and one grenade were recovered from the slain guerrillas, the news agency said.
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Abu Maaz
Lashker-e-Taiba
Abu Sofia
Lashker-e-Taiba
Farooq Ahmed
Lashker-e-Taiba
Gulam Mohmmad
Lashker-e-Taiba
Nissar Ahmed
Lashker-e-Taiba
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Gunmen launched simultaneous mortar and machinegun attacks on two mainly Polish military bases in southern Iraq on Monday, after Shi'ite militants vowed to step up pressure on Polish soldiers to force them out.
An official at a hospital in Diwaniya, 180 km (110 miles) south of Baghdad, said two children under the age of 10 had been killed in the mortar attack and three -- a 15-year-old and two 17-year-olds -- had been shot dead. A Polish helicopter was hit by machinegun fire during the attacks but managed to land safely, said Lieutenant-Colonel Wlodek Glogowski, spokesman for Polish forces in Iraq. Two Polish soldiers were slightly wounded in the clashes.
On Sunday Reuters obtained a copy of a video in which two previously unknown Shi'ite groups claimed responsibility for attacks on Poland's ambassador and its embassy and warned Polish troops to leave Iraq "before you drown in its swamp". About 900 Polish troops, part of the U.S.-led multinational forces in Iraq, are based in Qadisiya province to support the 8th Iraqi Army division and train Iraqi soldiers and police.
In Monday's attack, gunmen fired mortars and machineguns at a base manned by Polish and Iraqi soldiers in Iskan, a southwestern neighborhood of Diwaniya, the provincial capital, Glogowski said He said four civilians were killed and 17 wounded. They were hit by the attacking militants, not when troops returned fire, he said. Three gunmen had also been killed. It was not clear how the children became victims of the attack, but there are many homes near the base. A curfew was later imposed in the surrounding districts.
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Reading the numbers - at least five persons 17 or under were killed and only four civilians were killed, along with three militants. This leads to the conclusion that at least one of the militants was 17 or under. Get yer scorecards here! Ya can't tell the players without a scorecard! Kids rule!
A suicide car bomber killed four people and wounded 25, mostly women and children, in a public park in western Baghdad on Monday, police said. The attack in the religiously mixed Harthiya district came on the final day of the Eid el-Fitr holiday, when many families had taken advantage of the improved security in the Iraqi capital and the good weather to venture outside.
Police said the bomber parked at the entrance to the garden and then blew himself up as families were leaving to go home at the end of the day. There was no claim of responsibility for the bombing but Sunni Islamist al Qaeda had vowed to step up attacks during the holy fasting month of Ramadan which preceded the Eid holiday.
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#1
Is this really going to help AQI achieve anything? Attacking US troops and accidentally killing others would potentially help them. Attaching Iraqi troops or police with collateral damage might help them in some cases. Attacking non-Muslim civilians would demonstrate their ruthlessness without significant blowback. Attacking a Shiite (or even Sunni) religious gathering might work towards their goal of inciting civil war. Attacking a mixed sectarian group of women and kids in a park? Are they drugging the bombers to the point where they can't tell kids in the park from cops at the station, and no longer qualify as an Islamic 'smart bomb'?
(I've figured it out! The Americans did it! They kidnapped and rigged some guy with a bomb and then used their mind control ray to make him blow himself up in the park in order to unite the people against AQI! And if I can figure this out then I am sure Kos can.)
#3
Terrorism, by its very nature tends to be indiscriminate. Unfortunately, so much of Islam is such a blood-soaked culture that most of their barbarous handiwork comes as no major surprise to any of them. It will take many more heinous incidents like this in order for Muslims to finally notice the fact that they are chasing an ideological dead-end.
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"It will take many more heinous incidents like this in order for Muslims to finally notice the fact that they are chasing an ideological dead-end."
So AQI is left in a real difficult position - can they pull off enough such attacks to rally Congress to orchestrate a retreat before every Iraqi knows they are chasing an ideological dead-end?
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The Lions of IslamTM are relegated to murdering women and children. It appears that the evil infidel Army is just to powerful for allan. Some "god".
#6
I was in Baghdad in 2004 when they blew up that school yard full of school girls getting ready for final exams. The shock from the blast blew me out of bed.
My driver and I heard the sirens and ran to the scene. What a catastrophe and what a sickening display.
There was a lot of outrage at the bombing. Iraqs running by me would yell "We need you americans to protect us from these F.... foreigners." They were of the mind that no Iraqi would hard children. I think they were right.
I had a LTC tell me in March 2004 that they were killing more Iranians than Iraqis and they were killing a number of Czechnians. Funny to me that everyone gasps in amazement when Patreaus and the guys say Iran is causing problems. It was general knowledge in 2004.
We should have popped those guys during the elections or during the riots last year.
It is pathetic and sad that these neanderthals have to target the innocent and the defenseless. Much like they do in Isreal.
They play from the same play book everywhere.
Kurdish residents in villages along Iraq's border with Turkey called for US intervention after a mountainous area in northern Iraq was hit with artillery and rocket fire over the weekend.
Kurdish authorities were guarded in their response, but residents in the border village of Inshki called on the United States to intervene. Iraqi army Col. Hussein Rashid of the border guard forces said Turkish troops fired more than 250 artillery shells and at least 10 missiles on three areas inside Iraqi territory late Saturday. But, he said, the shelling caused no casualties or damages as it hit only abandoned areas in the mountains. AP Television News footage shot from the village of Inshki, 30 kilometers from the Turkish border, showed a hillside dotted with balls of fire, terrifying residents below.
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FOX NEWS > Approximately 80% of all US airpower supporting US milfors in Iraq-ME stages or flies thru the TUrkish corridor, plus approxi 25% of US oil, ergo few iff anyone in the USG = Washington DC wish to see a Turkic-Kurd-Iraqi-Iranian conflagration in this area.
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I guess all that advice Bush is giving to the Dhimmicrats presidential candidates is paying off, eh?
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I don't understand why we can't shut down any PKK operations in the Kurdish section of Iraq. One would think that the Kurdish provincial government would have way too much to risk to accomodate these guys. Is Turkey just ginning this up to preemptively cut the nuts off the Kurds? Are they doing this because of the Dem-led Armenian genocide resolution the other day? Who wins in this? I just don't get this one.
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#4 I don't understand why we can't shut down any PKK operations in the Kurdish section of Iraq.
Who says we haven't? I'm sure the Turks would rather retaliate against Iraq, which is more focused inward against terrorist attacks, than Iran, which is focused on projecting power throughout the area. There are Kurds in Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Turkey. Two of those countries are doing everything they can to stir up unrest and wreck the formation of a stable democratic government in Iraq. Turkey needs to watch its backside - it wouldn't surprise me a bit that part of the problems are being created by Russia, using its muddled east proxies, just to create a wedge between NATO allies. Nobody said the PKK was rational, and nobody truly knows who's pulling the strings - a typical muddled east mess.
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A second Iraqi journalist in as many days was killed Monday in an ambush north of Baghdad that left his two security guards wounded, according to police and relatives. Dhi Abdul-Razak al-Dibo, a 32-year-old freelance reporter, was driving his BMW with his guards near Kirkuk, 290 kilometers north of Baghdad, Kirkuk police spokesman Brig. Gen. Sarhat Qadir said. Dibo's family said he lived in Kirkuk and contributed stories to at least two weekly newspapers in Tikrit, 130 kilometers north of Baghdad.
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Yeah. Too much good news coming out of the press in the last week. AQI figures it is time to start shooting reporters to get them back "in line".
(KUNA) -- Six tribesmen were killed and eight others injured in a suicide bombing in north Baghdad, the Iraqi police said here Monday. The bombing explosion took place at a checkpoint near a fuel station at Balad, 80 kilometers north of Baghdad, an Iraqi police source told Kuwait News Agency (KUNA) by phone. The suicide bomber exploded the car as soon as he approached the checkpoint, which belonged to a local council formed of chief tribesmen to work with Iraqi security forces to fight Al-Qaeda militants in Salaheddin Province, the source added.
Earlier last month, Sheikh Muawia Abdullah al-Jabarah, chief of the council, was killed in a bomb explosion targeting his convoy at Balad in Salaheddin Province. Al-Jabarah, together with several other chief tribesmen, set up so-called supporting and awakening councils with a view to helping Iraqi security forces in the fight against Al-Qaeda network in the province. These councils have been under terrorist attacks by Al-Qaeda for several months due to their support to Iraqi and multinational forces.
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yeah i bet this will get them back too AQs side
(KUNA) -- A suicide bomber rammed into a restaurant in Baghdad with explosive-laden vehicle killing three people and wounding at least 12 others in Al-Harthiyah suburb west of here, an Iraqi police source said Monday. The source said that a suicide bomber in a booby-trapped vehicle rammed into a crowd of people celebrating Eid Al-Fitr holiday near a restaurant in west Baghdad killing three and wounding 12 others. According to eyewitnessess, the suicide bomber detonated the explosives before reaching a nearby checkpoint. Many nearby shops were affected by the blast.
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(KUNA) -- Two Christian Catholic priests who were snatched by gunmen in the northern Iraqi city of Mosul on Saturday were freed on Monday, the Italian Catholic news agency SIR reported. The news agency did not indicate whether ransom was paid to win the release of the religious pair, who were taken at gunpoint by gunmen near Tal-Aafar while they were heading to attend a funeral.
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Actually, its possible in this case that no ransom was needed. The locals, even the Muslims, actually like these guys, they've done a lot of work with the poor. So very bad publicity, and it looks like the grab was by amateurs, not terrs. Plus its Mosul - Kurdish in character, so not such a nasty spot as say, Basra or Baghdad.
No ransom, just honest appreciation of having done the wrong people. All for the same reasons OS wrote of plus I lit two candles in church yesterday and said the rosary at novena.
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JiB, I'd like to think that your efforts helped in this particular case.
Ramallah - Israeli soldiers shot dead a Palestinian militant and an elderly bystander in exchanges of fire in the West Bank city of Nablus Tuesday, medical officials said. Some 25 Israeli military vehicles drove into the city to arrest militants from the al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, the military wing of President Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah movement.
The troops exchanged fire with members of the Brigades holed up in a house in Nablus' Old City, seriously injuring three when shelling the building. Basem Abu Sarriyeh, also known as Qaddafi and the leader of a sub- group calling itself the Knights of the Night AKA The League of Batmen, was in critical condition and died of his wounds in hospital.
An elderly resident of the Old City in his 70s was also shot. Relatives said he went out of his house to inspect what was going on when he was hit in the crossfire, while other Palestinian sources said soldiers forced him to leave his house. An Israeli military spokeswoman said she was checking the report.
A bombing at a district train station seriously wounded a soldier in this strife-torn province on Tuesday.
An eight-soldier unit was on duty providing security at the Ruso district train station when the remote controlled bomb, hidden underground, exploded. Banyai Suwannang, head of the team suffered shrapnel wounds in his head and torso. He was severely wounded and rushed to hospital.
The police believe the bomb is related to the southern unrest as this small train station was earlier targeted in four bombings.
An army detachment located in south-eastern Sri Lanka has been attacked by Tamil rebels, a government spokesman said Monday. The director general of the government media centre, Lakshman Hulugalle, said Tamil rebels had used small arms to attack the army detachment in Thalgasmankada, 380 kilometres south-east of the capital on Monday evening. He said according to initial reports no serious damage had been caused.
Military spokesman Brigadier Udaya Nanayakkara said reinforcements had been sent to reach the camp located deep inside the jungles on the border of a wildlife park. He said a wildlife department jeep carrying game rangers had been caught in the fire, but nobody had been injured. However Tamil rebels claimed that the detachment had been overrun, with six soldiers killed, weapons seized and the camp set on fire.
In a message posted on the pro-rebel Tamilnet website claimed the camp was under the control of the rebels for three hours and they removed six weapons and communication equipment in the raid. The area borders the eastern province where Tamil rebels still maintain pockets and carry out small-scale attacks on the security forces.
A private radio station reported that a group of rebels had arrived in boats from the south-eastern coast and launched an attack on the small military detachment set up to prevent rebels from infiltrating into the wildlife park. Tamil rebels last week warned that they would launch attacks shortly and that they were preparing for their next step.
This article starring:
Brigadier Udaya Nanayakkara
Lakshman Hulugalle
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Sri Lanka's military said it killed 137 Tamil Tiger rebels but lost 10 soldiers in the past 12 days of fighting. The clashes in the north, focus of renewed civil war between the state and Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), is the latest in a series of near daily clashes in recent months. The military also said there has been no civilian casualties during the period of the latest military casualties.
The rebels, who say they are fighting for an independent state for minority ethnic Tamils in the north and east, were not immediately available for comment. The military has launched an offensive to drive out the rebels from Mannar, after evicting them from jungle terrain they controlled in the east earlier this year.
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Lebanese military intelligence agents have detained seven people for alleged involvement in the preparation of attacks against UN peacekeepers in southern Lebanon, the army said in a statement Monday. The seven included some foreigners, but the statement did not give their nationalities or say whether they belonged to a specific organization. The statement said that the group planted a bomb near the southern city of Tyre aiming to target a UN patrol, but it did not explode due to a problem in the trigger.
The detainees also allegedly admitted they planned to plant two bombs in the same area and detonate them within a short period "in order to cause maximum casualties among the forces," the statement said. The two bombs were confiscated, and the seven detainees were referred to judicial authorities, the army's statement said.
There have been two major attacks against UN peacekeepers in southern Lebanon in recent months, killing six people. In August, Lebanese authorities arrested two Palestinians in connection with a roadside bombing that targeted UN peacekeepers on July 16. The bombing of a UN jeep in the southern village of Qassimiyeh caused damage but no casualties.
No group has claimed responsibility for the Qassimiyeh attack or the June 24 blast that killed six Spanish peacekeepers in southern Lebanon. But in a July videotape, al-Qaida's deputy leader Ayman al-Zawahri blessed the first attack, fueling speculation that it was carried out by al-Qaida-linked militants.
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Terrorists Snatched South of Here [W. Thomas Smith Jr.]
BEIRUT The AP is reporting Suspected terrorists detained in Lebanon.
What the AP is not reporting is that the network involved includes members of:
* Fatah Al Islam (The Al Qaeda-affiliated bunch that was supposedly wiped out to a man during the recent Battle of Nahr Al Bared).
* Jund Al Sham (a terrorist group of Syrian and Palestinian origins).
* Osbat Al Ansar (a particularly nasty group though all three are training here in Lebanon for suicide-bombing operations in Iraq).
One of my intelligence sources here also tells me, these three groups are receiving direct operational support from Hezbollah.
This morning, I'm seeing and hearing a lot of Lebanese Army helicopters overhead.
Last night, fighters were heard screaming overhead. Since the Lebanese Air Force has no operational combat jets, it had to have been the Israelis on one of their frequent nocturnal look-sees.
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Is there any way we can give Mr. Smith a pair of high-res binoculars, a sat phone and a long-distance laser pointer plus the band signal to the IAF's nasty boyz removal squadron?
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If youre being leered at lustfully youre being ogled (first vowel sounds like OH)not oggled, even if youre being ogled through goggles. The word is probably related to the German word äugeln, meaning to eye, from Auge (eye).
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I confess. I've been known to read dictionaries. Sometimes after I look up a word I go on to read about other words too. I can't help it. I'm a nerd.
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Mr. Wife was the first man I ever met who read dictionaries. So of course I never thought of it as nerdy, rather as amateur philology. ;-) Dictionaries are fun, too.
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Darn it, it's too late for a nap -- I'll have to go to bed early. Encyclopedias, not dictionaries.
Mr. Webster, you'll be quite safe if you take three steps back. Oggles are for ogling at a distance, not as protection from projecting protuberances. Besides, you're the Congressman who argued the case against the Devil, not the dictionary man, if I recall my folk tales correctly. ;-)
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KABUL - A suicide bomber killed his mother, sister and 11-year-old brother when his explosives vest blew up prematurely in southern Afghanistan, the Interior Ministry said on Monday. The blast occurred in the southern Afghan province of Uruzgan on Sunday where mainly Dutch and Australian troops have suffered a number of casualties fighting Taleban insurgents.
A Danish soldier was injured Monday in the restive Helmand province in Afghanistan, the Danish Army Operational Command said Monday. The soldier was flown by helicopter to a field hospital at Camp Bastion for treatment, the statement said. Details of the soldier's injuries were not disclosed, but he was apparently injured during manoeuvers in the Upper Geresk Valley. Last month two Danish soldiers were killed in the same region during an ongoing offensive against Taliban forces. Denmark was by November due to have 560 troops in Afghanistan, mainly in Helmand.
(SomaliNet) Troops from the breakaway Somali republic of Somaliland on Monday seized a village inside a rival region loyal to the interim Somali president, killing at least 10 people, witnesses said, Reuters reports. 
Egyptian authorities discovered two new tunnels leading under the border to the Gaza Strip and arrested several suspects, a security official said Monday. 
Thirty men accused of planning to blow up Spain's High Court in an al Qaeda suicide bomb attack went on trial in Madrid on Monday. The men, mainly Moroccans and Algerians, were arrested in October 2004, seven months after a group of al Qaeda-inspired bombers killed 191 people in attacks on Madrid commuter trains. Officials said the ringleaders planned to use a truck packed with half a ton of explosives to carry out a suicide attack on the court, as well as aiming to bomb a train station and the headquarters of the conservative opposition Popular Party. Prosecutors are asking for sentences of up to 46 years.
(KUNA) -- As many as three guerrillas of Pakistan-based 
Gunmen launched simultaneous mortar and machinegun attacks on two mainly Polish military bases in southern Iraq on Monday, after Shi'ite militants vowed to step up pressure on Polish soldiers to force them out. 
A suicide car bomber killed four people and wounded 25, mostly women and children, in a public park in western Baghdad on Monday, police said. The attack in the religiously mixed Harthiya district came on the final day of the Eid el-Fitr holiday, when many families had taken advantage of the improved security in the Iraqi capital and the good weather to venture outside.
Kurdish residents in villages along Iraq's border with Turkey called for US intervention after a mountainous area in northern Iraq was hit with artillery and rocket fire over the weekend. 
A second Iraqi journalist in as many days was killed Monday in an ambush north of Baghdad that left his two security guards wounded, according to police and relatives. Dhi Abdul-Razak al-Dibo, a 32-year-old freelance reporter, was driving his BMW with his guards near Kirkuk, 290 kilometers north of Baghdad, Kirkuk police spokesman Brig. Gen. Sarhat Qadir said. Dibo's family said he lived in Kirkuk and contributed stories to at least two weekly newspapers in Tikrit, 130 kilometers north of Baghdad.
(KUNA) -- Six tribesmen were killed and eight others injured in a suicide bombing in north Baghdad, the Iraqi police said here Monday. The bombing explosion took place at a checkpoint near a fuel station at Balad, 80 kilometers north of Baghdad, an Iraqi police source told Kuwait News Agency (KUNA) by phone. The suicide bomber exploded the car as soon as he approached the checkpoint, which belonged to a local council formed of chief tribesmen to work with Iraqi security forces to fight Al-Qaeda militants in Salaheddin Province, the source added.
(KUNA) -- A suicide bomber rammed into a restaurant in Baghdad with explosive-laden vehicle killing three people and wounding at least 12 others in Al-Harthiyah suburb west of here, an Iraqi police source said Monday. The source said that a suicide bomber in a booby-trapped vehicle rammed into a crowd of people celebrating Eid Al-Fitr holiday near a restaurant in west Baghdad killing three and wounding 12 others. According to eyewitnessess, the suicide bomber detonated the explosives before reaching a nearby checkpoint. Many nearby shops were affected by the blast.
An army detachment located in south-eastern Sri Lanka has been attacked by Tamil rebels, a government spokesman said Monday. The director general of the government media centre, 
Sri Lanka's military said it killed 137 Tamil Tiger rebels but lost 10 soldiers in the past 12 days of fighting. The clashes in the north, focus of renewed civil war between the state and Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), is the latest in a series of near daily clashes in recent months. The military also said there has been no civilian casualties during the period of the latest military casualties.
