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Afghanistan
U.S.-led offensive against Taliban easing
U.S.-led coalition forces detained four suspected al-Qaida operatives in eastern Afghanistan on Saturday, while a major operation to crush Taliban fighters in the south moved to a close, officials said. The al-Qaida suspects, accused of planning attacks on coalition and Afghan forces, were nabbed near Sal Kalay, a village in Khost province, along with assault rifles and a briefcase containing "extremist-related documents," a coalition statement said. The coalition did not give the suspects' names, nationalities or indicate their seniority within the terror group.

The commander of the NATO-led security force in Afghanistan said a massive U.S.-led offensive that has killed more than 600 suspected Taliban in the south will end when NATO takes over command from the coalition in the volatile region on Monday. ??? The 8,000-strong NATO force of mostly British, Canadian and Dutch troops formally takes over in the south from the U.S.-led coalition Monday.

Meanwhile, officials said U.S.-led coalition forces and Afghan police killed or wounded 18 suspected Taliban militants in fighting that also left two policemen dead. Fourteen militants were killed or injured by airstrikes and artillery in Garmser district of the southern Helmand province on Thursday, said provincial police chief Ghulam Nabi Malakhel.
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Operation Mountain Thrust will wrap up as NATO steps in, though it will "keep up the tempo" of operations against the insurgents, said British Lt. Gen. David Richards, commander of NATO-led International Security Assistance Force.

Since June 10, more than 10,000 Afghan and coalition forces have fanned out across the south in response to an upsurge in Taliban attacks. The coalition said it has killed 600 insurgents, while at least 19 coalition troops have died during the same period, according to an Associated Press count of coalition figures.

Richards said he did not expect the coalition — whose primary goal was to fight global Islamic militants like al-Qaida that are active in eastern Afghanistan — to operate for much longer in the south, where the insurgency is led by the Taliban. NATO brings a new strategy for dealing with the Taliban rebellion, establishing bases rather than adopting the coalition tactic of chasing down militants. It wants to bolster the weak government of President Hamid Karzai and win the support of local people by promoting much-needed development.

Richards said he hoped that within three to six months there would be signs of progress, creating secure zones in which aid workers could operate in a region mired in the drug trade and poverty. Reconstruction would help people see "the fighting is worth something," Richards told a news conference in Kabul. "I hope people who now are often being intimidated into supporting the Taliban" would have the extra resolve to reject them.

He said NATO forces would be "really, really careful" to avoid civilian losses, but would be as tough in defending themselves as the coalition had been. Civilian deaths during coalition military action — often involving air power and heavy weaponry — has complicated the NATO force's task of winning over a skeptical Pashtun tribal populace.
Posted by: ed || 07/29/2006 19:48 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Huh. If you define 'defending yourself' as making sure your little castles are safe you'll cede the rest of the land to the Taliban.

Oh well I suppose Unka Sam can come back and scare the bad men away for you
Posted by: Oldcat || 07/29/2006 20:17 Comments || Top||

#2  Taliban indigenous resistance bleeds U.S.-led troops to a halt. While Taliban fighters celebrate NATO and Rumsfeld confer to plan likely pull out of all Afghanistan forces.
Posted by: AP Rapporteur || 07/29/2006 21:58 Comments || Top||

#3  32:1 is a sa-weeeet kill ratio!
Posted by: Brett || 07/29/2006 23:37 Comments || Top||

#4  It is a tactical evolution from a dynamic pursuit to consolidating gains.

There is a law of diminishing returns for the former, where enemy contacts drop off so much that it just isn't worth it to continue. So at that point, you advance the civilian authority to take charge over the land you've cleared.

In other words, it takes a lot of police to sweep a bad neighborhood, but once it's swept, it just takes a few police to keep it reasonably crime free. So the emphasis can change to solving the underlying problems, like development, so that the neighborhood will *want* to stay crime free.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 07/29/2006 23:52 Comments || Top||


Afghan officials claim capturing 13 fighters in Helmand
(AIP): Local officials of Helmand province claimed to have captured 13 fighters in on Friday. District in-charge of Garmser district of Helmand province, Ghulam Rasool while giving details to Afghan Islamic Press said, “Police ambushed Taliban in Garmser district today’s morning (July 28) and captured 13 fighters.” He said the Taliban fighters were riding two vehicles. Garmser district as known as Hazara Juft is 80 kilometers to sought of Lashkargah, capital of Helmand province. A few days back Taliban captured the same district for some time.

Taliban dismiss govt’s claim of capturing 13 fighters in Helmand
(AIP): Taliban on Friday dismissed Afghan officials claim of arresting 13 fighters in Helmand province today (July 28). Spokesman of Taliban fighters Qari Muhammad Yousaf phoned the office of Afghan Islamic Press and said, “This false as no Talib fighter has been captured by government. They might have captured civilians and named them Taliban.”

The in-charge of Garmser district of Helmand Province earlier claimed that police captured 13 fighters after an ambush today in Garmser district. The Taliban spokesman claimed that Taliban fighters blew up an ANA vehicle with landmine in Atghar district of Zabul province today (July 28).
Posted by: Fred || 07/29/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Africa Horn
Cargo Planes Flying into Mog
h/t Jawa Report.
For the second time this week, a large plane arrived in the Islamists-controlled Somali capital of Mogadishu Friday, carrying an unknown cargo. But many people believe it contains weapons from Eritrea, which the Islamist leadership in Somalia denies.

A Russian-made Illuyshin-76 cargo plane touched down early Friday morning at the recently reopened Mogadishu airport. It had the same Kazakhstan Airways markings as a plane that landed Wednesday. In both cases, there was extraordinary security. Islamic militiamen sealed off all roads and prevented curious on-lookers from gathering near the facility. But some eyewitnesses said that they saw several large trucks leaving the airport in a convoy a short while after the plane landed.
So it prob'ly wasn't delivering food aid.
The arrival of the two planes this week is fueling speculation among Somalis that neighboring Eritrea is helping to arm Somali Islamists, who are facing a possible showdown with Ethiopian troops, believed to be protecting the country's secular and highly vulnerable interim government, which has its headquarters 250 kilometers away in the town of Baidoa.

Deputy Interim Prime Minister Ismail Hurreh in Baidoa tells VOA that his government is receiving intelligence that Eritrea is not only supplying Islamists with arms, but has also sent troops to back up the Islamic militias. "We are getting highly reliable information that a vessel has unloaded 500 Eritrean fighters along the Somali coast, and they are going to join with forces in Mogadishu," said Hurreh. "For Eritrea to simply come to Somalia to fight a proxy war against Ethiopia will fuel trouble in the whole region."
So Somalia is now officially a proxy war.
In Mogadishu, a spokesman for the Supreme Islamic Council that controls the capital and much of the south of the country dismissed unconfirmed reports that Eritreans are in Mogadishu and in other parts of Islamists-controlled areas of southern Somalia. The spokesman, Abdurahim Ali Mudi, also denies that the Islamists are accepting weapons shipments from Eritrea.
"Lies! All lies!"
Mudi says there are enough weapons in Somalia, and the aim of his group is to make the country secure by taking them off the streets, not bring more weapons into the country.
A disarmed populace is a quiet populace.
Posted by: Steve White || 07/29/2006 13:53 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Another clusterf**k courtesy of the United Nations.
Posted by: phil_b || 07/29/2006 14:12 Comments || Top||

#2  With all the navies in the area - why are these planes not having accidents?
Posted by: 3dc || 07/29/2006 14:27 Comments || Top||

#3  Who's to know, could have been just been bananas. Re-arm, re-fit, fight on till there ain't none left. US stay the phuech OUT OF IT! Entire bloody region isn't worth a warm pale of piss.
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/29/2006 17:48 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Over 30 gunmen surrender in Chechnya amnesty
(RIA Novosti) - More than 30 gunmen have surrendered to federal law-enforcement officers in Chechnya in an amnesty, the National Anti-Terrorism Committee said Friday. "Thirty-three gunmen have given themselves up after the chairman of the National Anti-Terrorism Committee and head of the Federal Security Service, Nikolai Patrushev, declared an amnesty July 15 for those gunmen who surrender," the committee said. The committee said 27 gunmen had laid down arms in Chechnya, three in Daghestan and another three in Ingushetia, all North Caucasus republics in Russia.
Posted by: Fred || 07/29/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  More than 30 gunmen have surrendered to federal law-enforcement officers in Chechnya in an amnesty, the National Anti-Terrorism Committee said Friday.

if true..in the past, some of the former "rebels" who got amnesty are working for Russians today..

and some of them btw are brutally effective. One guy in particular, who I can visualize but can't remember the name, is currently enjoying great hunting.

really nice folks in a diverse folklorico kinda way...
Posted by: RD || 07/29/2006 1:31 Comments || Top||


Fifth Column
Would You Believe ... Missed Fisk by That Much!
On a Red Cross mission of mercy when Israeli air force came calling

By Robert Fisk

07/28/06 "The Independent" -- -- It was supposed to be a routine trip across the Lebanese killing fields for the brave men and women of the International Red Cross. Sylvie Thoral was the "team leader" of our two vehicles, a 38-year-old Frenchwoman with dark brown hair and eyes like steel. The Israelis had been informed and had given what the ICRC likes to call its "green light" to the route. And, of course, we almost died.

Five vast, brown, dead fingers of smoke shot into the sky in front of us, an Israeli air-dropped bomb that exploded on the road scarcely 80 metres away with the kind of "c-crack" that comic books express so accurately, followed by the scream of a jet. If we had driven just 25 seconds faster down that road, we would all be dead.
And I thought the IAF were supposed to be accurate!
Posted by: Glenmore || 07/29/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What do you expect? Fisk takes writing lessons from comic books. Praying for another Batman style beating, this time from Hezbies. C-crack!!!
Posted by: ed || 07/29/2006 0:33 Comments || Top||

#2  Hey Glenmore, 38-year-old Frenchwoman---waste not...
Posted by: gromgoru || 07/29/2006 0:37 Comments || Top||

#3  I call bullshit. 80 m my ass. Assuming 500lb bombs he would have been inside the kill radius, which IIRC is pushing 100 m. Plus if you've ever been close to that kind of ordinance going off, you know there is no comic book "crack." That's what it sounds like from quite a distance away. This guy is really an enemy propagandist, an agent.
Posted by: 11A5S || 07/29/2006 0:40 Comments || Top||

#4  better luck next time IDF.
Posted by: RD || 07/29/2006 1:04 Comments || Top||

#5  I would say that if you survived to write that article, Israel lived up to their end of the bargain. Israel didn't promise they wouldn't see any fireworks, they simply promised that they wouldn't BE the fireworks. Where's the beef?
Posted by: crosspatch || 07/29/2006 1:12 Comments || Top||

#6  ...had given what the ICRC likes to call its "green light" to the route.

So I promptly turned around and told my friends in Hezbollah that the route would be safe that day...
Posted by: Angie Schultz || 07/29/2006 1:12 Comments || Top||

#7  Damn. If only Fisk had done that instead.
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 07/29/2006 1:13 Comments || Top||

#8  "She had the kind of eyes that seemed to go through your pockets, looking for loose change."
Posted by: Thrinetle Japer1103 || 07/29/2006 2:21 Comments || Top||

#9  LOL, TJ!

Has a Stainless Steel Rat or Flashman feel to it.

As for Fisk, let me help a little:
On an MSM Agenda mission of pure propaganda when...
Posted by: cruiser || 07/29/2006 2:45 Comments || Top||

#10  USAF must dispatch some Instructor Pilots to the IAF immediately. These guys can't seem to hit anything.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 07/29/2006 3:26 Comments || Top||

#11  "I saw only three men whom I suspect were Hizbollah...They can cross the rivers of Lebanon at will - just as we did - by circling the bomb craters and crossing the rivers. So what was the point in blowing up 46 of Lebanon's road bridges?"

Is the man that stupid?
Posted by: Fordesque || 07/29/2006 9:31 Comments || Top||

#12  Air photos I saw somewhere showed virtually all the Lebanese bridges that were blown up were hit by precision bombing that dropped one span and did little damage to the supports; at cessation of hostilities a good engineering crew should be able to repair them very quickly.
Posted by: Glenmore || 07/29/2006 9:39 Comments || Top||

#13  Thanks, Fiskie. Checks in the mail. It'll be in rials, but you'll get a good deal on the exchange.
Want me to send some of the boys down to beat the shit out of you? I know your into that.
Drop by the embassy to say hello when your in Beirut. Just tell 'em the 12th Imam sent you...
Posted by: Naz || 07/29/2006 12:43 Comments || Top||

#14  "NEWS YOU WON'T FIND ON CNN" but writing like you find on CNN.
Posted by: JohnQC || 07/29/2006 17:11 Comments || Top||

#15  #12 Fordesque: "Is the man that stupid?"

Yes. Why do you ask? ;-p
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 07/29/2006 17:41 Comments || Top||

#16  I was wondering if it was naturally acquired, or if M. Fisk was being deliberately dense.
Posted by: Fordesque || 07/29/2006 23:03 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Judge denied motion to keep Islamofundraiser in jug
Los Angeles -- A federal judge on Friday denied a government appeal to keep incarcerated a top fundraiser for an Islamic charity the government says has ties to terrorism. The motion came a day after U.S. District Judge Terry Hatter ordered the release without bond of Abdel-Jabbar Hamdan, 45, who is being held at the Terminal Island federal detention facility.

Hatter denied the motion without comment, according to court documents filed late Friday. It was unclear when Hamdan could be released, or whether the government would appeal to the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. Calls to the Department of Justice after business hours were not answered. Virginia Kice, spokeswoman for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said the department was aware of the judge's decision and was reviewing its legal options.

In Friday's motion, the government argued "in the context of a case where the alien has been found to engage in terrorist activity, the alien should remain detained." Contacted at her home late Friday, Hamdan's wife, Entesar Hamdan, said she was unaware of the motion but hoped the government wouldn't take the case any further. "I didn't expect they would take it one last step," she said.
Posted by: Fred || 07/29/2006 09:22 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Judge Terry "Mad" Hatter...
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/29/2006 9:52 Comments || Top||

#2  A Bushitler appointee, no doubt.

No???? Who'd a thunk it???
Posted by: lotp || 07/29/2006 9:56 Comments || Top||

#3  Ya thunk correctly, lotp, he was appointed to the bench by Brown and Carter.

U.S. District Judge Terry J. Hatter Jr.
Chief judge of the Central District of California from 1998 to 2001
Senior status April 22, 2005 to present
Los Angeles Superior Court judge April 22, 1977 to 1979-- appointed by Gov. Jerry Brown
Named to the federal bench by President Carter in 1979
Posted by: GK || 07/29/2006 10:17 Comments || Top||

#4  This judge has been known as the "Mad Hatter" for years. As I recall, the term "slam dunk", in reference to strong prosecution cases, originated in his courtroom.
Posted by: Xenophon || 07/29/2006 11:38 Comments || Top||

#5  It must be something of a reality check when you find out you've been sentenced to a place called "Terminal Island federal detention facility".
Posted by: DepotGuy || 07/29/2006 12:20 Comments || Top||

#6 
Judge Terry Hatter, a poster boy for affirmative action. He's the one on the left.



Posted by: Manolo || 07/29/2006 16:50 Comments || Top||

#7  Appeal to the 9th Circus Court, ya say? Appeal to the enemy, ya say? We HAVE to turn these courts around. The body politic is all out of wack. They will kill us all if we let them.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 07/29/2006 17:45 Comments || Top||


Pak immigrant kills 1, wounds 5 in Seattle
Follow-up on the story we started late yesterday, so forgive the duplicate information. I'm promoting this to page 1 as I think it's WoT related. Please post updates in the comments, and the mods will move new information into a new post later today.
SEATTLE – One person is dead and five others have been injured in a shooting at the Jewish Federation at 2031 Third Ave. in downtown Seattle. One suspect has been taken into custody. Seattle police spokesman Rich Pruitt said police are confident that only one shooter was involved.
From what I've heard to date, that's likely true. The guy sounds like a nutball...
Sources told KING 5 the suspect is a 31-year-old Pakistani man with a criminal background. He is from the Pasco but his citizenship status or how long he has lived in the United States is unknown. Also unknown is what sort of criminal record he has. Officials are on the way to the Pasco to interview his family. FBI spokesman David Gomez said officials believe the suspect acted alone and is not affiliated with a foreign organization.
That's a big claim to make. How about a little investigation first, Dave?
It's another Angry Brown Male story. It's the loneliness that gets to them. They're too far out of their element. Back home, he was with all his friends. He was comfortable. They'd get together down at the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi cell and compare turbans and plot a few murders. Here, he's by himself. Can't even get together a big enough gang to beat up a Jew.
According to the Seattle Times, a man got through security at the Jewish Federation and told staff members, "I'm a Muslim American; I'm angry at Israel," then began shooting, according to Amy Wasser-Simpson, the vice president for planning and community services for the Jewish Federation.
Kinda says it all, doesn't it? "I'm a Muslim American of Pak origin and I've brought my national fixation on religion coupled with mindless violence with me, so I'm going to kill somebody at random."
A Harborview Medical Center spokesperson said five women were brought in, and three of them are in critical condition. They have not yet been identified. Their ages are 23, 27, 29, 19 and 43. The 43-year-old woman was reportedly shot in the abdomen. Two vicitms were in satisfactory condition: a woman, who's 17 weeks pregnant whowas shot in the arm and another victim with a knee injury.
Unlike ABMs, 43-year-old Jewish ladies are unlikely to be armed and dangerous, especially in Seattle. Prob'ly he's poor and oppressed and can't afford plane fare to go to Beirut to join up with Hezbollah and fight actual Zionists. Besides which, they're Shiites, so all his friends back at the Jhangvi cell would make fun of him before they killed him.
A joint terrorism task force joined SWAT teams and a bomb disposal unit at the scene. The suspect's vehicle, a pick-up truck was in a nearby garage in the Bed, Bath and Beyond building, at 1930 Third Ave. Police cordoned off part of the garage before they determined there were no explosives.
More on local opinion, interviews with witnesses, etc. in this story.

From the Seattle PI, snipping the duplicate information:

One witness, who declined to give her name, said a man walked into the Jewish Federation building with a gun, said he was upset about what was going on in Israel, then opened fire. After the shootings, the man said to call 911, the witness said. The witness said the man identified himself as an American Muslim. Police officers throughout the city were being asked to step up patrols of Jewish synagogues and Jewish organizations.
But don't go stopping Punjabi males, mind you. We must be sensitive. CAIR will be rushing to the defense tomorrow, if they're not there already.
The Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle was established 1926. According to its Web site, its mission is to "ensure Jewish survival and to enhance the quality of Jewish life locally, in Israel and worldwide." The Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle is a fund raising and fund allocation organization. "It is the Jewish version of the United Way," Rabbi Daniel Weiner said. He said he is at a loss to understand why people in that building would be attacked.
One guess, Dan.
"To delve into the mind of a clearly troubled and disturbed person is impossible," Weiner said. "It is heartbreaking to think of what is transpiring."
Really, Dan, it's not that hard. And we'll be seeing more of it in the future, since we're a welcoming society and we wallow in the delights of Diversity™, whether it drops the advocates of violence on our shores or not.
The Jewish Federation building is known for its security with gates and buzzers, puzzling many who go there as to how the gunman entered.

And from the Seattle Times:

Even as rabbis were trying to find out more about security in preparation for tonight's services, Robert Jacobs, the regional director of the Anti-Defamation League, was issuing a recommendation to every Jewish institution, synagogue and temple that they get their people out of their buildings "until we find out if it's a lone incident."
Just another lone incident, nothing to see, move along ...
It probably is, but there are probably more lone incidents out there waiting to happen. We've got three of them in today's 'Burg...
"We're trying to keep the community as calm as possible," he added.
That statement means something entirely different in Seattle from what it means in Multan. Somehow I can't picture Jewish mobs roaming the streets, torching cars, and looting shops.
American Jews don't seethe well, it's not in their nature ...
Rabbi Daniel Weiner of Temple De Hirsch Sinai had said he was checking with police to see if security there needed to be bolstered, if indeed, the shootings were related to wider issues. But several rabbis said they were continuing with services anyway. "Even if [the shooting] is based on hate, we're not going to let that have any kind of victory over our community gathering," said Rabbi Jonathan Singer of Seattle's Temple Beth Am.
Posted by: Steve White || 07/29/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I'm a Muslim American

And I'm a Jewish Buddhist.
Posted by: gromgoru || 07/29/2006 0:34 Comments || Top||

#2  I wonder what the imam said at Friday prayers in Seattle?
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/29/2006 0:40 Comments || Top||

#3  I'm a Muslim American

And I'm a Jewish Buddhist.


Oh yeah? I'm an Oklahoma State Cowboy.

Top that!
Posted by: badanov || 07/29/2006 0:48 Comments || Top||

#4  I'm an Oklahoma State Cowboy
No comprende.
Posted by: gromgoru || 07/29/2006 0:51 Comments || Top||

#5  Watch that. I'm a Texas Aggie!
Posted by: anymouse || 07/29/2006 0:56 Comments || Top||

#6  I guess the police will move into my synagogue permanently now, instead of just for the major holidays. And the Jewish school office staff will actually look out the window to see the visitors before buzzing them in.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/29/2006 1:06 Comments || Top||

#7  So tell me what is the difference between Seattle authorities' reaction and, say, the Dutch?
Posted by: ed || 07/29/2006 1:12 Comments || Top||

#8  Just another f**kin' Paki. Also, I see the A-rabs had a giant rally for Hizbollah in Detroit. I would suggest everyone look around and note where these Muzzies are. The f**kers are all over. Keep your guns clean and ammo ready.
Posted by: SOP35/Rat || 07/29/2006 1:25 Comments || Top||

#9  In case anyone was wondering, the congregation pays the police salaries when they are guarding us. I've no doubt I'll be seeing a bill for our share of the increased costs -- they'd already cut staffing to pay for such costs post-9/11, but that wasn't for every day.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/29/2006 1:30 Comments || Top||

#10  Before the Seattle police check out any mosques, they will have to thoroughly investigate all churches and synagogues in the name PC, the holy creator. I'm sure the Scientologists will get raided before any mosques do.
Posted by: Thoth || 07/29/2006 1:31 Comments || Top||

#11  Another brave Lion of Islam™ gunning down unarmed women for Allan. What a race of warriors!
Posted by: Dar || 07/29/2006 1:34 Comments || Top||

#12  disinfect the islamic slime
Posted by: RD || 07/29/2006 1:43 Comments || Top||

#13  //#5 Watch that. I'm a Texas Aggie!
Posted by anymouse 2006-07-29 00:56|| Front Page|| ||Comments Top
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And I'm in Austin!

Root for Stanford though...slinks off....
Posted by: Thoth || 07/29/2006 2:05 Comments || Top||

#14  Cornhusker once upon a time...
Posted by: 3dc || 07/29/2006 2:19 Comments || Top||

#15  Ok, so a Shiite, a Sunni and an Aggie were walking down the street.......
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 07/29/2006 3:29 Comments || Top||

#16  with a poodle under one arm and a two foot salami under the other,... :)
Posted by: Jud Nelson || 07/29/2006 3:47 Comments || Top||

#17  ... and says: "We did not play cowboys and muslims yet."
Posted by: zazz || 07/29/2006 4:27 Comments || Top||

#18  Muslims are peaceful, therefore this fat Paki cannot be a Muslim. And jihad is a personal struggle against obesity.
Posted by: Abdullah Paduka || 07/29/2006 5:30 Comments || Top||

#19  At this very moment, CAIR is probably perparing their statement of regret that such a think could happen in the name of islam, and to express sorrow for the victims.

(hehehe sometimes I crack myself up)
Posted by: PlanetDan || 07/29/2006 5:57 Comments || Top||

#20  Snease Shaiting? I want a cooler name than that.
Posted by: Snease Shaiting3550 || 07/29/2006 7:08 Comments || Top||

#21  The next time you post a comment, Snease Shaiting3550 , just type in your name or preferred nym in the "Your Name" box. It would be helpful for those of us less aware of individual styalistic quirks if you would append "formerly Snease Shaiting3550" to the end for a day or two, to give yourself posting continuity. Oh, and make sure you enable Rantburg's cookies, or your computer won't remember who you choose to become. Welcome aboard!
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/29/2006 7:22 Comments || Top||

#22  "#3 I'm a Muslim American"

They call themselves Indian Muslims everywhere in SE Asia. Does that mean they implicitly despise American citizenship more?
Posted by: Duh! || 07/29/2006 7:37 Comments || Top||

#23  trailing wife:
Actually, the assigned names are funny.

Please read the attached link (AOL permitting). Hindus are peaceful, but this is ridiculous:

Posted by: Snease Shaiting3550 || 07/29/2006 8:02 Comments || Top||

#24  Watch as the media and govmint start the spin that he is alone and mentally unstable.
Posted by: BrerRabbit || 07/29/2006 8:41 Comments || Top||

#25  from Yahoo news - updates:

Authorities said officers were moving to protect both synagogues and mosques around the city but there was no evidence of a broad threat. Police were protecting mosques "because there's always the concern of retaliatory crime," Kerlikowske said.

Setting up muslims as the victims here.

Haq's lawyer, Larry Stephenson, told The Times that he thought Haq was single and unemployed. Stephenson said Haq had a misdemeanor lewd conduct charge pending in Benton County, near Pasco. He had been accused of exposing himself in a public place, he told The Times.

Guy's a real dick.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 07/29/2006 9:09 Comments || Top||

#26  You left out "tiny", TW. :)
Posted by: cruiser || 07/29/2006 9:12 Comments || Top||

#27  Whatta we got, Muldoon?
Looks like another Muslim victim, sir. He 's says these jewish ladies made his gun go off so they could steal all his bullets.
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/29/2006 9:34 Comments || Top||

#28  Just another lone Muslim gunman. Like the guy who shot Kahane (and was connected to the first WTC attack). Or the DC "snipers" (who somehow had access to tons of cash, fake passports, etc).

Funny how many "lone Muslim gunmen" have big support networks.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 07/29/2006 10:04 Comments || Top||

#29  This is the lowlife



Haq's father, Mian A. Haq, was a founding member of the Islamic Centre of Tri-Cities in Richland, said center member Youseff Shehadeh. He described the younger Haq as a loner who attended holidays at the center but was barely involved in recent years.

Naveed Haq's parents moved into a new suburb in Pasco less than three years ago after living in nearby Richland for more than a decade, said Maureen Hales, a neighbor.

Mian Haq was involved in an Islamic center in Richland, but he did not discuss his religion with his neighbors, said Hales.

She said she had not seen Naveed Haq, but found his parents and his younger brother, Hasan, to be "quite enjoyable." The two families exchanged food, and Maureen Hales said she watches the Haqs' house when they're away.

Naveed Haq lived in an apartment building at 2924 Nassau St. in Everett until about two weeks ago, when he abruptly left, said tenant Chris Richey. The landlady told Richey that Haq was heading to Pakistan. Richie often talked with Haq about guns and politics, though little stuck out. Richey said Haq didn't like President Bush.
Posted by: john || 07/29/2006 10:08 Comments || Top||

#30 
Posted by: john || 07/29/2006 10:11 Comments || Top||

#31  From the Seattle Times:

A friend of Haq's in Everett, who spoke on condition he not be named, said Friday night that Haq was on medication for bipolar disorder and was frustrated by his inability to find a job or a girlfriend. Haq displayed a streak of anti-Semitism, sometimes making offhand comments about Jews.

Ah, yes. "Bipolar". How did I know that would show up in this?
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/29/2006 10:29 Comments || Top||

#32  Seems to be the SOP for describing the "lone gunman" terrorist attack. The Turkish Gov't declared that both shootings of Catholic priests in that country were conducted by "insane" yutes.
Posted by: mrp || 07/29/2006 10:54 Comments || Top||

#33  "Even if [the shooting] is based on hate..."

As opposed to all the shootings based on Love?

"...frustrated by his inability to find a job or a girlfriend."

I smell the ole "ticking [turbun] timebomb" defense.
Posted by: DepotGuy || 07/29/2006 11:29 Comments || Top||

#34  "Haq displayed a streak of anti-Semitism"

Ya' think?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 07/29/2006 11:41 Comments || Top||

#35  I can't understand why a woman wouldn't be attracted to such a successful and personable young man!

P.S. Does the "Peace be onto you" in the picture creep anyone else out?

Al
Posted by: Frozen Al || 07/29/2006 11:44 Comments || Top||

#36  Nice Pakistani family living in Richland, WA involved with establishing an outpost of the ROP in the Tri-Cities...

Perhaps we'll find that Pappa Haq does nuclear work at DOE's Pacific Northwest National Laboratory. (www.pnl.gov)
Posted by: Classical_Liberal || 07/29/2006 12:04 Comments || Top||

#37  Frozen Al: yes.
Posted by: Dave D. || 07/29/2006 12:33 Comments || Top||

#38  Richland is where the Hanford Nuclear site is. That's where the plutonium for the Nagasaki bomb was made. Interesting.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 07/29/2006 14:27 Comments || Top||

#39  What two words will you *not* see in any MSM reports on this?

Hate Crime


If the victims were muslim you *know* CAIR and the MSM will be screaming for blood for the 'Hate Crime' from the rooftops. If the victims were gay, or 'of color' the media will be screaming it in bold headlines.

But since the victims are only Jews (and the terrorist is a muslims) you will never see those two words appearing in any media report.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 07/29/2006 15:36 Comments || Top||

#40  Are we talking Richmond, Home of the Bombers, Washington?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/29/2006 15:49 Comments || Top||

#41  Authorities said officers were moving to protect both synagogues and mosques around the city but there was no evidence of a broad threat. Police were protecting mosques "because there's always the concern of retaliatory crime," Kerlikowske said.

No need to protect mosques (unfortunately). Jews wouldn't do that. They just get ACCUSED of doing that.
Posted by: PlanetDan || 07/29/2006 16:31 Comments || Top||

#42  I am from Richland and when I used to live there there where very few muslim families and almost all of them where from India or Pakistan. Pasco is near Richland, its one of the tricities, but I dont think you can make much of a connection between this guy and the Hanford site based on what we have seen so far.
Posted by: robi || 07/29/2006 16:46 Comments || Top||

#43  Richland is a nice quiet place, very peaceful. You'll see children riding bikes to school unescorted. Reminds me of the 1950's. Pasco is a bit on the TexMex side. Doubt if it had anything to do with Hanford Nuclear Site, but there's a hundred and fifty or so underground vats of bubbling radioative goooo out there that have yet to be solidified and sent to Yuka Mtn. Toss him arss into one of them and be done with him.
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/29/2006 18:00 Comments || Top||

#44  How many eggs does it take to become a dozen?

How many lone Muslim gunmen does is take to become a collusory? Obviously, more than the amount of eggs needed to become a dozen.
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 07/29/2006 18:03 Comments || Top||

#45  How many eggs does it take to become a dozen?

Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh1 A Koan! 12? No wait, that's to obvious, 19?
Posted by: 6 || 07/29/2006 18:22 Comments || Top||

#46  6,

I'm disappointed that you picked the easier question to answer. Scientific vs. Rhetorical.
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 07/29/2006 18:52 Comments || Top||

#47  Haq's father, Mian Haq, [works] at the Hanford nuclear reservation, as do many members of the area's Muslim community. AP
Posted by: KBK || 07/29/2006 19:28 Comments || Top||


Ex-Ga. Tech student pleads innocent in terror case
A former Georgia Tech student allegedly involved in planning attacks against U.S. targets, including Marietta's Dobbins Air Reserve Base, pleaded not guilty Thursday to additional federal terrorism charges. Pakistan-born Syed Haris Ahmed, 21, appeared with his attorney Jack Martin before U.S. District Court Judge E. Clayton Scofield III to answer the new charges contained in a recently filed expanded indictment. The U.S. attorney's Atlanta office tacked on three additional counts having to do with conspiracy to provide material support to terrorists and foreign terrorist organizations.

It also has added alleged co-conspirator Eshsanul Islam Sadequee, 19, to the indictment. Sadequee is in custody in New York, but is expected to appear in federal court here Aug. 18. Sadequee, who was born in Virginia and is of Bangladeshi descent, was charged in March with making false statements to federal agents after his arrest in Bangladesh. Ahmed originally was indicted in March on one count of providing material support to terrorist.

Neither U.S. Attorney David Nahmias nor Martin would comment on the case Thursday. Federal officials accuse Ahmed, a naturalized citizen, and Sadequee of engaging in acts in support of a jihad, or holy war, against the United States. Those acts, they allege, include participating in paramilitary training, sizing up possible targets, communicating with supporters of violent jihad and like-minded extremists, and traveling abroad in support of their plot. Federal authorities, however, say the men had not gotten far enough along in their planning for attacks on U.S. targets, also including oil refineries and the U.S. Capitol, to be an imminent threat.
Posted by: Fred || 07/29/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ohhhh, Officer Krupke. I'm depraved becasue I'm deprived.
Posted by: anymouse || 07/29/2006 0:59 Comments || Top||

#2  F**kin' surprise. Another worthless Paki.
Posted by: SOP35/Rat || 07/29/2006 1:28 Comments || Top||

#3  It's becoming more and more obvious that islam and US citizenship are mutually exclusive. In order to become a naturalized US citizen, you have to swear to abide by our Constitution, which, among other things, guarantees freedom of religion. Islam refuses to acknowledge or accept any other religion as being valid. People who profess to be active muslims and US citizens are perpetrating a fraud, and should be expelled from this nation - or at least denied citizenship. This PC bullsh$$ is killing us, literally.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 07/29/2006 14:33 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Suspects in Mumbai Bombings Confess Ties to Pakistani Militants
Suspects in the serial bombings on July 11 of the city's commuter train network have confessed they went to Pakistan for training in arms and explosives, the police in India said today, and at least one has testified that he received instructions from an operative of a banned terrorist organization operating across the border. The statements by senior police officials represent the first glint of evidence of complicity by the Pakistani-based militant group, Lashkar-e-Taiba, that Indian officials have blamed repeatedly for terror attacks on Indian soil.

The chief of the Mumbai police antiterrorist squad, K. P. Raghuvanshi, said today that six of the eight suspects confessed to having gone for military training in Pakistan. The police have not described precisely how the 8 men are linked to each other or, more importantly, to the blasts, which killed 183 people during the evening rush hour.
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19 injured in Quetta bombing
At least 19 people, including a woman and a child, were wounded and two were reported to be in critical condition as a home-made bomb exploded in Quetta on Friday afternoon. "Explosive devices planted in a motorcycle and a cycle parked in front of the Allied Bank in Chaman Patak on Jail Road, went off at around 4pm," Balochistan Inspector General (IG) of Police Chaudhry Yaqoob told Daily Times.

Several cars, auto-rickshaws and motorcycles parked nearby were also damaged. The IG vowed that those responsible for the blast would be arrested. The blast occurred a kilometre from Ayub Stadium, where a three-day public gathering of the Jamaat-i-Islami had begun on the same day. The injured were shifted to Quetta Civil Hospital.
Posted by: Fred || 07/29/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Jesus, where the hell did you get that picture?

The boys in R&D are gonna be pissed.
Posted by: Thrinetle Japer1103 || 07/29/2006 2:28 Comments || Top||

#2  ...WHERE do I get one of those? When I get grandkids, I want to be ready...:)

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 07/29/2006 7:30 Comments || Top||

#3  Gawd amighty, that's plain nuts. When you remove the training wheels does that arm it?
Posted by: 6 || 07/29/2006 9:30 Comments || Top||

#4  Soap Bomb Derby entry by hizbulla. When you win, you lose!
Posted by: Inspector Clueso || 07/29/2006 11:39 Comments || Top||

#5  Just in time for Ramadan! From Gaza Metalshop Industries! The Ulitimate gift for the Young Jihadi Warrior that has everything!
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/29/2006 12:22 Comments || Top||

#6  Ah, it is the dreaded Somali car-bomb.
Posted by: Fordesque || 07/29/2006 12:52 Comments || Top||

#7  LOLOLOLO hahahahah soapbomb derby. That's bad you should be ashamed of you self.
Posted by: 6 || 07/29/2006 13:22 Comments || Top||


Militants taking over check-posts
The Taliban have taken over military check posts in North Waziristan, BBC Radio reporter Dilawar Khan Wazir said in his 'Miranshah Diary' on Friday. Wazir said that more than a dozen check posts monitoring the highway between Kajhori and Miranshah earlier had been abandoned and that he had seen the Taliban patrolling the highway between Mir Ali and Miranshah in twin cabin pick-ups. "They were carrying automatic rifles and in some cases, rocket launchers. Militants now stand guard at the check points previously controlled by army soldiers," he said.

Wazir warned that "North Waziristan was being taken over by the Taliban". "The movements of the tribal jirga members have also been restricted and it is difficult for them to meet friends or family," he added. Wazir reported that authorities in North Waziristan had stopped officials, tribal elders and jirga members from speaking to the media. "Tribal elder Malik Qadir Khan said the administration had asked the jirga members not to speak to the media," Wazir said.
Posted by: Fred || 07/29/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  One daisy-cutter per checkpost ought to do the trick.
Posted by: gorb || 07/29/2006 0:44 Comments || Top||

#2  Glad to see they're "taking over". Stationary targets are easier to hit. Next, we need to start whacking every dual-cab pickup in pakiwackiland.

Arclight a section of the highway, and see how that slows down these taligbunnies.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 07/29/2006 14:37 Comments || Top||

#3 
As good a place as any to dispose of our unwanted VX stocks. That and South Africa.

-M
Just sayin'.
Posted by: Manolo || 07/29/2006 16:12 Comments || Top||


Iraq
U.S. to move 3,700 troops to Baghdad
Posted by: BrerRabbit || 07/29/2006 13:38 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Our Stryker brigade out of Fairbanks was scheduled to be back in Alaska after a year, but right at the last moment, the duty was extended another 120 days. It has been stressful on the families, but something must be up.

Maybe with all this Hiz activity, we want to have boots on the ground for contingency w/r/t either Syria, Iraq, or Iran. My uneducated guess.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 07/29/2006 13:55 Comments || Top||

#2  I've figured out why we are doing this!

They're gonna HANG SADDAM!

They want Baghdad so buttoned up that anyone who runs out on to the street yelling will have a net thrown over him before he can yell twice.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 07/29/2006 14:36 Comments || Top||

#3  For a city of over 7m, I'm sorry, I don't think 3,700 hundred more is going to make much difference.
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/29/2006 17:23 Comments || Top||

#4  It's the Mexican technique. 2 soldiers and 2 cops on every street, and the cops know everybody on their street. Then have flying squads available for every group of about 10 blocks. The backup for that is the police stations, and US aviation. Add to that random checkpoints, informants who will quickly call in anything suspicious, and finally vehicle restrictions and you have a city that is buttoned up.

You can't keep up the full court press for too long, but even a day or two would be enough to suck the wind out of the sails of any agitators.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 07/29/2006 19:07 Comments || Top||

#5  I hope and pray you are right Anon.
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/29/2006 19:19 Comments || Top||

#6  Not only are there these 3,700 troops being moved in, but putting some known items from the last week together: (And I'm way out of my league here, really have more questions about these happenings - this is in no way analysis.)

a) Bush has Iraqi PM to Washington, even presenting him to Congress

b) Troops already in Kuwait with just a couple of days from home, sent back in for 120 days

c) Bush announces more troops being sent over

d) Troops that had been delayed in deploying, now deploying

e) Blair, on short notice, arrives, meets first with Bush, but there has been little publicity that he is here for five (5) days. That's lots for a PM of Britain, on very short notice. Who else is he meeting with?

f) From Bush's and Blair's news conference, was this a mispoke that Bush sometimes does but isn't really a mispoke :

Q: Thank you. Mr. President, and Prime Minister Blair, can I ask you both tonight what your messages are for the governments of Iran and Syria, given that you say this is the crisis of the 21st century?

PRESIDENT BUSH: Want me to start? My message is, give up your nuclear weapon and your nuclear weapon ambitions. That's my message to Syria -- I mean, to Iran.

g) From post here from DEBKA: Our sources add that from Saturday, July 29, the tempo of the American munitions airlift to Israel, begun last Wednesday, as DEBKAfile revealed exclusively, has speeded up. During Saturday, giant US Air Force C-114 cargo transports en route for Israel touched down in Scotland for refueling every few hours.

Could it be, that someone is taking seriously, that August 22 date often spoken of by that idiot in Iran?

And from LFG

A former CSIS informant who once kept tabs on terrorists says the Iranian regime is “mentally and spiritually” preparing its people for war against Israel.

The Ottawa man, now in Tehran, says the hate campaign against Israel is “everywhere” on the streets of the capital.

“It is not good. It is sad,” he told the Citizen.

“There are posters at intersections of (Hezbollah leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah) saying Israel must be erased from the map.”

Opponents of the Iranian government in Canada say they have received similar reports describing huge posters of Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, hardline president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and the Hezbollah leader alongside the slogan: “This war is our war.”


Lots to ponder on what has been occurring the last week. And JPost is reporting AF bombing near the Syria border. Maybe using stuff brought in by those USA cargo plane?
Posted by: Sherry || 07/29/2006 20:00 Comments || Top||

#7  Sherry:

Quickest way to get your neighbor to come out may be to kick his dog around a bit. As the seething neighbor comes out, the "mother of all" Tuwaitha Nuclear Research Center bombing missions unfolds. The next few weeks will be most interesting.
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/29/2006 20:13 Comments || Top||


Thirty three insurgents killed in battle with Iraqi and U.S. forces
BAGHDAD - Thirty three insurgents were killed in a daylong battle with Iraqi and U.S. military forces in Mussayab about 60 km (40 miles) south of Baghdad on July 23, a U.S. military statement said on Friday.
Posted by: crosspatch || 07/29/2006 03:53 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Those terrorists are in a real quagmire now. Maybe they should withdraw.
Posted by: Chutch Grineger4959 || 07/29/2006 9:32 Comments || Top||

#2  30 - 0; I love shutouts...
Posted by: Raj || 07/29/2006 9:59 Comments || Top||

#3  Doh - field goal as time expired; the spirit of Barry Switzer lives!
Posted by: Raj || 07/29/2006 10:00 Comments || Top||

#4  I dislike his ass, but I did alwqays figure that Barry wouold make a hell of an armoured comjmander.
Posted by: 6 || 07/29/2006 13:24 Comments || Top||

#5  See, through patient counseling and firepower, these 33 have changed their evil ways!
Posted by: gorb || 07/29/2006 17:20 Comments || Top||

#6  hahhahahha Gorb!
Posted by: 6 || 07/29/2006 18:25 Comments || Top||


3 Marines Killed in Anbar Province
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - Three U.S. Marines assigned to the Army's 1st Brigade, 1st Armored Division have been killed in action in Anbar province, the U.S. military said Saturday. The Marines died Thursday, according to a U.S. statement. No further details were released.

Both Army and Marine units operate in the Ramadi area of Anbar, and individuals from both services are sometimes attached to units from the other.
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US in quiet U-turn on Iraq troop numbers
The US administration has quietly reversed its goal from whittling down troop numbers in Iraq before the mid-term congressional elections in November. A Pentagon spokesman on Friday confirmed that US troop levels in Iraq rose to 132,000 during the past week – the highest since late May – from 127,000 at the start of the week. The spokesman said troop numbers often fluctuated and “there might be temporary spikes during periods of troop rotation”.

However, analysts said an increase in troop numbers was more likely than a reduction because the number of sectarian killings in Iraq had almost doubled since the start of the year. The rise will prompt fears that the US is becoming increasingly bogged down in an unwinnable conflict.

On Thursday, the Pentagon said it would extend for up to 120 days the 3,700-strong deployment of the 172nd Stryker brigade in Iraq, among other rotations. There were 3,169 Iraqis killed in June, compared with 1,778 in January.
Posted by: Steve White || 07/29/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I think Iraq is about to explode. Sadr Mehdi/Badgr groups are Iranian proxies and Iran is looking to turn up the heat. They may think a major push could break our back here on the home moral.

Teit anyone.

http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/2006/07/war-preparations-disguised-as.html

Iraq the Model says the fellow Radicals both Shia/Sunni are looking for a temporary truce to fight the US/IA.

http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/2006/07/just-new-banners-or-war-drums.html

And this post is about strange new Mehdi banners around town pimping the 12Mehdi and such.

Thos two observations to me mixed with the odd behavior of Israel being so reserved with their ground forces makes me wonder that something big is getting ready to pop.
Posted by: C-Low || 07/29/2006 0:22 Comments || Top||

#2  Crap Watch. US objectives in Iraq do not involve resolving sectarian conflicts. That is an internal policing matter. The problem of the formation of irregular groups of terrorists - like the Mahdi Army - is within US scope of operations. That is why a temporary buildup is probably being put in effect. Al-Sadr has to go. Crunch time is coming.
Posted by: Griper Whegum8464 || 07/29/2006 0:27 Comments || Top||

#3  A history lesson from an article yesterday...

Even though Nasrallah has become "famous" for starting this new Hezbollah-Israel war and declaring Israel as Hezbollah's mortal enemy, one should not forget that the "big Satan" remains the United States. And that's why Iraq is where Nasrallah's influence can also be felt.

Nasrallah's biography explains how he got close to prominent clerics in Lebanon, Iran and Iraq, in particular the Sadr family. In 1975, when he was only 15, Nasrallah joined the ranks of the Lebanese Shi'ite movement Amal - which Hezbollah broke from after its creation in 1982 - led by Musa al-Sadr.

From 1976 to 1978 he was sent to study in Najaf, Iraq, at the famed Shi'ite seminary the Hawze. There he met most of his mentors, starting with Iranian ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini (leader of the Islamic revolution in Iran in 1979) and also his tutor, ayatollah Mohammed Sadiq al-Sadr (Muqtada al-Sadr's father). He also was in close contact with Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani (the leading Shi'ite spiritual force in Iraq today).

And finally, he was groomed by future Hezbollah leader Abbas al-Musawi, whom he succeeded after Musawi was killed by the Israelis in 1992. Those two years in Najaf definitely left a huge imprint on Nasrallah's psyche.

And that's why, when it was time to help his Shi'ite brothers in Iraq after the US intervention in 2003, and especially Muqtada, Nasrallah responded. Nasrallah, using the 1982 model of what had worked in Lebanon to kick out the multinational force, adapted some of his tactics in Iraq.

Indeed, Iraq in 2006 looks a lot like the Lebanon of 1983. For example, the Iranian man in charge of this whole operation is Hassan Qommi, who had the exact same job ... in Beirut in 1982. Qommi helped Hezbollah instructors get to Iraq to train Muqtada's Mehdi Army, which has staged several high-profile confrontations with US forces, notably at Fallujah.

Starting in 2003, Hezbollah began building up organizational and military apparatuses in Iraq. For instance, that April, Hezbollah opened two offices in the Iraqi cities of Basra and Safwan. The campaign, targeting moderate Iraqi Shi'ite clerics willing to work with the US, was most likely orchestrated by Muqtada and Hezbollah.

Keep in mind that even though Nasrallah greatly respects Sistani, he is totally at odds with him when it comes to fighting the US presence.

Also in 2003-04, Imad Mughniah, the top Hezbollah operative wanted by most Western secret services for his role in most of the attacks perpetrated by Hezbollah, including the bombings of the US Embassy and the US and French barracks in Beirut in 1983, was sighted in Iraq. Syria had most probably facilitated his entry on to Iraqi soil.
Posted by: Sherry || 07/29/2006 0:27 Comments || Top||

#4  Agreed, secretarion violence is out of bounds. But popping Tater & Tots, Inc. fits the Iran profile. Good hunting.
Posted by: Captain America || 07/29/2006 0:33 Comments || Top||

#5  The US administration has quietly reversed its goal from whittling down troop numbers in Iraq before the mid-term congressional elections in November.

Quietly my a$$. Bush even said something about it on TV. If it was "quiet" it was because the MSM for once didn't say much about it. Somebody obviously forgot to tell this guy.
Posted by: gorb || 07/29/2006 0:42 Comments || Top||

#6  If you in Iraq turn your backs on me.....
Posted by: newc || 07/29/2006 1:31 Comments || Top||

#7  Very nice summary, Sherry. Thanks muchly!
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/29/2006 1:35 Comments || Top||

#8  Now that I read this again, is all this suggesting to some that an operation is being staged, and that apparently unnecessary increases in US and Israeli troops the supporting evidence?

If so, wouldn't that take a couple/three carriers?

Does this tie in somehow with the Sunnis suddenly being the US's best friends over there?

Am I totally off-base? :-)
Posted by: gorb || 07/29/2006 2:45 Comments || Top||

#9  Shery, Good info but I don't think the Mehdi "army" was a main player in Fallujah. That is Sunni territory. I believe you were thinking of Najaf where US forces had an extended run with him and should have finished the job. The similarity to Fallujah is that we are having to do the same job twice because we did not have the strength of will to get it done the first time.
Posted by: remoteman || 07/29/2006 11:30 Comments || Top||

#10  "The rise will prompt fears that the US is becoming increasingly bogged down in an unwinnable conflict."

Emotion in Motion.
Posted by: DepotGuy || 07/29/2006 11:56 Comments || Top||

#11  remoteman - I know you're right about Tater and his Tots - that was Najaf, not Fallujah.

Didn't I read here that Sistani actually saved Tater there? IIRC, he and his Tots were holed up in the mosque and the only thing that stopped them being finished off was Sistani's return from London, the asshole. After the MNF forces withdrew, people discovered he and his shits had been torturing and killing people, doing dope on a major scale, had stolen all the valuables they could find, and had trashed much of the mosque. Isn't this correct?
Posted by: cruiser || 07/29/2006 12:04 Comments || Top||

#12  Remoteman and others -- thanks for thinking I'm that smart and clever, but I didn't write any of that. I did know, tho, that it was Najaf, not Fallujah.

This is part of a article I posted on Friday by Olivier Guitta from http://counterterrorismblog.org/

There's more of his article at Asia Times http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/HG29Ak02.html.

or at Rantburg at http://www.rantburg.com/poparticle.php?ID=161173&D=2006-07-28&HC=4
Posted by: Sherry || 07/29/2006 15:30 Comments || Top||

#13  Hello mullah, hello fatwah!
Posted by: JSU || 07/29/2006 20:21 Comments || Top||


Iraqi officer killed, security personnel kidnapped
(KUNA) -- An Iraqi army lieutenant was killed on Friday as his checkpoint was attacked by unknown gunmen southwest of Kirkuk, while a Kurdish security personnel got kidnapped. Iraqi police source said a checkpoint in the Tal Al-Thahab area was attacked by unknown gunmen using a white sedan, which resulted in the killing of first lieutenant Arshad Nour Ibrahim.

Meanwhile, unknown gunmen using a civilian vehicle have kidnapped a security personnel from the Al-Qadisya area close to Kirkuk power station. Iraqi police source added an improvised bomb exploded in one of the patrolling police vehicles on the main street of Kirkuk, while a similar attack targeted Multi-National Force (MNF) vehicle on the way of Kirkuk.
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Five Iraqis killed, curfew in Hilla
(KUNA) -- Five Iraqi civilians including three brothers were killed in Hilla Friday, as declared by Iraqi security sources. An army statement told Kuna that three brothers were killed by unidentified gunmen when they were about to board their car, early morning, in the heart of Baquba.

Meanwhile, the security sources in Hilla south of here imposed a curfew starting at 10 a.m. today and until further notice. Spokesman for Babel police station said the curfew that would remain until further notice came after tension in Al-Shawi suburb against the backdrop of passage of a US army patrol close to the Sadr office, south of the city. Locals said in Hilla the Iraqi security and US forces set up many positions in the city and imposed and checked passing cars. The Iraqi Government declared a four-hour partial curfew to fend off attacks on mosques and worship locations in east and south Iraq including Al-Sadr and Al-Amin suburbs.
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Baghdad: Bomb leaves 4 dead following prayers
A bomb planted between a Sunni mosque and a youth center exploded during Friday prayers, killing four people and wounding another nine, police said. The blast hit just as worshippers began leaving the al-Ali al-Aadhim mosque in southeastern Baghdad, said police Capt. Ali Mahdi. The attack came during a four-hour driving ban police hoped would hold down sectarian attacks that have threatened to divide the capital city in recent weeks.
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Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Israel Deploys Arrow and Patriot
Saturday afternoon, Hizballah’s Hassan Nasrallah threatened to send more rockets into central Israeli cities after Afula was hit Friday night. Playing it safe, Israel also adjusted the orbits of its military satellites to allow them to track any Hizballah missiles at the moment they are launched from Lebanon. Military experts believe that the Israeli air force, supported by these hi tech systems, will be able to intercept an Iran-made Zilzal-2 long-range missile, whose 250-km range puts Tel Aviv within reach, before it enters Israeli air space.

DEBKAfile’s military experts add: If one of those missiles is intercepted only after it shoots across Israeli skies, Hizballah will count it a success, because of the potential damage falling debris from the intruding missile and its interceptor can cause on the ground below.

This lesson was learned in the 1991 Gulf War, when Patriot anti-missile interceptions caught up too late with Saddam Hussein’s Scud missile as they homed into Israel towns.

Our sources add that from Saturday, July 29, the tempo of the American munitions airlift to Israel, begun last Wednesday, as DEBKAfile revealed exclusively, has speeded up. During Saturday, giant US Air Force C-114 cargo transports en route for Israel touched down in Scotland for refueling every few hours.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 07/29/2006 19:16 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Israel also adjusted the orbits of its military satellites to allow them to track any Hizballah missiles at the moment they are launched from Lebanon...... or Iran
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/29/2006 20:42 Comments || Top||

#2  More reasons why the 20-mile "buffer zone" is insuffic or obsolete before it is even established - 9-11 > THE WOT > THE "STATUS QUO" IS NO LONGER ACCEPTABLE/TOLERABLE TO THE ENEMIES OF AMERICA = WESTERN DEMOCRACIES-CAPITALISM. E.g the Spetzies want the USA-West out from Spain to Iraq = "the enitire/whole world" in Camel-kaze speak. Israel = USA > any per se military defeat or unilateral withdrawal unto national isolationism = enemy armies will show up in the back yards and mainstreets of AnyTown, AnyCity, AnyPlace, ...............Any-Kibbutz in CONUS + the Western world. THE WOT IS A DE FACTO NATIONAL AND WORLD-GLOBAL WAR TO THE DEATH, THE DEATH OF ONE SIDE + -ISM(S) VS ANY AND ALL OTHERS - ARMISTICE ONLY MEANS THE ENEMY IS GONNA KILL YOU AND YOURS, ETAL. SLOWLY THAN USUAL = WILL WAR AND ATTACK AGAIN AND AGAIN ONCE STRENGTH IS REGAINED. WIll say again the irony for mostly Muslim Lebanon and Syria is that any destruction of Israel does not mean their own nations and Moderate-Sunni = non-Shia Islam is safe from Radical Iran. THEIR ALLIES OR FELLOW MUSLIMS ARE NOT THEIR FRIENDS.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 07/29/2006 21:07 Comments || Top||

#3  The C-114. Wasn't that the Flying Boxcar?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/29/2006 21:22 Comments || Top||

#4  Boxcar was a C-19. I think Moose meant C-17.
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/29/2006 21:25 Comments || Top||

#5  That was Debka, not Moose, and I think they meant C-141. Not the first time they've made that error.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/29/2006 21:49 Comments || Top||

#6 
Posted by: Manolo || 07/29/2006 22:32 Comments || Top||

#7  DEBKA didn't just transpose the numbers; they got the designation wrong. As someone pointed out the other day the C-141s went to Starlifter heaven at Davis-Monthan. The last C-141 went to the National Museum of the United States Air Force at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio on May 9, 2006. I agree with #4. Debka must have meant the C-17 Globemaster III.
Posted by: GK || 07/29/2006 22:50 Comments || Top||

#8  Isn't #6 the retired C-141 Starlifter?
Posted by: GK || 07/29/2006 22:54 Comments || Top||


Islamic Jihad: Israel killed militant head
Israeli troops killed two Islamic Jihad militants on Saturday, including the man the group described as the leader of its militant wing in the West Bank city of Nablus. The group initially said in an announcement over mosque loudspeakers that the slain militant, Hani Awijan, 29, was the leader of its military wing in the West Bank. However, other members of the group later said Awijan headed gunmen in Nablus only.

Initial reports said Awijan was shot by Israeli undercover troops trying to arrest him while he played soccer with friends and relatives. The army confirmed soldiers operated in Nablus and said a militant was killed in an exchange of gunfire. Israel Radio said Awijan was responsible for a series of attacks on Israelis.
Posted by: ed || 07/29/2006 19:03 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  You should be dancin yeah, you should be......
Posted by: RJB in JC MO || 07/29/2006 19:09 Comments || Top||

#2  Playing soccer with friends and relatives, ya say? Asleep at the switch, sez I.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 07/29/2006 22:53 Comments || Top||


Israeli Troop Morale High
HAIFA, Israel -– Now that Israel has pulled back the elite paratroopers who had seized the Hezbollah stronghold of Bint Jbeil in southern Lebanon on Tuesday, soldiers are beginning to tell their stories. They are harrowing tales of a five-day-long battle, in which eight Israeli soldiers died and 22 more were wounded in a deadly Hezbollah ambush.

Maj. Ro'i Klein, 31, was deputy commander of Battalion 51 of the famed Golani Brigades. He jumped on a grenade in order to save his men.

"First he said the ‘Shema' prayer and then he jumped on a grenade," a family friend from his hometown in Israel told the Jerusalem Post.

"That's why some of the soldiers who were with him survived." On Tuesday, Israel troops secured the outskirts of the Lebanese town, which the Israeli high command has called the "capital of Hezbollah." It was in Bint Jbeil in 2000 that Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah gave a victory speech when Israel withdrew its forces after 18 years of occupying a buffer zone in southern Lebanon.

In the predawn hours on Wednesday, Lt. Col. Yaniv Asor, commander of Battalion 51, received the orders to move into the town itself.

At first, the going was easy. Then, at 5 a.m., Hezbollah fighters ambushed the Israelis in a narrow alleyway between houses with a massive wave of gunfire and rocket-propelled grenades. Eight Israeli soldiers were killed almost instantly.

"For the first three days, there was almost constant firing," said 1st Sgt. Shahar S., 21. "No more than 15 seconds went by between Hezbollah missile launches, rocket-propelled grenades, or gunfire," he told NewsMax while on R&R north of Haifa.

The Israel Defense Force pulled the troops out of Bint Jbeil at half past midnight on Saturday morning, and brought them to a secure location north of Haifa where they could rest and meet their families.

The Israel Defense Force asked NewsMax not to reveal the precise location where the Golani soldiers were now staying, or to publish their family names.

Shahar said that when he and his men first went into Lebanon on Monday, they had planned on an operation lasting 48 to 72 hours.

They brought everything in on their backs for more than 15 kilometers -- food, water, and ammunition -– and wound up staying five and a half days.

"All the houses were abandoned," he said. "The only ones who stayed behind were terrorists."

Shahar and his men took up position in an abandoned house and moved only at night. During the day they waited for the Hezbollah fighters to reveal themselves.

"The first two we saw were carrying [rocket-propelled grenades] directly below the window of the house where we were staying, but couldn't see us. We killed them."

Shahar said it was only this morning, after eating and sleeping at the R&R facility that he realized the effect of the operation in Bint Jbeil. "We killed more than 100 terrorists. Just to be part of that makes everything worth it –- not just the past five and a half days, the not eating and not drinking, but the past two and a half years.

"This was what I was trained to do," he said. "I can't wait to go back in."

Omer, 20, is a private. "You don't have time to feel," he said, when asked what he had felt during the battle. "I know that I have to continue to fight to save my mother, to save my country."

Seeing a British reporter, he said, "Imagine how you would feel in the U.K. if someone was shooting missiles on London? We have to stop the terrorists."

Israeli military commentators have fretted over this new generation of soldiers. Some have suggested that Israel has become soft over the past 25 years, since its last major war, which was also in Lebanon.

But these troops have more than proven on the battlefield that they are a match for the generation who preceded them, many of whom are now serving in reserve units that have been called back to active duty.

"We were face to face," another soldier said, describing his encounter with a Hezbollah fighter during the battle. "It was him or me. That type of thing has never happened to me before."

He shot the Hezbollah fighter at point-blank range.

Dr. Ariel A., 27, is a doctor with the 51st Brigade. He wanted to talk about his friend, Cpl. Asaf Namer, a 27-year-old Australian citizen who moved to Israel several years ago.

Asaf Namer completed his compulsory military service last, but volunteered to rejoin the troops when the current crisis erupted. "Essentially, he volunteered," Ariel said.

"Asaf came here with the values of the Jew who had to serve his country, the land of the Jews," he added.

"He was brave, he was strong. He did what he believed was right." By the time Ariel managed to reach Namer, he had already died of his wounds. "There was nothing I could do for him," he said.

In the underground shelter beneath the main hospital in Nahariya, a coastal city that has been under constant rocket attack for the past two weeks, 22-year old Adam Wolfson is recovering from wounds he received from a Hezbollah rocket.

"I was lucky," Wolfson told NewsMax. "The shrapnel hit between my legs, but only wounded my thighs, nothing else."

Wolfson was with an artillery unit on the Israeli side of the border, shelling Hezbollah positions, when a Hezbollah rocket landed nearby and hit an ammo dump.

His mother, Diana Anderson, 46, of Denver, Colo., was at his side in the hospital. "I have another son who is a paratrooper, as well," she said.

Like Namer, Wolfson completed his compulsory military service last year, and volunteered to rejoin his artillery unit when the fighting began.

"We'll get them," Wolfson said from his hospital bed. "We'll win."
Posted by: Captain America || 07/29/2006 18:24 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  May the God of Israel be with these young men as he was with their fathers!
Posted by: mac || 07/29/2006 18:56 Comments || Top||

#2  What mac said.

If anyone wants to help boost that high morale even more, consider sending some pizza & sodas to the IDF.

I just did.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 07/29/2006 19:55 Comments || Top||

#3  "[sic]have fretted over this new generation of soldiers. Some have suggested that Israel has become soft over the past 25 years"

Oooooh! The classic, blame the soldiers syndrome. The civilian leadership has become soft, not the soldiers. Whether its Clinton or Bush, no one would call the Marines, soft.
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 07/29/2006 19:59 Comments || Top||

#4  Why would your morale be high if you were being led by Olmert & Paretz? Something's missing.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/29/2006 21:56 Comments || Top||

#5  I can't understand why the Israeli government is acting so slowly in this war, and so weakly, as if there were not 100 rockets and missiles fired on Israel each day by Hezbo terrorists.

They should have bombed and burnt to the ground Bint Jbeil and Majnoun al-Ras, a long time ago.

This strange Israeli government doesn't seem to want to win this war, and I don't understand why.
Posted by: Javitch Jealing4436 || 07/29/2006 22:29 Comments || Top||

#6  Sorry, the post #5 is mine (I am posting from an Internet shop, and the computer had recordered the name of the precedent person who accessed rantburg from it).
Posted by: leroidavid || 07/29/2006 23:02 Comments || Top||

#7  Article: They brought everything in on their backs for more than 15 kilometers -- food, water, and ammunition -– and wound up staying five and a half days.

If this is true, it's nuts. Whatever happened to tanks and infantry fighting vehicles? Sounds a lot like Black Hawk Down, except the Israelis got into it by choice.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 07/29/2006 23:46 Comments || Top||


Islamic Jihad claims Kassam attack that wounded 2
The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility Friday for a rocket attack on a Negev town that wounded two children, who were hit by shrapnel.
Posted by: Fred || 07/29/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility Friday for a rocket attack on a Negev town that wounded two children, who were hit by shrapnel.

Gee, look ma, we wounded a couple of children

Posted by: Captain America || 07/29/2006 0:27 Comments || Top||

#2  And all the while, Israel is vilified for "targeting civilians" with not a peep about these rocket attacks. Incredible.
Posted by: PlanetDan || 07/29/2006 5:52 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Alleged bombers arrested for failed attack on Thai convoy
Police in Thailand's troubled deep South on Friday arrested two alleged militants who were suspected of planting a bomb targeting an convoy of justice and civil rights advocates during their field trip in Narathiwat Province on Thursday.

In a joint operation, more than 70 police and soldiers raided houses in Narathiwat's Ra-ngae District early Friday morning and arrested the men inside their homes, the official Thai News Agency said. They were identified as Udeeman Samoh and Sapee-aree Jekho, both 21 years old. Police also confiscated an 11 mm pistol and six rounds of ammunition which were hastily buried during the raid.

Police detained the two on suspicion of involvement in an attempted bombing at a bridge in Ra-ngae District Thursday. The bomb failed to harm a passing convoy of members of the Independent Commission on Justice and Civil Liberties for the Southern Border Provinces (ICJC).
Posted by: ryuge || 07/29/2006 07:21 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Them damn Bhuddists acting up again?
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/29/2006 12:58 Comments || Top||

#2  A convoy of "civil rights advocates"?

I'm conflicted.
Posted by: cruiser || 07/29/2006 13:00 Comments || Top||


Village raid nets 2 men linked to blast targeting peace team
Narathiwat: Police have arrested two suspected bombers, thought to belong to the Runda Kampulan Kecil (RKK) insurgent group, who allegedly targeted an entourage of an organisation promoting peace in the deep South on Thursday. They were arrested yesterday in a pre-dawn raid on Hulupareh village in Rangae district by an 80-strong combined force. Police detained Udeeman Samoh, 21, and Sapee-aree Jehkor, 21, who are believed to have set off a 5kg bomb near Klong Tanyong bridge on Rangae-Cho Airong road on Thursday. The attack was reportedly aimed at members of the Independent Commission on Justice and Civil Liberties for the Southern Border Provinces who travelled past the bridge minutes before the blast. Nobody was injured. The team was headed by commission chairman Ukrit Mongkolnavin. Police said they seized one 11mm pistol and ammunition from the two suspects. Investigators said Mr Udeeman is a very skilful bomb-maker and belongs to the RKK. Mr Sapee-aree is considered one of the group's top members.

In Pattani's Sai Buri district, meanwhile, police retrieved 11 assault rifles suspected to have been used in a recent insurgent attack on a military checkpoint in tambon Troh Bon. In Yala, four teenagers stormed a mobile phone shop in Muang district and made off with 30 SIM cards yesterday. Police believed it was the work of the Permudor, a local terrorist network. Elsewhere in Yala, separatist insurgents opened fire on a military outpost of the 534 special task force in Bannang Sata district yesterday. No injuries were reported.
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Three Thais held for ransom
Thai and Malaysian police have launched a joint rescue effort to help three Thai fishermen being held for ransom by pirates who recently abducted them in the Straits of Malacca. The three were identified as Rorhim Ali, 43, Boonlert Prommul, 50, and Wanmudtalem Madlem, 37. They were reported to be captains of Malaysian-owned fishing boats.

They were abducted by pirates in the Straits of Malacca on July 25 while sailing in international waters between Indonesia and Malaysia, police said. The pirates, believed to be holding the three in Aceh province in Indonesia, are demanding 1.2 million baht in ransom for each man.
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Sri Lanka
Finland to pull out of burning Sri Lanka
HELSINKI: Finland said on Friday that it would recall its ceasefire monitors from Sri Lanka, sparking fears of increased violence between the Sri Lankan government and Tamil Tiger rebels. The Finnish foreign ministry announced it would withdraw its 10 observers on security grounds before a September 1 deadline set by the rebels for all European Union ceasefire monitors to leave. "Based on the fact that the LTTE (Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam) are not going to guarantee the monitors' safety after September 1, we will recall our observers by then," mission desk officer Marita Maunola told AFP.
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Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Israeli Intell: Lebanese Helping Soldiers Locate Hezbollah Fighters
Lebanese citizens living in the Hezbollah stronghold of Bint Jbeil are aiding the Israeli soldiers advancing on terrorist enclaves in that southern Lebanon town. According to the Galil Report, many of the Lebanese, who refused to flee their homes, volunteered information to Israeli troops -- information that included the locations of Hezbollah members hiding in Bint Jbeil, as well as other terrorist installations in the region.

Bint Jbeil is widely known to be Hezbollah's "capital" in southern Lebanon, and most of its residents "see Hezbollah as having held them captive for years, using their village to fire rockets and plan attacks. They are eager to get Hezbollah out of their town," said a US intelligence source.

Historically, the Israel Defense Forces and the South Lebanon Army maintained positions in and around Bint Jbeil during Israel's 18-year occupation of southern Lebanon, and had cultivated good relations with many of the town's residents. In addition, over the years Israeli intelligence officers have formed alliances with their Lebanese counterparts and gathered intelligence from these informants. While police use the term "informants," intelligence operatives use the term "assets" to describe those providing information.

Meanwhile, Israeli ground forces are pushing Hezbollah terrorists from positions in southern Lebanon, and they are collecting the bodies of the gunmen killed in battle and storing them in refrigerated containers in Israel.
Hizbillies, the other white meat.
Military officials told the AP that six bodies had been collected and transferred to Israel so far. In previous years, the Israeli government would trade the corpses of Hezbollah fighters, along with jailed Lebanese and Palestinians, for Israelis abducted by the terror group.

However, according to Ha'aratz, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert "insists Israel will not conduct a prisoner exchange for the two Israel Defense Forces soldiers taken by Hezbollah on July 12, which sparked off [sic] the current round of violence." Hezbollah corpses not returned to Lebanon are buried in special cemeteries set aside for terrorists. Both the Jewish and Muslim faiths require quick burial of the deceased.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 07/29/2006 11:05 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Them Hez varmints been makin trouble round here. Eatin up all my chickens and makin eyes at my daughter. Run them buggers off, specially that one with the beard!
Posted by: remoteman || 07/29/2006 11:34 Comments || Top||

#2  Duh....heznullies are a minority within lebanon, naturally those suffering under the reckless moves of the group, will quietly assist Any liberating force. hezbullies are claimed to be legitimate part of lebanese government. All lebanases should be asking themselves when resolutions were passed making the hezbullies the official government, whereas they and they alone declare war subjecting the rest of the lebanese to the reults.

All u n posturing to save the hezbullies is an attempt to sustain another left wing government; where another population can be subjected to cadre behaviors, despite those behaviors being inimical to thier health and well being. Same ole stuff. The appendage is religion, this is the class warfare used to recruit the useful idiots needed to conduct campaigns; the socialist international is at the heart of all of this garbage.

Posted by: Whinert Ulert1980 || 07/29/2006 12:15 Comments || Top||

#3  I bet. Havin' those guys hang around is downright unhealthy.
Posted by: mojo || 07/29/2006 12:42 Comments || Top||

#4  Interesting the difference between the MSM reporting of the nearly unilateral support for Hezbollah in Lebanon, and what surfaces elsewhere.

I say take pictures of the corpses, send the imagery to Aljezz.
Posted by: anymouse || 07/29/2006 14:38 Comments || Top||

#5  special cemeteries set aside for terrorists

I think Massachusetts and Vermont would make lovely "special cemeteries." POTUS, make it so!
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/29/2006 17:29 Comments || Top||


New Hezbollah rocket barrage hits northern Israel
JERUSALEM - Dozens of rockets fired by Hezbollah guerrillas in Lebanon hit towns across northern Israel on Friday, wounding at least six people, police said. A local ambulance station was hit by one rocket that landed in the town of Safed causing no injuries, the Magen David Adom ambulance service said.

Six other towns, including Kiryat Shemona, Nahariya, Rosh Pina and Karmiel, were also hit. Longer-range rockets fell in open areas close to the town of Afula and the Sea of Galilee resort of Tiberias, a police spokesman said.

Around 60 rockets were fired in all, he said.

Hezbollah has fired more than 1,500 rockets into Israel since the conflict erupted following a cross-border raid into Israel by the Shi’ite militia on July 12.
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IAF strikes over 40 Hizbullah targets in Lebanon
Since Friday morning, the IAF has struck two Hizbullah rocket launchers, six buildings belonging to the organization, five weapons warehouses, and two Hizbullah bases. A total of over 40 targets were hit in IAF strikes.
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Nahariya hospital hit by rocket
The public building in Nahariya that was hit by a rocket earlier Friday was a hospital.
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Iran stops would-be Hizbullah volunteers at border
Iran on Friday denied US allegations that it is supporting Hizbullah's war against Israel, and Iranians who wanted to fight for the Lebanese group complained their government was stopping them from leaving the country.
"Shhhh! Later, youse guys! Later! Why don't you... ummm... go on a pilgrimage or something?"
"Like to Najaf?"
"Najaf's nice this time of year."
A group of 120 Iranians who volunteered to fight for Hizbullah said they were refused permission to go through Bazargan crossing, near the eastern Turkish town of Dogubayazit. They planned to travel through Turkey and Syria to Lebanon. "The authorities said we could not pass through the border as we were wearing a kind of uniform," Ali Komeili, a spokesman for the volunteers, told The Associated Press. "We have sat here in protest at Bazargan border crossing to convince them to let us pass."
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#1  Rocketts take a pause in route to Allantown
Posted by: Captain America || 07/29/2006 0:36 Comments || Top||

#2  Could it be, Iran gets the message?
Posted by: gromgoru || 07/29/2006 0:40 Comments || Top||

#3  gromgoru, what message? Someone messed up, they were supposed to be told "civilian clothing", not a kind of uniform. I am sure once they change their attire, all will be just fine.

OTOH, it may be that Iranian leadership wants to boom them somewhere else.
Posted by: twobyfour || 07/29/2006 1:16 Comments || Top||

#4  This is rich. Iran publicly stops angry students at the border. Meanwhile Revolutionary Guards and materiel are likely entering Lebanon as "aid workers and supplies".

A magician should have such sleight of hand.
Posted by: Fordesque || 07/29/2006 9:46 Comments || Top||

#5  I'll show those Zionists! Hold me back! Hold me back!
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/29/2006 9:50 Comments || Top||

#6  LOL, tu3031! Instant imagery, LOL.
Posted by: cruiser || 07/29/2006 10:07 Comments || Top||

#7  Iran can't establish "plausible deniability" if the "volunteers" are this blatant.

Or this whole thing could be a piece of theater that was part of the effort to establish pd.
Posted by: charger || 07/29/2006 12:56 Comments || Top||

#8  charger---It isn't plausible deniability, its denying plausibility, heh. The Syrians and Iranians are pushing the envelope of getting wacked big time. Just like they miscalculated on the IDF soldiers kidnapping, they will put a big rocket or missile in the wrong place and hell will rain down. Israel is being very restrained (not a good idea) right now.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 07/29/2006 14:00 Comments || Top||

#9  Damn they even use the goose step!
Posted by: RJB in JC MO || 07/29/2006 14:48 Comments || Top||

#10  #9 - I've been told goose-stepping is very hard on the knees, so hopefully they'll soon have painful knee problems. Inshallah. ;-p
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 07/29/2006 22:28 Comments || Top||


IDF forces kill 26 Hizbullah operatives in Bint Jbail
IDF forces killed 26 Hizbullah operatives on Friday during an intense firefight in the southern Lebanon village of Bint Jbail. Soldiers operating in the village found and confiscated dozens of guns and rifles, stocks of ammunition, grenades, mines, and five anti-tank missiles.

Meanwhile, the IDF confirmed that an unmanned drone crashed in Lebanese territory on Friday. The army denied the claim made by Al-Manar, saying that its patron Hizbullah shot down the craft. Israel asserted that the cause of the crash was most likely technical problems. The IDF destroyed the remains of the craft so that it would not fall into Hizbullah hands, Israel Radio reported.

Earlier Friday, the IDF confirmed that Nur Shalhov, a senior Hizbullah official who was responsible for smuggling weapons into Lebanon, including the long-range missile array the organization possesses that can reach deep into Israel, was killed Thursday in an IAF strike. Shalhov was hit by IAF missiles while traveling in a car in the Bekaa Valley, and a number of other Hizbullah operatives were also killed in the attack. The car was packed with missiles when it was hit.
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Posted by: Fred || 07/29/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I wonder if they have a video of the Nur Shalhov air strike.
Posted by: Penguin || 07/29/2006 0:28 Comments || Top||

#2  He who live by the missile will die by the missile
Posted by: Captain America || 07/29/2006 0:40 Comments || Top||

#3  26 less hezzie-cockroaches to steal oxygen.
Posted by: anymouse || 07/29/2006 0:58 Comments || Top||

#4  Shalhov was hit by IAF missiles while traveling in a car...

Hmmm, single vehicle or enough of a convoy to be of military interest? We keep getting reports of a single house or vehicle being targeted. Makes me wonder if someone is dropping a dime on the Hizbers.
Posted by: SteveS || 07/29/2006 10:37 Comments || Top||

#5  26 dead, that means another 1872 raisins. I hope Allan has lots of grape vines... and some strong sun.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 07/29/2006 17:29 Comments || Top||

#6  If anybody wondered as to the definite number
As Battalion 890 of the Paratroopers Brigade began to pull out of Bint Jbail, Military Intelligence personnel using an unmanned aerial vehicle spotted a group of Hizbullah terrorists on motorcycles on their way to set up an ambush for the withdrawing troops.
Leb version of Hell Angels?
IDF troops deployed accordingly and engaged the enemy force, killing 26 guerrillas. Seven soldiers were wounded, including one seriously.
Posted by: gromgoru || 07/29/2006 20:37 Comments || Top||

#7  Hey Ben...spin the cam to the left, yes, that cloud of dust. Yea, WTF? Bugger me, it's a pack of 26 Suzuki trail bikes.
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/29/2006 20:41 Comments || Top||


Your Yahoo! News headlines of the day
• Hezbollah politicians back peace package
• Hezbollah fires new rockets into Israel
No screen cap for you, but there you have it, right on the front page, one right after the other...
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/29/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Doublethink lives.
Posted by: gromgoru || 07/29/2006 0:30 Comments || Top||

#2 

hell talk peace 24/7,

BUT don't stop Israel, Keep that can of whoop-ass open...
Posted by: RD || 07/29/2006 0:55 Comments || Top||

#3  ohh, it is open sensei. It is open.
Ahh, grasshopper.
Posted by: newc || 07/29/2006 1:25 Comments || Top||

#4  You guys are such boneheads I love watching you all toss your opinions around like you know what¡¦s going on. I¡¦m a capital projects engineer for one of the majors (oil producers that is). Israel has been trying for years to get this oil and gas (two-phase) pipeline from Turkey (originating in Kazakhstan). Lebanon and Syria have been opposed to it for years. They thought they would be able to get it through Iraq, but alas no go. Oh, how convenient, TERRORIST IN Lebanon. I¡¦m disgusted at myself; I make tons of money from this shit. It¡¦s Blood money. Turkey is now going to be the peace keepers in Lebanon-how convenient. This war is a joke. Oil is power, Germany didn¡¦t lose WWII„³ It ran out of gas. If you idiots had any brains, you¡¦d see what is really going on. The US has to get that energy at any cost. That is the reality. I live for oil and have for many years, it¡¦s my livelihood. So that is what¡¦s going on. We are killing people for power, not for some kind of moral high ground--plain and simple. If you¡¦re going talk all this bull at least you can do it knowing its bull. Isn't nice to know your murdering for power rather morality. Just thought I'd fill you all in.
Posted by: Mike || 07/29/2006 2:55 Comments || Top||

#5  LOL. Thanks for spewing dropping by. I feel your dementia pain. BTW, you're the whore hero of this thread. Fuck you Thanks, again.
Posted by: cruiser || 07/29/2006 3:01 Comments || Top||

#6  Mike: Why spend so much on a "war for oil" when we can just buy a couple tankers full and ship it to Israel and the problem will go away for years?

Oil is cheap. War is expensive.

Now go get some counseling for that ego of yours that is hiding behind your guilt. ;-)
Posted by: gorb || 07/29/2006 3:17 Comments || Top||

#7  My G*d will you f*cking trolls get over the war for oil sh*t it is so 2003.
Posted by: djohn66 || 07/29/2006 3:35 Comments || Top||

#8  Whatever dude I voted for Bush.
Posted by: Mike || 07/29/2006 3:39 Comments || Top||

#9  Well good for you, but what does that have to do with you sounding like an idiot.
Posted by: djohn66 || 07/29/2006 3:46 Comments || Top||

#10  "I¡¦m a capital projects engineer for one of the majors (oil producers that is)."

Translation from moonbatese to sane speak: He lives with his Mother. At 50.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 07/29/2006 3:50 Comments || Top||

#11  Hell everytime the price of oil goes up my rate goes up. This has been the best thing to happen in my career. I was all for the Iraq war. Only three majors were allowed to do E&P there (Total, Luk, and the Chinks). We had to get those strategic reserves out of their hands. I'm just telling it like it is. Oh, by the way, logistic and economics make a pipeline work out. If you have to build a marine terminal, unfortunately it doesn't make much sense, especially when you have to depend on Arab sources. Therefore Caspian sources are more reliable. Basically, war starts in middle east and there goes your crude supply.
Posted by: Mike || 07/29/2006 3:53 Comments || Top||

#12  If your next key punch is distillate supply?? Distillate supply is totally unreliable. Europe won't sell them distillate. And the America has barely enough for us. The Isrealis are boxed in and they know it.
Posted by: Mike || 07/29/2006 3:58 Comments || Top||

#13  Mike: Have you anything to say about comment #6, or are you still trying to cobble up some way it fits your theory? Or are you going to sidestep the issue by substituting up to world supply now?
Posted by: gorb || 07/29/2006 4:03 Comments || Top||

#14  You think oil is cheap you're about to get schooled in the US how cheap Oil is. BHAHAHAHA!!
Chavez is selling 20% of our crude supply to India and China. Iran just set up a bourse to sell crude in Euros. All crude used to be traded in dollars. Russia and Chavez are already joining up. That was the only thing propping up the dollar. Every country had to buy $$'s before they could buy oil. That means the $$ tanks and you can buy even less oil.
Posted by: Mike || 07/29/2006 4:04 Comments || Top||

#15  BTW: Nobody gives a $hit how much money you make except you, and it doesn't substitute for expertise. Hell, you could be some college Freshman who makes money getting Greenpeace petitions signed for a living. Talk sense, and people here will listen.
Posted by: gorb || 07/29/2006 4:06 Comments || Top||

#16  How much does a tanker of oil cost?

So far everything you have said I have seen on the internet in one form or another. I'm still not impressed.
Posted by: gorb || 07/29/2006 4:07 Comments || Top||

#17  A college freshman doesn't know what API gravity is? Give me a break.
Posted by: Mike || 07/29/2006 4:12 Comments || Top||

#18  Must be out on the internet looking for the capacity of a tanker before he multiplies by the price of oil before all this hit the fan.
Posted by: gorb || 07/29/2006 4:13 Comments || Top||

#19  What's API gravity. I'm not a college Freshman. :-)
Posted by: gorb || 07/29/2006 4:14 Comments || Top||

#20  I specialize in Heavy crude upgrading. I've worked for have the independant in the US a couple majors and two EPC (Engineering Procurement and Construction) (i.e. Bectel & Fluor) in the gulf.
Posted by: Mike || 07/29/2006 4:16 Comments || Top||

#21  Nice try poser.
Posted by: Classical_Liberal || 07/29/2006 4:16 Comments || Top||

#22  Y'know, son, you can post all you want about your expertise, supply, political and economic shifting sands, etc., in the awl bidness. We all know about our fields and could, if it were relevant, do the same. Yawn.

What makes you "speshul" is this:
"We are killing people for power, not for some kind of moral high ground--plain and simple."

Define "power". Then justify your idiocy. What you've posted since #4 is stuff we can get from 20 different people here. Be constructive and informative or fuck the fuck off. We get trolls spewing just like you every day.

Bonehead.
Posted by: cruiser || 07/29/2006 4:16 Comments || Top||

#23  Are you accepting your pay in Euros or Dollars? :-)
Posted by: gorb || 07/29/2006 4:18 Comments || Top||

#24  Iraqi scalps, I bet.
Posted by: cruiser || 07/29/2006 4:21 Comments || Top||

#25  Unfortunely, you don't know if you have cancer until a specialist like Oncologist tells you.

By for now gargoyles
Posted by: Mike || 07/29/2006 4:21 Comments || Top||

#26  Bye, poseur.
Posted by: cruiser || 07/29/2006 4:21 Comments || Top||

#27  I specialize in Heavy crude upgrading. I've worked for have the independant in the US a couple majors and two EPC (Engineering Procurement and Construction) (i.e. Bectel & Fluor) in the gulf.

Here's how I read this:

I specialize in blah blah blah. I've worked for have the [sic] blah in the US a couple blah and two EPC (blah blah & blah) (i.e. Bectel & Fluor) in the gulf.

What does this mean in English? And how does it drive home your point? It's not going to help many others here, either. But you knew that when you wrote it.

You started saying that this war was so Israel could get oil. I say a tanker or two a year would be a lot cheaper than going to war.

Are you trying to say something other than what I think?
Posted by: gorb || 07/29/2006 4:22 Comments || Top||

#28  Well, Mike ran away, so I will say a couple of things. Every nation has so much in reserves right now to my understanding that they are having tankers do circles before they come in to top off another tank.

Distillate supply in Israel? Israel's got a refinery or two of its own. Not a problem.

Mike isn't the only player out there, there are plenty of advisors on Wall Street, and they don't seem to be too afraid.

Personally, he seems to know some things, but not as much as he's claiming.

As for me, I'll continue to hold dollars for now.

Nighty nighty, Mike. Gotta bone up for that exam, I assume. :-)

Posted by: gorb || 07/29/2006 4:29 Comments || Top||

#29  For some reason people who work in oil and gas are prone to this kind of quasi-conspiracy thinking. A friend of mine in O&G infrastructure is intelligent and well informed, but he has some really bizzare conspiracy thinking about how secret deals and machinations in the O&G business drives world events.
Posted by: phil_b || 07/29/2006 5:40 Comments || Top||

#30  Goodness, I'm even more glad that Mr. Wife didn't take that job with Exxon when he got his BS/Chem.E. Clearly I would like what he would've become, even aside from living in parts of the world not fond of nice, little Jewish girls whose fathers are Israeli war heroes.

Chavez is selling 20% of our crude supply to India and China, quoth dear Mike the oil man. He's gone native in a bad way, it appears, besides being a consummate ass. A pity -- he was probably kind to his mother in his youth.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/29/2006 7:16 Comments || Top||

#31  Dude, you're going to have to pick a new handle. I got here first.
Posted by: Mike || 07/29/2006 7:57 Comments || Top||

#32  Kazakh oil was limited to pipelines through Russia and then tankers through the Bosporus, but recently I believe the new pipeline was opened across Turkey (though perhaps the eastern extension is not open yet.) Why would Israel want a pipeline through its enemy Syria (and maybe also Lebanon) when it could run coastal tankers a few hundred miles? Even if the did manage to defeat Syria and make them a colony to host such a pipeline it would be subject to constant sabotage - if they really, really insisted on a pipeline instead of tankers they could lay it through the Med cheaper than fighting an unending war.
As a heavy crude upgrader, Mike's talents should be in very high demand in Alberta, where the tar sand minds are expanding like crazy. Similar projects are very possible in Venezuela if they can get their economic and political systems functioning - China may help them out, but at this point it would not be the most efficient path. China is cultivating and fertilizing Chavez shamelessly, because it needs a stable oil supply, and to 'distract' the US; they're doing the same with Iran and Kazakhstan. Long-term the latter make better sense for Chinese supply and Venezuela for US, just because of the substantial difference in transportation costs - if a government insists on selling to a less efficient market for political purposes it is going to eat a big hunk of that increased cost in price offsets, and thus make less money (meaning less cash flow from which to steal.)

Phil_b - I'm in the O&G business too and I don't see all these bizarre corporate conspiracies - though lobbying for favorable political decisions is standard practice (cash-assisted lobbying is frowned upon, even internationally, but I don't doubt it goes on at some level.) As far as the Iraq War being about oil - it is, but not about Iraq oil. Iraq has a good deal of oil, and good potential to find and develop more, but its real significance is as a fulcrum for moving the other big boys in the region - KSA and Iran. From the perspective of fighting the war on Islamofascism those two were as big or bigger problems than Iraq but 1) there was no legal 'excuse' for attacking them, 2) there was no logistical base from which to attack them, and especially 3) the developed world economies were too dependent on their oil to risk attacking them. The War on Islamofascism is intimately connected to oil so whatever is done to fight that war is going to simultaneously be 'about the oil'.
Posted by: Glenmore || 07/29/2006 8:12 Comments || Top||

#33  Bectel
You'd think he'd know how they spell their name...

Hell everytime the price of oil goes up my rate goes up
That might be true for this "Mike", but I *know* it's true for Ahmedineedablowjob in Iran. And every time he opens his cakehole about Israel, up goes the price.
Posted by: eLarson || 07/29/2006 8:26 Comments || Top||

#34 
" I specialize in Heavy crude upgrading."

Yes, but can you put together an intelligible sentence? yawn So far, it doesn't seem as if you have impressed anyone here, Mr. Capital Projects Engineer.

You should go back to glueing together the pages of your Dad's old Hustler magazines. Buh Bye!

-M
Posted by: Manolo || 07/29/2006 8:40 Comments || Top||

#35  if you're an engineer why haven't you leaned how too use an apostrophe yet?
Posted by: honkey || 07/29/2006 9:10 Comments || Top||

#36  Chavez is selling 20% of our crude supply to India and China. Iran just set up a bourse to sell crude in Euros.

Hey let's do a PEEK OIL THREAD! Wheeeeee! New versions of black heliocopters, Bilderburgers, Trilateralists and triple K morons from the heartland. Thank you visting Mike for reminding us of our inner kook.
Posted by: 6 || 07/29/2006 9:25 Comments || Top||

#37  Hey Honkey, engineers do math, english majors do apostrophes. :>)
Posted by: Glenmore || 07/29/2006 9:41 Comments || Top||

#38  engineers also have too take english in school
Posted by: honkey || 07/29/2006 9:56 Comments || Top||

#39  Either that last comment was an embarassing mistake or it was a nicely subtle response. One or t'other. LOL
Posted by: lotp || 07/29/2006 9:59 Comments || Top||

#40  If Chavez is selling "20% of our crude supply to India and China", why the hell was he having to buy oil from other (more expensive) sources to fill contract requirements?
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 07/29/2006 10:11 Comments || Top||

#41  Hey Honkey, engineers do math, english majors do apostrophes. :>)

And remember there are 3 kinds of engineers: those who are good with math and those that aren't. ;-/
Posted by: eLarson || 07/29/2006 10:21 Comments || Top||

#42  "You guys are such boneheads"..."Just thought I'd fill you all in."

Intros and money shots often reveal the motivation. This appears to be a classic example of that theory.
Posted by: DepotGuy || 07/29/2006 10:30 Comments || Top||

#43  If Chavez is selling "20% of our crude supply to India and China", why the hell was he having to buy oil from other (more expensive) sources to fill contract requirements?

He was an English major.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/29/2006 10:54 Comments || Top||

#44 
"Hey let's do a PEEK OIL THREAD!"

I have a better idea, why don't we do a PEAK OIL THREAD instead!

English, so hard, for so many.

-M
Posted by: Manolo || 07/29/2006 11:11 Comments || Top||

#45  English, so hard, for so many.

As long as I can type the url of porn sites and understand the pics descriptions, I'm satisfied with my fluency in english. I'm the kind of guy who has low expectations about himself.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 07/29/2006 11:14 Comments || Top||

#46  "As long as I can type the url of porn sites and understand the pics descriptions, I'm satisfied with my fluency in english. I'm the kind of guy who has low expectations about himself."

A worthy aspiration. Seriously though, I make allowances for individuals where English is their 2nd language, but not so much for those that should know better. You at least are able to communicate your meaning.

There's nothing like the peace of mind that comes from diminished expectations, is there?

-M
Posted by: Manolo || 07/29/2006 11:26 Comments || Top||

#47  Manolo buddy, english ist my frist and only language, I'll abuse it as i SEE fit. ARe you understand? Or do I need to make fun of your kooky semi fascist comments?
Posted by: 6 || 07/29/2006 12:27 Comments || Top||

#48  You've faded badly Manolo. Rerun city. Nicely parsed but boring as always.
Posted by: 6 || 07/29/2006 12:38 Comments || Top||

#49  the oil thread

Ima gl'dus.. does itum count that I werked for Raymond International, Morrison-Knudsen, Healy Tibbitts, the Bechtel ppl waay back doin the oil thangy in North Africus..

I like Ike and eng'lish
Posted by: RD || 07/29/2006 13:30 Comments || Top||

#50  Wow, this was a nothing thread until Mike jumped in. I don't think he's 100% correct, but he's not 100% wrong. The Bushes are oil men. Cheney, as one of their major flunkies is too. Supposedly, good ol' Dick was subdividing the Iraqi oil fields during that meeting in his office. Why does anyone think the Brits sided in on Iraq ? They wanted to get back into southern Iraq where their oil interests were. Do you see them helping on Israel-Leb ? Hell no. Blair is bleating in Bush's ear for an immediate ceasefire. Everyone in this game is there to make their own money grab. Did we give a damn about OSB or Taliban ? Or did we want to enable the pipeline thru Afghan ? Karsai's 1st duty...sign off on pipeline right-of-way. Also, we could site bases along the Iran border. Did we do it ? You bet your ass. We have a lot of oil in Gulf and along west coast shelf areas. We just need to get it. Why do you think Bush is kissing Mexico's (I would ahve said Fox, but he's just one pawn among many) ass? Why does his brother spend majority of his time in Mexico City ? We all know the oil reserve potential Mexico has. We all know that they themselves are incompetent to develop it. Why is there this push to evolve this One America's idea ? This goes from Mexico to Canada. Think it may have anything to do with energy development ? Also lets all corporations totally gut unions and move all jobs to Mexico. All new GM & Ford vehicles will be built in Mexico and shipped duty free right into US. All maritime shipping is going into massive ports developed in Mexico. Again, trans-shipped via revitalized railroads duty free into US. Those lucrative dock worker jobs in So. Cal will be greatly diminished, if not totally gone. So Mike is right. There are linkages. Never think men are doing things for the goodwill of other mankind. Never happens. Just spend some time reviewing history.
Posted by: SOP35/Rat || 07/29/2006 13:35 Comments || Top||

#51  Everyone in this game is there to make their own money grab. Did we give a damn about OSB or Taliban ?

0 beJesus & beeDamned, ima out of this thread...
Posted by: RD || 07/29/2006 13:49 Comments || Top||

#52 
"#47 Manolo buddy, english ist my frist and only language, I'll abuse it as i SEE fit. ARe you understand? Or do I need to make fun of your kooky semi fascist comments?"

And you abuse it so well! There is nothing "semi" about my fascism. Make fun all you like, I could use the entertainment.

"#48 You've faded badly Manolo. Rerun city. Nicely parsed but boring as always."

Huh? Faded how? I must have used the wrong cycle. I'll take nicely parsed and boring over unintelligible any time. It is difficult to take someone seriously when their prose is so badly garbled, even if their argument has merit. Language is the tool we use to communicate, and when the tool is dull I assume the user is too.

HAND!

-M
Posted by: Manolo || 07/29/2006 13:58 Comments || Top||

#53  Does Israel even have enough demand to make an oil pipeline worth it? I would suspect not. Their power plants run off coal I believe, so there's no real urgency driven by that. It's not like their economy deals with huge industrial demands, either. They even have solar-powered water pre-heaters on top of all their housing! What they would need it for mostly would be maybe asphalt, heating, and transportation.
Posted by: gorb || 07/29/2006 14:06 Comments || Top||

#54  If Mexico has so much oil, worst case is I'm sure they'd invite us in to develop it for them. It would bring them a ton of money, which they could obviously use. It makes no sense to sit on it.
Posted by: gorb || 07/29/2006 14:09 Comments || Top||

#55  I worked in the oil business for a bit - in seismic data processing and as a geophysical technician. It's a crazy business.

Hezbollah is getting its a$$ kicked in southern Lebanon. They're firing Katyusha rockets like they're cheap, and costing Iran a bundle, with little to show for it. Sure, they want a cease-fire. Hudnas are great for islamonutcases. Let Israel continue to dismantle hezbollah's capabilities for a couple of more weeks, THEN agree to a peace plan that requires ARMED, COMPETENT SOLDIERS on the Israel/Lebanon border, with ROEs that allow killing hezbollah "warriors" attempting to re-establish a southern Lebanon presence. Otherwise, the entire operation is a waste of time, treasure and blood.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 07/29/2006 14:13 Comments || Top||

#56  Fact:
- There is enough oil in the ground in Alberta and WY/CO to fuel the US for decades. The only thing they need is NG to drive the distillation process. That's why AK NG and NG from the McKenzie River Delta is so vital.
Posted by: anymouse || 07/29/2006 14:19 Comments || Top||

#57  I thought PEEK OIL THREAD was nicely ironic. Got a smile out of me anyway.
Posted by: phil_b || 07/29/2006 14:22 Comments || Top||

#58  anymouse: So you're suggesting not being able to drill in Alaska has been holding up the process of becoming energy independent? Why would we let a bunch of environmentalists stand in the way? Reclassify them as terrorists and move forward! :-) Just kidding about the terrorist thing. I recycle, too!
Posted by: gorb || 07/29/2006 14:22 Comments || Top||

#59  I gotta disappear for a while. The electrical outlets are telling me I might be abducted by aliens unless I hide in a culvert in the park down the road for a few hours and make barking sounds.
Posted by: gorb || 07/29/2006 14:24 Comments || Top||

#60  Manolo doesn't do Irony. It's two dam difficult.
Language is the tool we use to communicate, and when the tool is dull I assume the user is too.
;> Nice cheap shot plagerizer.
Posted by: 6 || 07/29/2006 14:31 Comments || Top||

#61  I gotta disappear for a while. The electrical outlets are telling me I might be abducted by aliens unless I hide in a culvert in the park down the road for a few hours and make barking sounds.

Gorb, watch out for the bunny rabbits. They're plotting to ambush you while you're alone in that culvert.

:-)

Posted by: FOTSGreg || 07/29/2006 18:34 Comments || Top||

#62  I gotta disappear for a while. The electrical outlets are telling me I might be abducted by aliens unless I hide in a culvert in the park down the road for a few hours and make barking sounds.

Gorb, watch out for the bunny rabbits. They're plotting to ambush you while you're alone in that culvert.

:-)

Posted by: FOTSGreg || 07/29/2006 18:35 Comments || Top||

#63  I am a verbal who married an engineer. I wasn't actually an English major (math and dance, with all my spare time spent reading whatever didn't manage to run away first, but I hated the analyses used in English department, and as it turned out I was a high-functioning non-mathematician with a science jones). In my considerable experience, most engineers can spell when they remember to run the spell check program *and* manage to choose the correct alternative -- that's why for the more difficult words there is a standard spelling and a scientific spelling -- or when a verbal type runs a quick eye over it before it goes out. Some engineers are trainable; some are only interested in efficient communication, which spelling and minor grammatical errors do not impede; and some type as fast as they think, which leads to a charming but independent set of errors (see our darling muck4doo for an extreme example of clear thinking coupled with significantly overclocked fingers). So for the subset of humans involved in the mathematics-related disciplines, spelling and grammar are not indicators of clarity of thought, no matter what your Second Grade spelling teacher said. Even if it drives me personally crazy, especially the typos I commit when I get tired.

No, Mike the oilman's failures in this thread are independent of his verbal/written lacks (he probably says, "Between you and I," too -- and the justice system of this country refuses to shoot people for that!!!). Manolo dear, I believe Mr. 6 is, in one of his incarnations, a teacher of writing and thinking skills. His errors are nicely calculated to get the most bang for his typing buck.

And some quibbles: first for Mike the oilman, who doesn't seem to know that Nazi Germany was synthesizing oil from coal. If Germany ran out of oil, that was one componant of their defeat, along with losing all territory to invading Allied armies, and having almost all their infrastructure, both military and civilian bombed to bouncing rubble.

Second, Israel is, to the best of my knowledge, one of the most energy efficient societies around these days. They have, amongst other things, the highest square footage of solar collectors per capita in the world, intense conservation of water, and high usage of public transport.

As for Hizb'allah, let them sue for peace after being completely defeated-- nothing less should be acceptable to anyone. And Lebanon can darn well sign a proper, enforceable peace treaty as well, one wherein it is clearly stated that the entire country will be held culpable if anything like this is allowed to happen again. The IDF is getting lots of quiet help, apparently, from Lebanese who disagree with Hizb'allah's choices -- in the current world environment that is going to have to become overt. A visiting friend told me today his personal fear after watching developments over the last few years from his standpoint in a small town in central Pennsylvania is that the Muslim world will force us to kill them all. The gentleman in question is not a Rantburg reader, in fact he isn't politically active at all as far as I know, and yet he on his own came to this conclusion. It's clearly getting near time when the Muslims and the Arabs, both here and there, are going to have to openly show which side they are on -- the Lebanese can go next.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/29/2006 23:18 Comments || Top||

#64  yeah/>lpolllmjom
Posted by: honkey || 07/29/2006 23:40 Comments || Top||

#65  i thin i knoew everhan but since i MISPLESDD IT i'm right'
Posted by: honkey || 07/29/2006 23:41 Comments || Top||

#66 
"...is that the Muslim world will force us to kill them all."

There is no doubt in my mind that we will be forced to kill them all, or most of them anyway.

"It's clearly getting near time when the Muslims and the Arabs, both here and there, are going to have to openly show which side they are on..."

I think they have already done that. Except, the left, (media, intelligentsia...etc.) and our politicians are refusing to listen. How many times do they have to say that they intend to kill or enslave us all before our high and mighty political class believe them?

Sheesh, I'm going to bed. Good night.

-M
Posted by: Manolo || 07/29/2006 23:54 Comments || Top||

#67 
Honkey huh? The term suits you, no really, it does.

Say hi tour sister/wife, or is it wife/sister.

-M
Posted by: Manolo || 07/29/2006 23:55 Comments || Top||

#68 
Damn it! tour = to your

-M
Posted by: Manolo || 07/29/2006 23:56 Comments || Top||


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Over 30 gunmen surrender in Chechnya amnestyMilitants taking over check-postsIran stops would-be Hizbullah volunteers at borderIDF forces kill 26 Hizbullah operatives in Bint JbailRice to return to Mideast to work on cease-fireSecurity Council nears deal on Iran resolutionThree Thais held for ransom
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#1  yep she seduced me..its all her fault.
Posted by: RD || 07/29/2006 13:51 Comments || Top||

#2  Nice!
Posted by: RJB in JC MO || 07/29/2006 14:40 Comments || Top||

#3  I must be getting old. I like the subtly of these bathing suits.
Posted by: JohnQC || 07/29/2006 17:15 Comments || Top||

#4  Not old, John, we just appreciate the barely concealed sexuality.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 07/29/2006 19:43 Comments || Top||

#5  A man's imagination will always be better than what's actually concealed, DB.

Too bad so many young women today don't know that.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 07/29/2006 19:57 Comments || Top||

#6  Spot on, Barbara. I'm in my mid-50's but this "show it all" mentality of today leaves me cold. Give me 50's and 60's cheesecake any day. And "lots of make-up" dont necessarily mean pretty, either.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 07/29/2006 20:47 Comments || Top||

#7  The tatoos do me in, along with the low jeans and "whale tails." We used to call it pri** teasing. A little modesty is a good thing.
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