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-Short Attention Span Theater-
RNC to launch White Flag ad

This is Drudge with no other backup.

The DRUDGE REPORT has learned from a top GOP operative that the Republican National Committee will provide state parties with a web video prior to release tomorrow afternoon that shows a white flag waving over images of Democrat leaders making anti-war remarks. The ad is in response to the controversial comments Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean and 2004 Democratic Presidential nominee John Kerry made earlier in the week.

A Democratic strategist who had the web ad described to her said, “This is way over the top but we have no one to blame but Dean, Kerry and others who continue to pander to the anti-war activists within our party.”

The web video advances the Republican contention that the Democrats only have a “retreat and defeat” message on the war in Iraq. The video highlights the effect Democrats can have on the morale of U.S. soldiers.

One Republican strategist familiar with the ad said, “The Democrats, especially Howard Dean have a way of trying to turn the tables and say ‘that’s not what I meant’ – its just those ‘evil Republicans’ This video will make them crazy – it reinforces what they really believe with what they actually said – and that is devastating for the Democratic Party.”
Posted by: Jackal || 12/08/2005 19:23 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I somehow managed to post this twice, here and on page 2 where it belongs. Please delete this copy.

Sorry about that, Chief.
Posted by: Jackal || 12/08/2005 19:27 Comments || Top||

#2  No sweat Agent 86..go tell agent 99 to meet me over to my place tonight at 2100.
Posted by: The Chief (Thaddeus) || 12/08/2005 19:55 Comments || Top||

#3  The web video advances the Republican contention that the Democrats only have a “retreat and defeat” message on the war in Iraq. The video highlights the effect Democrats can have on the morale of U.S. soldiers.

Jeeze I hope it's true. The GOP needs to grow friggin backbone at some point.
Posted by: jpal || 12/08/2005 21:25 Comments || Top||


Bangladesh
Bomb attack in Bangladeshi town
At least six people have been killed and more than 50 injured in a bomb blast in northern Bangladesh. The blast took place in a crowded street in the town of Netrakona, as police examined a suspicious package. The attack - apparently set off by two men on a bicycle - took place outside the office of a secular cultural group.
Well, you can't have one of those in a future islamic state
Police at the scene say two men rode up on a bicycle and dropped a package on the street. Eyewitnesses say a big crowd had collected to watch the police examine the package thought to contain a bomb, when the explosion took place. "It was a terrible sight. People were screaming in pain all around," the Associated Press quoted a local journalist, Shymolendu Pal, as saying. One of the suspected bombers is dead and the other is among the injured police say. The wounded have been rushed to nearby hospitals and the condition of some of those injured is said to be serious.

Last month, a powerful bomb exploded inside a library near a courthouse in Gazipur, leaving seven people dead and about 50 others injured - police described it as the country's first ever suicide bombing. In a second attack on the same day, three people, including an alleged bomber, were killed when a series of bombs went off outside a courthouse in the port city of Chittagong. The government blamed a banned militant group, Jamaat-ul-Mujahideen, for the explosions and a series of earlier attacks.

More than 400 people have been arrested but the BBC's Roland Buerk in Dhaka says the masterminds remain at large. The Jamaat-ul-Mujahideen wants to establish Islamic law in Bangladesh.
Posted by: Steve || 12/08/2005 09:03 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Bangla police swoop up JMB cadres
Police have arrested some suspected JMB cadres throughout the country. They were arrested from Chittagong, Khulna, Tangail, Barisal and Madaripur districts. Tangail sadar and Dhanbari policemen arrested three suspected JMB cadres including an Imam of a mosque by conducting two separate raids in the district. Dhanbari police arrested Moulana Mohammad Rajab Ali Dewan, 50, the Imam of College Para Jam-e-Mosque of Bailtala village under Delduar upazila.

In another block raid, Tangail sadar police arrested Gachh Mia, 24, son of Aziz Bepari and Uzzal Mia, 25, son of Alam Mia from Par-dighulia under municipal area. The arrested persons were being interrogated in police custody.

Khulna police arrested a doctor for JMB connection. He was identified as Liakat Bin Abdullah, 48, who is a senior medical officer of the Mongla Port Authorities in Khulna. Two suspected activists of the JMB were arrested from Gafargaon Upazila in Mymensingh district. Police with the help of locals arrested Mofizur Rahman Santa, 24 and Shabuj, 18, from near the Rupantar Cinema Hall of Gafargaon town.

Mirsarai police arrested Niamatullah, a suspected JMB cadre from Karerhat area. He is the son of Abdul Kuddus of Dakkhin Chandia under Feni district. Our Barisal correspondent adds: police arrested Shahin Alam, 16, from Gabtoli Launch ghat under Mehendiganj upazila. Madaripur correspondent reports, police arrested a youth Shahidul Islam from the court premises. He hails from village Fultola under Rajoir upazila.
Posted by: Steve White || 12/08/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


JMB threatens to blow up lots o' stuff
Members of the outlaw Jamaatul Mujahideen Bangladesh (JMB) continued to threaten to blow up different establishments like courts, parks, district administration buildings, district level press club, educational institutions including life threats to political leaders, Judges, DC, SP, journalists and high officials.
"Aaarrrr! Youse guys are gonna git it!"
"You got it, we'll blow it up!"
The extremist members of the JMB issued death threats to the Deputy Commissioner and the Police Super of Chapainababganj. The threat came in a letter sent to the DC by post and DC Nurul Islam acknowledged receiving the letter, sources said. "Get ready with shroud and take good food as you like. Bombs will be thrown your building and the SP will also be blown up", the letter issued in the name of JMB brotherhood said.
"Legume! Round up all the left-handed semi-literate men with turbans and bombs in Chapainababganj upazila!!"
"Yes, Inspector!"
In Sirajganj, Khorshed Alam and Monira Begum, two first class Magistrates of Sirajganj Criminal Court received death threats on Tuesday.
"What's this?"
"Another death threat, Khorshed!"
"Put it with the others!"
The terrorists asked the magistrates over phone to perform trials under Islamic law instead of existing laws, otherwise, they would be killed in bomb attacks. Safety measures have been strengthened in the court premises following the death threat.
"They'd better be Islamic safety measures, or we'll kill you all!"
"And yer little dogs, too!"
Chittagong police recovered three bombs in separate places—Chittagong Government College—Jorarganj Bazar and Mirsarai super market. Meanwhile, city’s Sabujbagh police recovered a live bomb from Wahab Colony in Bashabo.
I think Wahab Colony would be the first place I'd start looking for bombs, too...
After seeing the bomb wrapped with red tape at Wahab Colony local people informed Sabujbagh police. Having been informed of the matter the RAB came to the spot and recovered the bomb.
Now that the RAB is involved, I expect the Crossfire Gazette to be busy ...
Posted by: Steve White || 12/08/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!



/woofSNEEZEwoof

Posted by: Red Dog || 12/08/2005 6:04 Comments || Top||

#2  #1 GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
2. BANG
3. YIPE.
4. FLOP
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 12/08/2005 8:19 Comments || Top||

#3  Hello. This is the voicemail system for Sirajganj Criminal Court. Please listen closely, as our options have changed.
To place a death threat against a magistrate, please press 1.
To place a death threat against the Deputy Commissioner, please press 2.
To place a death threat against the Police Superintendent, please press 3.
To place a bomb threat, please press 4.
For requests that trials be conducted under Islamic laws, please press 5.
For all other requests, please stay on the line until we can trace your call. Calls will be traced in the order that they are received. Your call is very important to us...
Posted by: tu3031 || 12/08/2005 15:49 Comments || Top||

#4  #2

you missed, playing possum!

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
Posted by: Red Dog || 12/08/2005 17:01 Comments || Top||


Britain
Jailed Terror Suspect makes TV appeal for British hostage's life
A high-profile terror suspect has made a television appeal from prison in England for the release of a British hostage being held in Iraq. Abu Qatada was allowed to film his plea as part of an unprecedented effort to secure the lives of Norman Kember and three other Western peace activists. Officials admitted that it was a unique broadcast but, with the kidnappers threatening to kill their captives within the next few days, they were prepared to take the desperate measures. Their hope is that the intervention of such a prominent Islamic militant may succeed in persuading the kidnappers from the Swords of Truth group after efforts by more than 20 Muslim groups have so far failed. Last night the kidnappers extended the deadline for killing their hostages by 48 hours to Saturday night and released new footage of Mr Kember pleading for Britain to pull out troops from Iraq and for help to free him.
"Not enough desperation that time, Mr. Kember. Let's try it again!"
British diplomats are reported to have used more intermediaries than they did during the failed attempt to save Kenneth Bigley and Margaret Hassan. But few could have expected that ministers would turn to a man described by judges as “a truly dangerous individual”. Officials insist that they have offered no leniency to Abu Qatada in return for his role. They claim that it was he who approached prison staff with an offer to intervene. Both the Home and Foreign secretaries gave permission after first checking with diplomats in Baghdad that Abu Qatada’s plea would not jeopardise undercover efforts to save Mr Kember from Pinner, northwest London, two Canadians and an American. The Prime Minister was also informed.
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Posted by: Pappy || 12/08/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Abu's looking a lot leaner now he's on porridge. The Jordanians will no longer need to reinforce the scaffold when they hang him.
Posted by: Howard UK || 12/08/2005 6:54 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Cargo train boomed in Dagestan
A goods train went off the rails in the southern Russian region of Dagestan near rebel Chechnya after an unknown device exploded in one the carriages, Interfax news agency reported. The agency said no-one was hurt in the Thursday morning explosion. Rescuers have been working at the site of the explosion.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 12/08/2005 02:38 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Europe
'ETA housekeeper' is finally snared in France
PARIS — French and Spanish police have arrested a key member of the Basque terrorist organisation ETA. In a joint operation, anti-terrorist officers detained Jon Koldobika Garmendia Martínez, alias 'Txuria', in the town of Cibourne in the French Basque region. He is accused of renting a flat in 2004 to house various members of ETA's so-called 'Comando Amaiur'. They were Haimar Altuna, Maite Aranalde and Iker Olabarrieta. Other members of the same cell were arrested in San Sebastián in March this year. They were Iker Olabarrieta, Igor González and Carmelo Lauzirika. Since that operation 33-yar-old Garmendia has been on the run in France. In August 1998, he was condemned to six months in jail for refusing to do military service.
Posted by: Steve || 12/08/2005 11:36 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Albania seizes assets of bin Laden associate
The Albanian government has seized the assets and bank accounts of a man who allegedly worked with Osama bin Laden and others to provide support to terror networks in Albania, the Finance Ministry said Wednesday. Abdul Latif Saleh, who holds Jordanian and Albanian citizenship, was placed on a U.N. sanctions list in September, requiring all U.N. members to impose a travel ban on him and block his assets. Albania earlier had blocked 33 bank accounts in three commercial banks as well as assets and investments in Saleh's businesses and civic organizations he was involved with. Saleh used six different names, said spokeswoman Eva Simoni. She said she did not know how much money was in the accounts.

The Finance Minister's order also required people to report any link to Saleh or his businesses and prohibited them from doing business with him. The U.S. Treasury Department alleges that bin Laden provided Saleh with funds to encourage the creation of extremist groups in Albania, where he is believed to be closely associated with groups linked to the Egyptian Islamic Jihad, a group connected to al-Qaida. It said Saleh founded an Albanian jihadist group that has been bankrolled by the Al Haramain Foundation, an Islamic charity with alleged links to al-Qaida.

Saleh is believed to be associated with Yasin al Qadi, a Saudi businessman that the U.S. accused of being a terrorist in October 2001. The department said Qadi was an active fund-raiser for Saleh's jihadist group. Saleh is also being investigated for alleged money-laundering for al-Qaida. He left Albania more than three years ago. Earlier this year, Albanian authorities seized property and froze the assets of four foundations and a married couple accused by the United Nations of funding terrorist activities.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 12/08/2005 02:45 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Great White North
3 Canadian soldiers wounded in Afghanistan
Three members of Canada's elite commando unit have been injured in Afghanistan. One Joint Task Force 2 soldier is being treated in hospital, while two others have been treated and released, the Defence Department said on Wednesday. None of the injured has been identified.

It's believed the Canadians were taking part in two operations with Afghan and U.S.-led coalition forces in early December. American military reports said 22 militants were killed in the attacks.
Posted by: Pappy || 12/08/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1 
Posted by: .com || 12/08/2005 0:21 Comments || Top||

#2  Don't go an piss them off, eh.
Posted by: Mahou Sensei Negi-bozu || 12/08/2005 2:16 Comments || Top||

#3  BLT's are worth defending.

/i have've earned several pancetta hearts at my house, Kitchen Kombat can be brutal.
Posted by: Red Dog || 12/08/2005 3:50 Comments || Top||


Tens of Thousands of phony Canadian drivers licenses issued
EFL. A real security risk here.
Ontario's drivers' licensing system is rife with crime as rogue employees steal plates and permits and issue phony licencesthe provincial auditor general has found.

In his annual report to the Legislature, Auditor General Jim McCarter slammed the Liberals because some transportation ministry staff and private contractors allowed 56,000 documents and licence plates to be stolen and lost. "We noted instances where staff had criminal records yet no action was taken, and in 25 per cent of the new-hire files we reviewed, the required criminal check had not been done," McCarter said in his 406-page report released yesterday.

McCarter and his auditors also exposed problems at the Ontario Provincial Police, including officers crashing cruisers at an alarming rate, and outlined concerns about an air and land ambulance system that is costing more and delivering less.

Blaming government sloppiness for the problems, McCarter emphasized the offences were grave this year, the first full year of the Liberals' mandate that his office has probed. The most sensational revelations dealt with a drivers' licensing system plagued with what appears to be organized criminal activity despite supposed heightened security in the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks in the United States.
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Posted by: too true || 12/08/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  warned that organized crime might have infiltrated the transportation ministry

Organized crime may also have infiltrated Citizenship & Immigration Canada because only until recently, Canadian passports were not considered proof of Canadian citizenship in Canada. Meaning, the Canadian government itself did not accept Canadian passports as proof of Canadian citizenship. For example, on an application for a passport renewal, your old, expired passport was unacceptable, but a driver's licence was okay! (backed up by other documents such as birth certificates, of course, which we know are so difficult to forge).

Oh...and, you know that all we need to enter the US is a DL.
Posted by: Rafael || 12/08/2005 0:40 Comments || Top||

#2  your old, expired passport was unacceptable

Hell, even your current, valid passport wasn't acceptable. Most people renew before the expiration, about 6 months prior.

But don't worry. On the application they now ask for TWO references, that is, two citizens that can vouch for you that you are indeed a Canadian citizen. No info on whether those two references have to have someone else vouch for them. I think it works on an honour system. My references have never been checked.
Posted by: Rafael || 12/08/2005 0:51 Comments || Top||

#3  I vouchsafe on Canadian Passport applications for friends and aquaintances frequently. But I am not allowed to charge for this service. No charge. Cash on the other hand....
Posted by: john || 12/08/2005 16:39 Comments || Top||

#4  They got cars in Canada?
Posted by: tu3031 || 12/08/2005 16:42 Comments || Top||

#5  Isn't the Liberal Party an organized crime syndicate? So everything the canucks do is run by organized crime.
Posted by: Thromoling Glineque2473 || 12/08/2005 17:26 Comments || Top||

#6  "Nor is there any way to authenticate drivers' licences from places such as China, India, Iran and Sri Lanka, meaning there are thousands of motorists who may be on Ontario roads without adequate training".

Guess I'm more concerned about the ones from Iran that have adequate training. If ya catch my drift Duddley.
Posted by: DepotGuy || 12/08/2005 17:49 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
McCain: US StillTorturing Terrorists
CA: do NOT put blockquotes into the title bar. That screws our formatting big-time. Please do not do that.
Sen. John McCain claimed Wednesday that the U.S. is still torturing terrorist detainees, even as Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice visits with European leaders to assure them that the practice is banned under U.S. law.

"We've got to stop this torture," McCain told radio host Don Imus. "If you torture somebody, they're going to tell you what they think you want to know in order to make the pain stop," he complained.
Pardon me, Senator, but do you have any proof that this is going on today? I realize it's delicate, I realize that you don't want to reveal classified information, but putting some proof on the table -- something other what comes out of the al-Q training manual -- would be helpful. Everyone's talking about it occurring, but no one's pointing to any current inmate and saying, "him! He got tortured! There are the burn marks, there's where the clips for the electrodes went! See? See!!??!!"
The Republican maverick said the U.S. can't win the propaganda war "if people believe throughout the world that you are practicing cruel, inhuman, degrading mistreatment or torture on the people that you capture."

"Right now," McCain complained, "we have prisons, apparently, set up in different places in the world where we're keeping people for years."

His comments come as Dr. Rice meets with European leaders to assure them that claims about ongoing torture are baseless. "The United States does not condone torture," she told a German audience on Tuesday. "It is against U.S. law to be involved in torture or conspiracy to commit torture. And it is also against U.S. international obligations and the President has made it very clear that U.S. personnel will operate within U.S. law and within our international obligations."

Rice also indicated, however, that interrogations conducted in the foreign prisons referenced by McCain have been productive, telling reporters, "The intelligence we gathered has helped to stop terrorist attacks and saved innocent lives in Europe - as well as in the United States and other countries."
Posted by: Captain America || 12/08/2005 16:10 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "If you torture somebody, they're going to tell you what they think you want to know in order to make the pain stop," he complained.

How about you make MY PAIN STOP Senator? Just sit down and shut up, you ain't in charge and hopefully never WILL BE!
Posted by: Besoeker || 12/08/2005 16:17 Comments || Top||

#2  "We've got to stop this torture," McCain told radio host Don Imus.

and yes, Two dimwits stuck on stupid are is was will always be TORTURE.
Posted by: Red Dog || 12/08/2005 16:28 Comments || Top||

#3  "If you torture somebody, they're going to tell you what they think you want to know in order to make the pain stop," he complained.

I wonder how McCain figured that out...
Posted by: Edward Yee || 12/08/2005 16:40 Comments || Top||

#4  He's a nut. Bet he blows up bigger than Deano Bachi.
Posted by: Shipman || 12/08/2005 16:45 Comments || Top||

#5  If you wanna stop torture, Senator, do me a favor and tell Don Anus to hang it up.
Posted by: tu3031 || 12/08/2005 16:46 Comments || Top||

#6  Article: "If you torture somebody, they're going to tell you what they think you want to know in order to make the pain stop," he complained.

Actually, confessions are checkable. This is why a confession alone will not get someone convicted in court. Torture doesn't mean we suspend our normal investigative procedures whereby things are checked and cross-checked for consistency. And some things can't really be the subject of a false confession. An arms cache is either there or it isn't. An IED is either there or it isn't. If the guy provides a false series of confessions, it will rapidly become clear that he probably doesn't have any more information to give. This doesn't mean he is innocent. These guys were either captured weapons in hand or have incriminating materials on hand.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 12/08/2005 16:47 Comments || Top||

#7  Victims of crimes are not allowed on Juries of such crimes courts. Mccain was tortured and therefore has no buisness making judgements on torture he is uncontrolably biased an cannot make a reasoned decision.

Torture is a nessacary evil I believe in Geneva Conventions but only if the other side honors them aswell. Torture does work and yes the enemy does of course tell you lies and what you want to hear at first same thing with regular interogation that is the whole idea of a trained Interrogator and comparing notes you take all the info provided and decide what is real and not confirm this and that confront inconsistancy ect.... its part of the process with or without torture Mccain knows this but pushes the half truth to support his biased view from victimhood.
Posted by: C-Low || 12/08/2005 16:48 Comments || Top||

#8  If anything ever convinces me that we need to ban torture it will be John McCain's endless grandstanding. Every time he opens his mouth it's a crime against humanity.
Posted by: Iblis || 12/08/2005 17:14 Comments || Top||

#9  Torture? I have not heard of dozens and dozens of perps falling out of choppers to feed sharks... What is he talking about?
Oh wait, wrong country. That was some nations way way south of the Rio Grande ... sorry...
Posted by: 3dc || 12/08/2005 17:20 Comments || Top||

#10  I've a theory that McCain will nevery seriously run for president because it would interfere with his ressurektion.
Posted by: Shipman || 12/08/2005 17:29 Comments || Top||

#11  It will have to snow 2' deep on Graceland before I would ever vote for the misguided photo-op junkie McCain.
Posted by: Evil Elvis || 12/08/2005 17:29 Comments || Top||

#12  Does he have any proof? Or is he just jerking off for the cameras again?

Besides the terrorists do not deserve Geneva Convention protections! In fact unless we strictly deny them the protections (i.e. by executing them as illegal combatants in the field - and then telling EVERYONE about it and WHY!) there is on incentive for anyone else to follow the GC with our soldiers.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 12/08/2005 18:25 Comments || Top||

#13  Does he have any proof? Or is he just jerking off for the cameras again?

Senators know everything....just ask them
Posted by: Frank G || 12/08/2005 19:23 Comments || Top||

#14  Thanks for the big help, Senator. This will be remembered come primary time.
Posted by: eLarson || 12/08/2005 19:32 Comments || Top||

#15  McCain's just being a media whore. What is the point of beating this (non)issue into the ground, otherwise?
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 12/08/2005 19:48 Comments || Top||

#16  Man needs to shutup and go away
Posted by: djohn66 || 12/08/2005 20:41 Comments || Top||


Shoe Bomber Alert Preceded Airport Shooting
Dec. 7, 2005 — Federal law enforcement sources tell ABC News they had been on the alert for a possible shoe bomber when a federal air marshal opened fire at the Miami International Airport today.
No wonder they were awake so alert
In today's incident, an agitated passenger claiming to have a bomb in his backpack was shot and killed by a federal air marshal, officials said. No bomb was found.

Officials say a 50-year-old Egyptian man was stopped six days ago at New York's John F. Kennedy Airport. Sources say he had a suspicious pair of shoes that tested positive five times for the explosive substance TATP on the interior of his shoes between the heel and sole. Federal officials say the man's shoes are remarkably similar to those used by shoe bomber Richard Reid, who attempted to blow up an American Airlines jet over the Atlantic four years ago.

The Egyptian man's destination was Des Moines, Iowa, sources say, and he claimed he was a student at Iowa State University in Ames. Strangely, after holding him overnight, airport security in New York released him. The FBI was notified after he was released. Now the FBI has put out a nationwide alert.
Did they give back his shoes, or are we looking for a barefoot Egyptian? Morons
Posted by: Steve || 12/08/2005 09:23 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


How the CIA Blew Its Prisons Cover
If true, there are a number of CIA employees who should be taking forced early retirement.
WASHINGTON - While Secretary of State Rice fends off questioning in Europe over CIA-run air flights of prisoners in the war on terror, some analysts outside the CIA are asking how the flights were exposed so easily. The CIA's legendary capacity for stealth, celebrated in so many cloak-and-dagger books and films, seems to have been all but absent as hooded prisoners were zipped from one airport to another by agency airplanes, a journalist who helped prepare one of the first detailed reports on the air transfer program said. "I would say they didn't give a damn," Fredrik Laurin, a producer with a Swedish television show, "Kalla Fakta," or "Cold Facts," said when asked what priority the agency gave to keeping the air operation secret. "If I was an American taxpayer, I would be upset," Mr. Laurin said in a telephone interview from Sweden yesterday.
I certainly am.
In May 2004, the Swedish show reported on the CIA's involvement with the expulsion of two men from Sweden to Egypt in December 2001. The tail number of an aircraft involved in the transfer led quickly to information about at least six other occasions on which the same small Gulfstream V jet was used to move prisoners from various locations to countries such as Egypt, Jordan, and Syria. "Once we had the identity of the plane, which we were able to find out in many ways - a plane leaves a lot of traces - it was obvious the plane was fishy," Mr. Laurin said.

When a producer working on the broadcast called one of the American firms involved in leasing the plane, the call was returned 15 minutes later by the Swedish intelligence service, which said it was calling at the request of its "U.S. cooperation partners."
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Posted by: Steve White || 12/08/2005 09:13 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  When a producer working on the broadcast called one of the American firms involved in leasing the plane, the call was returned 15 minutes later by the Swedish intelligence service, which said it was calling at the request of its "U.S. cooperation partners."

This is always a bad sign.
Posted by: Besoeker || 12/08/2005 9:26 Comments || Top||

#2  These guys are trying to cover for their sources inside the CIA. Their approach appears to be to try to show that they could have arrived at their material independently of any leakers. The reality is that the CIA leaks like a sieve when Republicans are in power. (A former spy noted that most CIA operatives are liberal, decades ago - it appears that this is still the case). And it's not Republicans - for the most part - who are doing the leaking, unless it's guys who are nominally Republican, but haven't voted for a Republican in a while.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 12/08/2005 9:34 Comments || Top||

#3  The old "Southern Air" Caribou didn't have any pesky tail numbers. I remember seeing it alot when I worked at a nursery near MIA. Always thought there goes the CIA flight. A course years later the sandies shot it down on a supply mission to the contas.
Posted by: bruce || 12/08/2005 10:05 Comments || Top||

#4  The next time the Swedes or any other Euro wants to expel one of their islamic infestations, the US gov should tell them we are busy washing our hair repainting tail numbers. Problem solved (for the US anyway).

The next item of business is to open a plane painting operation in Nome Alaska and transfer the majority of the CIA there for some hands on work. I nominate Alaska Paul to supervise.
Posted by: ed || 12/08/2005 10:07 Comments || Top||

#5  Zhang, I don't think yesterday's WaPo article that the detention facilities moved to North Africa was deduced by inspecting tail numbers. Off to Alaska with 'em.
Posted by: ed || 12/08/2005 10:14 Comments || Top||

#6  One blog I read frequently is Howard Veit's Oraculations. I like his commentary and he's not shy about stating exactly what's on his mind. He had an interesting post that relates to this story:

The Party of Parasites is Angry
Posted by: Seafarious || 12/08/2005 10:37 Comments || Top||

#7  the Swedish show reported on the CIA's involvement with the expulsion of two men from Sweden to Egypt in December 2001. The tail number of an aircraft involved in the transfer led quickly to information


That right thier is the problem how did they get that original info. A leak dont come written and pre prepared all set it puts a journalist on the trail just like this. The leakers should be rounded up arrested imprisoned and gaged, tried for Sedition or Treason. This is a Swedish reporter so I dont think we could scoop him up and hold until he gives up the source but we could maybe sanction the Sweedes until they give the info or turned over the guy to get the leak name.

The incompetence of the CIA however is pitifull I mean how many private airline companies are thier in the US why couldnt the CIA just paint the tail number of one they know are sitting on this or that runnway in the states and randomly change numbers. If someone called on the plane the company would say thier plane is in Houston by the time the discrepency was figured out the plane would have a new number and out of country. Confusion is a great weapon.
Posted by: C-Low || 12/08/2005 11:58 Comments || Top||

#8  Its sad when you start to think the war effort might go better without the CIA. You never hear about leaks from the NSA or Naval Intelligence.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 12/08/2005 12:34 Comments || Top||

#9  The leaks don't come from peons, either - it's always the Big Boys that spew their guts to the press at every opportunity. Porter Goss needs to bring in a squad of Marines and clean Langley out from top to bottom - in that order.

As for "forced early retirement", anyone caught leaking classified information should be shown the door with NO compensation and a sore a$$.

Planespotting in England is a hobby enjoyed by several thousand people. When I was there in 86-87, we discovered that a couple of "planespotters" near RAF Molesworth were in fact Soviet agents. The US began changing tail numbers on any plane flying into or out of Molesworth, including the SR-71's that operated out of there. The Soviets were upset that we'd "mis-stated" the number of SR-71s at Molesworth, because they knew for certain there were 12, not the two the US acknowledged, and indeed, had, there. We also "increased" our inventory of C-5, C-141, and C-130 aircraft by "several dozens".

The CIA is both sloppy and stupid. That can get a lot of people killed in the world we live in today.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 12/08/2005 13:41 Comments || Top||

#10  motherfucking bastards
Posted by: Grolung Flereger3604 || 12/08/2005 15:12 Comments || Top||

#11  "The CIA is both sloppy and stupid. That can get a lot of people killed in the world we live in today."

They do not care. I suspect they see this aspect as a feature and not a bug. After all, it serves to discourage those people that would otherwise be willing to help us from an Intelligence basis, and undermines our ability to defend ourselves

Makes sense really, when you accept that what they want is to destroy the administration and the country.

Posted by: Doitnow || 12/08/2005 16:20 Comments || Top||

#12  Digital Tail Numbers Now!
Posted by: Shipman || 12/08/2005 16:47 Comments || Top||

#13  Cause to effect. The leaks may be the effect of housecleaning, not the cause. We do not see the housecleaning itself because much is handled internally without public knowledge. But it is clear that someone very knowlegeable with transportation and logistics just got transferred from Langley to Nome and has let a few reporters know what and where to look.

Posted by: john || 12/08/2005 16:56 Comments || Top||

#14  Sometimes I worry about you John.
Posted by: Shipman || 12/08/2005 17:31 Comments || Top||

#15  works for me
Posted by: Frank G || 12/08/2005 20:16 Comments || Top||

#16  John---Saw that guy crying in his beer at the Board of Trade Saloon in Nome on Monday. He is running out of time on his phone card, though, and the local paper already tagged him as a disgruntled fruitcake.

This CIA prisons thing is just another installment in the MSM's trying to destroy the President and the war effort.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 12/08/2005 21:04 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Kidnapped Pak journalist photographed Rabia missile
Lesson to photographers - do not cause offence to Perv

A Pakistani journalist has been kidnapped after photographing the metal remnants of what appeared to be a US missile that killed a senior al-Qaida leader last week, his family said on Wednesday.

Only a day before his disappearance on Monday, Hayatullah Khan expressed fears that intelligence agencies might take action against him for sending his pictures to Pakistani and international media organisations, said the journalist’s elder brother, Ihsanullah Khan.

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Five masked men armed with AK-47 assault rifles abducted Hayatullah Khan in the town of Mir Ali, about 18 miles north of Miranshah, administrative capital of the North Waziristan tribal area on the border with Afghanistan, witnesses said.

The al-Qaeda operative, whom Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf identified as Abu Hamza Rabia, was killed on December 1 when an explosion destroyed a house in Haisori village, east of Miranshah. Rabia was believed to be al-Qaeda’s international operations commander.

Musharraf said the blast occurred when Rabia was making bombs from explosives stored in the house. Pakistani authorities insisted the compound had not been attacked.

But residents of Asoray claimed that the explosion was caused by a missile fired from a US unmanned aerial vehicle.

They said that metal pieces of the missile, photos of which Khan filed to the European Pressphoto Agency, were inscribed with the English words “guided missile”.

In Khan’s pictures, the fragments are also marked “AGM-114”, the US military’s designator for the laser-guided Hellfire missile, which is carried on the remote-controlled Predator aircraft. The initials “US” also appeared on the shrapnel in photos filed by Khan, who also works for Pakistan’s Urdu-language daily newspaper Ausaf and the English-language daily The Nation.

US counterterrorism operations in Pakistan are a sensitive political issue for Musharraf, who is under pressure from Islamic groups and nationalists who feel he has gone too far in supporting the US.

The Pakistani military’s powerful Inter-Services Intelligence agency is frequently accused of harassing journalists and detaining Pakistanis without charge. But senior government officials in Peshawar denied that intelligence agencies were involved.

“We understand the situation in the tribal territory is not very favorable for journalists, but it doesn’t mean that any secret agency is involved in his abduction,” said Shah Zaman Khan, spokesman for the governor of North West Frontier Province.

One of the journalist's friends said Hayatullah Khan had been arrested by US and allied Afghan National Army a year and a half ago near the Pakistan-Afghanistan border and interrogated for two months. The man, who spoke on condition he not be named, said he negotiated a deal with Afghan authorities for Khan’s release.
Posted by: john || 12/08/2005 18:16 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  You'd think that the CIA would take the trouble to not use missiles with "Made in the USA" written all over them.

But, I suppose the chuckleheads they have running operations don't have a care in the world about such things. All they're capable of is tapping phone calls.
Posted by: gromky || 12/08/2005 18:59 Comments || Top||

#2  bummer....forgot that some might not enjoy his "art"?
Posted by: Frank G || 12/08/2005 19:21 Comments || Top||

#3  '“AGM-114”, the US military’s designator for the laser-guided Hellfire missile'......
How do these things work? Is there somebody on the ground pointing a laser at the house for the missile to home in on?
Posted by: Glenmore || 12/08/2005 20:04 Comments || Top||

#4  The Predator drone carries its own laser designator.
Posted by: gromky || 12/08/2005 20:11 Comments || Top||


'Terrorist Camps' Detected In Baluchistan
Karachi, 8 Dec. (AKI/DAWN) - The government of Pakistan has detected five to six camps in the south-eastern province of Baluchistan, where people are being trained to carry out terrorist activities. The presence of the camps, known as Ferari camps, was discussed at an inter-provincial conference on law and order, during a discussion on the situation in Baluchistan. Five suspected terrorists from the militant group the Baluchistan Liberation Army (BLA) were also arrested on Wednesday in Lahore.

According to sources, it was revealed at the inter-provincial conference on law that the camps were operating under the supervision of some tribal sardars or tribal heads and that terrorists were also being paid money to carry out "assignments". Tribal groups in Baluchistan have been fighting with security forces, demanding more political autonomy and a greater share of the area's resources. At the conference on Wednesday, it was also revealed that the camps were located in the Sibi, Bolan, Shoran and Tilli areas of Baluchistan. The sources said that the conference discussed different steps to rein in outlaws and stop them from escaping from one province to another after committing crimes. During the past year, 261 bomb blasts have occurred in Baluchistan and 167 rockets were fired.

However, the conference was told that the federal government had no intention of launching any operation in the province and only a few measures were being taken to protect gas pipelines, government installations and assets. The need for early implementation of a decision to set up a joint border force was stressed. According to the decision, three police stations and 25 police posts would be set up at the junctions of Sindh, Baluchistan and Punjab provinces. These posts and police stations would be manned by 1,300 men of the joint border force to be recruited in Sindh, while in Punjab 2,500 will be recruited by January 31. The conference directed Sindh and Baluchistan authorities to take immediate steps to set up the posts and police stations and recruit personnel. The conference also directed the provinces to take measures for the protection of judges of tribunals trying terrorist cases and witnesses.

One of the militant groups that has emerged in the area is the Baluchistan Liberation Army (BLA). On Wednesday, police in Lahore also claimed to have arrested five suspected terrorists belonging to the BLA for carrying out bomb blasts in Punjab and Karachi. At the conference, Lahore investigation police chief Chaudhry Shafqaat Ahmad said clues from twin bomb blasts in the city on September 22 led police to the suspects. Nine people were killed and 37 others were injured in the explosions.

The police official said the accused had confessed to having carried out seven other blasts, including attacks on gas pipelines and other installations in Punjab. The police chief said the BLA had resorted to terrorist activities to register its protest against the larger provinces. “They believe that the larger provinces and the central government have been usurping the rights of the Baluch and Baluchistan,” he said.

He said 80 kilograms of explosives, electric detonators, timers, remote controls, safety fuses and gas and chemicals used in making bombs had been seized from the arrested men.
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Several killed in Pakistan blast
At least 12 people have been killed and 30 injured in a bomb explosion in Pakistan's troubled tribal area bordering Afghanistan, officials say. The blast ripped through a hotel and shops in a market in Jandola town in South Waziristan.

There were two explosions in Jandola town on Thursday. The first one was the hotel bomb that left 12 dead, officials say. It is not clear who planted the device. The hotel is next to the headquarters of the local paramilitary force. Ninety minutes later there was a second explosion in the same market area of the town. Officials say this blast was caused by fire in an arms and ammunition shop, local officials say.

Four paramilitary soldiers and a journalist have gone missing in South Waziristan in recent days. The bodies of two of the soldiers have now been found. One report said they had been beheaded, another that their throats had been cut.
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North Waziristan tense after clashes
"I'm so tense!"
"Again, Mahmoud!"
"Yes, Ahmed! I'm tense!"
"Okay. Let me pull the curtains first."
The situation remains tense after two days of clashes between suspected militants and bandits in Pakistan, which have left at least 15 people dead. Suspected militants and bandits have fought in Pakistan's tribal area of North Waziristan, eyewitnesses say.
What's the difference between a militant and a bandit in Pakistan?
I think the militants favor black turbans.
Journalists and many other people have evacuated the area around the town of Miranshah where the fighting took place.
"Taxi!"
One journalist and four soldiers are missing and presumed kidnapped. The bloodshed is some of the worst in recent months, even for this troubled region.
That bad, huh?
The fighting started on Tuesday near the town of Miranshah in North Waziristan. Reports say students from Islamic schools clashed with bandits extorting money at a checkpoint.
These students are called "talibs."
Then the students set fire to the gangsters' homes backed by local tribesmen sympathetic to the Taleban. They hung the bodies of at least three of their rivals on electricity polls.
Shucks. Just like back home in Afghanland in the good old days...
So maybe shop class wasn't a good idea for these 'students'.
Residents said the fighting was so fierce the authorities did not intervene.
"Chief! The talibs are hanging the road agents and highway men!"
"Dang. That's awful... Say! Does Mustapha's still have take-out?"
"Mmmm! Chapatis!"
"I'll buy if you fly!"
A local reporter told the BBC that Islamic militants are roaming freely in Miranshah with their guns. He said most journalists had left the area after one of their colleagues in North Waziristan disappeared, presumably kidnapped. And there's still no word about four Pakistani soldiers who also went missing a few days ago in neighbouring South Waziristan. Observers say the fighting this week reminds them of action against criminals in Afghanistan once taken by the Taleban.
Does it really, now? I wonder if that could be because it's the same people?
Posted by: Dan Darling || 12/08/2005 02:26 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  hope its true..go get em a$$holes, kill the hell out of each other.
Posted by: Red Dog || 12/08/2005 3:56 Comments || Top||

#2  Do the bandits know about the rewards for capture or death of certain Taliban and Al Qeda figures? Drop leaflets now.
Posted by: plainslow || 12/08/2005 10:53 Comments || Top||

#3  LOL! Fred man!
Posted by: Shipman || 12/08/2005 17:26 Comments || Top||


International-UN-NGOs
Kofi: Bolton Won't Intimidate Me (into making reforms)
United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan said through his spokesman that the world body's leading human rights advocate won't be ``intimidated'' by criticism yesterday from U.S. Ambassador John Bolton, and that he wants to discuss the matter with the envoy as soon as possible.

UN spokesman Stephane Dujarric told reporters that Annan is seeking a meeting with Bolton to defend High Commissioner for Human Rights Louise Arbour's statements that the U.S.-led war on terrorism has eroded efforts to eliminate torture. Bolton called Arbour's remarks ``illegitimate and inappropriate,'' coming from an ``international civil servant with nothing more as evidence than what she reads in the newspapers.''

Without specifically naming the U.S., the former Canadian Supreme Court justice said any government that transfers suspected terrorists to nations where they face the risk of torture, or operates secret prisons, is violating international law. Arbour said she based her concern on news accounts during the past month.

The Washington Post reported Nov. 2 that the U.S. was running a clandestine operation to detain and interrogate al- Qaeda suspects overseas, including in secret Eastern European jails, according to unidentified U.S. and foreign officials.

`Political Accusations'

``The secretary-general has absolutely no disagreement with statements made by the high commissioner,''' Dujarric told reporters at the UN. ``The secretary-general is confident that she will carry on her work without being impressed or intimidated by what transpired yesterday.''

Arbour ``has a perfect right to inquire,'' Richard Grenell, spokesman for U.S. mission to the UN, said. ``Our concern is that she didn't inquire with the U.S. She never called for an appointment, never asked for information. She jumped at a chance to make some political accusations in front of the media.''

The exchange came as U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice continued to defend U.S. policies and practices on a trip to Europe. She has been hounded from the start by questions on U.S. treatment of terrorism detainees following news reports of CIA flights through Europe carrying suspected terrorists to secret prisons in Europe or to countries where they might be tortured.

Tensions

The U.S. has acknowledged the flights, though not the existence of the prisons, and Rice has insisted the U.S. won't permit or condone torture at home or abroad. Rice said she could not guarantee abuses would not occur in the future. If they do, people would be punished, she told reporters.

This isn't the first indication of tensions between Bolton and Annan in recent weeks.

After Bolton said he recommended that Annan postpone a planned trip to Asia to participate in negotiations on the proposed UN budget, the secretary-general told reporters on Dec. 2 that the U.S. envoy ``doesn't run my program.'' Annan postponed the trip.

Asked on Nov. 30 for a comment on Bolton's criticism of the UN General Assembly's adoption of six resolutions drafted by the Palestinian Authority that are critical of Israel, Annan said ``I'm not the interpreter of Ambassador Bolton.''

The U.S. mission to the UN didn't immediately return a phone call asking for comment on Annan's defense of Arbour.
Posted by: Captain America || 12/08/2005 20:42 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Well then Secretary Annan, maybe you won't be "intimiated" when the President of the United States closes that cesspool down kicks the UN and your sorry ass out of the this country lock, stock, and barrel. Three cheers for Ambassador Bolton!
Posted by: Besoeker || 12/08/2005 20:57 Comments || Top||

#2  The "world body's leading human rights advocate"?!?!?! On what planet?
Posted by: Secret Master || 12/08/2005 21:04 Comments || Top||

#3  Kofi haven't quite grasped the fact that UN is not World goverment.
Posted by: gromgoru || 12/08/2005 21:16 Comments || Top||

#4  Well then Secretary Annan, maybe you won't be "intimiated" when the President of the United States closes that cesspool down kicks the UN and your sorry ass out of the this country lock, stock, and barrel.

Don't count on it. Too many in the U.S. government still have a fetish for that worthless organization.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 12/08/2005 21:22 Comments || Top||

#5  It's long past time to flush the entire UN mess down the toilet. They do nothing worthwhile, cause the US a tremendous amount of trouble, and charge Americans a great deal of money for the privilege. US out of the UN and UN out of the US. And do it NOW!
Posted by: mac || 12/08/2005 21:27 Comments || Top||

#6  Can't shut down the UN without first creating an alternative. We should have direct lines of communication with china and russia to handle crisis. The new world body should be made up only of democracies that have had at least 2 peaceful transitions of power (democratically elected gov'ts).
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American || 12/08/2005 21:47 Comments || Top||

#7  50% cut in payments speaks for me
Posted by: Frank G || 12/08/2005 22:09 Comments || Top||


Iraq
Iraq Insurgents Claim to Kill U.S. Hostage
An Iraqi insurgent group said Thursday in an Internet posting that it killed a U.S. security consultant it had taken hostage. The claim's authenticity could not be immediately verified. The Islamic Army in Iraq said it had killed "the American security consultant for the Housing Ministry," after the United States failed to respond to its demand of the release of Iraqi prisoners.

A video issued by the group was aired Tuesday on the Arab television station Al-Jazeera showing the hostage — identified as Ronald Schulz, 40, an industrial electrician from Alaska — sitting with his hands tied behind his back. Thursday's statement, posted on an Islamic militant Web forum, did not identify the hostage and provided no evidence he had been killed, but said pictures of the slaying would be released later. Schulz graduated from Jamestown, N.D., High School in 1983, then joined the Marines. His brother, Ed, said he served in the Marine Corps from 1984 to 1991 and after his discharge, moved to the Anchorage, Alaska, suburb of Eagle River.
Posted by: Steve || 12/08/2005 12:52 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Eagle River? Know him, AP?
Posted by: Frank G || 12/08/2005 13:15 Comments || Top||

#2  So I guess this proves why we should treat these "minute men" accordinly to the Geneva Conventions like a national military right? Very pissed off sarcism!

I wonder if the media will hammer the public with this story of what kind of enemy we are fighting over and over front page like the Abu Grahib pictures. Right.....its only bad when the big satan does it.
Posted by: C-Low || 12/08/2005 13:24 Comments || Top||

#3  I'm confused, is killing torture or just a negotiation tactic? McCain won't answer my calls anymore so could someone ask him?
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 12/08/2005 16:32 Comments || Top||

#4  Killed the hostage? Didn't see that coming...
Posted by: Iblis || 12/08/2005 17:16 Comments || Top||


Iraq defendant gripes about cigarettes, food
Manolo! My violin! Quickly!
A co-defendant in the trial of Saddam Hussein complained on Wednesday about the quality of cigarettes the U.S. military gave him while in custody.
Carltons! No wonder we hate you people!
Barzan Ibrahim al-Tikriti, Saddam's former intelligence chief and one of his most feared sidekicks, also said the food was bad and he was not given blankets. He lost 18 kilos in just two months in captivity, he complained.
Oh. You're not on a hunger strike?
"We were detained by one of the wealthiest countries in the world, yet it was only after four months in detention that they gave me cigarettes," said Barzan, charged with crimes against humanity.
They can put a man on the moon but they can't get an accused mass murderer a pack of Marlboros?
"And then they were of the worst quality in the world."
Mmmmmmmm. Carltons.
Saddam and his co-defendants have frequently berated the Americans and their Iraqi allies over their treatment.
Don't worry. We'll make sure we use the highest quality rope for your noose.
The former president complained earlier in the trial about having a notepad confiscated and having to walk up several flights of stairs to the courtroom because of a broken elevator.
Awwwwww. No porn for Sammy.
Posted by: tu3031 || 12/08/2005 11:01 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Too bad he couldn't take a tumble on the way down those stairs...
Posted by: Pappy || 12/08/2005 11:17 Comments || Top||

#2  [pa system]

Paging: Miss Chiquita Banana please pick up the yellow courtesy phone.

/banana peel ops.
Posted by: Red Dog || 12/08/2005 11:27 Comments || Top||

#3  thinking about last requests here, possibly lace the cigarette with something very strong....
Posted by: Jan || 12/08/2005 12:00 Comments || Top||

#4  Give him a carton of Thai cigarettes, and make him smoke them all in a three-day period. He'll be hoarse for a month. That'll at least cut off his complaints.

These people deserve nothing but a 4x4x4 windowless cell, for about 70 years. Weld the door shut and feed them mush through a straw. Death's too good for them.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 12/08/2005 13:49 Comments || Top||

#5  Obviously torture.
Posted by: DoDo || 12/08/2005 13:52 Comments || Top||

#6  Wait till he finds out ol' Cousin Saddam got Doritos. He'll really lose it then!
Posted by: Desert Blondie || 12/08/2005 14:25 Comments || Top||

#7  SAddam and his henchmen are using a "softening" psychology on their guards/captors. They are simply trying to soften their captivity enough to hopefully creat some sort of opening for an escape. Far Fetched? The first day of the trial when they heard the of mortors dropping around the Green Zone, Saddam immediately started dropping information for those outside the walls, where he thinks there are still masses that support him.

Walking up 4 flights of stairs. Must mean the court room is on the second floor. Elevator broken, can mechanics from the outside who are on my side get in here somehow.

These guys are not just being pansies, they are working the system with all they've got to stay away from those gallows.
Posted by: RG || 12/08/2005 15:49 Comments || Top||

#8  Right on the money RG. If they break that monster and his gang out, all bets are off. We're in for a fu** of a time. The longer he breaths, the worse it will get.
Posted by: Besoeker || 12/08/2005 15:54 Comments || Top||

#9  This food is absolutely horrible, and such small portions too.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 12/08/2005 19:52 Comments || Top||

#10  Besoeker,

The tip off to me was, here these guys are in a trial where there is no doubt they are going to the gallows, very soon, and they are complaining about lots of little things that one who is about to be executed would never even be thinking about (cheap cigarettes, better food) so they are saying that stuff for two reasons, to soften up the environment and to hide remarks that could clue an outside force about their jail environment as I indicated a couple of comments above.

The judge needs to shut these guys mouths up in court.
Posted by: RG || 12/08/2005 23:08 Comments || Top||


Kurdish President Offers Refuge To Christians
Erbil, 8 Dec. (AKI) - The President of Iraqi Kurdistan, Massoud Barzani, says they will welcome all Christians seeking refuge from the critical security situation in other areas of Iraq who want to stay definitively or temporarily in the region. At a meeting of religious leaders and members of the Christian community in Kurdistan, Barzani said: "We welcome any Christian brothers who choose to come and live in Kurdistan, whether temporarily or more permanently. This is their country and we will not prevent any of them from taking refuge."
I'm liking the Kurds more and more
The gathering was part of a series of meetings organised in the run-up to the forthcoming parliamentary elections in the country on 15 December.

"You are the owners of this land, you are the protectors of its ancient history, therefore no one can prevent you from living here," the leader of the Kurdistan Democratic Party said, inviting Christians to "send letters to your relatives and your brothers in Baghdad, Basra or any other Iraqi city, or even abroad, to come and reside in Kurdistan, whether definitively or until the security conditions in the country improve." "I can assure you," he continued, "that we will not allow anyone to oppress you, you are free to accept this fraternal co-inhabitance and to help in the building of your country."
I wonder if the Kurds would be interested in ruling Eastern Arabia after it's been deinfested?

Barzani then went on to ask those present to turn out in force to vote in the upcoming elections, given "the decisive importance of this vote, as the next parliament will discuss more than 50 constitutional articles which must be turned into law. The greater our political weight and presence within the National Assembly, the more we will be able to contribute to the developing of these laws, which will guarantee our constitutional rights," he stressed.

About 3 percent of Iraq's population is Christian - with most belonging to the Assyrian or Chaldean Catholic denominations. Over the last year, there have been several bomb attacks on Christian churches and Christian businesses in northern Iraq and Baghdad. A dozen Christians have been killed in such attacks, prompting a number of people to flee Iraq and closed down their businesses as a result. During Saddam's secular regime they were free to worship. One of the regime's most prominent Christian members was deputy prime minister Tareq Aziz.
Posted by: Steve || 12/08/2005 10:19 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I wonder if this will turn out the way America's offer of refuge to the Jews in the 30's and 40's turned out - very, very well for the hosts. It's smart to seek out productive people with the gumption to take advantage of opportunity.

The Kurds seem to get it, I hope they get the chance to live out a bright future.
Posted by: Thinens Ebbonter8653 || 12/08/2005 11:36 Comments || Top||

#2  What, you mean the religion of piss doesn't like Christians? Muhamhead would be proud.

Good for the Kurds. They appear to be the only humans in the giant cat litter box muslime call home.
Posted by: Pagan Piggy Goddess allah || 12/08/2005 11:54 Comments || Top||

#3  I'd feel better if the Kurds would acknowledge their culpability for their role in the many massacres that occurred before WWII.

On some of these occasions, the Kurds aided the Turkish massacres of Armenian and Assyrian Christians, only to be then massacred by the Turks.
Posted by: mhw || 12/08/2005 12:01 Comments || Top||

#4  MHW, I'm rather sick and tired of the Clintonesque apology for that which happened in the past. I doubt that any of the Kurdish leaders were even alive in the '30s. Let's judge them by what they do now before we dump on them for what their fathers and grand-fathers did.
Posted by: AlanC || 12/08/2005 12:29 Comments || Top||

#5  It could become very, very profitable for the Kurds to set up a very cordial, even loving relationship with the Assyrians and Chaldeans. Go so far encourage them to build a basilica worth visiting, along with more typical churches.

This would open the door wide to all sorts of big money tourism and other business deals from the Orthodox realm. Imagine how the Turks would itch if thousands of Greek tourists visited Kurdistan?

The Kurds could be in the position of the new gateway between Europe and Asia, *and* between the Christians and the Moslems. This would make them an international commerce center.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 12/08/2005 12:42 Comments || Top||

#6  As I recall the U. S. did not have any offer of refuge for jews in the 1930's and 1940's except for high value individuals like Einstein. Perhaps LH or TW can provide links, I couldn't find any quickly, but I recall the U. S. routinely refused immigration of Jews from Europe throughout this period. Had we accepted them then, I doubt so many would have chosen to go to the Levant.
Posted by: Flick Phung7435 || 12/08/2005 13:41 Comments || Top||

#7  1) This is a smart move for the Kurds: not only do they gain the industry and hard work of the Chaldeans, etc., but they also gain points from the U.S. -- hey look, a multicultural society!

2) Flick is correct about the Jews of the 1930s, many, many were turned away because of the changes in the immigration quotas put through in the late 1920s.
Posted by: Steve White || 12/08/2005 14:14 Comments || Top||

#8  Regardless of the bickering over past deeds it looks as if the Kurds are grasping democracy and trying to develop a multisecular political base. All of the economic gails moose spoke to will have a healthy effect if they unite the Kurds with Christians politically. It gets better every day, too bad the MSM's are missing this!
Posted by: 49 pan || 12/08/2005 14:20 Comments || Top||

#9  AlanC

The Clinton apologies were annoying partly because of the cloying, hypersincerity but also because they were, in some cases, apologies for what the US "should have done" or for what we have already effectively apologied for.

The massacres of the Assyrians (which continued through the 1940s) were different in that the Kurds have not (as far as I can tell) ever acknowledged the truth to themselves and because the massacres were direct, up close and personal.
Posted by: mhw || 12/08/2005 16:34 Comments || Top||

#10  re the US and Jews in the 30s and 40s.

The US at the time had a country quota for immigrants. Some German Jews came in under the German quota, some Polish Jews under the Polish quota, etc. There was no grant of asylum per se (which at the time would likely have applied to only German Jews, as Poland, etc was not under Nazi rule) So while the US did NOT open up as a land of refuge, it is also incorrect to say that no Jews found refuge here - some did, but only limited numbers through normal immigration procedures.

After the war began, and the evidence of the holocaust taking place appeared, there were international conferences on admission of refugees, and the US did accept some additional refugees beyond the immigration quotas, IIUC, though not tremendous numbers. There is considerable debate about responsibility, with some blaming Roosevelt, some blaming a particular appointee of Roosevelt, some blaming the American Jewish community for not lobbying hard enough, and some blaming the existing presence of antisemitism that constrained Roosevelt AND the American Jews.

Altogether I find it a fruitless argument. There was a necessity to have a Jewish state as refuge for the Jews, and while we American Jews have much to be thankful for, in terms of what America is and what it has done for us, I dont think it was ever realistic to see it as the land of refuge in all circumstances.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 12/08/2005 16:56 Comments || Top||

#11  oh, and given the relatively small numbers of German Jews, and the relatively large German quota, a good portion of German Jews made it to the US in the 30's. Theres an entire neighborhood in the Upper West Side of Manhattan that was largely settled by German Jewish refugees. A young woman of particular emotional importance to me when i was in college ;) was the child of a German Jewish refugee father. The real problem was after the war began, when much larger numbers from eastern europe had no place to go.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 12/08/2005 17:00 Comments || Top||

#12  LH, It may be fair to say that a good portion of the Germans who emigrated to the US in the '30s were Jews but they did not constitute a good portion of the German Jews. Blame whomever you wish for it, but there was considerable and pervasive anti-semitism in the US through WWII. Re-watch Gentleman's Agreement if you doubt it.

During the war there was little problem as everyone was just trying to stay alive. It was after the war that the problem emerged. We'll disagree on the need for a Jewish state as I see the Balfour Declaration as one of the great noble tragedies of the 20th century.
Posted by: Angereng Hupavigum6267 || 12/08/2005 17:24 Comments || Top||

#13  I think that like North African Berber, Kurds are more and more seeing Islam as an Arab tool aimed at enaslaving them. S they begin reject it and try to forge closer ties with other religions (ie christianism). Now let's wait for the next step: we welcome any Jews willing to establish themselves in Kurdistan. That would really make the Arabs mad.
Posted by: JFM || 12/08/2005 17:50 Comments || Top||

#14  I believe that it would be best to remember that not all Kurds are Muslim. Some 800,000 of them are Yazidi, an ancient pre-Islamic religion that worships Malak Ta’us the Peacock Angel.

And, no, I am not making this up.
Posted by: Secret Master || 12/08/2005 20:06 Comments || Top||

#15  mhw,

I still think that you have to cut the current Kurds a good deal of slack for their fathers and grand-fathers sins. It's not like they've spent the last 30 years in some sort of priveledged position.

Maybe if things settle for 5 - 10 years they will be able to confront this. How long did it take the Japanese to confront the treatment of the Koreans and Chinese in the same time frame? And that was after 40 years as a stable, secure democracy.
Posted by: AlanC || 12/08/2005 20:39 Comments || Top||


Four Arabs Given Life For Al-Qaeda Links
Basra, 8 Dec. (AKI) - Four Arab citizens have been given life sentences by Iraq's Central Penal Court after being found guilty of terrorism offences and being members of a cell linked to al-Qaeda. The Iraqi Justice Minister issued a statement announcing the sentences, which it said were given to "terrorists" from Jordan, Syria and Algeria who were members of al-Qaeda's Iraq network, led by the Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. The statement says "the foreign terrorists illegally infiltrated Iraq and committed various crimes, including murder, terror acts and possession of illegal weapons."

The news comes on the eve of the start of a trial of four Saudis accused of the illegal possession of weapons in the town of al-Zubayr, to the south of Basra.

It had been thought that many of the insurgents fighting in Iraq were foreigners. However, a report published in September by the Washington-based Centre for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) stated that even though "no one knows the number of active and part-time insurgents, paid agents and sympathisers," they estimate there to be around 30,000 insurgents in Iraq, of whom only 3,000 are foreign fighters.

The report went on to say that the biggest number of foreign fighters are thought to come from Algeria (600), Syria (550), Yemen (500) and Sudan (450). They believe 350 or around 12 percent of the foreign insurgents are Saudi nationals.
Saudis being more inclined to stand around looking princely while others do the work
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#1  The bogus CSIS foreign fighters study by Anthony Cordesman using data supplied by the Saudis raises its ugly head again. This is a great example of why propaganda is so powerful and how it is repeated ad infinitum by sympathizers and the clueless.
Posted by: ed || 12/08/2005 10:42 Comments || Top||

#2  Four Arabs Given Life For Al-Qaeda Links

Let me know when the headline reads;

Four Arabs Given Death For Al-Qaeda Links

That's when I'll believe that Arabs really are taking Arab terrorism seriously.
Posted by: Zenster || 12/08/2005 11:34 Comments || Top||


Iraq Orders Closure Of Syrian Border
Syrian sources have confirmed that the Iraqi government has decided to close the border between the two countries until further notice. They stressed that it is a "lasting" decision and clarified that the measure will apply to the entry points for those travelling from Syria to Iraq, and not from Iraq to Syria, suggesting that the Syrian government will not close its border to Iraqis.

The Iraqi government announced its decision in a statement issued on Wednesday, which stated that only commercial vehicles "licenced by the Iraqi government" will be allowed to cross the border. In the statement, prime minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari also declared a state of emergency in the Sunni dominated provinces of Ninve and al-Anbar for the next 30 days. Under the emergency law, a 10-7 am curfew will be imposed and a ban on carrying weapons within five kilometres of the Syrian border.

The last time the Syrian-Iraqi border was closed was September, when Iraq decided to stop the flow of people entering the country from Syria for ten days, therefore also preventing Iraqi citizens from returning to their country. This followed the offensive by Iraqi and American forces on the town of Telafar, close to the Syrian-Iraqi border, launched in an effort to prevent armed groups infiltrating Iraq from Syria. The decision to close the border again comes as Iraq prepares to hold elections in a week's time to elect the country's first non-transitory parliament.
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Bus bombing kills 30 in Baghdad
A suicide attacker has detonated a bomb on a bus in Baghdad, killing at least 30 people, Iraqi police said. The vehicle was leaving al-Nahda bus station heading south for the Shia town of Nasiriya when the attack occurred. Witnesses said the bus was gutted and left in flames by the explosion. Another 25 people are reported injured.

Two food and drinks stalls were destroyed by flying shrapnel and their gas cylinders exploded. Reports say some passengers were trapped as fire swept through the bus. "I was standing near when the blast happened. I saw only seven or eight people wounded and all the remaining people inside the bus were killed," said one man. Police believe the attacker waited until the bus was pulling away slowly from the station and jumped on board to avoid security checks. "[The conductor] tried to stop him but the man insisted. He sat in the middle of the bus and then the explosion took place," said a police spokesman.
Need to work on that
Four months ago the station - which serves various parts of the country including the mainly-Shia south of Iraq - was hit by a triple car bombing which killed at least 43 people and wounded 89.
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Units' deployment to Iraq may be cancelled
Snip, duplicate.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 12/08/2005 02:35 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Oops, forgot the link.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 12/08/2005 2:37 Comments || Top||

#2  The 4th Brigade, 10th Mountain Division, based at Fort Polk, La
Posted by: Shipman || 12/08/2005 8:01 Comments || Top||

#3  The 4th Brigade, 10th Mountain Division, based at Fort Polk, La

Sigh, that's the Military for you, 'Aint no mountains in Louisianna.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 12/08/2005 8:23 Comments || Top||

#4  The proposal comes amid growing pressure from Congress and the public

You misspelled Press. I dont see much public pressure to withdraw from Iraq - outside of the MSM and the Vulture Elite.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 12/08/2005 8:53 Comments || Top||

#5  Ain't no mountains around Ft. Drum area either. You have to pack off to the Lake Placid area before you find them. Watertown is flatland dairy country. In 1985 they were going to reactivate the unit simply as the 10th Division [Light Infantry], but the WWII Alumni Association of the division, which featured a certain senior senator from Kansas, Bob Dole, insisted that the title Mountain be retained as an honorarium. The traditions of service and not really wanting to pick an unnecessary fight with a senior senator, won out. "Climb to Glory"
Posted by: Spaiter Hupereck8082 || 12/08/2005 8:56 Comments || Top||

#6  The 4th Brigade, 10th Mountain Division, based at Fort Polk, La
Too bad, they probably preferred Iraq to Leesville / Camp Swampy.
Posted by: wrinkleneck_trout || 12/08/2005 9:28 Comments || Top||

#7  Ahh, Fort Polk... Where there are more alligators and water moccaisins than troops! I grew up in Tioga, about 10 miles north of Alexandria. Leesville High School was one of the teams in our district. Hot, muggy, and ugly, or bitterly cold and wet. I'm sure most Fort Polk troops would be glad to deploy to ANYWHERE, just for a break!
Posted by: Old Patriot || 12/08/2005 13:58 Comments || Top||


Son of Saddam Judge's Bodyguard Kidnapped
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - Gunmen kidnapped the 8-year-old son of a bodyguard for a judge in Saddam Hussein's trial, the father said Wednesday. Karim Salam was taken Tuesday as he played in front of his parent's house in the eastern Baghdad neighborhood of Kamsarah, according to his father, Salam Hirmiz Gorgis. "At about 5:30 p.m. a car came here... they took my son, put him in the car and left," Gorgis told AP Television News.

Gorgis works for one of five judges in the trial of Saddam and seven co-defendants. The judge's identity cannot be revealed due to special security measures imposed for the trial.
Posted by: Steve White || 12/08/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Saddam is trying to get information out to these people too, walked up 4 flights of stairs rather than elevator, trying to soften up his environment, the prison around him with demands, just another effort to "get away" somehow.
Posted by: RG || 12/08/2005 13:49 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Israeli air strike kills 2 militants terrorists in Gaza
GAZA (Reuters) - An Israeli missile struck a house in the northern Gaza Strip on Thursday, killing two Palestinian militants terrorists, Palestinian witnesses and medics said. They said the air strike targeted the home of a member of al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, part of President Mahmoud Abbas's Fatah movement. It followed a Palestinian suicide bombing that killed five Israelis on Monday.
DEBKA sez:Three Fatah-al Aqsa operatives killed by Israeli airborne missiles fired at a house in Beit Lahiya, N. Gaza Strip.
I love the smell of crispy Fatah in the morning
From Rooters: GAZA, Dec 8 (Reuters) - An Israeli aircraft fired a missile into the Gaza Strip on Thursday targetting Palestinian militants three days after a suicide bomber killed five people outside a shopping centre in an Israeli coastal town. Palestinian witnesses said the missile was fired toward a group of militants who were training with rocket-propelled grenade launchers in an open area near the southern town of Khan Younis. There were no immediate reports of casualties.
Same strike or different area?
The Israeli army said it was targetting suspected Palestinian rocket launching sites to prevent further rocket fire into the Jewish state.
Posted by: Steve || 12/08/2005 09:32 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I love the smell of crispy Fatah in the morning

Nothing like Paletoastians for breakfast...
Posted by: Pappy || 12/08/2005 11:21 Comments || Top||

#2  I'm hoping they're different - 2 fer!
Posted by: Herb Tarlick || 12/08/2005 11:56 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Indonesia to tighten security over Christmas, Top may be planning attack
As Christmas and New Year's Eve approach, Central Java police will beef up security in five cities in areas prone to terrorist attacks, a senior police officer said on Wednesday.

In addition to deploying more police in those areas, the police would also keep tabs on the situation via closed-circuit television monitors at big churches in the five cities with significant numbers of Christians. The cities in question are Semarang, Salatiga, Surakarta, Magelang and Banyumas.

The tight security measures will be adopted amid intelligence reports that militant Islamists may be planning terror attacks in the respective cities, said Sr. Comr. Ardi Supardi, the chief of the operations bureau at the Central Java Police headquarters.

Additionally, law enforcement officers have also expressed concerns that Noordin M. Top, a key operative of the Jamaah Islamiyah terror network and accomplice of expert bomb maker Azahari, could be planning to bomb Christian areas in the province. Noordin is still on the loose, but Azahari was shot and killed during a police raid outside of Malang, East Java recently.

As well as stepped up security at churches and other places of worship, extra security will also be provided at malls and tourist destinations.

Police across the nation have reportedly beefed up security this month in response to a series of bomb attacks by terrorists, including simultaneous church bombings, over the past several years.

Ardi, in an apparent attempt to reassure the public by showing that the police had made comprehensive preparations, explained that dozens of body bags had been dispersed to police precincts throughout Java.

Meanwhile, in a hearing with provincial councillors on Wednesday, Ardi also promised to ban all "pornographic performances" during New Year's Eve. The police were condemned by certain groups among the public last year after allegations came to light that one nightclub in the province had held a striptease performance to celebrate the coming of 2005.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 12/08/2005 02:43 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ardi, ... apparent attempt to reassure the public ... made comprehensive preparations, explained that dozens of body bags had been dispersed to police precincts throughout Java.

That's reasureing,I'm reasured.Are you reasured?


Posted by: raptor || 12/08/2005 6:42 Comments || Top||


Malaysia Hands Over Suspected Thai Militant
A suspected leading member of the southern Thai separatist movement, the Pattani United Liberation Organisation (PULO) was arrested in Malaysia and sent back to Thailand, local newspapers said Thursday. The Nation and Bangkok Post dailies, quoting sources, said Manase Jeloh,35, who has a three million baht reward on him, was captured by the Malaysian special branch and handed over to their counterpart two days ago.

The papers said he was handed over to the deputy national police chief, General Priewphan Damapong at the Sadao Immigration checkpoint and being interrogated at a secret location. Neither senior police officials nor those at the multi-agency Southern Border Provinces Peace-building Command would publicly confirm Manase's arrest yesterday, said the Nation.

The suspected insurgent is said to be linked with the PULO. An official reward of Bt1 million for his capture has been on offer for about two years, and was recently raised to Bt3 million. Manase is said to be using several names, including Chakarim Useng Cheloh, Kasim Bin Chelah and Ustas Seng.

He was born on June 30, 1970, and lived in Pattani. He is believed to have undergone about four years of training in Libya. The Thai police suspect him of being involved in several attacks in the southernmost provinces, including planting bombs on several occasions. He recently fled to Malaysia before being arrested in Kuala Lumpur.

It is still not clear if Manase was the suspected militant referred by Malaysian Foreign Minister Datuk Seri Syed Hamid Albar who told reporters last week that a militant had been handed over to the Thai authorities. Confusion arose as the reports said the militant was one of the 131 people who fled to Kelantan in August but Thai authorities quickly denied such handover had taken place.

Since violence escalated in the three southern provinces, more than 1,000 people have been killed in the unrest blamed on a mix of Muslim separatism, organised crime and drug trafficking. PULO emerged in the 1970s during the armed struggle by ethnic Malays in the southernmost provinces of Yala, Pattani and Narathiwat seeking independence from Thailand.

The latest move by the Malaysian authority is expected to further normalise ties between the two neighbours which have been engulfed in a diplomatic row since the refugee issue emerged. The Thais had alleged in few occasions that militants staging violence in the south often fled and hid in Malaysia. The refugees, claiming that they feared for their lives back home, are currently being held in Terengganu and still refused to return despite pledges by the Thai government that their safety would be guaranteed.
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Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Arms cache unearthed in Syria
Syrian security forces found caches of arms and explosives in the province of Aleppo and the suburbs of Damascus, the official SANA agency said, adding the weapons came from Lebanon.
"Them damm Lebanese stirring up trouble, why this wouldn't of happened while we were still running the place!"
The agency also said on Wednesday security forces had unearthed a bomb-making factory in the northern province of Aleppo, the site of recent clashes with security forces. "The security forces in charge of fighting terrorism have discovered during their latest operations against Takfirist terrorists several arms and explosives caches in various places in Aleppo province and the suburbs of Damascus."

SANA said that among the objects discovered were "automatic rifles, anti-tank missile launchers, revolvers, bombs, explosive materials, explosives belts as well as personal documents and Takfirist propaganda." "These arms came into Syria from Lebanon and they were seized during an attempt to send them back into Lebanon following police intervention," it said.

It also said the security forces found a laboratory for making explosives in Aleppo province. SANA said the laboratory contained "all that is necessary for making explosive materials as well as training terrorists for attacks against public places, government buildings and security services offices".

Five people were wounded in clashes between security forces and "a terrorist group" in Aleppo on Sunday, after a confrontation last week in which two fighters were killed, SANA reported at the time. However on Wednesday it said that two people wounded and arrested on Sunday who were part of a "terrorist group" died after admitting that they were planning burglaries to finance their operations. "Anti-riot police seized documents and seriously wounded two of the group's members who died after confessing that the group had the intention of contacting a similar group active in one of Syria's neighbours."
Death often follows "confessions" in Syria.
The group was not identified, but Syrian authorities have reported a number of clashes in recent months with the Jund al-Sham group which Damascus labels a "terrorist organisation". The organisation allegedly surfaced in March when an Internet statement was posted in its name claiming responsibility for a bombing at a theatre in Qatar that killed a Briton. The secular Baath party has been ruling Syria for more than four decades and all Islamist groups are banned. The mainstream Muslim Brotherhood has been proscribed on pain of death since 1980.
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Eight militants die in Syria clash with Islamists
DAMASCUS (Reuters) - Eight Muslim militants were killed in a clash between Syrian security forces and an Islamist group in a farm in central Syria on Thursday, the state news agency SANA reported.

"After an exchange of fire with members of the group for about an hour, a big explosion was heard inside the farm... Three of the group members blew themselves up with explosive belts and five others were killed in the clash," SANA said. The group was hiding in a farm in the town of Maaret al-Nouman near the city of Edleb. It said various weapons were found at the farm including explosive belts.

Syria said on Wednesday its security forces found an explosives factory in the northern city of Aleppo a few days after a clash in which two militants were wounded and later died after confessing that they planned militant acts. The two militants said before they died that they planned contacts with factions active in neighboring countries.

Security forces have clashed with Islamic militants several times this year, usually in raids to arrest them. Two more militants were killed and another wounded in a similar clash in Aleppo last month.

The United States has piled pressure on Syria to seal its long eastern desert border with Iraq to stop militants from crossing to fight U.S. forces there. Syria says it is doing its best but calls on the United States and Iraq to do more too. Authorities say they have also tightened the noose on suspected Arab Islamists, arresting dozens and extraditing scores to their home countries, including Saudi Arabia.

In the early 1980s, Syria crushed an Islamist revolt led by the Muslim Brotherhood movement, leading to the killing and imprisonment of thousands. One group accused by the Syrian authorities of planning attacks -- the Jund al-Sham, or Soldiers of the Levant -- has been linked by some terrorism analysts to al Qaeda leader in Iraq and Jordanian militant, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.
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Terror Networks
The other face of the evil that is Lashkar
"N.Y.," SCREAM the bright orange letters on Ejaz Ahmad Butt's blue winter cap, the iconic initials of a city he knows from Hindi pop films, along with Mumbai, Manali, and New Delhi. He claims to have watched the remake of Devdas over a dozen times, and can fluently mime the ultra-cool gangster character played by the action-film icon Ajay Devgan in Company. He is, in other words, just your average South Asian teenager.

And then again, he isn't.

On the afternoon of November 14, Butt threw a grenade at police personnel near the Palladium Cinema in Srinagar's Lal Chowk and then hid out in a hotel building hoping to ambush the senior officials he knew would arrive soon afterwards. Two Central Reserve Police Force personnel and two civilians were killed in the attack, and 17 persons, including a Japanese photo-journalist, Takeshi Sakuragi, were seriously injured in the Lashkar-e-Taiba fidayeen squad attack.

By early the next morning, a crack Jammu and Kashmir Police commando unit had succeeded in eliminating Butt's comrade in arms, who he knew only by his Lashkar-assigned nom de guerre, Abu Furqan. Unable to execute his mission, the 19-year-old Butt attempted to escape through the back of the hotel and was arrested — which is why he is known today by his real name instead of lying in an unmarked grave, identified in records as Abu Sumama.

In recent months, Indian newspaper readers have become familiar with one face of the Lashkar: highly-educated, impeccably bourgeois terror cell organisers like Tariq Dar, the pharmaceutical firm executive who helped fund the Deepavali serial bombings in New Delhi, or Shabbir Ahmad Bukhari, the Kashmir University law student who transported terrorists from hideouts in northern Kashmir to their targets in Srinagar.

Butt is the other face of the Lashkar: a desperately poor villager who joined the jihad in Jammu and Kashmir for no real reason other than the Pakistani Rs.35,000 the organisation paid to his family. The son of a poor peasant family from the village of Mansoorabad, near the south Punjab city of Faislabad, Butt's journey into the Lashkar's ranks illustrates that while an ideology of religious hatred drives the leadership of Islamist terror groups in Pakistan, poverty plays not a small role in helping them build their armies.

Educated in a government-run school until grade VII, Butt had to abandon his studies after the death of his father, Riyaz Ahmad. A daily-wage agricultural labourer, Riyaz Ahmad left behind a wife and three children. Soon after Riyaz Ahmad's death, Butt's mother, Rashida Butt, also passed away. His brother Nazir, who is now 15 years old, was too young to work; his sister Nahila was only a child. As the oldest man in his family, Butt now had to take responsibility for not just the sustenance but the emotional needs of his siblings.

With no real skills, Butt was fortunate to find work at the Gauhar Bakery, a small-time factory in Mansoorabad, which paid him Rs.2,000 a month. While the money met his siblings' needs, the work was hard and held out no real prospects. Butt understood that he needed savings to pay for Nahila's eventual marriage, which his bakery job simply would not provide. Nor could he pay for an education for Nazir, something that would have given Butt's brother at least some chance of building a better life for himself.

Abu Khubair arrived in Mansoorabad in mid-2003, a young Faislabad resident who had joined the Lashkar some years earlier and returned to work as a recruiter for the organisation after a tour of duty in Jammu and Kashmir. Abu Khubair had everything Butt aspired for: a job that seemed suffused with purpose and adventure; respectability in the community; above all, cash in hand. For the first time in life, Butt thought he could see a way out of his problems.

Soon after he volunteered to join the Lashkar, Butt was despatched for a three-month daura, or training course, at the Dar-ul-Andlus camp, a three-hour walk across the mountains from Muzaffarabad, the capital of Pakistan-administered Kashmir. A former Pakistan Army soldier, Javed Iqbal, taught several dozen recruits basic combat skills, including the use of pistols, grenades, and assault rifles. Iqbal also focussed on improving the physical skills of his students through long-distance hikes and drills.

Much of the training time, however, was devoted to imbuing the Lashkar's peasant recruits with a rudimentary ideological framework for their task. "We were told that Muslims in India were being murdered on a large scale," recalls Butt, "and that they were even prohibited from performing namaaz prayers in Jammu and Kashmir." "I was not much interested in these lectures, though," he says, "the weapons training was much more fun than all the stuff about religious duties."

During the Ramzan of 2004, Butt was sent back to Mansoorabad, and given a small stipend while he waited for orders. In October this year, just after the great earthquake that devastated much of Pakistan-occupied Kashmir, Butt finally received instructions to report to a Lashkar launching camp near the Line of Control in the Dudhniyal sector. On October 25, after three failed infiltration attempts, Butt and a group of five other Lashkar cadre succeeded in cutting the fencing along the LoC, and making their way to a hideout in the Rajwar forests, in the mountains above the north Kashmir town of Kupwara.

If Butt had succeeded in making good his escape from Lal Chowk, and made his way back to Rajwar and then across the LoC, it is possible he would serve, as Abu Khubair did, as a recruiter for the Lashkar. "If you have fought in the jihad in Kashmir," he says, "you are a hero amongst young people in my village." He does not say what is obvious: that in Mansoorabad, and hundreds of other villages like it, there are no other ways for a young person with no money and no education to find respect and self-worth.

To sociologists who have studied recruitment into urban gangs, the phenomenon will be familiar — as will its outcome. More likely than not, Butt will spend at least two decades in Indian jails. His action at the Lal Chowk could lead to his conviction on murder charges, which carry a life term. Given the fact that he is a Pakistani national, and has no friends in India, he is unlikely to receive the quality of legal assistance that could lead to a mitigation of the sentence. Even after his release, past experience shows, Pakistan is unlikely to accept him back, unless his family in Pakistan is able to produce documentation that establishes his nationality.

Asked if he would like to send a letter to his family in Mansoorabad, Butt pauses to think, before answering slowly: "It's better that they think that I am dead."
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