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-Short Attention Span Theater-
Today's tech problems...
Since it's Thanksgiving, Hacker Boy seems to be all sentimental and such. Our hosting company was under a denial of service attack this morning. Hopefully, it's under control now...
Posted by: Fred || 11/24/2005 11:44 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Look at me, I'm crying here. DOS attacks make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Happy Turkey Day Fred, I'll be rattling the tip jar.
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/24/2005 12:01 Comments || Top||

#2  He threw in an annoying glitch to the Submit Query that just redirected you to some other website.

Maybe we shouldn't anger the Jihadis, it might make them mad!
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/24/2005 12:40 Comments || Top||

#3  Hmmm... must've snagged an available PC at the homeless shelter while everyone else was eating.
Posted by: Pappy || 11/24/2005 12:48 Comments || Top||

#4  He lives in his parent's house and surfs / games / hacks all day when he isn't stoned.
Posted by: lotp || 11/24/2005 12:53 Comments || Top||

#5  ltop
What country?
Posted by: 3dc || 11/24/2005 12:55 Comments || Top||

#6  Dunno. Haven't been in on the details - and if he's any good he's coming through anonymizers anyway. Fred probably has some IP trace but I don't know how useful it is ...
Posted by: lotp || 11/24/2005 13:03 Comments || Top||

#7  ima fraid to even post an article here. I tried once and got lost.. somehow and in someway ima sure i would screw the server Turkey up! LOl

Got to go and load up on turkey feedstock. Happy Thanksgiving to all.
Posted by: Red Dog || 11/24/2005 13:44 Comments || Top||

#8  Hippies can get pretty ugly when they can't find their bong.....
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/24/2005 16:55 Comments || Top||

#9  The Left practicing "freedom of speech" through hacktavism. Must suck to be them.
Posted by: Mahou Sensei Negi-bozu || 11/24/2005 17:26 Comments || Top||

#10  Yesterday we were unable to get to your site. I felt like I'd lost a friend. Keep them hackers at bay and thanks for a great site!
Posted by: 49 pan || 11/24/2005 17:46 Comments || Top||

#11  Lost bong? a tragidee I can simpathize.
Posted by: HalfEmpty || 11/24/2005 17:53 Comments || Top||

#12  If the site is down, try www.wotresearch.com. It's another way in.

The attack today wasn't specifically directed at Rantburg. It was directed at our hosting company, and it looks like all that sites on that internet connection were affected.

I've been trying to find the source of our periodic slowdowns. It may have been looking in the wrong place every night for the past couple of weeks.
Posted by: Fred || 11/24/2005 19:25 Comments || Top||

#13  I find it supremely ironic that DOS has finally become known as Denial Of Service. Any takers?
Posted by: Zenster || 11/25/2005 0:00 Comments || Top||


Bangladesh
Suspected JMB cadre arrested in Kurigram
A suspected Jamaatul Mujahideen Bangladesh (JMB) cadre was arrested in Chilmari upazila on Monday. Abu Bakar Siddique, 45, hails from Puran Bazaar in Nageswari upazila. Police sources said, Siddique was arrested by police when the principal of Chilmari Degree College suspected him to be a militant during a conversation.
Posted by: Fred || 11/24/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Bangla: Bomb making materials, explosives recovered
A hideout of outlawed Islamist militant organisation Jamaatul Mujahideen Bangladesh (JMB) was unearthed by police in Rangpur town in the early hours of yesterday. Huge quantity of bomb making materials, explosives and documentary evidences were also recovered from the place. Rangpur police said the JMB high-ups had been using the hideout as a control room for carrying out terrorist activities in different districts of the North Bengal.

Acting on a tip-off, a joint team of Nilphamari and Rangpur police along with a team of Rapid Action Battalion (RAB) went to Mohadevpur, a comparatively silent area in Rangpur town in the early hours of yesterday. The joint team led by Nilphamari police super Shoaib Ahmed raided into a four-storeyed house there after midnight. Breaking the lock of a room at the second floor of the building, police found huge quantity of bomb-making equipment, circuits, wires, detonators, several walkie-talkies, gun powder, firearms, ramdas, chapatis, knives, mobile phone SIM cards, a computer, CDs, audio cassettes, and quite a large number of Islami books and written formulas of making bombs.
Chapatis? I've always liked chapatis. I've never seen them explode, though...
Besides, a passport of Ataur Rahman, younger brother of absconding JMB chief Shaikh Abdur Rahman and other documents containing the photographs of Abdul Awal, son-in-law of Shaikh Abdur Rahman were recovered during the raid. However, police could not arrest anyone from the house as all the inmates managed to escape before the arrival of police.

Police said Abdul Awal had lived in the house with his family for several days before his arrest in Thakurgaon. It is learnt that one Rafiqul Islam rented the house on September 28 last introducing himself as a fruit trader to the house-owner Zahirul Huque. Later on October 24, Rafiqul Islam brought Abdul Awal and his wife to the house introducing them as his brother-in-law and sister. Rafique escaped from the house several days ago secretly and telling nothing else to the house-owner. Since then he has been missing.

Following the raid into the house, panic gripped entire Mohadevpur area. A large contingent of police and RAB has been deployed in and around the house. Following the raid into the house, police super Shoaib Ahmed told journalists that they were confirmed that Abdul Awal and his family members had lived in the house for a couple of days. He said the militants might have been hatching a plan to carry out fresh attacks sitting in that particular house. However, they had escaped from the house before the raid by police. The Nilphamari police super also said that police might be able to get valuable information about the JMB leaders, their networks and future plans after examining the recovered documents, watching CDs and hearing audio cassettes.

Meanwhile, Tanveeruzzaman alias Salman alias Murad, a member of suicide squad of JMB, who was arrested in Panchagarh several days ago, gave confessional statement to a local court in Panchagarh under the Section 164 confessing his involvement in August 17 bomb blasts in the district.
Posted by: Fred || 11/24/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  maybe the sharpen the edges of the chapatis? kind of like Odd Job's Hat.

Posted by: Red Dog || 11/24/2005 1:27 Comments || Top||

#2  plz forgive: English is not my #1 language, it's my #.638 language.
Posted by: Red Dog || 11/24/2005 1:31 Comments || Top||

#3  During the Indian mutiny in the british controlled Raj chapaties were passed around as a sign of the impending uprising. In this case though I'd guess its just the RAB being incomprehensibly weird again
Posted by: pihkalbadger || 11/24/2005 8:46 Comments || Top||

#4  Ima lern Chapatis are frybread.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/24/2005 10:02 Comments || Top||

#5  Mmmm...frybread.
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/24/2005 12:03 Comments || Top||


Britain
Algerian al-Qaeda suspect convicted
An Algerian man with suspected al-Qaeda links has been found guilty of downloading information on how to blow-up a passenger jet.

Abbas Boutrab, 27, was arrested in Newtownabbey, near north Belfast, over suspected immigration offences.

Police later found computer discs with downloaded bomb-making instructions. Boutrab had denied the terror charges.

Crown Court judge Mr Justice Weatherup said the information could have been of use to Islamic terrorists.

He also said that modifications made to the circuitry on a cassette player indicated intent.

"I am satisfied that his possession of the material was not out of curiosity but was for terrorist purposes," the judge said.

Boutrab has spent the last two-and-a-half years on remand in Maghaberry Prison.

During the trial the court heard computer discs containing instructions on how to make explosives for use on board aeroplanes, and how to carry out an attack, were found at his flat in the Whitehouse area of Whiteabbey.

Details on how to make a silencer for an assault rifle were also found as were a number of false identities and passports.

Boutrab was tried under the Diplock system, where a judge in a terrorist case sits without a jury.

He will be sentenced next month.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 11/24/2005 12:51 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Senior Chechen commander from the first war surrenders
Russian media has reported the surrender of a Chechen rebel commander described as prominent, days before Kremlin-organized local parliamentary elections are held in Chechnya, but sources in the rebel republic said the commander had long stopped fighting.

'One of the most influential among rebel leaders, Khizir Khachukayev, today in the Chechen republic voluntarily surrendered himself to the authorities to benefit from an amnesty,' state-controled Channel One television said.

It then proceeded to show Khachukayev, in front of Moscow's television tower, laboriously reading a prepared statement announcing the dismemberment of his combat unit.

However, sources in Chechnya told Agence France-Presse that while Khachukayev had been active on the rebel side in the first, 1994-1996 Chechen war, he had taken no part in the second conflict, which has been going on since October 1999.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 11/24/2005 00:21 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Caucasus Corpse Count
Three Russian soldiers and a policeman have been killed in fighting in Chechnya, a source in the local government told AFP Wednesday.

Two soldiers died and three were wounded during attacks by insurgents on military posts, while another died near the mountain village of Itum-Kale in a landmine explosion, the official, who requested anonymity, said by telephone from Grozny.

On Tuesday a policeman was killed in Grozny and two others died when their patrol came under fire.

A fourth soldier died in the eastern hill district of Nozhai-Yurt in an accidental explosion.

The violence came as Russian authorities prepared to hold elections to a local parliament seeking to show peace has returned to the tiny, impoverished province.

Critics say that intimidation, kidnappings and the continued fighting make it impossible to hold a fair vote.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 11/24/2005 00:19 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Europe
How a Belgian town became HQ for the GICM
The phones at city hall began ringing nonstop one morning last year when several masked figures were spotted walking through the cobbled streets of this pastoral town. A small panic erupted when one of the figures, covered head to ankle in black fabric, appeared at a school and scared children to tears.

It turned out the people were not hooded criminals, but six female residents of Maaseik who were displaying their Muslim piety by wearing burqas , garments that veiled their faces, including their eyes. After calm was restored, a displeased Mayor Jan Creemers summoned the women to his office.

"I said, 'Ladies, you can be dressed all in Armani black for all I care, but please do not cover your faces,' " Creemers recalled. "I tried to talk to them about it, but it was impossible. They said, 'We are the only true believers of the Koran.' "

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Posted by: Dan Darling || 11/24/2005 00:28 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Nothing like running an undercover terrorist organization and sending the wimmenfolk out dressed like.... supporters of a terrorist organization. We are so PC drugged we cannot even see the connection.

Posted by: john || 11/24/2005 9:04 Comments || Top||

#2  Everywhere you look...radical islam manifests itself as a mental disease. These people are derranged and have no place society if they embrace this insanity.
Posted by: anymouse || 11/24/2005 9:27 Comments || Top||

#3  Insanity is their society, methinks.
Posted by: .com || 11/24/2005 9:53 Comments || Top||


German Police Search Mosque, Homes
Police and prosecutors searched a mosque and 22 homes Wednesday in southern Germany as part of an investigation into an outlawed Islamic group accused of spawning terrorists. Bavarian police were investigating 21 people in connection with the pre-dawn raids near the towns of Ingolstadt and Schwabach, police spokesman Heinz Rindlbacher said. Police said they could not immediately report arrests or the results of the searches due to the ongoing investigation.

Authorities said the suspects may have been continuing the activities of Hilafet Devleti, or Caliphate State, which was outlawed in December 2001 under anti-terrorism powers put in place after the Sept. 11 attacks. The Cologne-based Caliphate State, led by Turkish-born Muhammed Metin Kaplan, had openly called for the overthrow of Turkey's secular government and its replacement with an Islamic state.

Former Interior Minister Otto Schily described the group, which had more than 1,000 members in Germany, as "a breeding ground for Islamic terrorists" that spread anti-Semitic and anti-Israeli rhetoric. Kaplan served a four-year prison sentence in Germany for incitement in the 1997 killing of a rival cleric in Berlin. He was extradited last year to Turkey, where he was sentenced to life in prison for masterminding a failed 1998 plot to crash an airplane into the mausoleum of modern Turkey's founder, Mustafa Kemal Ataturk.

The ban on Caliphate State covered a number of affiliates, including one that was shut down in Ingolstadt. Former members rented the premises again early in 2003, saying it would be used for prayer, Rindlbacher said. "In the course of the investigation, suspicion has hardened against 21 persons from the region that they are members of a forbidden organization or that they support its continuation," he said.
Posted by: Fred || 11/24/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Spain arrests 10 in crackdown on Al Qaeda-linked group
Follow-up to the story lotp posted yesterday.
MADRID - Spain arrested 10 people on Wednesday suspected of providing financial and logistical support for an Algerian militant group linked to Al Qaeda.

Interior Minister Jose Antonio Alonso said authorities had no information that the group planned to carry out any attack ”in the short- or medium-term” and he called for calm among residents of towns where the 10 were arrested. But his ministry said the group’s activities had extended to other European countries as its members had connections with Algerian-born residents in Germany, the Netherlands, Britain, Belgium and Denmark.

The arrest of the 10, in raids in southern and southeastern Spain, follows a 10-month investigation by Spanish police, Alonso told a news conference. “The Civil Guard’s operation fits within the state’s task to prevent terrorist activities, cutting them off at the root,” Alonso said.
Nah, if you were serious about that your troops would still be in Iraq.
Spanish police were in touch with security forces in other European countries to work together on investigating the Spanish cell and “other networks of international terrorism that could be linked to it”, he said.

The detainees are accused of providing financing and logistical support for the Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat, Algeria’s largest outlawed militant movement. They are accused of raising money through drug-trafficking, faking credit cards and theft from vehicles and property.

An Interior Ministry spokesman said he could not confirm the nationality of the 10. A judicial source said earlier that they included Algerian and Moroccan citizens.
Which is why he wouldn't comment, lest someone be offended.
Seven people were arrested in Alicante on the southeast coast, one in nearby Murcia and two in the southern city of Granada. Police also seized documents, computers, drugs and 35,000 euros ($41,180) in cash, Alonso said. “With this operation, the infrastructure of this cell in our country has been broken up,” the Interior Ministry said in a statement, adding the operation remained open and there could be more arrests.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/24/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Home Front: WoT
Paracha convicted
A Pakistani man who claimed he was pressured into a false confession was convicted Wednesday of trying to help an al-Qaida operative slip past U.S. immigration officials.

A federal jury deliberated for about five hours before finding Uzair Paracha, 25, guilty of providing material support to terrorists and of other related charges. He could face up to 75 years in prison.

The government accused Paracha of trying to help Majid Khan, an alleged al-Qaida member, sneak into the country using fake travel documents.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Karl Metzner told the jury Paracha wanted to help Khan and "did so knowing that a terrorist was coming here for one purpose: to kill Americans."

Paracha testified he was pressured into confession and only told investigators "what I thought they wanted to hear." His defense attorney Edward Wilford said the FBI denied his client food and sleep during hours of questioning -- "the ideal conditions to create a false confession."

The man Paracha is accused of trying to help, Khan, is presumed to be in overseas jails.

Paracha's father, Saifullah Paracha, is also being held as an enemy combatant in the U.S. detention center in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. He has not been charged with a crime, but documents indicate he is suspected of laundering money for terrorists and associating with al-Qaida figures. He has repeatedly denied any knowing involvement in terrorism.

Uzair Paracha grew up in Pakistan, but has lived off and on for many years in New York, where his family has several business ventures.

After his detention in 2003, he told agents that Khan had tried to recruit him to al-Qaida and made clear that he wanted to come to the United States as part of a plot to attack Americans.

Paracha told the agents he had no personal interest in al-Qaida but cooperated because Khan and others related to the terrorist network had promised to invest $200,000 in one of the family's businesses.

Just before the trial began two weeks ago, U.S. District Judge Sidney H. Stein denied Paracha's request to call as witnesses Khan, Ammar Al-Baluchi and Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, al-Qaida's No. 3 leader, who was in U.S. custody after he was captured in Pakistan.

Paracha's sentencing is set for March 4.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 11/24/2005 00:04 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "the ideal conditions to create a false confession."
Not quite,little Eddie.The rack,or iron maiden,those are ideal.
Posted by: raptor || 11/24/2005 6:33 Comments || Top||

#2  Iron Maiden? Excellent!

Posted by: Raj || 11/24/2005 9:55 Comments || Top||

#3 

Iron Maiden.
Posted by: Fred || 11/24/2005 12:13 Comments || Top||


Iraq
Jaish Mohammed lieutenant, propaganda chief captured
Acting on multiple intelligence sources and tips from concerned citizens, Coalition forces raided a suspected Jaysh al-Mujahideen terrorist safe house in Abu Ghurayb, west of Baghdad, Oct. 23.

Captured during the raid was Ahmad Ni’mah Khudayyir Abbas (aka. Abu Shihab), a recently identified Jaysh al-Mujahideen lieutenant who oversaw the propaganda cell and who commanded several mortar and improvised explosive device cells.

Abu Shihab, as the propaganda chief for the Jaysh al-Mujahideen media cell operating in the Baghdad area, initially recorded videos and digitized them to compact disc for distribution to various Jaysh al-Mujahideen and al Qaeda in Iraq terrorist groups. These videos would then be downloaded to various Jihadist web sites as propaganda against Iraqi security and coalition forces.

Additionally, the videos would be used to recruit terrorists and foreign fighters, as well as to provide information on potential targets for other terrorists. As his skills and terrorist connections developed, he began directing and coordinating media operations throughout the Baghdad area for Jaysh al-Mujahideen.

Abu Shihab’s multi-media and organizational skills propelled him to the highest tier within Jaysh al-Mujahideen. Once he became a lieutenant to the Emir of Jaysh al-Mujahideen, he assumed responsibility for a myriad of terrorist duties. Besides overseeing Jaysh al-Mujahideen media operations, Abu Shihab was responsible for the coordination of weapons, explosive purchases and the distribution of money to different terrorist cells, as well as the official record keeping of the organization’s terrorist activities.

Abu Shihab was also in command of several terrorist cells in the Baghdad area, specifically mortar and IED cells. He admitted to conducting numerous bombings and mortar attacks against Iraqi security and coalition forces.

Abu Shihab admitted to being involved in the swindling of money from Iraqi citizens. He, as well as other Jaysh al-Mujahideen terrorists, would represent a local Baghdad charity they set up specifically to funnel donations to Jaysh al-Mujahideen.

One method of garnering donations from local citizens, according to Abu Shihab, was to stage pictures with children and young adults highlighting the “charity’s” name and logo in the background. The pictures would be shown to the Iraqis to solicit money supposedly in support of youth education and religious study; these donations would then be used to support terrorist operations in the Baghdad area.

The Jaysh al-Mujahideen terrorist organization, which is centrally controlled in Baghdad, also has terrorist cells in major cities in Iraq, to include Mosul, Fallujah, Ramadi; Jaysh al-Mujahideen is associated with al Qaeda in Iraq.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 11/24/2005 12:17 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hmmm -- Interesting job description! Looks like there's an opening for Terry McAuliffe.
Posted by: Spavitch Flavins2154 || 11/24/2005 12:59 Comments || Top||

#2  I was thinking Kos. Liar, not very bright, huge ego?
Posted by: anymouse || 11/24/2005 19:23 Comments || Top||

#3  anymouse - lol!
Posted by: 2b || 11/24/2005 23:19 Comments || Top||


30 dead in bombing of Iraqi hospital
A suicide car bomber today killed 30 people outside a hospital in central Iraq, including four police guards, three women and two children.

Four US soldiers who had been handing out toys to children outside the hospital in Mahmoudiya, about 30 km (20 miles) south of Baghdad, were injured in the blast. Dr. Dawoud al-Taie, the director of the Mahmoudiyah hospital, said that 35 other people were also wounded.

A US military statement said: "Task Force Baghdad civil affairs soldiers were at the hospital conducting an assessment for upgrades to the facility when the car bomb detonated. Task Force Baghdad officials said the target appears to have been the hospital, but the terrorist was unable to penetrate the security perimeter before detonating."

However an Iraqi army spokesman said that the bomber was targeting US military vehicles parked near the hospital.

"It was an explosion at the gate of the hospital," said one woman who had wounds on her face and legs. "My children are gone. My brother is gone."

Mahmoudiya is a religiously mixed town in the so-called triangle of death, a region known for attacks on coalition forces and on Shia Muslims on their way to visit shrines south of the region.

In July 13 a suicide bomber killed 18 children and teenagers getting sweets and toys from American soldiers. One of the soldiers was among the 27 people killed in that blast in an impoverished Shia area of Baghdad.

In a separate incident, at least two people died when a car bomb exploded this afternoon in the Shia city of Hilla, south of Baghdad, police said.

The bomb went off near a crowded soft drink stand, police Captain Muthanna Khalid said. It was unclear whether the car was driven by a suicide attacker.

Hilla, 95 km (60 miles) south of Baghdad, has frequently been targeted by suicide bombers. On February 28, a suicide car bomber killed 125 people in Hillah, the deadliest single strike since the fall of Saddam Hussein.

In a press conference today, a government spokesman, Laith Kubba, said that insurgent attacks are expected to rise before elections on December 15. He said that "Muslim extremists and Saddam (Hussein’s) criminals" will be making their last stand.

On Wednesday, gunmen wearing Iraqi army uniforms burst into the home of a Sunni Arab sheikh whose brother is an election candidate, killing him, three of his sons and a son-in-law in an attack that police said may have been aimed at discouraging members of the minority from participating in next month’s election.

Some insurgent groups have declared a boycott of the election and have threatened politicians who participate.

Police Major Falah al-Mohammedawi denied that the Shia- dominated government forces were involved in the killings, and blamed the insurgents.

"Surely, they are outlaw insurgents. As for the military uniform, they can be bought from many shops in Baghdad," he said, adding that several police and army vehicles had been stolen and could be used in raids.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 11/24/2005 12:12 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The Democrats are also to blame for these deaths. Their seditous talk encourages suicide attacks and terrorist in Iraq. Children's blood on Democrats hands.

Hey Hey.
Ho Ho.
Cut and run Murtha has got to go!

Hey Hey,
Ho Ho,
traitor Pelosi has got to go!

Hey Hey,
Ho Ho,
back shooter Kerry has got to go!
Posted by: Mahou Sensei Negi-bozu || 11/24/2005 17:12 Comments || Top||

#2  Victory thru Superior Chanting!
Posted by: Shipman || 11/24/2005 19:54 Comments || Top||

#3  If the spokesman did indeed use the phrase, "moslem extremists" and if this phrase gets used more in Iraq by the general population it may be a psychological breakthrough.

This is because the mental barrier that prevents Iraqis (not to mention Syrians, Saudis, etc.) from admitting to themselves that Islam is the cause of their problems.
Posted by: mhw || 11/24/2005 21:20 Comments || Top||


Some insurgent groups want to negotiate surrender to Talabani
Several insurgents groups have contacted President Jalal Talabani's office in the past few days, with some saying they are ready to lay down their arms and join the political process, the presidential security adviser said Thursday.

Lt. Gen. Wafiq al-Samaraei told The Associated Press that "the calls we received were different. The calls were also from different groups."

Al-Samaraei, a former military intelligence chief under Saddam Hussein, did not say whether the groups were Muslim extremists or belonged to Saddam's Baath Party.

Talabani said last weekend in Egypt he was ready for talks with anti-government opposition figures as well as Baathists. He called the Sunni-led insurgents to lay down their weapons and join the political process.

"Many groups have called and some of them clearly expressed the readiness to join the political process," al-Samaraei said. This shows that "the initiative was welcomed by Iraqis."

In the western province of Anbar, members of some militant groups told the AP that they had been in talks with Deputy Prime Minister Ahmad Chalabi for about two weeks but would not say how they were going.

On Monday, al-Samaraei told Al-Jazeera television that he received a call from a person who claimed to be a senior official of the resistance who was interested in talks. He would not elaborate.

During remarks last Sunday in Cairo, Talabani said his offer to talk with insurgents did not extend to members of Saddam's Baath Party unless they agreed to lay down their weapons.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 11/24/2005 12:11 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I thought we were losing.
Posted by: plainslow || 11/24/2005 12:20 Comments || Top||

#2  This worked so well in Fallujah.....

These terrorists have no problem with lying and breaking their word to those they consider 'infidels' (which includes most muslims).
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/24/2005 12:24 Comments || Top||

#3  In Fallujah, the deal they got allowed them to have a local 'security force'. The Iraqi government would have to be crazy to allow that again. As long as they accept Iraqi government forces in their towns they should be allowed to surrender.
Posted by: Apostate || 11/24/2005 12:52 Comments || Top||

#4  Talabani's insistence that they disarm seems to indicate that he's learned a thing or two from what happened in Fallujah. As we've noted during our observations on the Israeli-Palestinian peace processor, it's the disarmament issue that is almost always the stickler when discussing truces, cease-fires, or what not.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 11/24/2005 13:09 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
King Abdullah calls for War on Islamic extremism, fires PM
Jordan's King Abdullah II urged his new prime minister Thursday to launch an all-out war against Islamic militancy in the wake of the triple hotel bombings earlier this month that killed 63 people.

In a letter to newly appointed Prime Minister Marouf al-Bakhit, Abdullah said the Nov. 9 bombings "increase our determination to stick to our reform and democratization process, which is irreversible."

"At the same time, it reaffirms our need to adopt a comprehensive strategy to confront the Takfiri culture," Abdullah said, referring to the ideology adopted by Al Qaeda and other militants who condone the killing of those they consider infidels.

Abdullah said the strategy should "not only deal with the security dimension, but also the ideological, cultural and political spheres to confront those who choose the path of destruction and sabotage to reach their goals."

Al-Bakhit was Jordan's ambassador to Israel until appointed to head the national security council six days after the bombings.

Prime Minister Adnan Badran resigned earlier Thursday, the official told The Associated Press, speaking on condition of anonymity because he is not allowed to speak to the press.

The official Petra news agency confirmed Badran's resignation, saying the prime minister, had tendered his Cabinet's resignation to the king and the monarch accepted it. Badran took office in April.

The change of government is part of general shake-up following the suicide bombings, which hurt Jordan's reputation as one of the most stable countries in the Middle East.

Al-Bakhit was appointed Nov. 15 to head the national security council.

Government officials said the king may have chosen al-Bakhit because of his reputation as a tough former general who ran a southern Jordanian university that trains army and police recruits.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 11/24/2005 12:13 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Amazing how Kingy-Boy suddenly has his knickers in a knot now that the murderers are howling for his head. Why wasn't he "aware" of this critical issue four years ago? It's not like he doesn't have a television in his palace.

I suppose we must thank Zarqawi for bringing yet another blushing bride to the altar of fighting terrorism. As always, only some lusty Muslim on Muslim violence ever changes (however minutely) their attitude towards warring with the infidel.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/24/2005 12:44 Comments || Top||

#2  What! Kill us.
Posted by: Bardo || 11/24/2005 13:29 Comments || Top||

#3  I'd say, Zenster, that four years ago he hadn't seen just how unwilling the US is to lay down and surrender...
Posted by: Edward Yee || 11/24/2005 18:13 Comments || Top||

#4  While I can only agree with you, Edward, this begs the question of whether much of this world has entirely forgotten the lessons and example of America's moral resolve taught us by World War II.

It seems incredible that these upstarts do not bother themselves with even the briefest historic retrospection before engaging what can only be the most puissant of enemies.

To dub America worthy of dire atrocities without considering the consequences of goading this world's only superpower into righteous fury is, quite simply, suicidal. Abdullah II is undeserving of his throne if he cannot keep such elementary concepts in proper perspective.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/24/2005 18:32 Comments || Top||

#5  > Amazing how Kingy-Boy suddenly has his knickers in a knot now that the murderers are howling for his head. Why wasn't he "aware" of this critical issue four years ago? It's not like he doesn't have a television in his palace.

But, to his credit, he did appear on an episode of Star Trek: Voyager:

Posted by: Mizzou Mafia || 11/24/2005 19:04 Comments || Top||

#6  The powers in these countries are finally understanding it's not a muzzie vs. westerners fight, but a fight for survival for all modern civilization. If we get more than passive support from Jordan and the Soddies we just might get the other muzzie states to stop supporting AQ.
The best thing here is we now have a very divided Islamic community. Now our islamic allies might begin to actually fight the enemy.
Posted by: 49 pan || 11/24/2005 19:47 Comments || Top||

#7  The powers in these countries are finally understanding it's not a muzzie vs. westerners fight, but a fight for survival for all modern civilization. If we get more than passive support from Jordan and the Soddies we just might get the other muzzie states to stop supporting AQ.
The best thing here is we now have a very divided Islamic community. Now our islamic allies might begin to actually fight the enemy.
Posted by: 49 pan || 11/24/2005 19:47 Comments || Top||

#8  sorry bout the double post.
Posted by: 49 pan || 11/24/2005 19:48 Comments || Top||

#9  I've come to the conclusion we're not going to get true support from the Soddies. They're trying to stamp out the bad guyz in their territory only.

Their holy men are the head cheeses among the Learned Elders of Islam. When the princes chop off a few of their heads they'll be cooperating fully.

Notice that when Mufti Shamzai was bumped off in Karachi a year and a half ago the organized violence there dropped off dramatically. All those hard boyz who were operating with his spiritual guidance were suddenly a leaderless mob. And each mullah who was a candidate to replace him was knocked off in his turn -- I think it took about two weeks. Suddenly jihad within Pak has become sporadic.
Posted by: Fred || 11/24/2005 20:02 Comments || Top||

#10  Agreed. Controlling the Mullas, chopping of heads, in the adjoining countries of Iraq will certainly make CENTCOM's job a lot easier. No matter who controls them it will be better for us.
Posted by: 49 pan || 11/24/2005 20:17 Comments || Top||

#11  The King of Jordan has a rightful claim to lots that the SA princes currently control. Perhaps his Secrect Services will start playing wack a mullah.
Posted by: Mahou Sensei Negi-bozu || 11/24/2005 20:51 Comments || Top||

#12  And, for all that he hasn't done everything we might like, Abdullah has in fact been pretty supportive of us in Iraq.

Time to redraw the lines that Gertrude Bell and Sir Percy drew huh Sensei??
Posted by: lotp || 11/24/2005 21:29 Comments || Top||

#13  re: lessons forgotten? I'd say oh yeah, or conveniently brushed aside. Btw, Zenster, E-mail me so we can continue this discussion there?
Posted by: Edward Yee || 11/24/2005 23:56 Comments || Top||


J'lem post selection
Paraglider who landed in Lebanon indicted
Adam Wexler, a test paraglider who floated into Lebanon on Wednesday, was charged in the Safed Magistrate's Court on Thursday for disobeying a military order and the negligent operation of a flight vessel.

Police said that paragliders require permits from the IDF and the civil aviation authorities before they are allowed to take off along the northern border. Wexler, police said, was intimately familiar with the regulations since he was a test paraglider for a commercial company

15 smuggled Kalachnikovs caught by IDF, police
The army revealed that overnight Border Police and IDF forces thwarted an attempt to smuggle arms from Egypt into Israel.

Security forces spotted three suspects crossing the border near Mount Sagi, and searching the area uncovered three sacks containing 15 Kalachnikov rifles and 15 matching ammunition clips.

Palestinian tries to carry bomb through checkpoint

Posted by: gromgoru || 11/24/2005 08:49 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  a test paraglider
A perenial Darwin favorite.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/24/2005 19:56 Comments || Top||


Jihad funds seized at Ashdod port
The Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency) revealed on Sunday that tens of thousands of dollars worth of goods allegedly purchased to finance Islamic Jihad activities were seized by security forces and customs authorities at the Ashdod port recently.

Officials believe thousands of US dollars were transferred in a similar way and used by the Islamic Jihad to finance the West Bank infrastructures which planned and perpetrated a number of suicide bomb attacks in Israel. These include the Stage nightclub in Tel Aviv in January 2005 in which five Israelis were killed and scores wounded, the Netanya mall suicide bomb attack in July this year in which five Israelis were killed and last month's Hadera suicide bomb attack in which six Israelis were killed.

In order to finance its activities, the Islamic Jihad resorts to a number of money laundering tactics in order to evade detection. According to details released for publication, the seized goods consisted of bottles of palm oil and were sent to the Abu Akar company in Gaza that deals with importing foodstuff. Faiz Abu Akar, the company owner, is a Khan Younis businessman also known for his links to terrorist organizations. Security forces arrested him shortly after the raid at the port.

According to security officials, in an effort to whitewash money used to finance its activities, Islamic Jihad operatives abroad purchase goods that are sent to companies in Palestinian Authority controlled areas. There, the money from the sales of the goods is transferred to Islamic Jihad operatives to fund terrorist activities in the West Bank and Gaza.

On November 1, Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz signed the seizure order. Officials noted that in recent months there has been an upsurge in Islamic Jihad attacks despite the so-called tahdiya (calm), and the organization has intensified its efforts to refurbish the infrastructures and strengthen its capability.

Because of the situation, security officials and customs authorities plan to tighten up supervision over merchandise sent from abroad.

Posted by: Frank G || 11/24/2005 01:43 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Arabiyat clan torn over whether or not to support al-Qaeda
The tattoo on Nidal Arabiyat's left arm revealed all the pain he came to know as a child when a car slammed into his mother and killed her as they crossed a street together, holding hands. "The world," it said in Arabic, "is not worth one teardrop."

But Mr. Arabiyat's bitter sorrow eventually gave way to a more powerful force in his life. He, like thousands of other young Arab men, found religion and signed on to fight a jihad in places like Afghanistan and Iraq, where he became a follower of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, leader of Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia.

With his newfound calling, he had the tattoo removed, painfully, because Muslims believe that those who have tattoos are damned.

Continued on Page 49
Posted by: Dan Darling || 11/24/2005 00:07 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Freedom of worship ends where promotion of terrorism begins. Fry that mosque with napalm, in the middle of Friday prayers to the moon god.
Posted by: CaziFarkus || 11/24/2005 6:04 Comments || Top||

#2  Mr. Arabiyat's father, Muhammad, tries to avoid talking about his son's conversion to the most radical trend in Islam, because his son is dead now, killed last year at 31, fighting in Iraq.

Avoid talking = Ignoring Cause -> Effect

The conversion began in 1998, when Nidal was 25, his father said. In an echo of his childhood trauma, it, too, involved death on the road. He and friends had been in Amman, drinking alcohol late one night, when their car crashed on the way home. Two people in the car were killed. Nidal suffered only minor injuries but grew introverted.

He grew a beard and began wearing a traditional long white robe. He shunned his old friends, spent most of his time in the mosque and then, one day, announced he was going on a pilgrimage to Mecca called omra.


Ah yes, per Dennis Miller:

Isn't it funny how so many people find God only after they have painted themselves into a moral corner and made life a living hell for those around them. Nobody finds Jesus on prom night.

This loon decides that the world is not ready for demon alcohol after he goes and screws the pooch. Quite obviously, jihad must be the only alternative. Way to go, buddy. Guess what? You're dead and we're not. Ha ha! Skoal!
Posted by: Zenster || 11/24/2005 14:02 Comments || Top||


Israel Captures Key Islamic Jihad Militant
A top Islamic Jihad militant surrendered to Israeli soldiers early Thursday, witnesses said, after a daylong siege during which army bulldozers knocked down the four-story house where he was hiding.
"You'll never take me alive, coppers!"
"Moshe! Drop the house!"
"I give up!"
Dozens of troops surrounded the building in the town of Jenin in the hunt for Iyad Abu Rob. Witnesses said Abu Rob, a senior commander of Islamic Jihad in the northern West Bank, emerged from the wrecked house after midnight and was taken away by soldiers along with one of his aides.
"Book him, Danno!"
On Wednesday, more than 70 army jeeps and 25 armored personnel carriers entered Jenin, and troops announced a curfew over loudspeakers as part of an arrest raid, residents said. Several armored personnel carriers surrounded the building where Abu Rob was believed to be hiding, and snipers took up positions on nearby roofs. The Israeli army said it was conducting an arrest operation in Jenin, but would not give further details.
Posted by: Pappy || 11/24/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  D9 driver: "Let's go get a beer, lads. Our work here is done."
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/24/2005 1:36 Comments || Top||

#2  a beer? How about an "Abu Roy Rob"
Posted by: Frank G || 11/24/2005 1:39 Comments || Top||

#3  Witnesses said Abu Rob, a senior commander of Islamic Jihad in the northern West Bank, emerged from the wrecked house after midnight and was taken away by soldiers along with one of his aides.

Oh goody. Another one to "catch and release." It doesn't matter whether or not he sings louder than an over-caffeinated canary. Grill the sucker like a raw prawn then stuff him into a brand new Italian silk suit with pockets stuffed full of high denomination bills and Cuban cigars. Make sure parade dress IDF officers blow him kisses as he's booted out of a Mercedes limo filled with scantily clad girls waving half-drained Champagne bottles that has stopped in front of the local Palestinian Authority police station. Wish him the best of luck and thank him twice before speeding off. I doubt he'll have a chance to finish even one of the cigars before they stabilize him.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/24/2005 2:04 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Indonesia Muslim groups call for the banning of Imam Samudra's book
Hasyim Muzadi, head of Indonesia's largest Muslim grouping - the 40-million-member Nahdlatul Ulama - said convicted Bali bomb mastermind Imam Samudra's best-selling biography should be withdrawn from bookshops as it could inspire other militants, the Australian daily The Age reports. The books contains defiant justifications for the October 2002 Bali nightclub blasts which killed 202 people, among them 88 Australians. Samudra is currently on death-row in an Indonesian jail for his role in the bombings.

Muzadi condemned Samudra's book, entitled 'Me Against the Terrorist!' whose cover shows Samudra, 35, in the classic pose he adopted at his trial, lecturing the judges with his right arm raised, and wagging his finger.

"Islam teaches that there shall be no killing of other human beings unless it is a war situation," Mazadi was quoting as telling the Swara Muslim (Voice of Islam) website, adding "The government must withdraw the book from sale."

The 280-page book has outlines Samudra's political beliefs, which include anti-US sentiment, the killing of Westerners, and the 'rationale' for the Bali bombings. Retailing at four dollars a copy, it is a bestseller in Indonesia, covering Samudra's early school years, his training as a mujahadeen in the mountains of Afghanistan, and his exile in Malaysia during a crackdown on Islamic militants. A chapter titled Hacking, Why Not, urges Muslims to wage invade the websites of US companies.

Muzadi called for the book's banning as part of an effort by Islamic religious leaders in Indonesia to combat the recruitment of Islamic militants, announced earlier this month after police discovered a video in which a masked man, believed from his accent to be Noordin Top - considered one of the top figures in recruiting and training terror operatives for the al-Qaeda linked Jemaah Islamiyah (JI) group.

The video, found in what police believe was a recently-abandoned Top hideout in Central Java province, warned Britain, Italy, Australia and America that they will be "the target of our next attack". Muzadi backed the government's decision not to air the video, saying:" Young people could follow them."

The taskforce, comprising the progressive 30-million member Muhammadiyah movement, as well as the more conservative Nahdlatul Ulama, is likely to track terror suspects, scrutinise Islamic publications that promote Muslim extremism, and put these on a list of banned publications. It is also expected to start its won publication aimed at promoting peaceful, tolerant Islam.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 11/24/2005 00:26 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


JI has thousands of potential troops
Indonesian officials have begun leaking to the media their fears that thousands of Indonesian Muslim militants have infiltrated cities in Java and West Sumatra.

Two Indonesian intelligence officers speaking on condition of anonymity said that the militants had received training and combat experience in Afghanistan, the Philippines, Sri Lanka and Libya.

Indonesian intelligence is attempting to ascertain if the militants have any direct links to the Jemaah Islamiyah network headed by Malaysians Azahari bin Husin and Noordin Mohamed Top.

Antara news agency reported that the chairman of Indonesia's Muhammadiyah organization recently stated that 3,000 former Afghanistan guerrillas had been recruited since 1980 to wage jihad in Africa. The two intelligence officers said that 5,000 Indonesian Muslim jihadists had trained abroad.

Washington is increasingly recognizing Indonesia, the world's largest Muslim nation, as an essential ally in the war on terror. On Wednesday Washington lifted its arms embargo on Indonesia, imposed in 1999 following Indonesian army excesses in East Timor.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 11/24/2005 00:25 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Keep your friends close and your enemys closer?
Posted by: 49 pan || 11/24/2005 9:52 Comments || Top||

#2  More or less. There's been a lot of caterwauling from the usual suspects about Indonesia's human-rights record when the arms embargo was lifted. Funny how the same suspects manage to stay silent about schoolgirls getting beheaded, or churches and their congregations getting wiped out.
Posted by: Pappy || 11/24/2005 12:59 Comments || Top||


Filippino soldier killed in Sulu by Abu Sayyaf
A SOLDIER was killed in a clash with members of the al Qaeda-linked Abu Sayyaf group in Sulu province, about 950 kilometers south of Manila, officials said.

Officials said the soldiers were tracking down the Abu Sayyaf when they ran into a group of militants, and a firefight ensued in the remote village of Kagay, in Indanan town.

"One soldier was killed and a still undetermined number of gunmen are dead in the fighting," said Maj. Gamal Hayudini, the Southern Command information chief.

He said the Abu Sayyaf gunmen were under Albader Parad and Umbra Jumdail Gumbahali, who are both included in Manila and Washington's terror lists.

In Zamboanga City, Lt. Gen. Edilberto Adan, head of the Southern Command, said the operation against the Abu Sayyaf is relentless.

"Our troops have intensified the hunt for Parad and Gumbahali and other known terror leaders, who are implicated in the series of bombings and kidnappings in the island," he said.

On Monday, two soldiers were wounded in an Abu Sayyaf ambush in the village of Dayuan in Maimbung town, south of the island.

Security forces were battling the Abu Sayyaf in Indanan and Panamao towns,
but officials said Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF) rebels were aiding the militants.

About 200 Abu Sayyaf gunmen have splintered into smaller groups and are now scattered in Jolo's mountain areas, where MNLF rebels are known to operate.

Hostilities erupted after the Abu Sayyaf attacked a military post November 11 in Indanan and the fighting spread to many villages.

The military said five soldiers and dozens of Abu Sayyaf gunmen were killed in the fighting since last week. And that more than 2 dozen soldiers were wounded in the clashes.

The fighting forced more than 2,500 people to flee their homes in Jolo for fear that they would be caught in the crossfire or held hostage by gunmen.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 11/24/2005 00:24 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Get them Adan. Jolo is a dark island and needs the ASG removed.
Posted by: 49 pan || 11/24/2005 9:23 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
US marines Locked in battle With Syrian Forces
DEBKAfile Exclusive: US Marines are locked in battle with Syrian troops after crossing the border from Iraq into Syria at a point west of al Qaim

November 25, 2005, 12:27 AM (GMT+02:00)

Both sides have suffered casualties. US soldiers crossed over after Damascus was given an ultimatum Thursday, Nov. 24, to hand over a group of senior commanders belonging to Abu Musab al Zarqawi’s al Qaeda force. According to US intelligence, the group had fled to Syria to escape an American attack in Mosul. Syrian border guards opened fire on the American force.

I wondered when Assad would cross the line .... the Iraqi elections are coming up and Zarky boy's forces ARE going to be rounded up prior.
Posted by: Omavilet Ebbatle7040 || 11/24/2005 17:54 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It is so difficult to express much enthusiasm over our troops entering into additional danger. Especially so on this day of national Thanksgiving. That America's guardian warriors have elected to undergo the peril of opening another front garners my highest respect and regard. Syria's constant meddling and fomenting of terrorist activity merits the harshest of punishment. I can only hope that our brave Marines are providing these treacherous Syrian maggots with a vivid lesson in what happens when they flaunt those who carry forward with the might of true moral authority.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/24/2005 18:17 Comments || Top||

#2  No confirmation from other sources (but I hope its true).
Posted by: phil_b || 11/24/2005 18:31 Comments || Top||

#3  If it's true, I still think that our forces should be going east, not west.
Posted by: Mizzou Mafia || 11/24/2005 18:59 Comments || Top||

#4  mixed emotions. I truly want to see the source of most of the al anbar to baghdad terror exterminated. But we better be ready to stay the course once we go in.
Posted by: anymouse || 11/24/2005 19:01 Comments || Top||

#5  I really enjoy Debka and I often go to this very fine if sometimes perplexing website, but I would prefer to have confirmation of this by other mainstream sources, cf. the "false start" of OIF by the same Debka... bottom-rock credibility is not really their forte.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/24/2005 19:09 Comments || Top||

#6  Agreed.
Posted by: lotp || 11/24/2005 19:21 Comments || Top||

#7  I doubt the Marines would cross into another country, however deserving, without the White House first announcing it.
Posted by: 49 pan || 11/24/2005 19:40 Comments || Top||

#8  The White House may announce it after they return to Iraq. But it may come from Sec Rice not Bush or Rummy.
Posted by: Mahou Sensei Negi-bozu || 11/24/2005 20:16 Comments || Top||

#9  We told the Syrians six months ago that we might be inclined to go on "hot pursuits" after baddies on their territory. All that surprises me is that the Syrian border guards ill-advisedly lit our guys up. I would have expected them to valiantly not look at the ebb and flow. Well, their bad.

Do not cry for the Marines going into Syria. They have been itching to go in there and kick some serious ass for a while now. I'm sure damn near all of them would swap their hot turkey dinner right now for a chance to do some serious hurt on the scumbags that they're chasing.

I also doubt that they don't intend a whole lot of prisoner takin' in the process, either. These Marines are likely in the "blood in the eye" mode, and fully intend to smite them "from Dan unto Beersheba".

The big question is what the Syrian army and paramilitaries are going to do, if anything.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/24/2005 20:22 Comments || Top||

#10  Good luck, God bless, and Kick Ass!
Posted by: Whiskey Mike || 11/24/2005 20:31 Comments || Top||

#11  What will Cindy Sheehan say?
Posted by: Captain America || 11/24/2005 21:21 Comments || Top||

#12  I doubt the Marines would cross into another country, however deserving, without the White House first announcing it.

We have humans for soldiers not terminators. Watching their men take crap and casualties while Muhammod shuffles back across some 'line' will only last so long before someone says F_it and does a hot pursuit across the border. You really think the pols or administration wants an investigation which reveals that the men have been told to die and do nothing really to stop it. That'll create a backlash against the war bigger than Cindy could ever dream of.
Posted by: Slolump Phush9589 || 11/24/2005 22:03 Comments || Top||

#13  If this is true, and that's a big file, going west is the right direction, not east. Syria is rotten to the core, it's nearly ostracized in the international community, and Pencil-Neck doesn't have much of a natural power base other than his thug-cronies.

Whereas, Iran is one big, big, big place, and while we'd like to think that the young generation there is sympathetic to us, we don't know. The Iranians haven't been stupid and they haven't been asleep, so they've been figuring out what to do if we were to come across the border. It's not the kind of fight we want to have.

Knock over Syria, whether with a stiletto from the inside or with a war-hammer from the eastern border, and you solve a lot of problems. The various Paleo terrorist groups depending on Syria become at risk. The Lebanese breathe easier. The Israelis breathe easier. You consolidate a fair part of the Levant, and that's all to the good. As an added bonus, now the Iranians really are alone, and you've just brought them down in the world by whacking their client-state.

Plus the Saoodis become even more nervous.

It goes without saying, of course, that we'd have to be very careful and smart about world opinion, and we'd have to be very quick. Having some sort of government-in-exile or in waiting is a necessity, because we don't want a prolonged occupation and new insurgency.

Just some tryptophan-induced happy thoughts :-)
Posted by: Steve White || 11/24/2005 22:07 Comments || Top||

#14  Just some tryptophan-induced happy thoughts :-)

And happy thoughts they are.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/24/2005 22:16 Comments || Top||

#15  The bad: this might increase the political pressure in Washington to withdraw from Iraq.

The good: the only way we win this war is to make it bigger. Our mistake in Vietnam was not relentlessly bombing the Ho Chi Minh trail. Giap told us that. Nixon called off the bombers because it went through a neutral country (which wasn't doing anything to stop the flow of munitions), and the hippies were revolting in the streets. Then the South Vietnamese and us lost.

The same thing will happen in Iraq too unless we take out Syria. Even the NYT printed a few days ago a sentence that stated that munitions flow through Syria, cold fact. We've got to knock over Bashar Assad, set up a friendly government, and let the Arabs figure out which way the wind is blowing.

If we take Syria down fast and hard enough it will be within the Congressional mandate to act in Iraq, under hot pursuit, and Congress could only whine for the two weeks it takes. Then we've already won.

As for Iran, it's got 75 million people and lots of mountainous territory, the Caspian Sea (escape hatch to Russia), and all kinds of headaches we don't need. If we get Iran to make Europe angry enough though they'll do Iran with us.
Posted by: Those Wholurong9582 || 11/24/2005 22:22 Comments || Top||

#16  One more thing.

God bless the U.S. Marines!
Posted by: Those Wholurong9582 || 11/24/2005 22:24 Comments || Top||

#17  I can't find ANYTHING ANYWHERE to back this up, lol.

One thing is certain, there's an ROE and it is being followed to a "T". Ain't no cowboy yayhoos in this Army, just rock-solid disciplined people of the first water. If the ROE sez they can rock 'n roll in hot pursuit, then they will if it serves their mission. But I seriously doubt this report without beaucoup corroboration.
Posted by: .com || 11/24/2005 23:25 Comments || Top||

#18  No mention from Big Three or CNN or MSNBC or FNC yet here in Guam - China's Bird Flu probs, however, is getting clear footage of Chinese towns, cities, and rivers mired in glorious massive Commie enviro-incorrect pollution, trash heaps, ... and kiddies getting sick just by merely breathing in the air. Wid trash heaps like these, who needs Sino-Russian BioWar/Chemwar factories andor labs blowing themselves up!?
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 11/24/2005 23:25 Comments || Top||

#19  I second Steve's comment.

We should go after Iran's client Syria first to isolate Iran. Sending significant numbers of troops ino Iran is likely to alienate the younger Iranians who otherwise look favorably on the US. Besides we do not have the troops to occupy that country, the current President is making the Mullah's look moderate by comparison and he may even be scaring the Europeans into a semi-coherrent Iran policy.

If Iran is isolated we can both pressure them and even possibly get them to cooperate with us. If you're willing to dream hard enough, it's possible to envision a day when the US and Iran are putting pressure on the Soddies and the Paks. Defeating Syria and Hezbollah is a necessary step towards this logical re-alignment.

I doubt Assad will make it to next Thanksgiving. His father was a lot better dictator than he is and had several advantages including Soviet backing and a first generation regime that was freshly purged.

I believe we've had some clashes with Syrian border guards in the past and this sounds similar. I do think the time might come when we ratchet the pressure up a notch on Assad by announcing that we will cross the border whenever we think he's harboring somebody we want. I would would think the Iraqi government would issue that ultimatum if we want to make it public.

I think the American public would strongly favor us going after enemy sanctuaries in Syria. There are precious few hippies left and Bush is not Nixon. The current poll numbers reflect biased reporting, weariness with the daily reports of IED and rocket attacks killing our people and poor communications by the White House. As noted, the press admits what Syria is doing and crossing the border to stop it is a way to break the daily cycle.
Posted by: JAB || 11/24/2005 23:27 Comments || Top||

#20  Everyone should chill out if this is true we are not taking Syria down if so these reports would be of massive air raids across Syria.

This is border battles maybe a hot pursuit were either going in or out the SOF engadged Syrian regualars and had to call in backup. This will do many things tighten the screws so hard Bashir's skull just craked from pressure. This has been going on for awhile just sounds like the first time a engagement big enough to require some heavy fire power with Syrian regulars. Sounds good to me.
Posted by: C-Low || 11/24/2005 23:44 Comments || Top||

#21  wow. Had to wipe off the keyboard after reading the headline. Great comments. It's almost midnight in DC, I can't wait to see what the official statements will be.

If true, it's not like we didn't see it coming one step at a time.
Posted by: 2b || 11/24/2005 23:47 Comments || Top||


Israel drops anti-Hezbollah tracts in Lebanon
BEIRUT - Israeli aircraft scattered propaganda tracts over Beirut, its suburbs and south Lebanon on Wednesday to warn of the dangers the Jewish state said the Shia militant group Hezbollah posed to Lebanese people.

Intruding into Lebanese airspace earlier, Israeli planes flooded the capital and nearby districts with thousands of pamphlets. In the southern port city of Tyre, Lebanese police said three Israeli helicopters ejected large packets of the tracts which floated down on parachutes. “Hezbollah brings a strong prejudice to Lebanon. It is an instrument in the hands of its Syrian and Iranian masters. The state of Israel is watching over the protection of its citizens and sovereignty,” the leaflets read.
"Mess with us and you're gonna git it!"
The propaganda assault followed fierce clashes on Monday between Hezbollah and Israeli troops in which four terrorists militants from the Islamic movement were killed and 11 Israeli soldiers were wounded.

The Lebanese military, in a statement on Wednesday, said ”Israeli combat planes at dawn dropped tracts on Beirut, Mount Lebanon and Lebanon, signed “The State of Israel’ which (seek to) raise spirits against the resistance (Hezbollah). “This act shows the aggressive intentions on the part of the Israeli enemy which has recently intensified its violations by air, sea and land,” the military said.
Which begs the question: did you get the message?
People living on Beirut seafront and in the southern suburb, a stronghold of Hezbollah, found leaflets in the streets outside their doors. Addressed to “Lebanese Citizens”, the tracts ask: “Who is protecting Lebanon, who lies to you? Who throws your sons into a battle for which they are not prepared? Who wants the return of destruction?”
Oh, enough about Pencil-Neck already!
Posted by: Steve White || 11/24/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Related, check this out:

Link
Posted by: jules 2 || 11/24/2005 0:16 Comments || Top||

#2  Would some kind Mod please restore the formatting this link blew?

Here's the www.tinyurl.com replacement:
http://tinyurl.com/dagty
Posted by: .com || 11/24/2005 10:20 Comments || Top||

#3  Looks okay now.
Posted by: Pappy || 11/24/2005 13:00 Comments || Top||


Africa: North
Morocco charges 18 al-Qaeda suspects
A Moroccan prosecutor on Thursday charged 18 people whom police rounded up in Rabat and Casablanca this month as alleged members of a terrorist network being set up with suspected Al Qaeda links.

Hussein Houdaya, one of the north African kingdom’s leading anti-terrorist attorneys, initially checked the identities of the 18 men and then told them of the various charges against them at a court in Sale near the capital, a judicial source said.

Police detectives showed up at the court openly carrying sealed bags of evidence against the men, who were brought from Casablanca to Sale in two armoured police buses, an AFP correspondent witnessed.

Details of the charges were not made public but a judicial source said the suspects were presented to an examining magistrate probing the case immediately after the hearing.

Announcing the arrests last Sunday, police said the network was ”linked to the radical Islamic movement having connections with small groups emerging at the Iraqi border and maintaining close ties with senior members of the Al Qaeda organisation.”

The detention period prior to Thursday’s court appearance had been extended for 96 hours twice and a defence lawyer, Abdelfettah Zahrach, said the aim was to help police “complete their inquiries.”
Posted by: Dan Darling || 11/24/2005 12:54 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  try'em, convict 'em, execute them.
Posted by: anymouse || 11/24/2005 13:25 Comments || Top||


Syrian al-Qaeda attempting to revive Moroccan branch
Al Qaida operatives based in Syria have sought to restore an Islamic insurgency network in Morocco.

Moroccan security sources said Al Qaida has helped organize local cells with ties to Islamic insurgency movements in Europe and Syria. The sources said the effort was meant to restore the Al Qaida network damaged by the arrest of more than 5,000 people in 2003 in wake of coordinated suicide strikes in Casablanca.

In November, the sources said, Moroccan intelligence agencies discovered an attempt by Al Qaida to restore its network in Casablanca and Rabat. They said authorities identified and arrested 17 Islamic insurgency operatives with links to Syria.

"The Moroccan security services have just dismantled a terrorist structure as it was being formed," a Moroccan government statement said. "I was composed of 17 elements linked to the radical Islamic movement having connections with small groups emerging at the Iraqi border and maintaining close ties with senior members of the Al Qaida organization."
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Afghanistan-Pak-India
Salem fears getting whacked by Dawood Ibrahim's mobsters
Abu Salem, one of India's most wanted men, an alleged mobster suspected of terrorising Bollywood and plotting bombings that killed hundreds, told a court on Wednesday that he was worried he might be murdered by Mumbai's mafia for spilling secrets.
Police hope interrogations of the underworld figure may provide information about his network and another alleged Indian mobster, Dawood Ibrahim, accused by US officials of having Al-Qaeda ties.

On Wednesday, Special Judge PD Kode ordered Salem, who was extradited last month from Portugal after more than a decade on the run, to be held until his next hearing on December 7 and instructed police to increase security at the prison where he is being jailed. Salem also told the judge he feared being tortured by police during questioning.

"There is a threat to my life from the underworld," Salem said. "I fear being tortured by the police."

Salem, who was arrested in Lisbon, Portugal, in September 2002, is a prime suspect in 1993 bombings that struck BSE along with trains, hotels and gas stations, killing 257 people and wounding more than 1,100.

Police also suspect Salem in several high-profile killings, including attacks on Hindi film personalities, extortion and the 1997 murder of Indian music industry czar Gulshan Kumar. Salem is facing charges of committing a terrorist act, criminal conspiracy and supplying arms and ammunition. He could face life in prison if convicted.

The Mumbai bombings are believed to have been revenge attacks for the December 2002 demolition of the 16th-century Babri Masjid. The incident triggered riots that killed at least 2,000 people, mostly Muslims.

Salem is alleged to have planned the bombings with Ibrahim, who now reportedly lives in Pakistan, though Pakistani officials deny he is in the country.

Police say Salem fled India after the Mumbai blasts, but he says he left to elude other Indian mobsters chasing him over unpaid debts.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 11/24/2005 00:10 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "There is a threat to my life from the underworld," Salem said. "I fear being tortured by the police."

Salem, who was arrested in Lisbon, Portugal, in September 2002, is a prime suspect in 1993 bombings that struck BSE along with trains, hotels and gas stations, killing 257 people and wounding more than 1,100.


You kill and wound how many people? Then you piss and moan about your fears of police torture? How about I buy you a tall cool refreshing foamy glass of STFU?
Posted by: Zenster || 11/24/2005 1:37 Comments || Top||

#2  Zenster - make it ten-year-old battery acid, ice-cold, and make sure he chugs it. From what I understand, it does a marvelous job.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 11/24/2005 15:07 Comments || Top||

#3  I like the way you think, Old Patriot!
Posted by: Zenster || 11/24/2005 16:46 Comments || Top||


Body of Kidnapped Indian Engineer Found
Afghan police yesterday found the decapitated body of an Indian man whom Taleban insurgents said they had kidnapped and executed, a provincial official said. The body of the engineer, who had been working on a road project, was found on a dirt road in the southern province of Nimroz, said Mohammad Hashim, a district chief in the province. “Police have found the body of the Indian national and I can confirm that he has been killed,” Hashim said. The young man had been beheaded, according to Amanullah Khan, chief of highway police in the province. The head had been placed with the body and a note found, apparently written in English Khan said.

Strongly condemning Kutty’s murder, Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said in a statement: “I condemn this cowardly killing and brutal murder of a brave Indian who was working in the cause of peace and development far from his home and country, which reflects the cruel and inhuman character of the Taleban and the forces they represent.”
Posted by: Fred || 11/24/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Taleban = the dirt, stone & goat civilization.
Posted by: Red Dog || 11/24/2005 1:18 Comments || Top||

#2  I prefer using infestation to civilization when referring to IslamoNutz, myself, heh. :-)
Posted by: .com || 11/24/2005 9:52 Comments || Top||

#3  i retract my 1st comment.

1)stone is a beautiful thing.

2)Dirt can speak for itself..we need you dirt.

3) Goats are actually cute! [hey! not in a begat Biblical way though, youse dirty minded]

Talliban = a throwback anti-civilization
Posted by: Red Dog || 11/24/2005 12:00 Comments || Top||

#4  Pak behind Kutty killing, say officials

Nilova Roy Chaudhury and Sutirtho Patranobis

New Delhi, November 23, 2005

The Taliban may have killed Maniappan Raman Kutty, a driver with the Border Roads Organisation, but they are believed to have acted at the behest of their Pakistani patrons. Over India’s role in the construction of the Zaranj-Del Aram highway in Afghanistan.

A senior Afghan government official says, “It was not to Pakistan’s liking that India was helping to construct this road (the Zaranj-Del Aram highway). Obviously, they would try to disrupt the project.”

Senior officials in Kabul and New Delhi even say this was the major reason why Kutty was kidnapped and subsequently killed. “The Taliban has always been backed by Pakistan,” said an official. An analyst said: “They wanted to send a message: that the road should not be built.”

The 218-km road from Del Aram to Zaranj will shorten the distance from Kabul to the port of Chah Bahar (Iran) and on to Central Asia by about 1,000 km. While facilitating India’s access to Central Asia, the project will reduce Pakistan’s importance for both Afghanistan and India. Pakistan has the only available route for trade with the Gulf region and Central Asia.

Outraged by the "cowardly and brutal murder of a brave Indian", Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said on Wednesday the act reflected the "cruel and inhuman character of the Taliban and the forces they represent". Kutty had "given his life as a soldier for peace", said the PM, adding that he was "deeply grieved and outraged" by the killing.

Later in the day, Afghan President Hamid Karzai called Singh to condole Kutty's killing and assured him of enhanced security for all Indians working on projects in Afghanistan.

Rakesh Sood, India's ambassador to Afghanistan, told the Hindustan Times that Kutty's body will be sent back to India on Thursday.

There was speculation that, given the state of the body (Kutty was tortured, his throat slashed and he was "almost decapitated", an official said), his body might not be sent back to his native Kerala.

According to official sources in Afghanistan, villagers in Nimroz province recovered Kutty's body, half buried in sand, and informed authorities, as it was "not an Afghan-looking person".

Kutty, 36, had been in Afghanistan less than a fortnight. He was one of 290 Indians engaged in the construction of the highway project. Abducted on Saturday along with an Afghan worker and two security guards, Kutty was killed on Tuesday by the Taliban, who wanted work on the road project suspended.
Posted by: john || 11/24/2005 15:57 Comments || Top||

#5  LOL! Not in a begat way.

Ima have gurls say that to me some times.

Half, Ima luv you but not in a begats sorta way. Savy?
Posted by: HalfEmpty || 11/24/2005 17:56 Comments || Top||


Kashmir Korpse Kount
SRINAGAR, India - Indian police and troops on Wednesday killed four terrorists militants, two of them during an attack on a police camp in Kashmir, as terrorists rebels rejected an offer of assistance if they shun violence. “Two terrorists militants opened fire and hurled grenades at our camp with an intention to storm in. We have killed both of them,” federal police spokesman R.K. Singh said in Srinagar, the summer capital of Indian Kashmir.

Singh said one was killed before he could storm the roadside camp housed in a disused cinema hall. “The second terrorist militant was killed as soon as he managed to enter our camp,” said Singh. “We neutralised both terrorists before they could inflict heavy losses on us,” he said, adding that one policeman was wounded in the initial attack.

The gunshots and grenade explosions caused panic among civilians in the Hawal locality of downtown Srinagar.
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Happy Thanksgiving
Happy Thanksgiving to all Rantburg readers.

A special thank-you and the warmest thanksgiving to the men and women who will be cold and lonely today while defending our country. We will always remember what you do for us.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/24/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  And a special thanks to Fred and all the editors that keep the 'Burg going strong. Happy Thanksgiving to all.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 11/24/2005 0:08 Comments || Top||

#2  Have a happy and safe Thanksgiving all RBers. reflect on what's important and the many things we all have to say thank you for, especially those who put themselves in harm's way on our behalf
Posted by: Frank G || 11/24/2005 0:19 Comments || Top||

#3  dittos and tx to the bird.
Posted by: Red Dog || 11/24/2005 1:15 Comments || Top||

#4  Best wishes to all here at Rantburg on this day of thanks. Especially to America's warriors who give their all for our liberty, but also to Rantburg's own Fred, whose respect for freedom of speech is simply breathtaking.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/24/2005 1:47 Comments || Top||

#5  Here's an interview with the Marines on the front lines. Their fondest wish: a hot meal.

I am SO not worthy.

Happy Thanksgiving, all.
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/24/2005 1:50 Comments || Top||

#6  Many thanks to God,our warriors who volinter to put themselves in harms way for our well being, and many thanks to Fred,wno's site Rantburg filled a void in my life I didn't know I had.
Posted by: raptor || 11/24/2005 6:03 Comments || Top||

#7  Words like Honor,Dignity,Class are so inadequate to describe our Gallant Warriors.
Posted by: raptor || 11/24/2005 6:11 Comments || Top||

#8  Thanks to all hospitable Americans, Texans and Rantburg Citizens and Volunteers.
Posted by: SwissTex || 11/24/2005 6:40 Comments || Top||

#9  A very special thanks to Fred and all rantburgers!!!! Happy Thanksgiving.
Posted by: 2b || 11/24/2005 9:48 Comments || Top||

#10  Happy Thanksgiving...
Posted by: Adriane || 11/24/2005 10:11 Comments || Top||

#11  HAPPY THANKSGIVING !!!
Posted by: Poitiers-Lepanto || 11/24/2005 11:48 Comments || Top||

#12  Happy Thanksgiving to all RB'ers, especially Fred. Most of all, thanks to our brave soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines. I and my family are in your debt. Thank you for the safety that you provide. Each and every one of you are an inspiration to me.
Posted by: remoteman || 11/24/2005 12:24 Comments || Top||

#13  Happy Thanksgiving to the entire Rantburg family.
Posted by: Pappy || 11/24/2005 12:44 Comments || Top||

#14  Happy thanksgiving to all! Cheers!
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/24/2005 13:18 Comments || Top||

#15  Happy Thanksgiving to all -- to the Rantburgers who read, ponder and post; to Fred who provides this wonderful space, and his moderators who guard its reaches; to all those here and abroad who understand the importance of fighting the this war, and those who will yet come to understand; and to the warriors in all branches of the Service, who guard against those who wish Freedom ill. Many tryptophans to the good guys, and a lack thereof -- followed by useful confessions -- to the bad guys. ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/24/2005 13:34 Comments || Top||

#16  God has been especially good to the Old Patriot family this year, and will receive our grateful thanks not only throughout the day, but day by day, as long as we live. Thanks too, for those that serve this nation and its people by being deadly to its enemies, and tender with its friends, wherever they are serving. Special thanks to Fred and Rantburg, where I can find a bit of sanity in an insane world, and people I feel are my neighbors and friends. For those Rantburgers who are not US citizens, I extend my special thanks for your presence and insight here. Consider yourself "part of the family", and join us in thanksgiving and joyful prayer.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 11/24/2005 15:03 Comments || Top||

#17  Happy Thanksgiving:

To the men and women of the armed services and National Guard, who sacrifices can never be repaid and must always be remembered

To loving parents whose devotion and sacrifices have made our lives better

To true friends who keep us strong and surround us with love

To Rantburgers, who are fighting the valiant fight of celebrating America's goodness and keeping the heat on radical Islam's evil.

I am grateful.
Posted by: jules 2 || 11/24/2005 16:36 Comments || Top||

#18  Happy Thanksgiving ...
Posted by: QuietRantfan || 11/24/2005 16:59 Comments || Top||

#19  Thanks to everyone here at Rantburg, especially Fred.

And thanks to all the members of our armed forces, past and present, for all they have done.
Posted by: Desert Blondie || 11/24/2005 17:07 Comments || Top||

#20  Thanks to you for providing a great site. Have a great Thanksgiving. Our men and women might be cold but they are not as lonely as in recent wars. They know they have their brothers and sisters in arms with them and a gratefull nation that loves them!
Posted by: 49 pan || 11/24/2005 17:51 Comments || Top||



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