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Afghanistan
Blast injures 16 in Afghanistan
A remote-controlled bomb planted on a parked bicycle exploded near a police bus in the Afghan capital on Tuesday, wounding more than 10 policemen and several civilians. The Taliban claimed responsibility for the attack. Senior police officer Ali Shah Paktiawal said the bomb was detonated as the bus carrying police passed in a densely crowded neighbourhood. Witnesses said three bystanders and three people in a passing car were also wounded.

Meanwhile on Tuesday, President Hamid Karzai's office insisted that the people of Afghanistan would not turn to support the Taliban, despite problems facing their destitute and volatile country. Spokesman Karim Rahimi was reacting to a warning by the NATO commander in Afghanistan that 70 percent of Afghans could begin to side with the Taliban if there was no major change in the security situation within six months.
Posted by: Fred || 10/11/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


'Hundreds' of suicide bombers ready for jihad: Taliban commander
A Taliban commander said in an interview that insurgent fighters will battle "Christian" troops until they leave Afghanistan and an Islamic fundamentalist government is established in Kabul, warning that hundreds of militants are ready to launch suicide attacks to again install strict Islamic law.

The regional-level commander, Mulla Nazir Ahmed Hamza, said the Taliban still has thousands of fighters despite NATO reports of heavy losses in recent battles, that support for the hardline movement is increasing every day and that US and NATO forces would have a tough time beating the fighters without air support. "We want an Islamic state and Islamic law," Hamza told The Associated Press while sitting next to a dozen armed fighters in Afghanistan's southern mountains over the weekend. "We don't want the Americans or any other Christians." "As a Muslim it's my duty, I have to fight and I have to carry out jihad against the Americans until they leave."

Hamza said Taliban fighters were moving from province to province to launch ambushes — roadside and suicide bombs — against Western and Afghan security forces. He said fighters by the hundreds are ready to launch suicide attacks. “Whenever the mujahideen are preparing for jihad, it means they made a decision to sacrifice their lives,” Hamza said while sitting next to an isolated mud compound in Zabul province. “Whenever we need a suicide attack, (I will) give my life and that day will be the luckiest day of my life,” he continued. “I am always ready to carry out a suicide attack against the Americans and their allies.”
Posted by: Fred || 10/11/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  From the last 7 major engagements that the Coalition has had with the Taliban, every Taliban attack is a suicide mission. Plus, the Taliban have a really bad bomb delivery record, with several accidental detinations outside the target area.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 10/11/2006 2:31 Comments || Top||

#2  Did'nt it used to be 10000's
Posted by: plainslow || 10/11/2006 7:11 Comments || Top||

#3  i would be pissed off too if i were as ugly as the man with the glasses in pic. i wonder when the last time any of them had a bath?
Posted by: sinse || 10/11/2006 8:41 Comments || Top||

#4  “Whenever we need a suicide attack, (I will) give my life and that day will be the luckiest day of my life,” he continued. “I am always ready to carry out a suicide attack against the Americans and their allies.”

Somehow, methinks "Mr." Hamza won't be the one strapping on the bombs. Any takers?
Posted by: BA || 10/11/2006 10:08 Comments || Top||

#5  and that US and NATO forces would have a tough time beating the fighters without air support.

well, we'd have a hard time if we didn't have guns or bullets too, but we do...and that air support thing too.... bring it on :-)
Posted by: Frank G || 10/11/2006 10:38 Comments || Top||

#6  “Whenever the mujahideen are preparing for jihad, it means they made a decision to sacrifice their lives,” Hamza said

How fortuitous! It's my understanding that the NATO troops, and the Afghani ones as well, share the exact same goal... and they are even better than the mujahideen at ensuring attainment. Especially when, as Frank G. notes, they have guns and bullets and air support and all.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/11/2006 13:50 Comments || Top||

#7  Napalm one of these "taliban" encampments and watch the long pig burn. I am sick to death of hearing this crap. It's time to go midieval on the "taliban", and push them even farther into the stone age. Leave nothing in one piece that was created before 10,000BC. Yeah, life will be hard for the (few) survivors, but then life is always hard when you're stupid. If we make life hard enough for these asshats, they won't have TIME to 'wage jihad'.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 10/11/2006 15:26 Comments || Top||

#8  Old Patriot, you've hit upon one of those fundamental truths that those on the left just don't get - Life is always hard when your stupid.
Posted by: BMan || 10/11/2006 15:33 Comments || Top||

#9  Are they sure? Maybe they better have a test run. Everybody press your buttons on 1,2,3...
Posted by: mojo || 10/11/2006 16:36 Comments || Top||

#10  Is that actually Woody Allen under all that?
Posted by: Brett || 10/11/2006 21:54 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
U.S. readies a possible blockade
Posted by: Fred || 10/11/2006 08:03 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Nothing would be easier, on us, and our so called Allies, then to just begin to ignore NK. Keep doing the stuff we have been, but stop pushing for new stuff, and declare them too stupid to be a threat-in a politcally correct way of course Kofi.
That would make them very mad and squash thier manhood.
Posted by: plainslow || 10/11/2006 8:44 Comments || Top||

#2  I say we laugh at their manhood while we blockade them.
Posted by: DarthVader || 10/11/2006 11:00 Comments || Top||

#3  I was listening to our Foreign Minister Downer on TV tonight and he said that Australia will continue sending food to North Korea on "compassionate" grounds.
My visceral reaction was that if I had a gun I would have blown his head off. The people of the the North fought to have the Government they've got. Well then they should learn to live with it. When they come out of their stupidity cocoon, well then we might want to talk with them. In the mean-time enjoy your starvation diet. According to the Greenies, there are too many people on the planet. Their contribution to lessening that total will be appreciated.
Posted by: tipper || 10/11/2006 11:02 Comments || Top||

#4  This is where it could be handy to have China on our side, concider the man power. Also the ability to strike from the South and the North with military strength?
Posted by: Tom || 10/11/2006 11:42 Comments || Top||

#5  Actually, Tom, China has a long border to protect that essentially provides the land part of the blockade. I'm not sure they want to be seen allowing safe passage of missiles and nuclear materials.
Posted by: Darrell || 10/11/2006 12:16 Comments || Top||

#6  Time to rethink the blockade. The US should simply announce that we will monitor all traffic in and out of north korea. Any nations that trades with North Korea (allowing ships originating in North Korea to dock or meeting North Korean ships at sea to transfer cargo) will be subject to a full 100% ban regarding trade with the United States.

The nations of the world would police themselves.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 10/11/2006 12:40 Comments || Top||

#7  I say cut into fertilizer, energy, and food aid. Raise the suffering to a fever pitch and then make Kimmie vulnerable by negating his personal defenses (which I'm sure includes the military to quite a degree). The people would do the rest. It would give them a feeling of ownership, and that could be taken as the change of heart necessary to begin to be able to work with them, at which point we could have food aid ready to go in transport planes, trains, shipts, etc. and just get to work getting them back on their feet. And install a decent government that actually considers the population to be more than just a tool.
Posted by: gorb || 10/11/2006 13:16 Comments || Top||

#8  Another option is to simply dismiss him. Consider him a rogue and not a leader. North Korea is a failed state. Declare that the South Korean government is now responsible for North Korea under the UN Mandate and they'll take charge once North Korea collapses. Then isolate them entirely and wait.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 10/11/2006 13:42 Comments || Top||

#9  "I say we laugh at their manhood while we blockade them."

Lol, DV.

Playtime's over, both for Kimmie and the ChiComs. Their statements are comic book-quality bluster and dissembling triangulation. I know it's not the recommended solution, all of the dermatologists say so, but maybe we should go ahead and pop this zit.

Even Kofi the Grate has chimed in, pretending he's a head of state rather than a hired flunky, saying we should be talking directly with Kimmie.

Enough already. Just spit it out - it's a failed state, birthed by Stalin, adopted and controlled by China. It deserves the death penalty. Knock this wheel off the axis and let the Chinks clean it up. That should make the absurd farce of them hosting the Olympics a bit more interesting.
Posted by: .com || 10/11/2006 18:15 Comments || Top||

#10  Those who continue to provide food, fertilizer and fuel to NK on 'humanitarian' grounds ought to consider the fact that most, if not all, of that aid goes to those in power and the military, while to peasants eat grass and burn dung (or is it the other way around?)
Posted by: Glenmore || 10/11/2006 18:43 Comments || Top||

#11  No food, no fertilizer and no oil. We just have to tell the UN and the media, oh and China.
Posted by: pihkalbadger || 10/11/2006 20:14 Comments || Top||

#12  One suggestion on another thread would actually focus all of China's attention and make them curb their dog : apply JFK's standard on Cuban nuke attacks to NKor - any nuclear strike from NKor will be regarded as the same as the PRC doing the attack, and the PRC will be subjected to a full-scale nuclear counterstrike. And make it clear that since we can do the "fingerprint" on the fallout from a nuke, simply giving it to a terrorist group for deniability will result in the same counterstrike against both the NKor and PRC regimes.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 10/11/2006 20:49 Comments || Top||

#13  Go one step further and add, that any detonation results in instant glassing of whoever is on the current shit list ... Iran, NK, France ;)
Posted by: bombay || 10/11/2006 23:57 Comments || Top||


Europe
Germany arrests Iraqi suspected of aiding Al Qaeda
BERLIN: German police arrested an Iraqi man on Tuesday who they suspect aided Al Qaeda by posting messages from Osama bin Laden and other leaders of militant Islamist groups on the Internet, the prosecutor's office said. Authorities believe the 36-year-old suspect, identified only as Ibrahim R., broadcast numerous audio and video messages from Al Qaeda chief bin Laden, his deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri and the late leader of Al Qaeda in Iraq Abu Musab al-Zarqawi on the Web. The Federal Prosecutor's Office said in a statement that Ibrahim R. was able to "circulate the messages worldwide and thereby support the groups in their terrorist acts and goals". The man was arrested at his home near the northwestern town of Osnabrueck. His apartment was also searched. This is the latest in a series of arrests of suspected Al Qaeda members and supporters in Germany.
Posted by: Fred || 10/11/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


Home Front: WoT
Small plane crashes into Manhattan building
This hot off the press. A "small" plane crashed into the 20th story of a Manhattan building. No word on casualties and/or if this is a terrorist act. Click title link.

NEW YORK - A small aircraft crashed into a high-rise on the Upper East Side, setting off a fire and startling New Yorkers, police said. There were conflicting reports on whether the aircraft was a small plane or a helicopter.

Fire Department spokeswoman Emily Rahimi said an aircraft struck struck the 20th floor of a building on East 72nd Street. Witnesses said the crash caused a loud noise, and burning and falling debris was seen. Flames were seen shooting out of the windows. Video from the scene showed at least three apartments in the high rise fully engulfed in flames.

There was no immediate word on any deaths or injuries.

It was not immediately known if it was a terrorist act.
A friend in NYC sez it was a helicopter and appears to be an accident...
Posted by: BA || 10/11/2006 15:07 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Now Yahoo News is linking to al-Reuters who just has 2 small paragraphs on it, quoting CNN. My guess is this was just an accident, but I thought I'd post anyways. Sorry if this was an "itchy trigger finger" on posting.
Posted by: BA || 10/11/2006 15:20 Comments || Top||

#2  Its a fixed wing aircraft BBC saiz
Posted by: Clirt Angeth8198 || 10/11/2006 15:23 Comments || Top||

#3  US intelligence officials say initially there is no reason to believe the crash was terrorism-related....Debka
Posted by: Angeck Omoger6642 || 10/11/2006 15:26 Comments || Top||

#4  Norad scrambles fighters, despite probable accidental crash.
Cap in force.
Posted by: J.D. Lux || 10/11/2006 15:28 Comments || Top||

#5  FAA says it was fixed wing. Eyewitness on Fox News says so too. She says its right wing dipped suddenly, and she wondered why it was doing acrobatics so close to the buildings. It didn't hit her building. One of the FN talking heads is a pilot, says it sounds like a stall.
Posted by: Angie Schultz || 10/11/2006 15:29 Comments || Top||

#6  Democrats announce it is a Rovian plot to steal the elections in 5..4..3..
Posted by: gorb || 10/11/2006 15:37 Comments || Top||

#7  Weather is overcast here in NY today.
This could be just an accident though why anyone would be flying this close to the buildings in Manhattan is a bit of a mystery to me. All of NYC is pretty restricted airspace wise for small planes. The East River and the Hudson are basically the path non-commercial VFR flyers need to take. They are also restricted to about 500 feet altitude. If it hit on the 48th floor that is about 480 feet, so not likely to be a stall.
Posted by: DanNY || 10/11/2006 15:38 Comments || Top||

#8  NORAD fighter jets guarding airspace in a number of US cities..CNN
Posted by: Unoth Gromort3751 || 10/11/2006 15:43 Comments || Top||

#9  Time to put on my tinfoil hat. Just saw this:

9-11-01 Upside down and backwards: 10-11-6

/Tinfoil hat off.
Posted by: Thoth || 10/11/2006 15:50 Comments || Top||

#10  Beautiful condo building by the way. You can see on the map how close it is to LaGuardia. Spokesman sez at least three apartments are fully engulfed in flame.
Posted by: Seafarious || 10/11/2006 15:50 Comments || Top||

#11  Looking at the pictures, it looks like whatever it was that crashed into the building had a pretty decent angle of incidence and a pretty good speed. Several rooms are on fire. It wasn't a glancing blow. If I had to guess I'd say it was deliberate, but obviously nobody knows yet.

I recommend that everybody sell every stock they have just in case it turns out to be terrorism. Becuse if you sell your stock, obviously you won't have to suffer the depreciation that will result when the economy tanks because they condemn a few rooms in that building. That's my logic, anyway. :-)
Posted by: gorb || 10/11/2006 15:53 Comments || Top||

#12  Does anybody know if this building was in line with any runways used by small planes at LaGuardia?
Posted by: gorb || 10/11/2006 15:58 Comments || Top||

#13  Running super said briiefly that the plane took off from Teterboro airport in NJ.
NW of the Meadowlands.

Posted by: J.D. Lux || 10/11/2006 16:09 Comments || Top||

#14  Some of the 9/11 hijackers stayed for a night or two at a motel right across the street from Teterboro Airport. It's about a mile from my home.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 10/11/2006 16:12 Comments || Top||

#15  Weather is overcast here in NY today

And the UN is about 1-1/2 miles south of there...

Poor visibility. That explains it.
Posted by: BigEd || 10/11/2006 16:13 Comments || Top||

#16  Eyewitnesses are saying that the plane made an acrobatic manuver before the crash. The ceiling is low, and La Gaurdia is around there. The pilot may have seen an incoming jet drop out of the clouds into La G, and made a panicked turn thinking he was too close.
Whatever, it's not a prime target for a terrorist. And, no missile trails were reported.
Posted by: wxjames || 10/11/2006 16:19 Comments || Top||

#17  I question the timing...
Posted by: badanov || 10/11/2006 16:20 Comments || Top||

#18  LaGuardia doesn't handle many light planes.
Teterbor does but is on the other side of Manhattan. There are several airports on Long Island, Westchester and Connecticut which also handle light planes.
Posted by: DanNY || 10/11/2006 16:25 Comments || Top||

#19  4 dead -- 2 on the ground, one strapped into the pilot's seat.

They know the type plane already. And registered to an individual in Florida.

http://www.wnbc.com/index.html
in NY is streaming live coverage
Posted by: Sherry || 10/11/2006 16:28 Comments || Top||

#20  Plane may be owned by Yankee pitcher Cory Litle. (sp)
Posted by: Sherry || 10/11/2006 16:39 Comments || Top||

#21  Cory Lidle
Posted by: BigEd || 10/11/2006 16:51 Comments || Top||

#22  I suspect Joe Torre.
Posted by: .com || 10/11/2006 16:59 Comments || Top||

#23  It still bugs me that the first thing said is always "no reason to believe it was terrorism".
Posted by: Croluting Omush1137 || 10/11/2006 17:03 Comments || Top||

#24  Thanks BidEd! Being an Astro's fan.....
Posted by: Sherry || 10/11/2006 17:05 Comments || Top||

#25  From ESPN:

Federal Aviation Administration records showed the single-engine plane was registered to Lidle, and FBI reports show that Lidle's passport was found at the scene. The FBI believed Lidle was the only person aboard the plane and the other three deaths occurred inside the building.
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/11/2006 17:07 Comments || Top||

#26  slide shows on Yahoo

AP
Reuters
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/11/2006 17:23 Comments || Top||

#27  Lidle? A little low and inside.
Posted by: Shuns Uleating3851 || 10/11/2006 17:23 Comments || Top||

#28  TV News: All Lidle, all the time. Today.

IMHO, this is one of the true quagmires. Concentrated overkill of whatever catches the whim of the on-air producer that can be packaged into the shrunken attention span of immediate gratification junkies. Pfeh.
Posted by: .com || 10/11/2006 17:46 Comments || Top||

#29  From last month:

The Phillies weren't enamored of pitcher Cory Lidle's hobby of flying a four-seat airplane.

But now that Lidle is with the Yankees, it's an especially sensitive topic.

In 1979, Yankees catcher Thurman Munson died when a plane he was piloting crashed near his home in Canton, Ohio. Lidle earned his pilot's license last offseason, and has insisted his plane is safe.

"The whole plane has a parachute on it," he told The New York Times. "Ninety-nine percent of pilots that go up never have engine failure, and the 1 percent that do usually land.

"But, if you're up in the air and something goes wrong, you pull that parachute, and the whole plane goes down slowly."


A little hard when a building is approaching.

Link
Posted by: Thoth || 10/11/2006 17:46 Comments || Top||

#30  .com, you think A-Rod would have hit the building?

:>
Posted by: Thoth || 10/11/2006 17:47 Comments || Top||

#31  So much for the terrorism theories.

Did Lidle just get his license?
Posted by: gorb || 10/11/2006 17:50 Comments || Top||

#32  Foul! Lol, Thoth.

I grew up in Texas - and at least 5 kids in my 7th grade class flew regularly. They are now picking over the nits with Judge Napolitano on Fox. They've had NORAD, the NTSB, Mayor Bloomberg, and several on-the street interviews. Killed Filled a couple of hours.

I hope Brit does his regular routine. I'd like to learn something relevant, today.
Posted by: .com || 10/11/2006 17:52 Comments || Top||

#33  Did I miss something? I saw the impact point, saw the skidmark, and said "Oh well it's not a terrorist act." That was hours and hours ago, Next!
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 10/11/2006 19:02 Comments || Top||

#34  Lidle? A little low and inside.

I cry, "FOUL"!
Posted by: Zenster || 10/11/2006 20:34 Comments || Top||

#35  Lidle? A little low and inside.

I cry, "FOUL"!


At least he finally made his impact on NYC.
Posted by: Thoth || 10/11/2006 20:39 Comments || Top||

#36  There are two pilots you never want to fly with, Pro athletes and rock stars. This whole event is about to be filed under stupid pilot tricks. When will these guys learn that piloting an aircraft in flight should be left to professionals.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 10/11/2006 20:55 Comments || Top||

#37  There were two people on the plane, according to officials. One was Lidle and the other was a flight instructor.
Posted by: lotp || 10/11/2006 21:10 Comments || Top||

#38  There was an FI on the plane?? It gets dumber by the report, good lord. This is a terrible event for the folks in the building.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 10/11/2006 21:14 Comments || Top||

#39  Bob Feller was a good, safe pilot.
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 10/11/2006 21:25 Comments || Top||

#40  FOX + CNN [10:00AM Guam time] > Lidle + passenger both dead, Lidle believed to be Pilot of small fixed wing civ plane, 21 other people injured or receiving treatment.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/11/2006 21:43 Comments || Top||

#41  Another sad day for general aviation. And possibly a very bad day for Steinbrenner and major league baseball, who will be on the phone continuously with their lawyers and their insurance agents for the next six years. :(
Posted by: Seafarious || 10/11/2006 21:53 Comments || Top||

#42  I have no love for the Yankees, nor fools, but I find soem of the comments above a little disconcerting. A wife and a son have no husband nor father, not to mention the families of the other victims. Give it a rest. Jeebus.
Posted by: Frank G || 10/11/2006 22:20 Comments || Top||

#43  btw - my sentiments extend to Gret and the rest of the sucking-parasite media. A mechanical failure makes national news in the wake of potential blockades/war with NK. F*&K! Priorities are apparently made by ADD monkeys and Foley-bashing partisans
Posted by: Frank G || 10/11/2006 22:23 Comments || Top||

#44  Another pro athlete crashes a plane. Ya he leaves a widow and an orphan, this is sad. But it killed others that had nothing to do with him and injured tens of people. There comes a time when the Pro athletes, rock stars, and other need to step down from their ego and get out of the cockpit. 400 hours is a beginner, and just reaching the most dangerous experience level for accidents. He had no business flying in the busy airspace of NYC, let alone in a low vis environment.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 10/11/2006 22:27 Comments || Top||

#45  49 Pan - if you think his celebrity led to to the other deaths, provide proof, otherwise STFU
Posted by: Frank G || 10/11/2006 23:53 Comments || Top||


Lawyers: Possible Deal for Sniper Malvo
ROCKVILLE, Md. (AP) - Convicted Washington-area sniper Lee Boyd Malvo is seeking a broad plea agreement in which he would plead guilty to other 2002 shootings that authorities have linked him to, defense attorneys and Maryland prosecutors said Tuesday. The deal, announced as Malvo formally pleaded guilty to six Maryland murders, could be reached before his Nov. 9 sentencing for those killings. He is expected to receive six life sentences, without chance of parole, at that hearing.

Malvo lawyer William Brennan told Montgomery County Circuit Judge James Ryan that he hoped to use the time before sentencing to ``reach a global resolution to Mr. Malvo's legal problems.''
We actually have that already: he's got life in the slammer in Virginia with no chance for parole. Putting him on trial elsewhere doesn't change anything. We've got the resolution most of us want.
Asked later by reporters for specifics, Brennan would only say that he would have ``candid, frank discussions with some local prosecutors.''

Montgomery County State's Attorney Douglas Gansler said such a plea deal could mean Malvo may not serve his sentence in Virginia, where he was sentenced to life for his 2003 conviction in the death of FBI analyst Linda Franklin. He also pleaded guilty to another Virginia sniper shooting. Malvo, 21, could plead guilty to the Oct. 3, 2002, shooting of Pascal Charlot in Washington and serve his life term in the federal system, Gansler said. Federal prosecutors handle murder cases in the District of Columbia.

Gansler said the decision rests with Virginia authorities, who agreed to let Malvo and his one-time mentor, John Allen Muhammad, come to Maryland for new trials. Under an interstate agreement, Maryland must return Malvo after his sentencing.

Kevin Hall, a spokesman for Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine, said Kaine's staff has not had any recent discussions with Maryland prosecutors on a plea deal for Malvo. Virginia prosecutors had expressed sharp disapproval when the idea was proposed before Muhammad and Malvo's first trials in 2003.

Prince William County Commonwealth's Attorney Paul Ebert, who tried Muhammad, said he didn't think Malvo should be able to shop around for a prison. ``I feel sorry for Mr. Malvo that he doesn't like Virginia,'' Ebert said. ``But he shouldn't have come here and committed crimes.''
And a prison in hot, rural Virginia is just the place for him.
Posted by: Steve White || 10/11/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  And a prison in hot, rural Virginia is just the place for him.

Yup. He'll think twice before stripping down to his shorts when it's hot.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/11/2006 2:28 Comments || Top||

#2  "Possible deal" > the US Army-USDOD will make sure Malvo, etal gets Steak-and-Prawns every nite ala Non-Benet JOHN KARR???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/11/2006 5:56 Comments || Top||

#3  We actually have that already: he's got life in the slammer in Virginia with no chance for parole. Putting him on trial elsewhere doesn't change anything. We've got the resolution most of us want.

No we don't "Have the resolution we want" and putting him on trial elsewhere does indeed "Make a difference" other states have the death penalty,
Which obviously he wants to avoid.
Try him, dispose of the body ans send a real message to would-be murderers.
The message being sent now is "Kill all you want, we'll provide for your health, welfare, doctors and housing in relative comfort for the rest of your life, plus you'll get endless opportunity to write books, and you'll be famous."
Any "Deaths" in Utah, I think the firing squad is entirely appropriate here, for both of them, no plea deals.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 10/11/2006 6:14 Comments || Top||

#4  We've got the resolution most of us want.

Really? So he died in shrieking agony, then?
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 10/11/2006 7:20 Comments || Top||

#5  Executing him would make him into a shaheed, a blessed martyr, and only inspire other Muslims to follow his example. He would have a platform to speak on, the liberals would have a field day demonstrating in support of him, and so on. Let him rot in prison where there is no honor for an Islamic murderer.
Posted by: gromky || 10/11/2006 9:44 Comments || Top||

#6  If anyone here gets the chance, read "The Humanitarian Theory of Punishment" by C.S. Lewis. It's rather high-brow, but he's spot on in regard to the Death Penalty.

The purpose of the Death Penalty here would not be to exact revenge, nor to send a message to other would-be killers. It's real, and most noble purpose, is to reaffirm the rights of man. Man has a right to live, ordained by God. If man takes away that right, he has forfeited his right as well. We affirm, in a very ironic way, the sanctity of life when we execute murderers. This is a concept the left will never be able to understand, that of 'just desert'.

Malvo needs, and rightfully deserves a bullet, a rope, a chair, or a needle. That is more than enough reason.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 10/11/2006 9:59 Comments || Top||

#7  Unfortunately, I don't think any other trial will result in the death penalty. Either he'll make a deal to plead guilty for, oh, 20 years each murder, or there will be no trial.

I would much rather he were dead. Alive there is a chance (small, but a chance) that he'll escape and murder again, or that some Satanic Islamic terrorist will take hostages to gain his release.
Posted by: Jackal || 10/11/2006 11:17 Comments || Top||

#8  Gromky, are you aware that the jihadis currently in US prisons have been getting letters out to their world-wide comrades through their lawyers?

Kill them all. Who cares if they're martyrs; they'll serve as inspirations even if they're left alive.

Kill them. Let the world know.

Kill them. Give their victims some justice.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 10/11/2006 11:38 Comments || Top||

#9  Man has a right to live, ordained by God. If man takes away that right, he has forfeited his right as well.

This seems about right to me. Even without the religious justification, murderers must die. They are a threat to the population and typically a burden. From a logical perspective I say spend $1 on a bullet and get rid of the problem.

From a religious perspective, the first commandment translates to "Do not murder". It does NOT translate as "Do not kill", which is how it ended up getting translated in the Old Testament. BIG difference. The old-timers had it right. They had a lot of stuff right. They didn't have the luxury of playing games with stuff that needed practical solutions.

Does anybody know what the biblical punishment for murder was?
Posted by: gorb || 10/11/2006 13:30 Comments || Top||

#10  "Does anybody know what the biblical punishment for murder was?"

"Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man." Gen. 9:6 (Noahic Covenant)

"He that killeth any man shall surely be put to death." Lev. 24:17 (Mosaic Covenant)

"For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake." Rom. 13:3-5 (New Covenant)
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 10/11/2006 14:19 Comments || Top||

#11  "He that killeth any man shall surely be put to death."

I'll bet if you go look at killeth in that sentence in the Old Testament in the original hebrew that it should really translate to murdereth. :-)
Posted by: gorb || 10/11/2006 14:47 Comments || Top||

#12  Executing him would make him into a shaheed, a blessed martyr, and only inspire other Muslims to follow his example. He would have a platform to speak on,

I really want to see him do any speaking after he's dead, before? well let's just say that's the court's job, to make sure he doesn't.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 10/11/2006 18:48 Comments || Top||

#13  As if it matters. The Muzzy Imams make up any and all the shit they need to inspire the fools who follow their screechery. Who cares if they add one more "shaheed" to the pile? Just incarcerating him would do the trick.

He's a murderer. Burn him.
Posted by: .com || 10/11/2006 18:55 Comments || Top||


Two Muslims found guilty in Albany sting case
A U.S. federal jury on Tuesday convicted two Muslim men charged with participating in a plan set up as part of a sting operation that was supposed to involve killing a Pakistani diplomat.
“Yassin Aref, 36, and Mohammed Hossain, 51, were accused of conspiring to provide material support to the Pakistan-based Islamic militant group Jaish-e-Mohammed...”
Yassin Aref, 36, and Mohammed Hossain, 51, were accused of conspiring to provide material support to the Pakistan-based Islamic militant group Jaish-e-Mohammed, which is labeled a terrorist organization by the U.S. government.

Prosecutors had argued at trial that the men were driven by ideology and money, while defense lawyers countered that they were either entrapped by zealous prosecutors or were the victims of post-September 11 racial profiling.
“Aref, an Iraqi Kurd, was an imam at an Albany mosque and was in the United States as a refugee.”
Aref, an Iraqi Kurd, was an imam at an Albany mosque and was in the United States as a refugee. He was convicted on 10 counts including conspiracy, money laundering and providing material support to a terrorist organization. He faces up to 20 years in jail after which he will be deported to Iraq. Aref was also found guilty of falsely telling the FBI after his arrest that he did not know Mullah Krekar, founder of the Islamic Movement in Kurdistan and now a leader of Ansar al-Islam, an Iraqi insurgent group the United States has linked to al Qaeda.
“The two men were charged with laundering $50,000 from an FBI informant who said he worked for the militant group and received the money from selling a shoulder-fired missile.”
He was found not guilty of certain money laundering charges.

Hossain, a U.S. citizen and pizzeria owner originally from Bangladesh, was convicted on all counts against him including conspiracy, money laundering and providing material support to a terrorist organization. He faces up to 20 years in jail. Both men showed no emotion as the verdict was read in the packed courtroom. Sentencing was set for February 12. The two men were charged with laundering $50,000 from an FBI informant who said he worked for the militant group and received the money from selling a shoulder-fired missile.
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#1  huh. An imam at a mosque. Go figure
Posted by: Frank G || 10/11/2006 0:04 Comments || Top||

#2  From imam to inmate in one quick easy trial.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/11/2006 0:30 Comments || Top||

#3  This reminds me of a Frontline show I watched last night about all the follow-up convictions after 9/11 and plots to harm the US. I know, it was Frontline, and at first they did a good job (examined the Lodi, Calif. case, mentioned the GA Tech students here in Atlanta, and other smaller cases). Of course, at the end, it was all "they were interrogated harshly, and brought up on lesser charges" (like financial support of groups, being caught on tape expressing jihad, etc.). As if we want to wait until AFTER the next event happens to arrest people. Much like how the Feds took down the Mafia (through tax evasion and mail fraud charges), these "lesser" charges get rid of some nefarious jihadis that don't belong here. Can't wait to see what PBS has to say about this case.
Posted by: BA || 10/11/2006 10:06 Comments || Top||

#4  BA I was thinking the same thing. When I found out that the PBS Frontline show was done with the New York Times I knew we were in for a smoke job. With this morning's Albany news, the Frontline producers are left twisting in their Islamic terrorist excusing winds.

But why weren't these Muslims brought up on terrorist charges as a capital crime?! Lesser charges my ass. To me the Feds are being pussies. This is akin to plea agreements!

Spit.
Posted by: Icerigger || 10/11/2006 10:46 Comments || Top||

#5  Once they're convicted and imprisoned for one thing, it's easy enough to dig deeper and find other things to keep them there, and to track down all their connections. "Terrorism" or "conspiracy" are hard to get convictions on; "money laundering", on the other hand...
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/11/2006 13:57 Comments || Top||

#6  I have my doubts about this entire case. Here we have convicted terrorists from New York and nowhere is there any mention of Lackawanna. This whole thing is off of the rails.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/11/2006 14:45 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Qaeda men convicted for bombing US Consulate
KARACHI: An anti-terrorism court on Tuesday indicted two Al Qaeda activists for masterminding a car bombing near the US Consulate in Karachi on March 2, 2006 which killed four people, including US diplomat David Foy and three Pakistanis and left 48 injured. Osman Ghani and Anwarul Haq - the two convicts - however, denied the charges and pleaded not guilty. According to the prosecution, the alleged suicide attacker, later identified as Mohammad Tahir, rammed a car packed with explosives into a vehicle carrying a US diplomat soon after it left the consulate. The court already declared absconder Mohammad Zafar alias Qari Zafar, the alleged brains behind the operation, a proclaimed offender.
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LHC moved for Rauf's release
A relative of Rashid Rauf, the alleged mastermind behind the plot to blow up British airliners, filed a petition in the Rawalpindi Bench of the Lahore High Court (LHC) on Tuesday requesting that he be produced before the court and the details of the ongoing investigation against him be made public. Zahoor Akhtar, the brother-in-law of Rauf's mother, has filed the petition under Article 199 of the Constitution and has asked the court to release Rauf, as the investigation against him has so far failed to unearth any direct evidence linking him with the terror plot. The petitioner's counsel, Hashmat Habib, told Daily Times that the preliminary hearing of the case was expected to be held on next Friday.
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Kashmir Korpse Kount: 4
Four Indian soldiers and a suspected militant were killed on Tuesday in a fierce gunbattle in Indian-controlled Kashmir, police said. A combined force of police and soldiers were searching for the militants in Poonch district when they came under fire, said police chief SDS Jamwal. The force went into the area, some 220 kilometres northwest of Jammu, after receiving a tip about the presence militants there, Jamwal said. Reinforcements were deployed, and the firefight was ongoing, he said. Meanwhile, Indian police fired tear gas and used bamboo sticks to prevent hundreds of Kashmiri students protesting the scheduled execution of a Kashmiri man convicted of plotting a deadly attack on India's Parliament. There were no reports of casualties. Hundreds of students marched through the Kashmir University campus in Srinagar chanting slogans, such as "Down with the Indian Judiciary," and "We want freedom." When police tried to stop the march, the protesters clashed with the police.
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Lashkar suspect trail leads to Faisal Shaikh
Some months ago, the Intelligence Bureau (IB) had launched a search in the city for a Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) operative named Abu Ameen. They had little to go by except for a sketchy physical description—Ameen was believed to prefer a kurta and jeans—and a tip-off that he preferred to use public transport buses. The suspect, however, proved elusive.

In the wake of the 7/11 attacks, investigating agencies have concluded that Abu Ameen was none other than one of the masterminds of the serial train blasts, Faisal Shaikh, who is now in custody. The search for Ameen during May and June this year had thrown up a blank because the man had cleverly covered his tracks while building his network in Mumbai.

“Faisal Shaikh had chosen to remain clean-shaven and dressed in trendy outfits in a bid to look the part of an average young urbanite.”
Faisal Shaikh had chosen to remain clean-shaven and dressed in trendy outfits in a bid to look the part of an average young urbanite. His function as the Lashkar's key agent for handpicking youths for training in the use of arms and explosives was seemingly at odds with his lifestyle: Shaikh took to wearing jeans, T-shirts, sneakers and Ray-Ban sunglasses. He sported shoulder-length hair and rode a Pulsar motorcycle. He would also smoke expensive brands of cigarettes. When Faisal wanted to speak to a recruit, he would give him a missed call from a specific PCO and the recruit would then visit a pre-determined PCO phone booth where Faisal would call him up and convey instructions, sources said.

He had chosen the moniker Abu Ameen in Delhi to throw the police off his tracks. The name first cropped up during the interrogation of two LeT suspects, Mohammed Chipa and Feroz Ghaswala, both arrested by the special cell of the New Delhi police for carrying firearms and ammunition. The duo was also suspected to be involved in Delhi's Sarojini Nagar bomb blasts last Diwali.

“Chipa and Ghaswala also met LeT's commander Azam Cheema alias Baba at a training camp for militants in Bahwalpur. Baba, a professor of Islamic studies in Faisalabad, was the chief of the LeT's training wing.”
According to sources, the duo told the Delhi police that they were sent to Pakistan by one Abu Ameen. They said he was a resident of Mumbai and was in charge of sending youths to Pakistan for training. The two accused told the IB sleuths that Abu Ameen had sent many youths from Mumbai for training. Neither had his telephone numbers or his residential address. "Whenever Abu Ameen needed to, he would contact us," the duo told the police.

Chipa and Ghaswala had also met LeT's commander Azam Cheema alias Baba at a training camp for militants in Bahwalpur. Baba, a professor of Islamic studies in Faisalabad, was the chief of the LeT's training wing. Following their arrests, officers of the special cell had visited Mumbai and met the anti-terrorism squad (ATS) here to exchange notes. The case of the suspect named Abu Ameen was also raised. A description was sent to the intelligence agencies and local crime branch units. But until the blasts, Ameen remained elusive.
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Pak spy, associate held in south Delhi
Special Cell officials of Delhi Police claimed to have busted an espionage ring on Friday, following the arrest of an alleged spy, trained by Pakistan's Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) agency, and his associate from Madanpur Khadar in south Delhi.

Police recovered some sensitive documents pertaining to national security and some vital installations in Delhi Cantonment area from the duo. In a press release given out on Friday, DCP (special cell) Alok Kumar stated: "The accused had been identified as Mohammad Muzaffar Khan alias Ali Akbar Aslam alias Mujji, a spy trained by the ISI and hailing from Karachi, and Ali Rehman Jalal, an associate of Khan from Bangladesh.

According to police, Khan had come to Delhi some nine months back from Bangladesh, aided by an ISI agent based in Bangladesh, and had allegedly been staying with Jalal in Madanpur Khadar since then to carry on espionage activities. During interrogation, Khan revealed that in November 2005, he was given a Bangladeshi visa and a fake driving licence purportedly issued from the transit authority of Hissar, Haryana, an ATM card of Pakistani bank Alfalah and Rs 5,000 in cash. He was reportedly directed by ISI agent Jeeshan, his mentor, to contact another ISI agent in Bangladesh. All this was done to facilitate his entry into India, police claim.

In Bangladesh, Khan was provided with a fake Bangladeshi passport issued in the name of Islam Mia by the ISI contact. With the ISI agent's help, he came to Delhi and reached the house of Jalal. Khan carried on espionage activities with Jalal's aid, and passed information and documents to his ISI handlers. According to police, he created a new identity for himself, posing as Ali Akbar Aslam, and was in the process of acquiring Indian nationality with the help of fake documents that have been recovered from his possession.

Investigations have revealed that Khan is from Orangi town in Karachi, Pakistan, and pursued a diploma course from Karachi Polytechnic School after completing his schooling upto the tenth standard.
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Iraq
Officials Determine Mortar Caused Fire at Ammo Holding Area
WASHINGTON, Oct. 11, 2006 – An 82mm mortar round fired by Tater Tots militia forces from a nearby residential area caused yesterday’s fire at a Baghdad ammunition holding area around 10:40 p.m., officials with Multinational Division Baghdad announced today.

The fire ignited tank, artillery and small-arms ammunition at a forward operating base in the central Rasheed district of Baghdad.

"Intelligence indicates that civilians aligned with a militia organization were responsible for last night's mortar attack," Army Lt. Col. Jonathan Withington, a spokesman for Multinational Division Baghdad, said. I smell a Moqtada, not to be confused with an enchilada or a taco.

At the time of the attack, base personnel went to full alert. Attack aviation and unmanned aerial vehicles flew overhead in an attempt to locate the terrorists' mortar position. Soldiers and base employees were moved immediately to the safety of hardened buildings and structures on the base.

Firefighters from the base and hazardous material experts will continue to work toward extinguishing the fire, U.S. officials said. Engineers and explosive ordnance disposal teams will begin to clear unexploded ordnance on the base to facilitate follow-on engineer cleanup efforts.

The attack does not effect ongoing Baghdad security operations in the focus areas, and the loss of the ammunition will not degrade the operational capability of Multinational Division Baghdad, officials said.

The base' essential services were not disrupted, and all life support remains in place. No injuries were reported.


Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 10/11/2006 13:39 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Probably a really lucky shot. The Army is pretty tight when it comes to munitions storage. And POL, paint, compressed gasses, vehicles, and other imflamambles.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 10/11/2006 16:25 Comments || Top||

#2  Gee, glad to hear that "The attack does not effect ongoing Baghdad security operations"...
Posted by: mojo || 10/11/2006 16:34 Comments || Top||

#3  Somebody definately won the lottery. In my experience, the Hajjis are kinda fuzzy on the whole aiming thing.
Usualy they are in a real hurry too, to avoid the Preadator/Hellizap/counterbattery excitement -- which does not help accuracy.
Posted by: N guard || 10/11/2006 16:42 Comments || Top||


Shift to Baghdad leaves western Iraq in limbo
BAGHDAD, Iraq - For months, soldiers from the 172nd Stryker Brigade fought in riverside towns of western Iraq, trying to clamp off the flow of foreign fighters and suicide bombers that commanders said were terrorizing Baghdad.

Now hundreds of these same U.S. soldiers have been sent to deal with what U.S. officials say is an even greater threat - rising attacks between Sunnis and Shiites in the capital itself.

Left behind in the dusty towns along the Euphrates River in Anbar province are fewer U.S. troops - and fears that hard-won gains could be in jeopardy from a Sunni Arab insurgency that is far from defeated.

``Seeing the fruits of your labor lost is frustrating,'' said Capt. David Ramirez of the 4th Squadron, 14th Cavalry Regiment, who was sent to Baghdad from western Iraq.

The shift from Anbar to Baghdad underscores the problems facing the overstretched, 140,000-strong U.S. military force in Iraq.

To secure Baghdad, the Army had to extend the tours of thousands of soldiers from two brigades, including hundreds from the 172nd who had already returned home only to be shipped back to Iraq.

``We do not have sufficient troop strength to secure the entire country simultaneously,'' Andrew Krepinevich, a military analyst, said in an e-mail to The Associated Press. ``Trying to be strong everywhere will lead us to being strong nowhere.''

Krepinevich said he had personally recommended drawing down forces in western Anbar to U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad and Vice President Dick Cheney's staff.

Lt. Gen. Peter Chiarelli, the No. 2 commander in Iraq, defended the new strategy, saying it was necessary to ``winning the main effort.''

Chiarelli insisted the troops were moved from the less violent parts of Anbar province.

However, four Marines were killed July 29 by a suicide truck bombing in Rawah even as U.S. soldiers were pulling out of that area.

Commanders in Anbar have long complained privately that they do not have enough troops to control their area, which is about the size of South Carolina and includes notoriously violent cities such as Haditha, Rawah and Haqlaniyah.

``Any time you reduce forces it's a concern,'' said Marine Lt. Col. Norm Cooling, commander of the 3rd Battalion, 3rd Regiment which is scattered across western Anbar.

Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 10/11/2006 08:08 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  If the House and Senate are lost to Dummocrats in November, it will be because there have been strategic errors by this administration from very early in this occupation. Sadly, it continues. Most voters now feel it's time to leave. Nothing has been accomplished from the Bully Pulpit to dissuade them. This ongoing stupidity is ruinous.
Posted by: SpecOp35 || 10/11/2006 11:02 Comments || Top||

#2  'The shift from Anbar to Baghdad underscores the problems facing the overstretched, 140,000-strong U.S. military force in Iraq.'

Lets get some more troops in then?
Posted by: Tom || 10/11/2006 11:35 Comments || Top||

#3  There may well be issues, but Krepinivich is a suspect source. He is a long time Shinseki partisan and had his one-time National Defense Panel appointment in the Clinton administration. A political hack and a disgruntled extendee do not make authoritative sourcing, though they are par for the MSM. How 'bout somebody credible, like a milblogger on the scene?
Posted by: Nero || 10/11/2006 11:42 Comments || Top||

#4  Tom...Not to sound sarcastic, but from where? South Korea? Shorter rotations? Any other answer would take 3 to 5 years to (at the earliest)to implement assuming Federal regulation governing the number of active troops in the standing army is expanded.
Posted by: anymouse || 10/11/2006 13:51 Comments || Top||

#5  It's like polishing a turd.....
Posted by: Bama Marine || 10/11/2006 14:51 Comments || Top||

#6  Actually this is old news. This was mentioned in that assessment that was leaked to the press a few weeks ago.

We don't have enough troops to secure both Anbar and Baghdad, so we have to choose which one we want secure. We try to move troops back and forth fast enough to keep them from getting a firm foothold in any one place. This has been the problem from 2003.

Until the Iraqis have enough troops to take over, we will just be playing cat and mouse with these Jihadis.

If anyone deserves blame, it is Rumsfeld for not increasing the size of the Army and Marines in the aftermath of 9/11. He could have gotten it back then. Now the democrats are too committed to America's defeat in order to take over Congress.

Rumsfeld has a fighter pilot's infatuation with high tech gizmos, when what we need are more high skilled infantryman.

Al
Posted by: Frozen Al || 10/11/2006 15:29 Comments || Top||

#7  I have no expertise, and little opinion of a situation I am not briefed on, but it's the daily attacks upon Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and our war efforts in Iraq that are the problem here at home. Whether mistakes have been made or not, I can say that mistakes have always been made and if I were king, I'd kill many many people until mortar and rocket attacks seised. War in a tuxedo just doesn't cut it. When we are backed against the wall, then, we'll fight like we mean to win, not tie or gain the upper hand. WIN, kill them all and sort through the dead bodies. There never was another way to win.
Rather than becomming brutal, I notice the tendency to preach retreat. Barf !
Posted by: wxjames || 10/11/2006 15:48 Comments || Top||

#8  While all the Foghorn Leghorn politicians keep arguing in Washbag, the Marines in Anbar are holding a "Blivit". (Ten pounds of $hit, in a five pound bag!)
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 10/11/2006 16:06 Comments || Top||

#9  The reason I opine that Rumsy has to go is because nobody wants to do what has to be done.Its either blanket bomb the suspect areas or it is Vietnam..........It has nothing to do with Democrats. It has to do with the diplomacy of appeasement. Appease the Sunnis so they will join, appease the Shia so Iran will not join.............We should consult the Kurds, since they know what they are doing...............
Posted by: Cleaque Omavimble7481 || 10/11/2006 16:17 Comments || Top||

#10  I call BULLSH*T! The reason that we don't have more troops is because every time Congress authorizes an increase to manpower levels in the military {and Congress has written into LAW how many people we can have in the military}, they deliberately fail to fund the personnel pay at the same time. So, all personnel expenses then come out of the Operating Budget, cutting down on weapons, munitions, and equipment. If the Demos in Congress were so damned concerned about troop numbers, why is it that each time there has been a troop number increase, it is the Demos that stonewall and vote against the personnel pay budget that would cover them? We are still living with the limits that Congress wrote into law in the 1990s, back when the Demos had the House, the Senate, and the Presidency. And each time the defense budget is debated, the Demos scream about how much money is being "taken away from women and children to pay for bombs". We can easily field twice as many troops as we have today, we did it in the 1990s WITHOUT a draft. The major problem with accomplishing that is the budget will have to be modified back to the level of 1990, which will cut out a ton of pork barrel social services that a majority of Demos have made their rationale for elections.
So, in conclusion, Rumsfeld is not to blame for troop levels, Congress is; and so is every bastard sucking up the pork barrel spending, welfare fraud, and feel-good social engineering pablum fobbed off on the American public. Because, you can either fund the bullsh*t or the military, not both.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 10/11/2006 17:19 Comments || Top||

#11  Good post, Shieldwolf. Cuts to the bone.
Posted by: .com || 10/11/2006 17:37 Comments || Top||

#12  Shield -
Actually, you can fund both the BS and the military - if you increase taxes. The Dems will increase the taxes, but they still won't fund the military. Heck, if they would, I might not be so opposed to the increased taxes.
Posted by: Glenmore || 10/11/2006 18:39 Comments || Top||

#13  If anyone deserves blame, it is Rumsfeld for not increasing the size of the Army and Marines in the aftermath of 9/11. He could have gotten it back then

Skilled infantrymen don't just come because you order them up. Even if Rumsfeld agreed with your assessment of need, increasing the number of skilled warfighters means pulling key NCOs out for training duty (among other things). It has significant logistics implications, and it might actually be pretty hard to do just on the basis of training ground availability for exercises, since in the 90s Congress in its wisdom imposed environmental controls on tank ranges etc.
Posted by: lotp || 10/11/2006 18:45 Comments || Top||

#14  Currently, the accepted time frame for ground up activation of a division is 3-5 years. Standard American division is 18,000 troops - more or less depending on structure. Add in all of the weapons, equipment, gear, trucks, APCs, helicopters, etc - standard projected costs is 5-7 billion dollars per division.
To effective double the American Army alone would require 9 full divisions with all of their equipment. So 162,000 men and 63 billion dollars to double the force. And that does not count consumables per year or individual pay and benefits. Plus 5 years lead time.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 10/11/2006 20:06 Comments || Top||

#15  Unless, of course, you are willing to accept WWII early casualty rates until the troops are sufficiently blooded to be truly effective. Or unless you are willing to split off half of the effectives from each existing divisions and splice in raw recruits to make up the difference. Which again leads to WWII casualty rates.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 10/11/2006 20:40 Comments || Top||

#16  Would that even work, Shieldwolf? We're a long way from the army of grunts that fought WWII.
Posted by: lotp || 10/11/2006 21:11 Comments || Top||

#17  as a father of one in bootcamp, I'd prefer they take the "quality" view rather than quantity, which tends to encourage mass assaults rather than intelligence-led battles. The draft is a bad thing poltically, and institutionally for our military. I'd rather my son serve with willing volunteer soldiers, properly trained and skilled, than a bunch of disgruntled misfits who'd rather be elsewhere. The Donks won't match their mouth with the necessary dollars to increase the military (especially in a job-growth economy), all their bluster is BS for PR consumption. "I'm John Kerry, and I'm reporting to duty"
Posted by: Frank G || 10/11/2006 21:57 Comments || Top||

#18  Well said, Frank G. You're on a roll tonight.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/11/2006 23:20 Comments || Top||

#19  The current Armed Forces size is adequate for the current policy of stalemate. So as long as Americans are willing to pursue democratic subversion of islamic dictatorships and are willing to tolerate demographic replacement at home and the occasional 9-11 type attacks, then all is fine.
Posted by: ed || 10/11/2006 23:31 Comments || Top||

#20  Actually, I think the policy follows the public will, more or less lol. Exceptions, such as immigration, defy the simple solutions so go well beyond the average attention span and capacity for rational thought. So I'm saying it's that democracy thingy. The bully pulpit is largely drowned out by the fourth estate allies of the fifth column, methinks.

That is not to say that there will not be a great Hue & Cry™ when we get hit again, distracting the Great American Public from Suri's turds and Foley's IMs. Then they will turn on whomever is in the Big Chair and demand, uh, stuff. :-)
Posted by: .com || 10/11/2006 23:44 Comments || Top||


Fire Erupts at U.S. Ammo Depot in Iraq
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - A fire broke out at an ammunition depot at a U.S. base in southern Baghdad on Tuesday night, setting off a series of explosions from detonating tank and artillery shells that shook buildings miles away. The U.S. military said there were no immediate reports of casualties.

It was not clear whether the depot at Forward Operating Base Falcon was hit by an attack. The cause of the fire was not immediately known, said Lt. Col. Christopher C. Garver, a military spokesman.

Explosions from detonating tank and artillery ordnance and small-arms ammunition stored at the site went off for hours after the fire erupted. Large flames and smoke rose from the region, and flashes from the blasts and showers of sparks were visible on the horizon from several miles away in central Baghdad, where the force of the blasts could be felt. The blasts came at times sporadically, at times in rapid succession, lasting into the night. Helicopters were seen in the night sky flying over the area.

The blaze broke out in an ammunition holding area, where material is kept temporarily before distribution to the units at Falcon, said Lt. Col. Jonathan Withington, a spokesman at the base. He said more than three battalions were stationed there at the time of the fire but he would not give a specific number of troops. ``There is a lot of ammunition there, but it's not a full storage depot,'' he said. ``This does not degrade our operational ability at all.'' He said the cause of the fire was under investigation.

Falcon is located in a former commercial trucking depot in a sprawling industrial area at the southern entrance of Baghdad. It lies on the main highway heading south of Baghdad. Much of the area around it is sparsely populated, but on the opposite side of the highway, about 600 yards away, are residential neighborhoods.
Posted by: Steve White || 10/11/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Doesn't matter whether or not it was enemy action, they'll claim it was a "Huge Victory" anyway.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 10/11/2006 6:17 Comments || Top||

#2  R.J. called it:

Baghdad, 11 Oct. (AKI) - The insurgent attack which triggered an explosion at a munitions dump inside the US military base at al-Doura, in southern Baghdad, was the work of two insurgent factions with a third terrorist group acting as back up support, according to a statement from one of the factions, the Salahuddin al-Ayyubi Brigades. The attack, on Tuesday night, was initially claimed by the Islamic Army in Iraq, however they also relied on a second group calling itself "The Conqueror's Army". The sequence of the attack was filmed and the video posted to the Internet by the third group, the Salahuddin al Ayyubi Brigades, which followed the event at a distance.
The group takes its name from a Muslim victory over the Christian crusader forces in 1187 under the leadership of Salahuddin Al-Ayyubi.

The attack began with the launch of various missiles which struck the base. According to the US command, one of these struck a munitions dump and as a result there were some 30 explosions which could be heard a long distance away and which shook nearby areas.

Posted by: Steve || 10/11/2006 9:22 Comments || Top||

#3  From CentCom press release:

"Multi-National Division – Baghdad has determined that an 82mm mortar round, fired by militia forces from a residential area in Abu T-Shir, caused the fire at an ammunition holding area at approximately 10:40 p.m. Tuesday."
Posted by: Glenmore || 10/11/2006 11:22 Comments || Top||

#4  abu T-Shirt? we're doomed.
Posted by: RD || 10/11/2006 12:19 Comments || Top||

#5  My guess is that there are a few privates who are going to be shitting size ten for a week, if they can even get their CO's boot out of their ass. Fires in your ammo depot suggest sloppiness.
Posted by: WhitecollarRedneck || 10/11/2006 12:51 Comments || Top||

#6  WR-
Would you like to make a friendly wager that somebody was trying to demil a souveneir they wanted to take home? Some years back some serious damage was done at old Myrtle Beach AFB, SC, when a couple of idiots tried to remove the primer from an A-10's 30mm round...with a propane torch.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 10/11/2006 14:07 Comments || Top||

#7  Mike, that's a great story!
Posted by: WhitecollarRedneck || 10/11/2006 18:29 Comments || Top||


Police find 60 bodies in Baghdad, bomb kills 10
Iraqi police found 60 bodies dumped across Baghdad in the 24 hours up to Tuesday morning, the apparent victims of sectarian death squads blamed for escalating violence that threatens to pitch the country into civil war. Most of the 60 bodies, victims of the deaths squads who roam Baghdad torturing and killing at will, had been shot in the head execution-style, an Interior Ministry official told Reuters. Some of the victims, all men, had been blindfolded or bound, said the official, who did not want to be named. Some had severe bruising, often a sign of beating, or broken limbs.

A bomb placed under a car outside a bakery in the mostly Sunni Arab southern Baghdad district of Doura exploded at midday, reducing the shop to rubble and killing 10 people, many who had been queuing outside to buy bread, police said.

A fire broke out at an ammunition dump at a U.S. base in southern Baghdad on Tuesday, causing a series of explosions that rocked the capital, the U.S. military said. The cause of the fire, which lit up the night sky, was not immediately known.
Posted by: Fred || 10/11/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


U.S.-led forces say kill 11 in Iraqi Shi'ite city
U.S. and Iraqi troops killed 11 militants, many dressed as Iraqi policeman, in clashes around a mosque in the flashpoint southern Shi'ite city of Diwaniya on Monday night, the U.S. military said on Tuesday. The military said the fighting erupted after militants opened fire on a routine joint U.S.-Iraqi patrol, but a senior representative of radical Shi'ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr in the city said the troops had been trying to arrest him.

The fighting follows fierce street battles in the city. The U.S. military said 30 militants were killed and a U.S. tank severely damaged when U.S. and Iraqi troops entered Diwaniya on Sunday to detain a "high-value target". The suspect was accused of involvement in the summary execution of 13 Iraqi soldiers who ran out of ammunition and were captured during a firefight with Shi'ite militiamen in the town in August. The U.S. military did not identify the target of Sunday's raid but he was believed to be a leader of Sadr's Mehdi Army. The militia has a strong presence in the city's southern districts.

The deputy manager of Sadr's office in Diwaniya, Khudair al-Ansari, said his bodyguards had clashed with U.S. forces on Monday as they tried to arrest him outside al-Qaim mosque at dusk, as Muslims were breaking their day-long Ramadan fast. "I was expecting this. I was sure they would try to arrest me," Ansari told Reuters, adding that he had deliberately been staying away from mosques during the holy month of Ramadan.
Posted by: Fred || 10/11/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Would-be suicide bomber killed near Karni Crossing
A suicide attack was thwarted Tuesday night after IDF troops shot and killed a Palestinian wearing an explosives belt after he tried to infiltrate into Israel from the Gaza Strip, the army announced Wednesday.
check news.google.com or news.yahoo.com for this story. there are just a few, and mostly from Israeli or Jewish news outlets. the MSM picks up more about Paris Hilton than about these events. No wonder the rest of the world views Israel as the aggressor. -- they're clueless about these regular attacks on Israel.

The Palestinian was spotted by soldiers after he tried to enter Israel near the Karni Crossing. He was shot and killed. Soldiers later found his body, strapped with an explosive belt ready to be detonated.

The would-be terrorist's body was transferred back to Gaza on Tuesday night.
I don't understand why. I wish they'd instead throw the body into a pit with a ham sandwich in his mouth. I guess they do it in order to get their own back (which they don't). Or perhaps because they try to maintain a level of decency.

Another Palestinian man was shot and killed overnight Tuesday in Nablus, near the security fence. According to the army, the man was armed and had attacked the troops. Palestinians claimed, however, that the man was standing by the window in a nearby house when he was hit.

Early Wednesday morning, also in Nablus, IDF troops shot and killed another terror suspect.

Relatives identified the man as Abdullah Mansour, 31, a member of the Aksa Martyrs' Brigades, who was wanted by Israel. They said he was killed inside his home by a single bullet to the head as he looked outside his window at gun battles taking place outside between terror operatives and IDF troops.

Meanwhile, in overnight arrest operations, the IDF detained 19 terror suspects in the area of the security fence. The suspects were transferred to security forces for interrogation.
Posted by: PlanetDan || 10/11/2006 07:25 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  even if he was just watching the gun battle i suppose the bullet went where it was supposed too
Posted by: sinse || 10/11/2006 8:38 Comments || Top||

#2  The Palestinian was spotted by soldiers after he tried to enter Israel near the Karni Crossing. He was shot and killed. Soldiers later found his body, strapped with an explosive belt ready to be detonated.

No virgins for you!
Posted by: Paradise Nazi || 10/11/2006 22:36 Comments || Top||

#3  I'm a little confused as to whether the Paleos are 0 for 2, or 0 for 3. Were there two guys shot in Nablus? I'm not sure, but either way it sounds a job well done.
Posted by: Scooter McGruder || 10/11/2006 22:45 Comments || Top||


Israeli strike hits Hamas leader's home
AN Israeli missile hit the Gaza Strip home of a well known lawmaker from the governing Islamist group Hamas today in what the army said was an attack on a weapons factory.

There were no reports of casualties in the strike in Gaza on the building of Mariam Farhat, better known as Umm Nidal, who has often voiced pride at the death of three of her six sons during a Palestinian uprising. Residents were warned in advance of the attack. Israel has frequently carried out such strikes on buildings it says are used by militants during a three-month-old Gaza offensive to try to recover a captured soldier and stop cross-border rocket fire.

"There was an air strike on a weapons storage and manufacturing facility," an army spokeswoman said. The building was badly damaged.

Mr Farhat was one of the best known of the Hamas parliamentarians elected in January when the Islamist group dedicated to destroying Israel defeated moderate Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas's Fatah. Mr Farhat first won attention for appearing with her 17-year-old son Mohammed in a video recorded before he carried out a shooting attack on a Jewish settlement in 2000 in which he killed five people before being shot dead.

Israel abandoned its Gaza Strip settlements in September 2005, but launched an offensive in the territory in June after the abduction of the soldier in a raid over the border by Palestinian militants, including Hamas's armed wing. Since then, Israel has also detained dozens of Hamas officials, including ministers and lawmakers, in the West Bank.
Posted by: Oztralian || 10/11/2006 00:28 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  a Paleo planting a bomb is considered a "civilian" by them
Posted by: Frank G || 10/11/2006 0:33 Comments || Top||

#2  What the hell is a Hamas "Lawmaker"? Now we're ascribing to them the ability to make laws? I guess the women-and-children-killing list was full that day.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 10/11/2006 0:36 Comments || Top||

#3  There were no reports of casualties in the strike in Gaza on the building of Mariam Farhat, better known as Umm Nidal, who has often voiced pride at the death of three of her six sons during a Palestinian uprising.

Shoot her other three sons and then she how proud she manages to be. This is one sick, twisted woman. I will quote Golda Meir:

We can forgive the Arabs for killing our children. We cannot forgive them for forcing us to kill their children. We will only have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us.

Mr Farhat first won attention for appearing with her 17-year-old son Mohammed in a video recorded before he carried out a shooting attack on a Jewish settlement in 2000 in which he killed five people before being shot dead.

Making her an accomplice before the fact. She needs to watch her other three sons die and then catch a slug herself. This disgusting piece of human filth exemplifies everything that is wrong with the Palestinian people. She knowingly sent her child off to die in a futile gesture of murderous self-destruction and then has the audacity to brag about it. She may as well have given birth to hand grenades.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/11/2006 0:44 Comments || Top||

#4  Next time, skip the phone call...
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/11/2006 14:35 Comments || Top||

#5  Good point, Geek. As far as I know, there is not a "Lawmaker" in Palestine. Not ONE.
Posted by: newc || 10/11/2006 19:03 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Twelve killed in Philippines blast
COTABATO: Twelve people were killed late on Tuesday and at least 42 injured in a bomb blast in southern Philippines, officials and police said. The bomb exploded in the town of Makilala on the southern island of Mindanao during a celebration to mark the town's 52nd anniversary, said Mayor Honofre Respicio. No one claimed responsibility for the blast.

Earlier on Tuesday four people were injured when a bomb planted by suspected Muslim extremists exploded in the busy market of Tacurong City, just 50 kilometres from Makilala, North Cotabato province.
Posted by: Fred || 10/11/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Retaliation for the takedown of a JI house and the detainment of the family of a known JI. It is also the bombing season in Asia. I would expect more this month and bombings to slow by Nov.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 10/11/2006 15:48 Comments || Top||

#2  How does one dress for bombing season? Layers, so one is still modestly attired after stripping off the the gooey bits, perhaps patterned with red so the blood doesn't show?

/dear God, I can't believe I actually thought that. So sorry!
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/11/2006 23:27 Comments || Top||

#3  Bare midriffs, mandatory for the religion of peaceniks.
Posted by: ed || 10/11/2006 23:34 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks
Abu Yahya al-Libi urges fighters to hit White House
A man believed to be a top al Qaeda militant who escaped from a U.S. jail near Kabul was shown in a new videotape broadcast on Tuesday exhorting followers in Afghanistan to fight on until they attack the White House.
“Allah will not be pleased until we reach the rooftop of the White House...”
"Allah will not be pleased until we reach the rooftop of the White House," Abu Yahya al-Libbi was shown telling fighters in the tape aired by the Dubai-based Al-Arabiya television.

The channel said the tape was one-hour long, showing footage of Libi urging fighters to train hard and even to try to acquire nuclear technology. "You have to get well prepared by starting with exercise, and then you have to learn how to use technology until you are capable of nuclear weapons," he said.

“You have to get well prepared by starting with exercise, and then you have to learn how to use technology until you are capable of nuclear weapons...”
Libi was shown in the footage bearded and wearing a long grey Muslim robe while standing in front of a group of fighters. Libi is believed to be the alias of Libyan Mohammad Hassan who along with three other al Qaeda militants broke out of the U.S. jail at Bagram Air Base last year. Analysts say he is an influential militant preacher, better known for recruiting fighters than for actual combat.

Arabiya said the authenticity of the tape could not be verified, but experts had told its bureau in Afghanistan the video was filmed in the southeast of the country.
Posted by: Fred || 10/11/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  See also ASIA TIMES > SPEAKING FREELY section guest writer > NORKOR NUKE TEST(S), etc. > WAR IS COMING TO US SOIL. Basic Message - the USA in any DPRK-USA WAR will turned into a radioactive hell-hole, US cities will burn. *Yoohoo, Dubya, can we have a draft now!?
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/11/2006 5:54 Comments || Top||

#2  when are you gonna learn too post where someone might actually know what the hell you are talking about if they didn't see your bullshit everyday joseph?
Posted by: sinse || 10/11/2006 8:43 Comments || Top||

#3  That's half the fun. And have some respect - Joe's been around a lot longer than you. We like him.
Posted by: Pappy || 10/11/2006 9:39 Comments || Top||

#4  Analysts say he is an influential militant preacher, better known for recruiting fighters than for actual combat.

Big surprise there. He probably was driven back to his luxury pad in Islamabad afterwards, laughing at all the rubes.
Posted by: Pappy || 10/11/2006 9:43 Comments || Top||

#5  ......someone might actually know what the hell you are talking about.....

It's when you read Joe and you understand what he's saying that you should begin to worry. I know I do.
Posted by: Steve || 10/11/2006 9:51 Comments || Top||

#6  "Allah will not be pleased until we reach the rooftop of the White House,"

Whaddya mean "we", whitey?
Posted by: AQ Grunt || 10/11/2006 10:04 Comments || Top||

#7  Joe, you have to wait until Hillary takes over to get the draft. Ironic, huh?
Posted by: Sleaper Thraviter2776 || 10/11/2006 10:08 Comments || Top||

#8  ......someone might actually know what the hell you are talking about.....

In fact, I think most of the time I get the main idea of JM's tirade.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/11/2006 10:24 Comments || Top||

#9  Leave it to Al-Reuters to call Mooslum terrorist, "Fighters".

Can we please shoot the MSM Islamic propagandist already? Or at least hang a couple down at Ground Zero. Something Bushie hasn't got the balls to do.
Posted by: Icerigger || 10/11/2006 10:32 Comments || Top||

#10  Sinse, we make allowances for some here, as you probably know. Yes, JM's rants are sometimes convoluted, sometimes rambling, sometimes irrelevant, and he does have a TENDENCY TO YELL AND SCREAM AND USE SYMBOLS=CONNECTIONS>To get to the point. However, I agree with anon5089. I get it most of the time. Besides, I'm in the process of designing the USS Joseph Mendiola, upon the urging of my fellow RB'ers. If he were not unique, I could never justify the cost of designing a ship bearing his name. You Go, JM.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 10/11/2006 10:34 Comments || Top||

#11  Sinse,
Joe and his ways are a treasured institution here at the Burg. Back off.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 10/11/2006 10:54 Comments || Top||

#12  Besides > This is RANTBURG > Don't LIKE it? > Then LEAVE > BUSH reads RANTBURG > Do MORE!!> Keep POSTING JM!!!!>
Posted by: Dreadnought || 10/11/2006 10:58 Comments || Top||

#13  Also, to make it challenging, JM is typing with his feet. Makes sinse to me.
Posted by: wxjames || 10/11/2006 11:26 Comments || Top||

#14  JOE 2008
Posted by: GORT || 10/11/2006 11:40 Comments || Top||

#15  "better known for recruiting fighters than for actual combat."

Libi aka Nancy.
Posted by: bool || 10/11/2006 12:02 Comments || Top||

#16  Or would that be Al-Nancy...
Posted by: bool || 10/11/2006 12:02 Comments || Top||

#17  When will these people learn that they need to move out of the stone age to get nuclear weapons, I mean come on... who still uses video tapes?
Posted by: Tom || 10/11/2006 12:05 Comments || Top||

#18  "You have to get well prepared by... and then you have to learn how to... until you..."
Yeah, you cannon fodder -- you do that while I hold down the fort here and make inspirational videos.
Posted by: Darrell || 10/11/2006 12:13 Comments || Top||

#19  I think we're all just a little frustrated that our nomination of dear JosephM to replace UN secretary General Dr. Kofi Annan was not taken as seriously by the powers that be as it deserved. I'm sure Mr. Ban is a lovely man, but he will never accomplish the classic toast, "Confusion to the enemy!" as Rantburg's own JosephM would have done.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/11/2006 14:04 Comments || Top||

#20  15,16

Nancy Paleocy (Savage dixit)
Posted by: SwissTex || 10/11/2006 19:37 Comments || Top||


Good morning
Anti-violence activist arrested for burglary, assaultMore N-tests unless US makes concessions, says PyongyangPolice find 60 bodies in Baghdad, bomb kills 10Lebanese army has confiscated Hezbollah armsAbu Yahya al-Libi urges fighters to hit White HouseMadrassas still host 1,000 foreignersTwo Muslims found guilty in Albany sting case
Posted by: Fred || 10/11/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  They always had great gams in the old days. That was the golden age for leg men.
Posted by: Jonathan || 10/11/2006 0:10 Comments || Top||

#2  yikes! I have a cousin named Marla. She's cutem, but don't look nothing like that, otherwise....


nevermind
Posted by: Frank G || 10/11/2006 0:11 Comments || Top||

#3  cutem? I've become a Muckster
Posted by: Frank G || 10/11/2006 0:11 Comments || Top||

#4  She could make me go "English only".
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 10/11/2006 0:31 Comments || Top||

#5  Legs?
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 10/11/2006 6:00 Comments || Top||

#6  The drop-shadow man dropped by the pressroom.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/11/2006 6:40 Comments || Top||

#7  She's got legs. She knows how to use them.
Posted by: Z.Z. Top || 10/11/2006 8:00 Comments || Top||

#8  Her film biog says a 36-22-36 figure. In general I assume such a measurement is nearly impossible; however, the picture confirms it. She was in some notable horror movies and got typecast. Too bad.

Posted by: mhw || 10/11/2006 8:28 Comments || Top||

#9  When I was a handsom, young man, my honey was 38-22-36. Eventually, she dumped me, and now I'm screwed up to the core.
Posted by: wxjames || 10/11/2006 9:36 Comments || Top||

#10  hey, but at least she gave you self-awareness, which is nice
Posted by: Frank G || 10/11/2006 10:34 Comments || Top||

#11  I'm glad I speak English.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 10/11/2006 11:06 Comments || Top||

#12  Wxjames - I feel for ya bud. The one that got away for me was stunningly beautiful, deaf and mute. For the two years she kept me around she never said a thing. Not.One.Word.
Now that I think about it, she may in fact have been the perfect woman. (Excepting the Rantburgettes of course.)

Heavy sigh.
Posted by: GORT || 10/11/2006 11:23 Comments || Top||

#13  Gort: did she stand to inherit a chain of liquor stores? if yes, then 'perfect' is the correct answer.......
Posted by: USN, ret. || 10/11/2006 14:27 Comments || Top||

#14  Now that I think about it, she may in fact have been the perfect woman.

Did she have pistol-grip ears? >:-)
Posted by: gorb || 10/11/2006 15:13 Comments || Top||

#15  gorb, the guy was in love with her, show a little respect.
Posted by: wxjames || 10/11/2006 15:51 Comments || Top||

#16  USN,ret: Don't forget the fourth attribute - oversexed!
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 10/11/2006 16:11 Comments || Top||

#17  The above comes from a toast presented by a fomer Marine Fighter Jock/turned Comedian, named Woody Woodbury.

"At last I've found the perfect girl
No man could ask for more
She's deaf and dumb and oversexed
And owns a Liquor Store"

Drunk accent when reciting makes it sound better.
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 10/11/2006 16:19 Comments || Top||

#18  gorb, the guy was in love with her, show a little respect.

Sorry. Next time I'll think it and not say it. :-)
Posted by: gorb || 10/11/2006 17:52 Comments || Top||

#19  I used to have a helmet with the following message on the top:

"Leggo my ears - I know what I'm doin'."

Confirmation is unmistakable.
Posted by: .com || 10/11/2006 17:55 Comments || Top||

#20  Now that sounds like a jihadi nightmare!

mhw, much can be accomplished with the right girdle, which it appears to me the lady is wearing. Although, admittedly I had a high school classmate of even more startling proportions -- back in the 1970s when girdles had gone the way of all flesh, thank goodness; but she was of pure Italian descent, fated to become cylindrical like her mother.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/11/2006 17:57 Comments || Top||



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