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Britain
Al-Muhajiroun refuses to condemn London bombings, warns of more attacks
Tony Blair met leading British Muslims at No 10 Downing Street today and said afterwards that the Muslim community was agreed on the need to tackle "head on" the problem of extremism in its midst.

The terror summit came nearly two weeks after four young Muslims blew themselves up in co-ordinated suicide bombing attacks on a London bus and three Tube trains, killing at least 56 people.

Mr Blair said all those at the meeting, which included 25 Muslim representatives and business leaders, agreed on the need to help identify and weed out potential terrorists in Muslim communities.

"There was a strong desire from everybody there to make sure that we establish the right mechanisms for people to be able to go into the community and confront this in a serious way," he added.

The meeting is expected to lead to the creation of a taskforce, whose members will be asked to listen to young Muslims across the country, and find out what turns young men leading visibly normal lives into mass murderers.

Shahid Malik, the Labour MP for Dewsbury, where one of the London bombers lived, said as he emerged from the summit: "The feeling was that there is a profound challenge. I think everyone here is up for the challenge. We have to work better at confronting these evil voices, minute as they are in our community."

But before the meeting, two of the country's most controversial Islamic militants said that Muslims should not be sitting down to negotiate with the Government. In an interview with BBC Radio 4's Today programme, Anjem Choudary, leader of the dissolved militant group al-Muhajiroun, refused to condemn the July 7 suicide bombings and gave warning that there was a "very real possibility" of another terror attack in the UK.

"I don’t think one should legitimately sit down and negotiate," Mr Choudary said. "I think the time for talking, quite honestly, is over. Now is the time for action. You can’t sit down and negotiate while you are murdering Muslims in Iraq."

He added: "It is not a question of whether one condemns or condones what took place on 7/7 - 7/7 is a reality. We need to see what caused this particular effect, otherwise we are going to continue in a cycle of blood and I believe another 7/7 is a very real possibility."

Mr Choudary's comments were echoed by Omar Bakri Mohammed, the radical Syrian-born cleric who has been accused of trying to foment hatred in the UK. Although he condemned the July 7 attacks, he said the British people only had themselves to blame because they re-elected Mr Blair despite the Iraq war.

Mr Bakri told the London Evening Standard: "I blame the British Government and I blame the British people. They are the ones who should be blamed. The British Government has said, ‘You are with us or with terrorism’. I don’t think that is the way forward."

Sir Iqbal Sacranie, secretary-general of the Muslim Council of Britain, said that the meeting was "an important listening exercise for the Prime Minister and people across the Muslim spectrum". He added that what was was needed now was a "bit of space" so that no-one "rushed into solutions".

Michael Howard, the Conservative Party leader, and Charles Kennedy, of the Liberal Democrats, also attended. Mr Howard said: "I think the one thing really that comes out most strongly from this meeting is the responsibility of the Muslim community for reaching out to those who have been the targets of the merchants of evil and hatred. We know that they have been targeting young Muslims and filling their minds with their messages of hate."

The three major parties yesterday reached cross-party agreement to rush new laws on to the statute book by December preventing the preparation and incitement of terrorist acts and the training of terrorists.

Longer-term measures also under consideration by the Government include forcing mosques to make criminal record — and possibly police intelligence — checks on any person given unsupervised access to young people.

Schools and children’s homes already have a statutory obligation to make these checks. Many religious groups routinely follow suit, but most mosques and Muslim community centres do not. Ministers are understood to be astonished that no screening is done of imams, officials and volunteers in mosques, who can spend hours talking to impressionable teenagers.

Another area of concern is the role played by more than 100 independent Islamic schools operating outside the state system. David Bell, the head of Ofsted, said in January that such schools were a potential threat to national identity. He called on the Government to monitor their growth to ensure that pupils learnt "the wider tenets of British society", such as "respect for other cultures in a way that promotes tolerance and harmony".

There has been controversy over state-funded Muslim "faith schools". But ministers believe that these are a better way of meeting parents’ desire for an Islamic education, not least because they have to follow the national curriculum and are subject to regular inspections.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 07/19/2005 13:26 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  They could probably clean up a lot of their shit by taking Anjem and Omar out of the picture. Permanently.
Maybe you could find them dead together in bed in some seedy motel? And wouldn't that cause some Muslim heads to explode...
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/19/2005 14:34 Comments || Top||

#2  as ive been saying there aint no mystery who the "problems" imams are. Both the "its a religion of peace, Islam has NOTHING to do with it" crowd, and the "all Islam is evil, the moderates are wolves in sheeps clothing" crowd ignore whats in front of our faces - the jihadi murderers, pretty much without exception ARE always incited by imams at mosques, but by CERTAIN imams at CERTAIN mosques. Maybe it was worth leaving them alone to see who went in. Increasingly, though, i think its time to deal with them.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 07/19/2005 14:45 Comments || Top||

#3  the jihadi murderers, pretty much without exception ARE always incited by imams at mosques, but by CERTAIN imams at CERTAIN mosques.

Still haven't understood that quote, have you?

Go to any mosque in the West (let alone in the Islamic countries) on any Friday and you are sure to hear a litany of woes about how the "cross-worshippers" have allied themselves with the "plotting Jews" in order to destroy Islam, which, as God's final message, is the only true faith.

You will hear how the West is mired in corruption, its womenfolk exposing their midriff in public and its governments sanctioning gay and lesbian marriages. You will also hear how "the Crusaders" have invaded Muslim lands and are trying to impose their democratic system on Afghanistan and Iraq.

Such a discourse might leave most Muslims indifferent or even annoyed. But it is enough for it to seduce even 1 percent of the world's Muslims — that is to say a cool 13 million people — for everyone to be in trouble.


How do you know what goes on inside mosques more than Amir Taheri does?

Yeah, maybe there are some identifiable "finishing schools", but clearly the groundwork is laid long before then.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 07/19/2005 14:55 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Caucasus Corpse Count now at 15
Around 15 people were killed and more than 20 injured on Tuesday when an armoured police carrier was blown up by rebels in Russia's Chechnya.

Itar-Tass news agency quoted local Prime Minister Sergei Abramov as saying 11 policemen and three civilians had died in the blast which left the police vehicle a twisted wreck.

A member of the FSB state security service also died in the attack in the village of Znamenskoye, about 60 km (40 miles) northwest of the regional capital, Grozny, he said.

Moscow has been trying for years to crush a separatist insurgency in mainly Muslim Chechnya. It has most of the region under nominal control, but police and troops still die daily, mainly in Grozny or the remote mountain villages.

President Vladimir Putin blames the war on international terrorists seeking to destabilise Russia, and responded to the blast by demanding quicker moves to close weak spots on the border with the ex-Soviet states of the South Caucasus.

Znamenskoye, like most of Chechnya's low-lying north, has been largely untouched by the war that has raged in the region for a decade, although a suicide bombing killed 59 people in the village in 2003.

"Today a terrorist act was committed ... and as a result people have been killed, people have been injured and people have been seriously injured," said pro-Moscow President Alu Alkhanov in a televised statement.

Pro-Moscow officials were quoted by local agencies as blaming the attack on forces loyal to warlord Shamil Basayev, whom Moscow links to international terrorist groups and is called Russia's most wanted man.

"The tragic events in the Nadterechny region (of Chechnya) show that all we are planning must be done, and must be done quickly," said Putin at a government meeting, referring to plans to both toughen security and boost the economy to try and undermine the rebels' support base.

He has long refused to contemplate a negotiated end to the Chechen war, but his pledges to destroy the rebels are yet to bring an end to the fighting.

A rebel Web site said fighters had fired at the vehicle to attract police, then detonated an explosion to kill them.

"As a result of this explosion the terrorists arriving at the scene were destroyed. There were no losses on the Chechen side. The resistance fighters returned to their base without any particular problems," www.chechenpress.com said.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 07/19/2005 11:25 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Explosion in Chechnya 'kills 13'
At least 13 people have been killed and several injured in an explosion in Chechnya, reports from Russia say. Officials said a police car was blown up in Znamenskoye, about 60km (37 miles) north of the capital, Grozny, after an exchange of gun fire. Chechen President Alu Alkhanov has blamed the attack on separatist rebels led by Shamil Basayev, Russian news agency Itar-Tass reports. The region around Znamenskoye is under the control of Russian forces. In 2003 a truck bomb outside a government compound in Znamenskoye killed at least 60 people and injured many more.
Security forces in the town are hunting for those responsible for the explosion at about 1330 (0930 GMT) on Tuesday, Itar-Tass says. The agency quotes Chechen President Alu Alkhanov, speaking in Znamenskoye, as saying 13 people died in the blast and about were 20 wounded. Police officers and local residents are said to be among those killed. A child who was cycling past when the vehicle exploded also died, the AP news agency quoted Russian officials as saying. Correspondents say that although Russian forces control most of Chechnya, isolated rebel attacks have continued and even spread to neighbouring regions.
Russia's President Vladimir Putin last week visited the southern Russian region of Dagestan, where he urged ministers and commanders to take action to halt violence. At least 10 people were killed in a bomb attack on a truck carrying security forces near the Dagestani capital, Makhachkala, earlier this month.
Posted by: Steve || 07/19/2005 09:27 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:


Europe
The Stench of Suicide Bombers
EFL and WTF?
ONE of the London terrorists bought more than $2000 worth of designer perfume as a deadly napalm-style ingredient in the bombs.

Just three days before the carnage, Jamaican-born Jermaine Lindsay bought dozens of bottles of scent that investigators believe were to make the bombs more flammable.

They included Jean Paul Gaultier, Fahrenheit, Emporio Armani and Boss brands -- all symbols of what Islamist extremists consider the height of Western decadence.

"The effect would be more incendiary, like napalm, rather than highly explosive. It would create more fire and therefore more burn injuries."
Gee, Mamoud, your corpse smells terrific.
Posted by: growler || 07/19/2005 11:20 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Isn't the flamable stuff in perfume simply alcohol? Ah, I see, good muslims can't use alcohol in a bomb.
Posted by: Steve || 07/19/2005 11:45 Comments || Top||

#2  yep, but it tastes like sh*t. Easier to sneak a fifth in...
Posted by: Kitty Dukakis || 07/19/2005 12:38 Comments || Top||

#3  a shahheed should always smell good when he enters jannah and meets mohammid--mo sweated alot during his epileptic fits and was a perfume freak to hide his own personal stench--so was ibn saud--its a desert arab thing
Posted by: SON OF TOLUI || 07/19/2005 13:26 Comments || Top||

#4  AQ modus operandi: thoroughly wash up, put on impeccable neat/clean clothes (expensive), drench w/perfume, unique special prayers, allah akbar, kaboom.

It escapes logic, nontheless Kurds have captured several Euro AQs by monitoring mosques in N. Iraq for these very signs.
Posted by: Red Dog || 07/19/2005 13:33 Comments || Top||

#5  linky haywirey
Posted by: apostate || 07/19/2005 13:38 Comments || Top||

#6  Worked fine for me just now. Try it again...
Posted by: .com || 07/19/2005 13:45 Comments || Top||

#7  WHat kind of perfume did he buy? If it was Chanel, then $2,000 doesn't get you very much. But if it was Hai Karate, you'd need a tanker truck to haul all of it out of there.
Posted by: WhiteCollarRedneck || 07/19/2005 15:10 Comments || Top||

#8  Bravo WCR! That made my day.
Posted by: Classical_Liberal || 07/19/2005 15:27 Comments || Top||

#9  Wonder if they bought any English Lather to givem that rabid look.
Posted by: Shipman || 07/19/2005 16:39 Comments || Top||


Abu Hafs al-Masri Brigades issues ultimatum to Europe
The Al-Qaeda terror network warned European nations to pull their troops out of Iraq within a month or face more attacks like the deadly London bombings, according to an Internet statement.

"This message is the final warning to European states. We want to give you a one-month deadline to bring your soldiers out from the land of Mesopotamia (Iraq)," said the statement signed by Al-Qaeda group the Abu Hafs al-Masri Brigades and dated July 16.

After August 15, "there will be no more messages, just actions that will be engraved on the heart of Europe.

"It will be a bloody war in the service of God," said the statement, the authenticity of which could not be verified.

"It's a message we are addressing to the crusaders who are still present in Iraq -- Denmark, the Netherlands, Britain, Italy and those other countries whose troops continue to criss-cross Iraqi territory.

"These are our last words. The mujahedeen, who are on the lookout, will have other words to say in your capitals."

A statement issued in the name of the "Europe Division" of the same Al-Qaeda group claimed responsibility for the July 7 bombings on London's public transport system which killed at least 56 people and wounded some 700.

The same group also claimed the 2004 train bombings in Madrid and the 2003 attacks in Istanbul.

"After the laudable strikes that have shaken London and the cities of other Crusaders still present in Iraq, we have renewed the ultimatum that we had given," the statement said.

"We give you all one month to reflect carefully on your policy towards Islam and Muslims.

"We're giving you this deadline so that you stop running behind the United States and the Zionists, without paying attention to the blood that has been shed and continues to be shed in the land of Islam -- in Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestine."

The statement came amid intense debate in Britain over the role the 2003 invasion of Iraq played in spurring the four British suicide bombers to carry out the deadly attacks.

In a Guardian/ICM poll published Tuesday, two-thirds of respondents said they saw a link, while three-quarters said they considered further attacks likely.

But the government of Prime Minister Tony Blair has continued to deny that the war left Britain more vulnerable to terror attacks, despite a damning report from the respected think-tank, the Royal Institute of International Affairs.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 07/19/2005 10:11 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Well, Europe, wacha gonna do? Roll over and die, or kick some butt and get your continent back. Ball is in your court.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 07/19/2005 10:49 Comments || Top||

#2  Well, time for europeans to make some choices, mainly, wake up and smell the coffee now or appease and satisfy your curiousity as to what the next set of demands on behalf of a sick "God" might be. It would seem pretty clear that their "God" won't be happy until all are cowed and dominated. AI, HRW and the likes will cry and lament excessively and probably never concede that the biggest organized groups engaged in the systematic violation of human rights is ...? The word never makes the AI annual report does it.
Posted by: MunkarKat || 07/19/2005 11:30 Comments || Top||

#3  I say, time for European groups to issue ultimatums to the various Moslem dictatorships. Would that get reported in the MSM?

E.g.

Pakistan must deliver all LeT leaders and close their madrassas -- OR ELSE!

Iran must abandon its nuclear program and stop making threats against Israel, OR ELSE!

And don't forget: The Umma must stop Moslem terrorism on Western soil, OR MECCA WILL BE NUKED.

Whatever happened to cannon-boat diplomacy?
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 07/19/2005 13:26 Comments || Top||

#4  The declared hudna is just about over then. On the other hand, Europe is pretty much on red alert in response to the 7/7 attack anyway. And, they have been sweeping up bad guys across the continent, so hopefully this will end up to be just more Al Qaeda posturing. (See how we start sentences American-style with "And," Tony(UK)?)
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/19/2005 19:36 Comments || Top||


Germany sets free suspected al-Qaeda financier
Germany on Monday freed a suspected al-Qaeda financier after the country's highest court ruled that the European legislation needed to extradite him was unconstitutional. The ruling on the implementation of the European arrest warrant, one of the European Union's chief tools in the fight against terrorism, threatens to delay extraditions to and from Germany, the centre of many high-profile terror cases.

The ruling by the German constitutional court to free Mamoun Darkazanli, a German-Syrian dual national wanted by the Spanish authorities, could delay extraditions to and from Germany. But the European Commission insisted that the arrest warrant, which came into effect last year as part of the EU's response to the 2001 attacks on the US, would continue to function across the union's 24 other countries and urged Berlin to redress the problem quickly. Michael Rosenthal, Mr Darkazanli's lawyer, told the Financial Times that while he welcomed the ruling it did not represent “a blow to the EU arrest warrant or to EU integration more generally. This ruling is about mistakes made by the German government.” The court ruled that Germany had not put the arrest warrant into law in a way that was compatible with the constitution.
Posted by: Fred || 07/19/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  He's not exactly free, rather out on bail.
He cannot leave the country and I doubt he would want to.
All it takes now is to make the extradition law constitutional and Darkazanli will be extradited to Spain eventually because Germany certainly WANTS that.
Posted by: True German Ally || 07/19/2005 3:20 Comments || Top||

#2  Hrumph..

I reckon nobody has ever skipped bail in Germany.

We'll see.
Posted by: DanNY || 07/19/2005 6:15 Comments || Top||

#3  I predict the next major terrorist attack will be in germany. Every time you throw those cock-gobblers a bone, they stick it up your ass. So, my prophecy is that they get it next. They are just as bad as Britain about coddling those deviates and even worse about letting them off the hook. So reap what you have sown germany.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 07/19/2005 9:07 Comments || Top||

#4  the best thing Germany can do to fight the terrorists is to give the EU the boot. If they let the guy get away, then shame on Germany. But telling the EU to pack sand was a good move.
Posted by: 2b || 07/19/2005 9:27 Comments || Top||


U.S. Supports Turkish Operations Against PKK
The United States was said to have supported Turkey's military operations against the Kurdish insurgency. Turkey's media have quoted members of the Bush administration as encouraging Ankara's current offensive against the Kurdish Workers Party along the border with Iraq. But the U.S. officials did not endorse a Turkish incursion in northern Iraq, where PKK bases were located. The semi-official Anatolia news agency reported that the United States has supported Ankara's drive against the PKK within Turkish territory. A U.S. official was reported as saying that the PKK was a terrorist group. "In the current situation Turkey has the right to take measures to prevent itself from being subjected to a terror campaign," the U.S. official was quoted as saying. "And we have no objection on that."
Posted by: Fred || 07/19/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  And if you were an ally, well then, just think how helpful we could be. But, alas, that's water under the bridge, eh? Stick you nose out an we'll send it back - in a bag. Otherwise, have a nice day!
Posted by: .com || 07/19/2005 0:58 Comments || Top||

#2  The Kurdish insurgency??? where?
Posted by: Rafael || 07/19/2005 1:09 Comments || Top||

#3  Pretty words of diplomats. What this actually says is that the US told Turkey that they better not chase the PKK into Iraq unless they want to deal with us.
Posted by: 2b || 07/19/2005 4:52 Comments || Top||

#4  For those with short-term memory loss, a PKK suicide bomber just blew up in a Turkish resort town full of British tourists over the weekend. I suspect we're doing more than just the minimum this week on the subject of the freakazoid Marxist personality-cult in question. Or maybe not. Whoops.
Posted by: Mitch H. || 07/19/2005 6:54 Comments || Top||

#5  Turkey get the shaft from EU, in slides US.
There must be a buck to be had here.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 07/19/2005 9:20 Comments || Top||

#6  the pkk is a terrorist organization - I don't think anyone would disagree. And they will need to be dealt with in both Turkey and Iraq. But ditto what .com said.
Posted by: 2b || 07/19/2005 9:25 Comments || Top||

#7  The PKK is a murderous band of Marxist thugs who all but worship Abdullah Occalan and live like it's Year 0 in addition to their penchant for suicide bombings. To conflate them with our Kurdish PUK and KDP allies (the former of which has periodically fought the PKK) would be a definite mistake.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 07/19/2005 9:50 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Threat at Tinker
I have no way to verify the reliability of this information.
REAL WORLD REAL WORLD REAL WORLD
TEAM TINKER BATTLE STAFF DIRECTIVE (BSD) BSD # 41
DTG 140825L Jul 05L OPR: ALL SUSPENSE: Upon receipt
SUBJECT: BSD# 40 Amendment

SITUATION: On 14 Jul 05, three individuals were observed outside of the perimeter of Tinker AFB, OK. They were looking through binoculars, taking pictures and one appeared to be holding a large weapon at chest level. The weapon appeared to be aimed towards a low flying aircraft. The three individuals were described as being of Middle Eastern decent and left the area when approached. The weapon was later identified as a rocket launcher (MANPAD) and the low flying aircraft to be a B-1 Bomber. FBI in Oklahoma City and AFOSI determined the threat to be credible. Due to this and other recent incidents and security concerns surrounding Tinker AFB, OK, the potential for suspicious activity in the Tinker AFB (TAFB) Area of Responsibility (AOR) has increased. While there is no specific threat information directed towards the TAFB AOR, it is imperative that all personnel remember their responsibilities to report any and all suspicious activity they observe.
Can't be much, current FPCon at Tinker is Alpha, lowest level.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 07/19/2005 10:50 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  well, they should be interviewing middle-eastern men in OK, right? That's not profiling, that's following evidence
Posted by: Frank G || 07/19/2005 11:02 Comments || Top||

#2  This is news, and interesting. The latest ejaculation from Jihad Unspun is neither.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 07/19/2005 11:04 Comments || Top||

#3  I thought that the B-1's were at Whiteman, not Tinker. I know that at least some of them are at Whiteman.
Posted by: remoteman || 07/19/2005 13:19 Comments || Top||

#4  "left the area when approached"

By whom? Followed?

Most unsatisfactory.
Posted by: .com || 07/19/2005 13:37 Comments || Top||

#5  B2's (Stealth bomber) are based at Whitman. Tinker has AWACS, tankers and Air Logistics Center. Might have been a B1 visiting, don't recall if they still do aircraft maintenance there.
Posted by: Steve || 07/19/2005 13:46 Comments || Top||

#6  Last I heard, Tinker was a major logistics center, and they did depot level work on all the bombers, KC-135 refuelers and such. So there is a lot of valuable hardware flying in and out.
Posted by: ed || 07/19/2005 13:52 Comments || Top||

#7  The two operational bases for the B1 Lancers are Ellsworth, SD and Deyess, TX. Logistics support is provided by Tinker,OK.
Posted by: GK || 07/19/2005 15:02 Comments || Top||

#8  I call bullshit: 3 jihadis show up outside Tinker AFB with binoculars, cameras and a freakin' ROCKET LAUNCHER, and we're not seeing the Mother of All Manhunts from coast to coast and border to border????

Sorry, I ain't buyin' it.
Posted by: Dave D. || 07/19/2005 16:49 Comments || Top||


Report on Boxun there are suitcase nukes ready to explode in USA - Link to machine translation
Posted by: phil_b || 07/19/2005 05:27 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  been alot of this going around lately.
Posted by: 2b || 07/19/2005 5:41 Comments || Top||

#2  If the editors or his Fredness think this is too out to lunch then can it. IMO even the slightest possibility it's true makes it important.
Posted by: phil_b || 07/19/2005 5:42 Comments || Top||

#3  This is wishful thinking by Chinese message board posters. You might think this kind of bloodlust is really strange. I guess by current Western standards it is strange. But the fact is that the Chinese slaughtered over a million of their own people during the Cultural Revolution. This was ordinary people hacking away at the people around them. FYI, Hu Jintao was in one of the winning factions.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 07/19/2005 6:01 Comments || Top||

#4  agonist.org.... hummmmm. LOL, remember when they exploded?
Posted by: Shipman || 07/19/2005 6:50 Comments || Top||

#5  Believe me. If they were here, they'd be going off.
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/19/2005 8:10 Comments || Top||

#6  Ah phooey. "Suitcase nukes" are overrated. First of all, they need tons of sophisticated routine maintenance or they don't work. Second of all, only the most advanced nuclear powers could build them in the first place because their klystron has to be nanosecond accurate and their other materials have to be very high grade. Third, they don't last--their shelf life is short. If AlQ has any such weapons, they are probably pitiful radiation bombs, and low-rent ones at that, capable of dirtying up a block or two for a week or two. There is a basic conflict: source material is either so heavy it just sits on the ground and can be swept or sucked up; or is it so light that it diffuses quickly *and* has a really short half-life. The few medium weight and half-life isotopes are hard as hell to get (for this very reason.)
Posted by: Anonymoose || 07/19/2005 9:51 Comments || Top||

#7  This has been going around the internet since Sept 11. Some new group discovers it, gains hope (or loses hope) and the story is regurgitated into the public realm again, and again, and again.

If they had the nukes they would have used the nukes, its' as easy as that. More likely they thought they had them but Doc sold them pinball machine parts instead.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 07/19/2005 10:40 Comments || Top||

#8  The Norkies are eating grass, robbing graves, and aborting andor stewing children for, well, stew, except fat anti-China = pro-China Kimmie, etal. of course. The Commies, like Radic Islam, have no qualms about waging nuke war WHen it comes to choosing between war or maintaining /losing THEIR power! THEIR POWER IS THE REASON FOR GULAGS, DEATh/RE-EDUC CAMPS, AND BLOODY OR SILENT PURGES AND GENOCIDES. FEEl-GOOD, POPULIST, LAISSEZ FAIRE "EQUALISM", PARITY, INTERNATIONALISM, AND UTOPIANISM IS FOR NAIVE DUPE WESTERNERS, NOT ORIENTALIST CENTRALISTS OR ASIAN COMMIES! The Chicoms are more worried about Japan, etc. dev nukes than Kimmie dev and firing one at Seoul andor Tokyo.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 07/19/2005 22:15 Comments || Top||

#9  Anonymoose:
Good points on the maintenance problem. I would doubt that the heavy duty gaskets required to contain the radiation would have a long effective period. And even slight radiation would render the ignition coils inoperative.

I like Joseph Farah, but his religiosity often takes him in bizarre directions. And most of these doomsday scenarios issue from WND.
Posted by: Vlad the Muslim Impaler || 07/19/2005 22:25 Comments || Top||

#10  Anonymoose:
Good points on the maintenance problem. I would doubt that the heavy duty gaskets required to contain the radiation would have a long effective period. And even slight radiation would render the ignition coils inoperative.

I like Joseph Farah, but his religiosity often takes him in bizarre directions. And most of these doomsday scenarios issue from WND.
Posted by: Vlad the Muslim Impaler || 07/19/2005 22:25 Comments || Top||

#11  Anonymoose:
Good points on the maintenance problem. I would doubt that the heavy duty gaskets required to contain the radiation would have a long effective period. And even slight radiation would render the ignition coils inoperative.

I like Joseph Farah, but his religiosity often takes him in bizarre directions. And most of these doomsday scenarios issue from WND.
Posted by: Vlad the Muslim Impaler || 07/19/2005 22:26 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
MILF attacks Filippino helicopters
Muslim separatists opened fire on two military helicopters on an anti-terrorist mission in the southern Philippines, wounding a soldier, the Philippine military said yesterday.

A Moro Islamic Liberation Front (Milf) spokesman claimed on Friday’s attack forced one of the aircraft to crash-land near the town of Talayan on Mindanao island, but the military denied this.

The two sides had been observing a two year-old ceasefire ahead of peace talks planned in Malaysia later this month.

“Gunfire from the ground” wounded a soldier on board a military helicopter on Friday, and he is now “recovering from his wounds in a hospital,” air force spokesman Lieutenant-Colonel Restituto Padilla told ABS-CBN television.

The helicopter has been brought to a military hangar and “maintenance people are working on it,” Padilla said, denying a MILF account that the aircraft was shot down.
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#1  Looks like the MILF has completed its re-arming and is ready to rock-and-roll again.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 07/19/2005 11:57 Comments || Top||

#2  Yup. Got their check from the Arabs. Hudna's over. Business as usual.

Anyone in Manilla paying attention?
Posted by: .com || 07/19/2005 12:01 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Iranian opposition tracking, killing senior military officers
Iran's opposition is targeting senior officers of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.
Iranian opposition sources said several senior officers of the IRGC have been tracked in major cities, including Teheran. The sources reported the killing of several officers of the IRGC and the Basij militia.
On July 14, an IRGC colonel was stabbed to death in Teheran, Iran's media said, according to Middle East Newsline. The sources said Col. Morteza Moinfar, commander of the Quds Force, was killed by several unidentified assailants.
The Quds Force has been regarded as the foreign intelligence service of the IRGC. The unit has been responsible for aiding Hizbullah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad and Fatah as well as other insurgency groups in the Middle East, Asia and South America.
The IRGC unit was linked to the 1996 bombing of the Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 American soldiers. The force was also said to have been responsible for the killing of dissidents in Europe in the early 1990s.
Iran's media reported that Moinfar was stabbed repeatedly. So far, authorities have not announced the arrest of suspects.
In June, a Basij officer was stabbed to death in the Baghestan area of Teheran. Iranian opposition sources said the officer was attacked by two young Iranians after he threatened them with a pistol.
Iran has also been rocked by Kurdish unrest in the northwestern city of Mahabad. On Monday, an Iranian soldier was killed in clashes with Mahabad residents.
It's not easy being a Sturmabteilung.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 07/19/2005 13:32 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  If you don't have the public support pillar, use the loyal and well paid military to stay in power. Makes perfect sense that the opposition is now attacking that pillar of power as well.
Of course, it is all Rove's fault...
BREWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Posted by: mmurray821 || 07/19/2005 13:48 Comments || Top||

#2  Hmmm, I think the IRGC is more like the SS than the Wehrmacht. In which case this makes more sense than I thought it did. The Iranian opposition isn't going to defeat the Mullahs without the aid of the regular army, and the only thing standing between the regular army and unseating the Mullahs is the IRGC. Demoralize and decapitate the SS and the Wehrmacht can overthrow the Fuehrer. In sum, good for the Opposition. Faster, please.
Posted by: Jonathan || 07/19/2005 14:31 Comments || Top||

#3  The Islamic Revolutionary Guard may be a military organization but it's not part of the Iranian military. The Constitution of Iran gives the Revolutionary Guard [Pasdaran] the responsibility of guarding the Revolution itself. Think of it as a diluted combination of the KGB, SS, and GRU.
Posted by: Pappy || 07/19/2005 14:34 Comments || Top||

#4  The Sturmabteilung were the brown shirts, the SA, political troops of the Nazi party, which is why I compared them to the Revolutionary Guard. Continuing with the analogy, the Iranian Army would be comparable to the Wehrmacht, but there is no clear comparison to the Shutzstaffel, the SS, who started out as an elite army (avg. Masters' degree), which became known as the Waffen SS, or combat SS, to distinguish it from the later dilution of their ranks with the General SS, who were thugs added for the purpose of rear-area einsatzgruppe activities and concentration camp guard duty. The SS were under the command of the Finance Ministry, not the General Staff, which further muddied the waters. In any event, the Revolutionary Guard leaders are now much like the SA, but their rank and file are draftees, so their actual reliability is limited to 2 or 3 brigades that are shuttled around the country as political troops.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 07/19/2005 15:54 Comments || Top||

#5  ... the General SS, who were thugs added for the purpose of rear-area einsatzgruppe activities and concentration camp guard duty.

The closest would be the Baseej (volunteers). The mullahs assigned them to take over internal security in 1995, when the Guard, along with the Army, refused to get involved in putting down riots in Ghazvin. They also have the same function as the Saudi Mutawa'een.

It's a mixed bag: one group established to protect and advance the Revolution. Another to protect the regime. The military to protect the country. The latter two led by those picked from the first group.
Posted by: Pappy || 07/19/2005 19:39 Comments || Top||

#6 
Iranian opposition tracking, killing senior military officers
Works for me.

Can they speed it up a little?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 07/19/2005 22:05 Comments || Top||


Four Palestinians injured in Ain el-Hellhole blast
BEIRUT, Lebanon, July 19 (UPI) -- Four Palestinian refugees were injured in violence between rival Palestinian factions in a south Lebanon camp, security sources said Tuesday. They said a bomb exploded Monday night in the refugee camp of Ain el-Hilweh near Sidon, outside the home of Fatah official Mohammed Issa. Issa's uncle was injured in the incident.
Better luck next time.
Reactions to the bombing continued until Tuesday when gunmen from Fatah and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine clashed in the camp. Three people were injured in the battle.
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#1  Candygram for Mohammed Issa! Candygram for Mohammed Issa!
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/19/2005 9:59 Comments || Top||


Blast heard in Palestinian group's base in Lebanon
A big blast was heard inside a base of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command- (PFLP-GC) in the western Bekaa near the Syrian borders, a security source said. The source, asking anonymity, told KUNA the blast occured in a depot of ammunition of the PFLP-GC. No casualties were reported. He said elements from the Front cordoned off the area. No further details were available. The PFLP-GC is the sole Palestinian group with bases outside the 12 Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon.
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#1  Were any odd gas clouds noticed afterward? Bekaa was, after all, where all those Iraqi trucks went to, just before the invasion.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/19/2005 0:21 Comments || Top||

#2  Hey, Mahmoud? I wonder what this does?
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/19/2005 8:18 Comments || Top||

#3  Assembling bombs, step 8:
Test the timer by setting it to 0:00. Measure the current to be at least 25 mA. But first short out the firing squibs.
Posted by: Jackal || 07/19/2005 8:37 Comments || Top||

#4  The PFLP-GC is the sole Palestinian group with bases outside the 12 Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon.

The PFLP-GC was the sole Palestinian group with bases outside the 12 Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 07/19/2005 9:24 Comments || Top||

#5  Hey, Mahmoud. Was it red wire or green wire ....KABOOM!!!
Posted by: dennisw || 07/19/2005 12:45 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani warns of 'genocidal war'
BAGHDAD, July 19 (UPI) -- The most influential Shiite cleric in Iraq says the slaughter of hundreds of civilians by suicide bombers points to a "genocidal war" threatening the country. Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, who issued the warning, has so far been able to restrain his followers from attacking Sunnis, from among whom the bombers are recruited, Britain's Independent newspaper reported Tuesday. However, sectarian divisions between the Shiites and Sunnis are deepening across Iraq after the recent killing of 18 children in the district of New Baghdad, the report said.
The ayatollah's warning comes amid calls for the formation of militias to protect Baghdad neighborhoods. Against the wishes of the cleric, some Shiites have started retaliatory killings of members of the former regime, the report said.
Posted by: Steve || 07/19/2005 14:30 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Against the wishes of the cleric, some Shiites have started retaliatory killings of members of the former regime

Retaliation? Or preemption?
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 07/19/2005 14:50 Comments || Top||

#2  Not to be confused with wholesale slaughter of innocent civilians.
Posted by: MunkarKat || 07/19/2005 15:10 Comments || Top||

#3  I have never understood why militias are such something to be avoided in Iraq. Keep them small, regulate them and they're nothing but a neighborhood watch with AK-47s. Obviously a descent into warlordism is not good, but given what's been happening I think it's better to let people protect themselves.
The 1 AK per house rule shows that we get this basic concept.

Am I missing something?
Posted by: JAB || 07/19/2005 20:00 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks & Islam
Qaeda warns European nations to quit Iraq by August 15 or risk attacks
I like that : the Lions of islam threatens the infidels with a few bombs and think they are top dogs. What infuriates me is that if the West would set himself in WWII mode, it would crush all of muslimland in no time. Their only strength in that famous "4th generation warfare" is our own weakness; real threats to the West's survival, barring WMD terror, are cultural (dhimmitude), political and economical (corruption and subversion through oil), and demographical (immigration and population shift)... and all this is rooted in the West's own identity crisis. This new jihad is not a predator, it is a carrion.

DUBAI (AFP) - The Al-Qaeda terror network warned European nations to pull their troops out of Iraq within a month or face more attacks like the London bombings, according to an Internet statement.

"This message is the final warning to European states. We want to give you a one-month deadline to bring your soldiers out from the land of Mesopotamia (Iraq)," said the statement signed by Al-Qaeda group the Brigades Abu Hafs al-Masri and dated July 16.

After August 15, "there will be no more messages, just actions that will be engraved on the heart of Europe.

"It will be a bloody war in the service of God," said the statement, the authenticity of which could not be verified.

"It's a message we are addressing to the crusaders who are still present in Iraq -- Denmark, the Netherlands, Britain, Italy and those other countries whose troops continue to criss-cross Iraqi territory.

"These are our last words. The mujahedeen, who are on the lookout, will have other words to say in your capitals."

A statement issued in the name of the "Europe Division" of the same Al-Qaeda group claimed responsibility for the July 7 bombings on London's public transport system which killed at least 56 people and wounded some 700.

The same group also claimed the 2004 train bombings in Madrid and the 2003 attacks in Istanbul.
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#1 
Posted by: Yosemite Sam || 07/19/2005 12:59 Comments || Top||

#2  LOL YS - that's a new one! Here's another for your collection...
Posted by: .com || 07/19/2005 13:05 Comments || Top||

#3  So does that mean it's OK to stay in Afghanistan?
Posted by: danking70 || 07/19/2005 13:07 Comments || Top||

#4  Amazingly pneumatic egomaniacal claptrap. *golf clap*
Posted by: .com || 07/19/2005 13:10 Comments || Top||

#5  Time to start grading these...

I give it a 7.5 for "bloody war" and "engraved on the heart of Europe".
Posted by: .com || 07/19/2005 13:11 Comments || Top||

#6  HA! Thanks .com!!! Yours was great too!!!
Posted by: Yosemite Sam || 07/19/2005 13:14 Comments || Top||

#7  My gut feeling tells me that these threats are going to work, though. Look for reiterations of troop pull-outs and confirmation of exit dates from the various countries.
Posted by: Rafael || 07/19/2005 13:28 Comments || Top||

#8  These countries should ask what Holy place do they want to lose first. And make a statement that any attacks attributed to them from this point on makes any holy site a target. All we would be doing is playing by thier rules.
Posted by: plainslow || 07/19/2005 13:30 Comments || Top||

#9  Amsterdam is already a muslim city..i wonder what they want to target without hitting their own....
Posted by: Dutchgeek || 07/19/2005 13:31 Comments || Top||

#10  Amsterdam is already a muslim city..i wonder what they want to target without hitting their own....
Posted by: Dutchgeek || 07/19/2005 13:32 Comments || Top||

#11  #8, you're forgetting that these are threats against European countries.
Posted by: Rafael || 07/19/2005 13:52 Comments || Top||

#12  Screw the "holy places", they're just tourist traps. Fine-screen money filters for the rubes. Hit the capitals, where the supposed leaders are. Riyadh, Damascus, Tehran, Cairo...
Posted by: mojo || 07/19/2005 13:53 Comments || Top||

#13  August 15, the day Japan agreed to surrender in WWII after atomic bombs on August 6 and August 9.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 07/19/2005 15:10 Comments || Top||

#14  Good call Mrs. Davis!!
Posted by: Yosemite Sam || 07/19/2005 15:21 Comments || Top||

#15  seems more like AQ logic to go after Japan on that day.
Posted by: 2b || 07/19/2005 15:47 Comments || Top||

#16  It would be so European to pull troops out. The average European is clueless as to the realities. All they are fed is the poop from their state funded TV news and a leftist press thats mired in the 1960s' radical mind set. The message is it is all the fault of the USA and if we don't bother the islamists they will leave us alone and go away. A huge lie.

We need a underground international anti-islamist movement to surpass every attack on our civilization. The threat to take out the centers of funding and religious sites should be real. As long as the defense of our civilizations is left only up to national governments and organizations we will never root out this evil. The politicians are dancing around the problem and not in actuality dealing with it.

AQ should be run to ground and wiped out by now. All these worries about offending some muslims should be no concern. Every last one of them seems to be a passive supporter. So screw them and their cult.
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom || 07/19/2005 16:16 Comments || Top||

#17  @Sock Puppet 0’ Doom...Most Europeans are not clueless as most of us in the urban areas are confronted by islam everyday. It's our governments that don't deal with the issue.
Posted by: Dutchgeek || 07/19/2005 16:42 Comments || Top||

#18  Dutchgeek is right. Immigration of moslems and other groups percieved to be a problem is the issue the governments and electorates are most out of step. Opinion polls and other measures show electorates are pverwhelmingly hostile to immigration. The mystery is why this not been reflected in election results or maybe it has and the MSM is just in denial about it.
Posted by: phil_b || 07/19/2005 19:17 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine
J'lem Post selection of the day

Gaza: Fighting breaks out between PA police, Hamas

Five Palestinian policemen and two Hamas operatives were injured in exchanges of gunfire Tuesday morning in the Jabalya refugee camp in the northern Gaza Strip, Army Radio reported.
Get out the popcorn.

IDF kills 2 Islamic Jihad fugitives near Jenin
IDF forces killed two senior Islamic Jihad fugitives in the Jenin area of the West Bank.
Every little bit helps.

Study: Most Israelis want to legalize prostitution
The majority of Jewish Israelis are interested in granting business licenses to prostitutes, a recent study showed.
The study, presented Tuesday in the Knesset by Mina Tzemach, found that 65 percent of Israelis believe that the government should provide medical supervision for the prostitutes.
Two-thirds of those polled expressed a desire to grant licensed prostitutes the same social rights other workers receive, such as sick days and severance packages.
Life goes on.

Sappers blow up explosives near Neveh Dekalim
And Paleos remain Paleos.

Our World: America's democratic terrorists
By CAROLINE B. GLICK
Yesterday Iraqi Prime Minister Ibrahim Jaafari, accompanied by a dozen Iraqi cabinet ministers, rounded off a three-day official visit to the Islamic Republic of Iran. While there, Jaafari met with Iranian arch-dictator Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, outgoing president Mohammad Khatami and president-elect Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
Democracy building?

The Region: What cease-fire?
By BARRY RUBIN
During the five months between the February 8 cease-fire decision by the Palestinians and July 8, Palestinians carried out 812 attacks on Israeli targets. In thousands more cases attacks were disrupted by Israeli arrests, security efforts or defensive operations.
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REMARKABLY, nearly half (47 percent) of the attacks since the cease-fire have been claimed by Fatah, the ruling group in the PA, into whose hands the international community now proposes to place $3 billion in aid.









Posted by: gromgorru || 07/19/2005 08:46 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What's with bolding the titles of the articles you post?
Posted by: .com || 07/19/2005 13:08 Comments || Top||

#2  Thanks, gromgorru. It's nice to get all the good news in one place... although I don't understand why anyone would want to legalize prostitution. Isn't the illegality of it all part of the fun? (No, I don't really want to know the answer -- for this kind of thing I prefer to remain in ignorance!)
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/19/2005 19:48 Comments || Top||

#3  During the five months between the February 8 cease-fire decision by the Palestinians and July 8, Palestinians carried out 812 attacks on Israeli targets. In thousands more cases attacks were disrupted by Israeli arrests, security efforts or defensive operations.

Quagmire! Withdrawal plan! Why do they hate us?
Posted by: Bobby || 07/19/2005 22:13 Comments || Top||


Africa: North
GSPC knocks off some cops
Suspected Islamist militants have killed five security officers in an ambush in western Algeria, said reports on Monday.

Algerian newspaper, Liberte, reported that the five - police officers and forest rangers - were killed when their vehicle came under fire in Ain Defla region, 120km from the capital Algiers.

The group had reportedly been returning from tackling a forest fire.

Eight other officers were injured in the attack on Sunday.
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Afghanistan/South Asia
One of the detained Paks is a JeM explosives expert
Addressing a youth conference in Islamabad, Musharraf said nothing in the Holy Qur’an justified the July 7 attacks that killed at least 55 people.

“Launching bomb attacks in London in the name of Islam is not Islam,” he said.

He accused banned militant organisations Jaish-e-Mohamed (Army of Mohammad) and Sipah-e-Sahaba (Soldiers of Mohammad’s Companions) of forcing their ideology upon others, although he did not link them to the London bombings.

He also took aim at Islamic schools that have been accused of helping to inspire the London attacks. Musharraf himself has been accused of failing to stick to a pledge to rein them in.

“Yes, today, some Chennaisas are involved in extremism and terrorism,” he said.

Religious Affairs Minister Mohamed Ejaz ul Haq said the government is concerned after the London bombings that some madrassas might be violating government rules against preaching militancy.

Those found to have done so would be closed down, he said.

Musharraf’s comments came after an intelligence official named one of five militants detained by security forces at the weekend as Qari Usman, a Jaish-e-Mohamed bomb expert who may have been involved in a plot to kill Musharraf in 2003.

The militants were detained in the central city of Faisalabad as part of a crackdown launched after the London bombings, although no link had been established.

“These people have been arrested because they are militants,” the official said. “We are trying to establish if they had any links with those involved in the London blasts.”

The intelligence official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said Usman was a close associate of Amjad Farooqi, a key planner of a December 2003 attempt on Musharraf’s life and an associate of its Al Qaeda mastermind, Abu Faraj Farj al Liby.

Another intelligence official said other detentions in Faisalabad last week were based on information from Jaish’s Osama Nazir, who was arrested in December for a 2002 church bombing and met London bomber Shehzad Tanweer in Faisalabad in 2003.

Intelligence sources have said Tanweer visited madrassas in Pakistan, possibly including one linked to Jaish, in 2004.
However, some diplomats say any Jaish involvement in the London attacks is still far from clear.

While Pakistan has yet to confirm officially that three of the London bombers, Britons of Pakistani descent, visited Pakistan before the attacks, Pakistani immigration officials said they entered Pakistan via Karachi last year.

They said Tanweer, 22, and Mohammad Sidique Khan, 31, entered Karachi on November 19, 2004 and left for London from Karachi on on February 8, while Hasib Hussain, 18, entered Karachi from Riyadh on July 15, 2004.

The Daily News newspaper reported that Tanweer and Khan stayed at a hotel in Karachi’s central Saddar area for a week before
leaving for Lahore by train.

Pakistani Information Minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmed told reporters Musharraf would address the nation some time this week on the London bombings and the crackdown on militants.
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17 dead hard boyz were all Kazakhs
The Pakistani military said yesterday that 17 militants gunned down near the Afghan border were all from Kazakhstan and included women and teenage youths.

“We now believe the entire group was from Kazakhstan,” military spokesman Major General Shaukat Sultan said.

He said the authorities recovered four passports and some documents and identity cards that indicated they were Kazakhs.
Troops hunting militants with suspected links to Al Qaeda and the Taliban killed the 17 in a clash in the rugged border tribal area on Sunday.

The clash broke out two days after US forces in Afghanistan killed 24 suspected Al Qaeda militants and their Taliban allies on the Pakistani side of the border.

Pakistani troops acting on a tip-off cordoned off a hideout in an isolated complex outside Miranshah, the main town in the semi-autonomous North Waziristan tribal region.

The 17, including women and teenagers, were killed as they tried to break the siege and flee the compound in two vehicles after a shoot-out, Sultan said. One vehicle was knocked out and the other was crippled.

The general said the group included women and youths aged under 20, who also took part in the fighting.

“These people were all trained fighters,” the general said adding that women and young people received training in explosives.

He said local officials and elders had tried for more than two hours to persuade the group to surrender but a gunbattle erupted when they tried to escape in their vehicles.
The women hurled grenades when security forces stopped them, Sultan said.

Troops recovered arms and ammunition, including detonators, explosives and bomb-making instructions. Sixteen locals who had helped the group were arrested.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 07/19/2005 11:02 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  so much for letting the women and "children" go free.
Posted by: Frank G || 07/19/2005 16:19 Comments || Top||


Arrested Pakistanis are HuM members
Police on a tip-off raided Tuesday morning Marora Goth in Sachal police station here and arrested three activists of a banned outfit besides recovering arms cache including bombs and explosives, while the six accused were reported to have escaped from their hideouts.

The accused arrested have made some revealing statements. Police told that following a tip-off to DSP Fayyaz Ali Khan of CID civil lines, a police party raided a hideout near Shaheed Qayyum Magsi Chowk located in Marora Goth in the vicinity of Sachal police station, near Gulistan-e-Jauhar and arrested three accused Mohammad Shoaib, Shakilur Rahman and Sajjad son of Shafaat, while the six accused succeeded to sneak out of the net.

Police say that 3 TT pistols, 3 hand grenades and over 2 kg explosives were recovered from the nabbed accused.

DSP CID, Fayyaz Khan said that the accused belong to banned organization Tanzeem Harkatul Mujahideen, trained in sectarian terrorism and suspected to have links with Al Qaeda group’s Abu Dojana, however, it was yet to be investigated and confirmed.

Meanwhile, a foreign news agency reports the Punjab police chief as saying that officials were trying to find out whether the "London bombings have any tentacles in Pakistan."

"We are holding some militants", said Lahore Police Chief Tariq Saleem to the news agency which adds; that he did not name the suspects or say how many were detained.

Yet, another report says that at least six persons have been captured during a crackdown launched by Police in Punjab against banned extremists organisations.

The Lahore police arrested two criminals when it raided a private hostel in Mazang area identified as Aftab and Hafiz Ishaq.

The police believe them having possible links with the outlawed outfits. Art-of-the-state weapons and objectionable material was recovered from their custody, police said.

At the same time, Khushab police is said to have nabbed at least four extremists belonging to the banned organisations. They were identified as Bashir Ahmed, Hafiz Ismail, Malik Abdul Sattar and Mohammad Nisar, who are not in police custody.

And in London, more than two dozen representatives of the Muslim community, met with British Prime Minister Tony Blair on Tuesday morning.

The community members discussed anti-terror legislation the government plans to introduce by the end of the year, saying they fear the laws may unfairly targeted their community.

Dr. Zaki Badawi, head of the Muslim College said; "We need a partnership between government and Muslims to tell people, they are not being ignored and that their concerns will be heard."
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Paks hold suspects linked to London bombings
Pakistani police on Tuesday said they were holding Islamic militants who may have had links with the suspects in the London bombings, while Prime Minister Tony Blair asked Muslim leaders how to weed out extremists blamed for radicalizing Muslim youth.

In Pakistan, the police chief of an eastern Punjab (search) province town said officials were trying to find out whether the "London bombings have any tentacles in Pakistan, especially in Lahore."

"We are holding a few militants who are suspected of having links to the London suicide bombers," said Lahore Police Chief Tariq Saleem. He did not name the suspects or say how many were detained.

Lahore lies near the border with Pakistan's arch-enemy India. Many militant groups maintain clandestine offices there, and some Al Qaeda operatives have been arrested in the city.

More than two dozen representatives of the Muslim community, meanwhile, met with Blair Tuesday morning.

The community members discussed anti-terror legislation the government plans to introduce by the end of the year, saying they fear the laws may unfairly targeted their community.

"It's fair the government should ask itself whether policies such as those involving the Iraq war have contributed to this," said Dr. Zaki Badawi, head of the Muslim College (search). "We need a partnership between government and Muslims to show people they are not being ignored and that their concerns will be heard."

Elsewhere, British officials on Tuesday investigated whether one of the London suicide bombers used perfume bottles to make his bomb even deadlier.

Detectives are trying to retrace the four bombing suspects' footsteps, including a report in the Daily Mirror that Jamaican-born Jermaine Lindsay (search) — one of the suspects — reportedly bought hundreds of dollars worth of perfume days before the attacks.

Scotland Yard refused to comment.

The metal perfume bottles could have been transformed into shrapnel in the blast. Investigators are still trying to determine what material was used in the four bombs detonated aboard three subways and a bus in the capital. At least 56 people were killed.

At least one person has been arrested in connection with the bombings. The man, whose name has not been released, was detained last week during a series of raids on homes in West Yorkshire, northern England, where three of the suspected bombers lived.

Clues that shed light on the bombings stretch to Pakistan. It appears that Al Qaeda organizers around Europe may also have provided organizational help and could have been involved in other terrorist plots.

Shahid Hayyat, deputy director at Pakistan's Federal Investigation Agency, told The Associated Press that three of the London suspects traveled to Karachi in southern Pakistan last year — suspected bus bomber Hasib Hussain (search), 18, last July, and alleged subway attackers Mohammad Sidique Khan (search), 30, and Shahzad Tanweer (search), 22, in November.

He said the purpose of their trip was unclear "but I know that our security agencies are trying to get such details."

In Britain, pictures of the three men taken by immigration officials at the airport in Karachi were widely printed and broadcast Tuesday.

Pakistani intelligence officials have said Tanweer, born in Britain to Pakistani parents, stayed briefly at a religious school and met with a member of an outlawed domestic militant group. Pakistani agents have questioned students and teachers at the school in Lahore, and at least two other Al Qaeda-linked Islamic centers.

The Times newspaper reported that Pakistani authorities know the identity of a British-born man whom London investigators believe may have masterminded the bomb plot.

"We believe this is where they could have met their mentor," the paper quoted an unidentified Pakistani security source as saying.

News reports have said that a Briton of Pakistani origin suspected of links to Al Qaeda had entered Britain two to three weeks before the attacks and flown out the day before.

If true, "this would indeed be evidence of an enormous failure" of intelligence, said Charles Shoebridge, a security analyst and former counterterrorism intelligence officer.

The Home Office, which speaks for MI5 (search), declined to comment on the suggestion that agents had missed the suspect, whose identity is not known, or on reports that at least one of the suspected suicide bombers was investigated last year by MI5, Britain's domestic intelligence service.

Questions are intensifying over the revelation that MI5 agents reportedly determined that Khan was not a threat to national security and decided against putting him under surveillance after checking him out in connection with an alleged plot to blow up a truck bomb in London.

British intelligence reportedly found that Khan, 30, a teaching assistant at a northeastern England primary school, had visited the home of a man linked to an alleged plot to blow up a London target, possibly a Soho nightclub, with a fertilizer bomb.

In that investigation, known as Operation Crevice (search), detectives arrested eight suspects across southern England and seized half a ton of ammonium nitrate, a chemical fertilizer used in many bomb attacks.

Intelligence bosses face a tricky task in choosing how to allocate their limited resources for tasks like surveillance, Shoebridge said.

Nonetheless, he said, "had the assessment of the available intelligence regarding Khan been different, so might also have been the outcome of July the 7th," when the attackers blew up three London subways and a double-decker bus, killing 56.

John Carnt, a former Scotland Yard detective superintendent with expertise in counterterrorism and covert surveillance, said intelligence agencies are so bombarded with information it can be hard to home in on any one individual.

Khan's "might have been one name amidst many other names, and there may have been nothing else that added weight to it," said Carnt, now managing director of Vance International Ltd., a London-based security and intelligence company. "You've got bits of information coming across your desk. It can be difficult to identify which bit to pay closer attention to."
Posted by: Dan Darling || 07/19/2005 10:47 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Suspected suicide bomber killed in Herat
A suspected suicide bomber died today in the western Afghan city of Herat while attempting to assassinate a local police chief, police said. The unidentified man died in an explosion as he tried to approach the car of Khawja Isa, police chief of the district of Enjil, which is in Herat province near the border with Iran. ''His body is beyond recognition and he was a suicide bomber wanting to kill Isa,'' Nisar Ahmad Paikar, a police official for Herat city told Reuters, adding that Isa was unhurt. The blast happened in the centre of Herat, but did not cause any other casualties or damage, Paikar said. He said an investigation was under way to determine the identity of the attacker.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 07/19/2005 10:19 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Taliban second-in-command among those captured
Pakistani security forces have arrested some suspected Taliban officials in a raid in northwestern Pakistan bordering Afghanistan, police said on Tuesday. Pakistani newspaper reports quoted unnamed officials as saying Mawlavi Abdul Kabir -- a deputy of elusive Taliban chief Mullah Mohammad Omar -- was among those arrested, but senior Pakistani officials said they were unable to confirm this. Police said "a few" suspected Taliban officials were arrested on Saturday night in a raid on an Afghan refugee camp in Akora Khattack, a town around 100 km (60 miles) northwest of the Pakistani capital, Islamabad.
That's that site of Sami's compound, isn't it? And Haqqaniya madrassah, mosque, and arms depot?
"A few people have been arrested who are suspected to be Taliban but their identity has not yet been established," a senior police officer in Akora Khattack said, speaking on condition of anonymity.
"It ain't like they're regulars around here... Nope. Nope. Not them."
Pakistan's Interior Minister Aftab Ahmad Khan Sherpao and Information Minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmad, contacted by Reuters, said they were unable to confirm that the group included Kabir.
That prob'ly means that the final list won't include him.
The Pakistan-based Afghan Islamic Press said unnamed sources had confirmed Kabir's arrest, but Taliban spokesman Abdul Latif Hakimi denied it. "I have also heard these reports," the agency quoted Hakimi as saying. "This morning I contacted friends and some relatives of Mawlavi Abdul Kabir and all of them denied this."
Then his lips fell off, so he went out and cut the heads off some captured Navy SEALs...
Hakimi said in April that Kabir was the head of the Taliban's political commission, which would make him the number two to Mullah Omar. In April, Kabir rejected as baseless reports that he had held reconciliation talks with Afghan President Hamid Karzai's government.
"Nope. Nope. Never happened. Wudn't me."
Kabir served as the Taliban's top military commander in the east of Afghanistan during the group's rule until late 2001.
... when he began drawing unemployment checks...
According to Afghan sources, he played a big role in providing safe passage in 2001 for senior al Qaeda figures, including Osama bin Laden, who had been trapped by U.S.-led forces in the Tora Bora mountains after the Taliban's fall.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 07/19/2005 10:16 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Again this article will be no where to be found on Yahoo and most sources, because wait... ITS ACTUALLY POSITIVE.
Posted by: bgrebel9 || 07/19/2005 12:10 Comments || Top||

#2  good news, Dan, good comments, Fred
Posted by: Frank G || 07/19/2005 13:24 Comments || Top||

#3  ya thinking the pakis are feeling some pressure to get their act together?
Posted by: liberalhawk || 07/19/2005 14:49 Comments || Top||

#4  I'm thinking Al Qaeda and Al Taliban have more deputy commanders than a bank has assistant vice presidents.
Posted by: Dreadnought || 07/19/2005 15:20 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine
Israel kills Jihad activists in West Bank
TEL AVIV, Israel, July 19 (UPI) -- Israeli army troops Tuesday killed two leading members of Islamic Jihad in a clash in the West Bank, Israeli military sources said. The clash occurred in the village of Yammoun near Jenin in the West Bank as the Israeli force conducted "military activities" in the area, the sources said. They said the Israeli troops encircled the house in which the two Jihad activists were staying.
"Come on out, boys. We've got youse surrounded!"
"You'll never take us alive, infidel!'
"Hokay"
When the two failed to respond to calls for them to come out unarmed, the Israelis started to bulldoze the house, the Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported. The militants then stormed out of the house, shooting in all directions, and were gunned down by police.
"What the hell were they yelling, Ari?"
"I don't know, something about Butch and Sundance"

Israel has carried out a series of raids in the West Bank since an Islamic Jihad suicide bomber killed five Israelis
Posted by: Steve || 07/19/2005 10:07 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  activists, huh? Paleo PETA?
Posted by: Frank G || 07/19/2005 16:17 Comments || Top||

#2  Knights Templar of St. Pancake.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 07/19/2005 16:46 Comments || Top||


PA accuses Hamas of attacking police
GAZA, July 19 (UPI) -- The Palestinian Authority accused the militant organization Hamas of an attack Palestinian police in Gaza Tuesday in which nine people were injured. The Palestinian News Agency, WAFA, quoted an official statement as saying that Hamas gunmen in the region of Jabalia surrounded Palestinian policemen and opened fire. "The Palestinian Authority holds Hamas leadership responsible for such acts that undermine our national unity," the statement said.
Posted by: Steve || 07/19/2005 09:57 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ah, popcorn, thank you.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 07/19/2005 14:46 Comments || Top||

#2  It is all because they can't get over that eevvillll wall. The mental anguish is too much to bear!
(/sarcasm)
Posted by: mmurray821 || 07/19/2005 15:52 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
DEBKA sez: Up to 300 British Muslims signed up for suicide missions
Pass the salt:
What the British authorities specifically asked the Pakistani intelligence agency ISI to find out is how many more Muslim volunteers of Pakistani origin are present in the UK ready to carry out suicide bombings in public places for their cause. The death toll from the July 7 underground bus bombings in London rose Monday, July 18, to 56. The British authorities know that three of the four London suicide bombers visited Pakistan last year. Mohammad Sidique Khan and Shahzad Tanweer flew into Karachi together on Turkish Airlines and left three months later on 8 February, 2005. Hasib Hussain arrived in Karachi last July on Saudi Arabian Airlines.

According to DEBKAfile’s special correspondent in Pakistan, British MI5 intelligence service also told Pakistani intelligence that the first two trained in explosives during their visit and were in contact with Osama Nazir, a member of the now outlawed militant outfit, the Jaish-e-Mohammad, which is led by Maulana Masood Azhar. After they landed at Karachi in 2004, the pair traveled to Lahore to attend a Sunni madrassa in the Catt district, then they moved to Faisalabad, where they lived with Osama Nazir at a small religious school in the city.

Nazir allegedly masterminded the March 2002 attack on a church in Islamabad’s high security diplomatic enclave, killing five people including an American diplomat’s wife and stepdaughter. He was also involved in the August 5, 2002 attack on the Murree Christian School, northeast of Islamabad, in which six Pakistani guards were killed, and the August 9, 2002 attack on the Christian Hospital chapel in Taxila, west of Islamabad. Four Pakistani nurses and one of the attackers were killed, while 26 people were wounded in Taxila attack.

During their stay at the Jamia Fatahul Rahermia -- the sources say, Sidique Khan and Shehzad Tanweer were trained in the handling of explosives by Osama Nazir, who headed a group of 24 trained suicide bombers at that time. Sources in Islamabad told our correspondent that the two bombers were controlled by senior al Qaeda operatives in Pakistan after their return to the UK

Nazir was finally captured in Faisalabad on November 16, 2004, after Islamabad offered a two- million rupee reward for his arrest. His was the second important al Qaeda catch in Faisalabad in two years, after Abu Zubaida was arrested there in March 2002 and handed over to the American Federal Bureau of Investigation. In fresh interrogations carried out by Pakistani intelligence after the London bomb blasts, Nazir admitted having met Shehzad Tanweer in 2004. Osama has further claimed that Shehzad stayed with him at the Jumia for religious and spiritual inspiration from its head Qari Ahlullah Raheemi. When questioned, Nazir estimated that over 300 British Muslims of Pakistani origin have been to Pakistan since the 9/11 terror attacks, received training at Jaish-e-Mohammad and Harkatul Mujahideen camps and signed up with al-Qaeda for suicide missions.
Posted by: Steve || 07/19/2005 09:36 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Actually, he may have been accurate. If you had just been through a camp, and they asked everyone if the wanted to sign up to be suicide bombers, they had sure as HELL better sign on the dotted line, or else they would be considered "unreliable". And you know what *that* means. However, on their return to merry old, I suspect that the vast majority have had second thoughts.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 07/19/2005 10:32 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
3 Iraq constitution-writers killed
Gunmen in Iraq have killed three Sunni Arab members of a committee drafting a new constitution, officials say. The three men were shot dead as they left a restaurant in central Baghdad's Karrada district, police sources told the Reuters news agency.
Iraq's president said on Tuesday that a draft of the constitution will likely be ready by its mid-August deadline. The drafting committee was enlarged in July to include more Sunni Arabs, many of whom boycotted elections this year.

Posted by: Steve || 07/19/2005 09:33 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Confusion on this. Different sources say that one was killed, along with his two bodyguards. Then they mention that two other Sunnis had resigned after threats before this event.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 07/19/2005 9:43 Comments || Top||


soldjer sniped. shoots bak. saves sniper.
Being shot at by a sniper is a weekly occurrence for many U.S. soldiers stationed in Iraq.

But the experience Army Pfc. Stephen Tschiderer, of Mendon, New York, had in Baghdad on June 2 was highly unusual.

During a routine patrol in Baghdad, Tschiderer, a medic, was shot in the chest by an enemy sniper, hiding in a van just 75 yards away. The incident was videotaped by the insurgents.

Tschiderer, was knocked to the ground from the impact, but he wasn’t killed, thanks to the protective body armor he was wearing. “I knew I was hit,” said Tschiderer, “but was uncertain of the damage or location of the hit. The only thing going through my mind was to take cover and locate the sniper’s position."

After a few seconds, Tschiderer jumped to his feet, shot back, then took cover and located the sniper.
The U.S. Army has released footage of the incident that shows Tschiderer, 21, being shot in the chest by a sniper, then getting away.
His mother, Debbie Tschidere, has had a chance to view the tape, after first getting an e-mail from her son. In the e-mail, Pfc Stephen wrote, “Treating the man who shot me didn't really sink in until afterwards. At the time, I just did my job and didn't really think about it too much."
After she saw the tape, she told a local television station that she just couldn’t believe her son got up. She says learning he went on to capture the shooter and render first aid tells the world what she already knows, that her son is a top-notch soldier, "And to me that shows incredible strength of character that we're incredibly proud of," said Debbie Tschiderer.
After being shot and calling for help, other soldiers from Tschiderer’s unit joined him and together they tracked down the wounded sniper by following the blood trail he left as he and another attacker fled the scene.

The sniper was handcuffed and given medical aid by the very man he had tried to kill, Tschiderer.

Tschiderer is with E Troop, 101st “Saber” Cavalry Division, attached to 3rd Battalion, 156th Infantry Regiment, 256th Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division.
Posted by: muck4doo || 07/19/2005 01:08 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Why would you treat an SOB who shot you? This is why the war appears to be a quagmire. That asshole will get to see abu gahrib prison, but they'll release him in 2 months, so he can take a shot at someone else.
Posted by: Angens Elmack9257 || 07/19/2005 7:53 Comments || Top||

#2  Letter and photos from Pfc. Tschiderer to the armor maker: Point Blank Body Armor
Posted by: ed || 07/19/2005 8:25 Comments || Top||

#3  and given medical aid euthanasia?
Posted by: 2b || 07/19/2005 8:46 Comments || Top||

#4  Ok...where's this footage that's been released? Anyone have it?
Posted by: gromky || 07/19/2005 8:47 Comments || Top||

#5  I saw the video. Lots of Al Akbarring audio while the medic got shot and knocked down. But he gets right back up. These so-called snipers needed to be wrung dry and then shot for the dogs they are. They are the scum of the earth and should be treated like same. PC is going to have us lose, and we've only ourselves to blame.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 07/19/2005 9:13 Comments || Top||

#6  It was here last week:

http://gojackarmy.castpost.com/156.html
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/19/2005 9:16 Comments || Top||

#7  NYT give 50+ articles on Abu Ghrab, but think you'll see significant coverage of this? When hell freezes over or the Times goes bellyup [faster, faster].
Posted by: Joluck Jinemble9207 || 07/19/2005 10:39 Comments || Top||

#8  Allah ackbar that........
Posted by: Nockeyes Nilberforce || 07/19/2005 14:35 Comments || Top||


Iraqi Insurgents Killed About 55 US Soldiers on Monday
From Jihad Unspun
In a dispatch posted at 3:55pm Mecca time Monday (July 18) afternoon, Mafkarat al-Islam reported that a short while earlier a martyrdom fighter drove an explosives-laden car into a US armored column .... into a column of six US armored vehicles and two Humvees, catching the Americans by surprise and blowing up despite their last minute gunfire sprayed in his direction. The blast totally destroyed one American armored vehicle, reportedly killing or wounding all the members of its six-man crew. ....

... two martyrdom fighters drove two explosives-packed cars into a column of eight Humvees and four US armored vehicles on the main road in the western Iraqi city of Rawah in a simultaneous two-pronged attack. ... the two martyrdom attackers were able to break into the US column at nearly the same moment, setting four Humvees on fire and reportedly killing or wounding 20 American troops. ....

A bomb exploded by a US military column on the main road linking al-Khalidiyah with al-Habbaniyah, west of Baghdad .... a bomb that was planted by the side of the road blew up as a column of six US armored vehicles and two Humvees was passing by. The blast set one American armored vehicle on fire, reportedly killing or wounding all aboard. ....

... an Iraqi Resistance bomb exploded by a joint US-Iraqi puppet patrol in the as-Saqlawiyah area north of Fallujah ... a bomb that was planted by the side of the highway .... The blast set one US Humvee on fire, reportedly killing one American soldier and wounding three more. Also killed in the attack was one Iraqi puppet soldier. ....

... a bomb planted by the side of the as-Sadd Road exploded as a joint patrol passed by, severely damaging one American Humvee and killing one US soldier and wounding a second, in addition to killing two Iraqi puppet troops. ....

... about 10 Resistance fighters armed with light and medium weapons, including RPG7 rocket-propelled grenades and BKC machine guns, attacked a joint US-puppet patrol sparking a firefight that lasted about 10 minutes. In the course of their attack, the Resistance fighters set one American Humvee and one pickup belonging to the Iraqi puppet forces ablaze. Three US soldiers and five Iraqi puppet troops were killed and three other Americans were wounded. ... the Resistance fighters withdrew from the scene of the attack having suffered no casualties. ....

.... a car bomb exploded by a passing US patrol of five Humvees in the middle of Abu Ghurayb. .... the car bomb, which had been parked by the side of the road, blew up, destroying two Humvees and reportedly killing six US troops and wounding three more.

A bomb exploded by a column of US armored vehicles on the road leading to the city of al-Musayyib, south of Baghdad, .... a bomb that was planted by the side of the road exploded when a column of four US armored vehicles and three Humvees passed by on its way to al-Musayyib. They said that the blast destroyed one of the armored vehicles, reportedly killing four US troops and wounding two more. ....

An Iraqi Resistance martyrdom fighter drove an explosives-laden car into a US military column in al-Latifiyah south of Baghdad .... a martyrdom fighter drove an explosive Opel car into a US tank column on the highway .... The blast completely destroyed a Humvee, reportedly killing three US troops and severely wounding two more.

A car bomb exploded near a joint US-Iraqi puppet patrol in the ad-Durah area south of Tirkit ..... an explosives-packed car that was parked by the side of a road exploded as a joint patrol of four US Humvees and three pickups owned by the Iraqi puppet forces was passing by. The blast destroyed two American Humvees, reportedly killing five US troops and wounding three more. Two Iraqi puppet soldiers were also said to have died in the bomb attack.

A large roadside bomb exploded by a US patrol of two American troop transport vehicles and four Humvees in the middle of ad-Dulu‘iyah, north of Baghdad .... a massive bomb that was planted by the side of the main road in the city blew up in a very violent explosion, completely destroying one US personnel carrier and reportedly killing five US troops and seriously wounding three others.

Iraqi Resistance forces fired four heavy 120mm mortar rounds into the Shahraban puppet police station in the Ba‘qubah area northeast of Baghdad .... during a meeting between US military officers and puppet police officials in the building. ... four mortar rounds scored direct hits on the building, reportedly killing two US troops and wounding six more. Four puppet policemen were killed, one of them a captain.

... Iraqi Resistance forces had shot down a US Black Hawk helicopter at the northern edge of Tall ‘Afar in northern Iraq. .... the Resistance fired a shoulder-launched Strela surface-to-air missile at the US helicopteras it was on a mission protecting columns of US forces on the main road north of Tall ‘Afar. The rocket scored a direct hit on the helicopter and it was seen crashing some 3km north of Tall ‘Afar. ... the two-man crew of the aircraft was killed when the helicopter crashed to earth and exploded. ....
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 07/19/2005 07:13 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  They kill 50 Americans, we kill 3,000 dune loons. How is this a victory for them?
Posted by: Angens Elmack9257 || 07/19/2005 7:42 Comments || Top||

#2 

Next week's instalment.. The Spiders of Allah™ return...
Posted by: Howard UK || 07/19/2005 7:43 Comments || Top||

#3  Well, first of all, all death tolls must be prefaced by the words "at least", so that it is always understood there must have been more, but we don't know how many.

Second, "killing or wounding" is not the same as killing. About 14% of US casualties are killed, including about 4% in accidents, if I remember the numbers correctly. Of the 86% of the casualties that are wounded, about half are returned to service in less than 72 hours, but you really have to read the fine print to find that! That suggests they have John Kerry Purple-Heart injuries.

Third, how did ten fighters kill eight of the good guys, wound three more but withdraw with no casualties? They must be realllly expert markman - Roy Rogers of islam?

Fourth, how did they count, not to mention differentiate between the dead and wounded, while "withdrawing? Maybe they delivered double-taps to the dead guys, but spared three so they could tell the tale? All the other Coalition fighters were incapable of shooting while the heros of islam just counted? "Mahmood, here's another dead one!" "No, Abulazizz, he's just wounded." "Not any more!" "Stop you fool! We have to leave some alive to describe our heroics!" Usually, our guys count as "dead" those who are left on the ground when the shooting stops. I have a little more confidence in that method.

Ahh, but it is interesting to see the war from the other side, is it not? I wonder what the US military reported?
Posted by: Bobby || 07/19/2005 7:47 Comments || Top||

#4  Will someone please make Mikey go away? If I wanted to read his site, I would -- he doesn't need to post this crap here.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 07/19/2005 7:48 Comments || Top||

#5  Hush knuckle draggers, Mr. Sylwester is trying to show you the other side of the hill. He's a professional you know.
Posted by: Kojo || 07/19/2005 8:09 Comments || Top||

#6  fifthly or one millionthly, jihad unspun is full of bovine fecal amtter
Posted by: legolas || 07/19/2005 8:11 Comments || Top||

#7  Uh Bobby,
Jihad Unspun is a couple of muslim headbangers with a computer and no life. Nothing on the site has anything remotely to do with reality. See the weird shit teens think up when they are not allowed to date.
Posted by: ed || 07/19/2005 8:21 Comments || Top||

#8  This is old news, repetitive and information free. Mike, sometimes you make points whether or not one agrees. Others you waste bandwidth. This is the later.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis, nee uences || 07/19/2005 8:51 Comments || Top||

#9  It's amusing to read but surely there is better crap on that site relating to a different theme. Gross inflation of mythical mujahid accomplishments is a fundamental of the jihadi machine. The big weird lie is similarly a central component to alot of arab culture. Why not dig up a choice martyr bio from bosnia or chechnya talking about little green birds and how their carcasses didn't rot and stink after they died.
Posted by: MunkarKat || 07/19/2005 8:58 Comments || Top||

#10  We ought to have a separate category for this kind of article.

Possibly "Terrorist Supporters and Apologists" or something like this.
Posted by: mhw || 07/19/2005 10:08 Comments || Top||

#11  I saw todays NYT. Just how did they miss this one?????
Posted by: Cheaderhead || 07/19/2005 10:15 Comments || Top||

#12  Centcom regularly publishes the casualty listings at
http://www.centcom.mil/CENTCOMNews/casualties.asp

In an open society, it isn't hard to validate these. With open communications between the troops in the field and family members back home, the government is not hiding anything. So what's the point? Other than the enemy and their enablers [re:Sedition during time of War] need to spread disinformation to cover their own loses and failures.
Posted by: Joluck Jinemble9207 || 07/19/2005 10:32 Comments || Top||

#13  What I find interesting is the inversion of the propoganda. Yeah it's two guys and a computer and not state sponsered, but still they've got it backwards.

See the Commies understood that they need to magnify their losses to convince the West to stop the bloodshed, not magnify their successes which is unprovable and which would just piss us off. They should be thinking highway of Death is why Saddam got off, they need to manufacture a few Jenins if they want a chance to win.

Of course there is the problem with pride in a shame culture. Too bad.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 07/19/2005 10:38 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine
Laugh of the Day -- Hamas: Kassams brought Gaza pullout
Expected from the Paleo Lions of Pointless Posturing
Hamas leader Mahmoud Zahar on Monday rejected Palestinian Authority claims that the firing of rockets on Israel was causing damage to Palestinian interests, saying the attacks had brought about the decision to withdraw from the Gaza Strip.

Zahar was speaking after meeting with an Egyptian delegation headed by Mustafa Buhairi, deputy head of intelligence. It was the second meeting between the Egyptian team and Hamas leaders in less than 24 hours.

Zahar reportedly told Buhairi and his team that Hamas would abide by the unofficial truce if Israel halted its attacks on Hamas activists in the West Bank and Gaza.

"There's nothing new in our position," Zahar said, describing the talks with the Egyptian delegation as positive. "The truce is conditional on Israel halting its aggression on our people. When they attacked us, we had to respond and defend ourselves."

He strongly dismissed the argument made by PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas according to which the rocket attacks on Israel were causing more damage to the Palestinians than Israel.

"Who said that the rockets are harmful to the national interests of the Palestinians," Zahar asked. "History has proven that the rockets have been in the interests of the Palestinians. The rockets have forced Israel to withdraw from the Gaza Strip, and they will end the occupation in the future. It's the resistance, and not the negotiations, that brought about the end of the occupation."

He also dismissed allegations that his movement was planning to replace the PA. "No one wants to create an alternative authority," he stressed.

"We want one elected authority and that's why we are insisting on holding elections. We want an authority that is immune from corruption and the only way to achieve this is through the ballot boxes," he said.

Hamas representatives have agreed to participate in a meeting of various Palestinian factions in the Gaza Strip to discuss ways of maintaining the truce and preventing internecine fighting. The meeting will take place in Gaza City on Tuesday evening.

Ibrahim Abu Naja, head of the Palestinian follow-up committee for national and Islamic factions, said the Egyptians were playing a significant role in easing tensions between Hamas and the PA. "This dialogue is important because it is aimed at ending disputes between Hamas and the PA," he said.

Abu Naja said the arrival of the Egyptian delegation was aimed at ending the current dispute. "The Egyptians are a major part in the dialogue and they will stay in the Gaza Strip until they achieve their goals," he said. "The presence of the Egyptian brothers is essential to avoid more confrontations."
Blah, blah, blah, posture, pose, blather, brag, bullshit.
Posted by: .com || 07/19/2005 02:05 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Attempting to take credit for stealing defeat from the jaws of victory and rewriting history at the same time. How Palestinian of them. I guess that's why they call them HAM ASS.
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom || 07/19/2005 2:41 Comments || Top||

#2  History has proven that the rockets have been in the interests of the Palestinians.

Yeah. Israeli Hellfire's with names on them. Like this asshole's...
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/19/2005 8:16 Comments || Top||

#3  That they'd feel fit to say it in public just goes to illustrate the twisted thought processes that are the norm for paleos. To them it must ring true. Hard to get anywhere at all when you're up against that level of madness.
Posted by: MunkarKat || 07/19/2005 9:01 Comments || Top||

#4  Hamas should make a "gangsta rap" CD.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 07/19/2005 9:13 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Seven killed and 16 injured in sectarian attacks
Seven people were killed and 16 were injured in countrywide attacks on Monday. Most of the attacks were sectarian in nature.

Unidentified men shot at a Rawalpindi-bound passenger bus from Gilgit near Chilas Farm on Karakorum Highway, killing five people and seriously injuring 15 others, said area police officer Iqbal Khan. Khan said it was not clear who was behind the attack.

Separately, gunmen shot dead Abdul Waris Khan, the brother of a police official, here, said police. Local police chief Sarmad Khan said the killing appeared to be sectarian. Tahir Raza was killed and his wife Nargis Fatima injured when unidentified motorcyclists fired upon them at Saryab Road. Tahir, a retired WAPDA official, and Nargis were running a private school. They were on their way to school when they were attacked.
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#1  More peaceful acts from the moon cult of death.
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom || 07/19/2005 1:08 Comments || Top||


Law agencies arrest dozens of militants on wanted list
LAHORE: The federal government has given a list of 136 most wanted militants to law enforcing agencies with strict directions to arrest them “in a few days”. Following the directive, agencies in Punjab arrested dozens of people belonging to militant organisations.

In Lahore, police arrested two militants of Lashkar-e-Jhangvi from Mozang on Sunday and confiscated weapons from them. They were identified as Qari Ishaq and Aftab, residents of Chunian, District Kasur. “When the police arrested them, they identified themselves as mujahideen. Two pistols were recovered from their possession,” said a source. Pro-jihad slogans ‘Aslah momin ka zaiwar hai’ (Weapons are the ornaments of the faithful) and ‘Jihad zindabad’ (Long live jihad) were engraved on the pistols.

The Punjab government has strictly ordered the police to enforce the Loud Speaker Act and not allow any mosque to use their loud speakers except for prayers. The Lahore police registered cases against half a dozen mosque orators on Monday for violating the loudspeaker policy. The detained were Maulna Muhammad Hafeez of Bilal Mosque, Gujjarpura, Goga Shoraywala of Muslim Mosque, Lohari, Qari Ghulam Muhammad of Jamia Mosque, Bhatti Gate, Khalid Hussain, president of Shafiqabad Welfare Society, Qari Ashiq of Jamia Mosque, Farid Kot House Mozang, and the orator of Jamia Mosque, Tigor Park, Naulakha under Section 188 and 3 MPO. Law enforcement agencies also raided the offices and mosques of different militants organisations in Lahore, Multan and Faisalabad on Monday and confiscated their records.

Meanwhile, a joint team of intelligence agencies went to the NWFP to interrogate Britain-born Pakistani Zeeshan Siddiqi in Peshawar Jail. Zeeshan was arrested from Shabqadar in May 2005. “The interrogators are trying to find out if he had links with the London bombers,” said the sources. The interrogators had not found out anything till Monday evening.

Quetta correspondent adds: Police arrested three men belonging to a banned religious organisation and more raids were in progress after two major incidents of sectarian violence here, Quetta Range’s deputy inspector general (DIG) of police Salman Syed told Daily Times on Monday. Syed said different raiding parties had been formed to raid hideouts of people suspected of being involved in sectarian violence. He said that police expected to make more arrests by morning (Tuesday). He added that security had been increased here and over 1,700 policemen had been sent for this purpose.

Multan correspondent adds: Police on Monday arrested over 12 people in a large operation here against people promoting sectarian violence and confiscated hundreds of compact discs (CDs). President Musharraf on July 15 ordered law enforcement agencies to launch a countrywide campaign against extremist organisations and people inciting sectarianism through the sale of books and CDs. “We took action against those book and audio-video stores that were selling religiously bigotry material and detained several traders,” said Multan DPO Sikandar Hayat. However, he added that no case was registered against the men. The DPO said the operation against sectarian material would continue in all provinces till December 31 and anti-terrorism courts would try the accused. Police also registered a case against three religious leaders, including banned Sipah-e-Sahaba leader Maulana Ali Sher Haideri, for using loudspeakers to incite sectarianism.
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Africa: Subsaharan
Kenya holds 5 Pakistani for terror links
MOMBASA: Kenya has arrested five men on suspicion of terrorism links after they were seen taking photos from a ferry, police sources said on Monday. They said the men, believed to come from Pakistan, had no legal travel documents in their possession. "The case is sensitive and the FBI are here to take over the interrogation of the suspects," one source told Reuters, adding that several FBI investigators had arrived in Mombasa on Monday. The five men were arrested on Saturday aboard a ferry off the eastern coastal city of Mombasa, the sources said. Kenya, hit in 1998 and 2002 by bombs blamed on Al Qaeda, is viewed as a "weak flank" for terrorism by Western security services, particularly along its coastline.
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Africa: North
Egypt Extends Detention of Muslim Brotherhood Bigs
An Egyptian prosecutor has extended the detention of four leaders of the outlawed Muslim Brotherhood arrested in a government crackdown sparked by a wave of pro-reform protests by the banned Islamic movement. The men face charges of belonging to a banned group, organizing unauthorized protests and inciting sedition. They were arrested May 6, when the group held nationwide protests to demand political reform. Their detention has been extended repeatedly and on Sunday was extended again for 15 days.

Emergency laws introduced in 1981 allow the state to hold suspects for six months without trial and allows authorities to re-arrest them indefinitely. Essam El-Erian, a 52-year-old former lawmaker, spent five years jailed during the 1990s on charges of belonging to a banned group trying to change the regime in Egypt to an Islamic state. Hundreds of Muslim Brotherhood members were arrested in May during a surge of protests by many groups in Egypt ahead of a historic referendum to amend the constitution and allow multi-candidate presidential elections for the first time.

The group says more than 300 of its members remain detained. The government said only 37 from those rounded up during protests remain in custody. Human Rights Watch and an Egyptian human rights group have urged the government to free hundreds of political detainees, including Brotherhood members, being held without charges, some for years. With presidential and parliament elections due later this year, Egypt has seen an unprecedented spate of protests calling for an end to the rule of President Hosni Mubarak, who is widely expected to run for a fifth term and win.
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Afghanistan/South Asia
Pakistani forces launch door-to-door search
Pakistani security forces Monday launched a door-to-door search operation to hunt down Taliban suspects and foreign militants in the North Waziristan tribal agency, bordering Afghanistan, but there were no arrests, said an official.
"Hi, Mrs. Abdullah! Y'got any Taliban suspects or foreign militants in there?"
"Nobody here but us women and children!"
"Hokay."
Forces cordoned off Qutab Khael area and Esia checkpost near Miramshahm, the main headquarters of North Waziristan agency, and conducting door-to-door operation, a security official told KUNA. The operation ended in the evening with no arrests, added the official. The operation has been launched a day after 17 Arab suspects of Kazakhstan origin were killed in a clash with forces near Miramshah. One soldier was also killed and at least 16 local facilitators were arrested.
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#1  Why did I hear "Nobody here but us women and children!" in Eric Idle falsetto? I swear I did...

No arrests. Right. No baddies in "Qutab Khael area and Esia checkpost near Miramshahm", then. Okay, PakiWakis, time to announce the next search area and when it's scheduled.
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