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Ricin plot leader gets 10 years
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Arabia
Father: Terror suspect son fled to Iraq
The father of a wanted Saudi terror suspect said his son went to Iraq via Syria a year ago. The Saudi daily al-Medina Thursday quoted Sheik Sanitan Dayt as saying his son, Sultan Dayt, who is on a Saudi list of 36 suspected terrorists, last contacted the family from Iraq in October 2004. "In June last year, we received an anonymous phone call saying that Sultan arrived in Syria and was on his way to Iraq," Dayt said.
"The sucker, er, maryter, er, defender of Islam is on his way.."
"A month later, Sultan called to say that he arrived in Iraq ... I begged him to come back, but he said he will when time comes."
Only if there is enough left to identify the remains
Saudi authorities fear the wanted terror suspects will flee the kingdom through neighboring countries.
Fear? I thought that was the plan
A senior security source was quoted Thursday by daily newspaper al-Watan as saying the interior ministry is giving the 36 suspects identified this week the chance to surrender and reduce the punishment they may face. "Unveiling the identities of the wanted suspects might encourage many to surrender and defend themselves and to be freed if they prove not to be involved in terrorist activities," the source added.
Posted by: Steve || 06/30/2005 13:22 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Paranoid thought: Saudis turn blind eye/provide active support while AQ assembles terr. team on their soil, with agreement that team is to be used only on infidel targets, which apparently now includes everyone in Iraq.

Team heads off on their mission, Saudis release new "most wanted" list giving names and pics of team members and a few of the usual suspects. When terrs strike, Saudis avoid any culpability. If terrs are stopped, Saudis claim they helped.

The only downside is if the terrs are taken alive, and since these are probably the brainwashed muscle, that's unlikely.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 06/30/2005 14:28 Comments || Top||

#2  Full state fincial support to these "Insurgents" going to Iraq. This is just a scam.
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom || 06/30/2005 16:35 Comments || Top||

#3  I think that Steve's article effectively illustrates the true idiocy of Wessly Clark's babbling the other night. The war in Iraq wasn't really a "recruitment tool" for new Jehadis. The invasion of Iraq continues to act as a Jehadi bug zapper which is to the benefit of the collective populations of Afghanistan, Lebanon, Kuwaitt, Australia, the EU and the US.

I find it unlikely that non-jehadis would be attracted to the opportunity to torture and kill innocent Muslims ... until the USMC delouses your safe-house.
Posted by: Super Hose || 06/30/2005 17:32 Comments || Top||

#4  Wes Clark - proof to the proverb:
"Never trust a man who doesn't blink"
Posted by: Frank G || 06/30/2005 18:46 Comments || Top||

#5  Or wears plaid on Thursday.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2005 19:28 Comments || Top||


Some detail on the 36 Most Wanted list
According to a report carried by Asharq Al-Awsat yesterday, some of the terrorists appearing on the new list are dangerous. Moroccan Younus Mohamed Al-Hayari, who is No. 1 on the list, is believed to be the leader of Al-Qaeda network in the Kingdom. Quoting a Saudi security source, the paper said Hayari, 36, is believed to have, “extensive contact with Al-Qaeda and handles the financial and organizational matters in the Kingdom.” Al-Hayari is believed to have entered the Kingdom using a Bosnian passport in February 2001. “Putting him as the first person on the list is an indication that he is the most dangerous suspect. He has wide military experience, he trained and fought in Bosnia and Herzegovina and can be considered the leader of the terrorist group in Saudi Arabia,” the Arabic daily said.

The second on the list, Saudi Fahd Farraj Al-Juwair, 35, is believed to have been involved in clashes between Saudi forces and gunmen in January in Zulfi, northwest of Riyadh. The clashes resulted in four gunmen killed and three Saudi security men injured. “Al-Juwair was among those who frequented the location of the clashes before the confrontation,” the paper said. Both Al-Hayari and Al-Juwair are believed to be in Saudi Arabia. The paper also said that Saudi Abdullah Mohamed Al-Rumayan is believed to be held by Kurdish authorities in northern Iraq. “We want him and believe he is a very important suspect,” the paper quoted the security source as saying.

The security source said that the list of 21 suspects outside Saudi Arabia, “are not necessarily in Iraq...We don’t want to fall into the myth that the only safe haven (for suspects) is Iraq,” the security source said. Kuwaiti suspect Mohsen Ayed Al-Fadhili, 25, is also wanted by Kuwaiti authorities and is suspected of involvement in attacks in Kuwait and Iraq, in addition to the October 2000 attack on the American destroyer USS Cole in Yemen. “He is one of the major financiers of Al-Qaeda in the Kingdom,” the security source told Asharq Al-Awsat.
Posted by: Fred || 06/30/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  According to a report carried by Asharq Al-Awsat yesterday, some of the terrorists appearing on the new list are dangerous.

And the rest are, what, harmless?
Posted by: Colt || 06/30/2005 5:17 Comments || Top||

#2  Lol, Colt! Purrfekt.
Posted by: .com || 06/30/2005 8:37 Comments || Top||

#3  Links screwed up on your site Colt, just peeked in, very nice. I can't believe RB missed the Hitler Father of the Sex Doll story.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2005 9:56 Comments || Top||

#4  Screwed up to your site, C.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2005 9:57 Comments || Top||

#5  The security source said that the list of 21 suspects outside Saudi Arabia, “are not necessarily in Iraq...We don’t want to fall into the myth that the only safe haven (for suspects) is Iraq,” the security source said.

I know I've never fallen for that myth. I see 'em in PakiWakiland, Syria, Iran, Afghanistan, Indonesia, Sudan, Somalia, well, need I go on?
Posted by: BA || 06/30/2005 9:57 Comments || Top||

#6  Lol, BA - too true: the only safe place for them is outside of Iraq. Iraq is where they get dead.
Posted by: .com || 06/30/2005 10:22 Comments || Top||


Britain
Ricin plot leader gets 10 years
An Algerian court on Wednesday sentenced an Algerian, whom Britain said was a key conspirator in an al Qaeda plot to launch attacks in London using ricin and other poisons, to 10 years in prison, court officials said.

Mohamed Meguerba, 37, who trained in Afghanistan, skipped bail in Britain in 2002 and is thought to have been smuggled back to Algeria by Islamic rebels, was convicted of setting up and belonging to a foreign terrorist organisation.

"The court sentenced Meguerba to 10 years in jail," one official said.

The ricin plot focused attention on a group of young Algerians based in Europe who became involved with al Qaeda in the late 1990s and have been linked to plots in Britain, France, Italy, Germany and the United States.

Algeria has been fighting Islamist militancy for more than a decade and has repeatedly criticised Western governments, and Britain in particular, for failing to listen to its warnings and for harbouring extremists.

Meguerba, a native of Algiers, was held by British police in late 2002 but was freed on bail. He skipped bail and returned to Algeria, where he was arrested in December 2002.

Information he gave Algerian interrogators was crucial to the capture and conviction in Britain of another Algerian, Kamel Bourgass, and made him a central figure in Britain's biggest terrorism case of recent years.

According to UK prosecutors, Meguerba told the interrogators that he, Bourgass and others had been making poison in a flat in North London, keeping it in a skin cream jar and planning to smear it on door handles.

British police, tipped off by the Algerian authorities, raided the apartment and found poison recipes and instructions on making explosives, triggering a nationwide sweep and more than 100 arrests -- including that of Bourgass.

Bourgass, accused of being the leader of the group, was found guilty in April this year of plotting to "use poisons or explosives to cause disruption, injury or fear" and jailed for 17 years. But eight other North Africans alleged to be fellow conspirators were cleared of any role in the plot.

A year earlier, Bourgass had been convicted in a separate trial of murdering a British detective taking part in the raid in which he was arrested.

Mergueba, like many other Algerians who left the country in the 1990s amid political and social instability, moved around Europe before attending London's Finsbury Park mosque, known to attract radical young Muslims, a security expert familiar with his Algerian dossier said.

Mergueba, who was able to travel and fit in easily, speaking fluent French, English and Arabic, is believed to have married an Irish woman in 1997.

In 2000 he went to Afghanistan and trained at the El-Farouk camp run by Osama bin Laden, the expert said. Thousands of men, including many North Africans, went to such training camps run by bin Laden and the Taliban regime.

Family members in Algiers said on Wednesday they knew nothing about his life abroad.

"We know nothing about him because he told us nothing about his life," Meguerba's sister, who declined to give her full name, told Reuters outside the court house. Another family member said Meguerba was not a particularly strict Muslim as a young man, and used to drink alcohol.

He has not been charged with any crimes in Britain, which is not expected to seek his extradition.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 06/30/2005 09:28 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Europe
Spain busts 2 al-Qaeda recruiters
Spanish police have arrested two more people - a Moroccan and an Algerian - charged with recruiting Islamic militants in Spain to fight in Iraq's insurgency, Spain's EFE news agency reported. Ridoune Elourma, a 29-year-old Moroccan was picked up on Tuesday in Puigcerda, a city in northeastern Spain. Algerian national Mohamed Saad, 31, was arrested in the Mediterranean city of Valencia.

Police had been looking for the two men since their 'Operation Tigris' swoop led to the arrests of sixteen terror suspects across Spain on 14 June. Together with eleven of the suspects arrested in 'Operation Tigris', Elourma and Saad are believed to belong to a terror cell linked to al-Qaeda's number-one operative in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, that recruited young Islamic radicals to fight in the 'Jihad' or holy war in Iraq, where an increasingly bloody insurgency continues to rage. Five of the suspects arrested in the 14 June raids were held for alleged involvement in the March 2004 train bombings in Madrid, police said.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 06/30/2005 09:32 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


5 ETA jailed for dynamite robbery
Five ETA terrorists were jailed for prison terms of 15 to 20 years for stealing or receiving more than eight tons of dynamite in the north-western French city of Plevin in 1999.

After eight hours of deliberation, the special criminal court in Paris meted out the highest jail term of 20 years to the alleged former chief of the Basque separatist group's logistical apparatus, Asier Oyarzabal.

Judges handed jail terms of 18 years to activists Miren Argi Perurena and Jon Bienzobas, who were found guilty of carrying out the armed robbery.

Each of them was also found guilty of receiving the Plevin dynamite, as were companions Patxi Segurola Mayoz and Germin Martinez Vergars, who received 15 and 16 years behind bars, respectively.

The six-judge court was presided over by Judge Yves Jacob.

The court sentenced 10 alleged separatists of the Breton Revolutionary Army (ARB) - who had been on trial along with the five admitted ETA members since 1 June for having collaborated with the Basques in the dynamite operation - to prison terms ranging from two to seven years.

The sentences against the ETA members were more lenient than had been requested by the prosecution, which had asked for terms of 30 years for Oyarzabal, 25 for Perurena, 22 for Bienzobas and 18 for Vergara, although Segurola received the 15 years that had been requested for him.

The group stole the Titadyn-30 and 50 explosives along with detonators and detonating cord from a factory run by Titanite in Plevin in north-western France in September 1999.

Bienzobas, Perurena and Segurola were arrested a little over a day after the robbery in the southwestern French town of Idron, where they had stored 2.5 tons of the explosive.

Oyarzabal and Martinez, were arrested elsewhere in France in June 2001 and March 2004, respectively.

The charges against the group claimed that in 2000 and 2001, 18 deaths in Spain and one in France had been caused by bombs made using portions of the dynamite they stole.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 06/30/2005 09:17 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Oh, they stole dynamite. I thought this was the hip, new Expatica...
Posted by: tu3031 || 06/30/2005 11:18 Comments || Top||

#2  Dyn-O-Mite!!!

Posted by: Raj || 06/30/2005 11:51 Comments || Top||


Al Jazeera journalist 'arrested for doing job well': wife
The wife of a Syrian-born journalist now on trial in Spain for alleged links to Al Qaeda said her husband Taysir Alony was arrested merely "for going his job well". In his closing statement at the trial of Alony and 23 others in Madrid, prosecutor Pedro Rubira said that when the Al Jazeera correspondent taped an interview with Osama bin Laden in October 2001, "he interviewed his boss".
Right. He interviewed his boss, then contacted the CIA and told them where they could wire the reward money, then watched the teevee coverage of Osama's arrest and subsequent "crossfire." Oh, he didn't do that? He kept his mouth shut and muttered something about "infidels" under his breath? In that case, he should hang.
"What the prosecutor said does not bother us. It's to be expected because that's his job," Fatima Zahra told EFE. At the same time, she said Rubira's reference confirms "what we've always maintained, which is that they arrested him (Alony) for his work, for having interviewed Osama Bin Laden".
Cry me a river, lady.
"It is ever more clear that it was for doing his job well and for not being named Juan, Pepe, George or Michael but Taysir," she said, adding that if any other person had been the only journalist able to remain in Afghanistan "nobody would have dared to say that he was favoured and he would have been given an award". The journalist's wife said she was confident that the verdict would be arrived at sooner than originally thought because the trial proved to be shorter than expected after the prosecutor decided to forego presenting some pieces of evidence. "We've been halted for two years now and we want to get on with our lives," she said. "If justice is done, the verdict will be favourable and Taysir will have to be set free," she said, adding that her husband is in very good spirits and that the trial had made him want to go to law school.
Posted by: Seafarious || 06/30/2005 00:16 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Can we extend the Sympathy meter to read to at least -10?
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 06/30/2005 1:01 Comments || Top||

#2  The hangman does his job well too. It's just business.
Posted by: 2b || 06/30/2005 7:23 Comments || Top||

#3  Maybe his wife didn't really understand what his "job" was?
Posted by: Bobby || 06/30/2005 7:33 Comments || Top||

#4  Al Jazeera journalist 'arrested for doing job well': wife

Yes, for Al Qaeda.
Posted by: ed || 06/30/2005 7:39 Comments || Top||

#5  I wonder if Peter Arnett can be prosecuted under the same law?
Posted by: BrerRabbit || 06/30/2005 8:03 Comments || Top||

#6  Isn't this the same trial where their lawyer threatened the court? Try that crap in the U.S. and the lawyer would be spending time in jail too.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 06/30/2005 8:17 Comments || Top||

#7  Take him to Gitmo for some Lemon Chicken, and 24-hour interrogation sessions!
Posted by: BigEd || 06/30/2005 11:29 Comments || Top||

#8  I can see it now-- Mikeee Moore will do a hit movie of his life. he will call it the "It was my job" "and I did it well" show. The press will love him as a free speach advocate, Amnisty int. will give him political prisoner status and all the liberals will wear free Taysor shirts at Hollywood fundraisers. I want in on the marketing rights, you heard it hear first!!!!!
Posted by: 49 pan || 06/30/2005 19:55 Comments || Top||

#9  Well if your real job is being a courier for money yes he did a good job.
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom || 06/30/2005 21:57 Comments || Top||


Garzon 'ignored lack of evidence' on 9/11 case
Don't be dissing my man Judge Garzon, now...
Lawyers for men accused of Al Qaeda membership claimed investigating judge Baltasar Garzon was so determined to pursue a case linked to the 9/11 attacks he ignored a lack of evidence against their clients. During closing arguments, the attorney for Ghasoub Al Abrash Ghalyoun, charged with having provided Al Qaeda with videotaped images of New York's World Trade Center, said Garzon indicted his client despite the "innocuous" content of the videos "because if he didn't, the connection with 9/11 would disappear".
"If you ignore all the evidence, y'r honor, my client is pure as the driven snow."
Jesus Santaella recalled that the magistrate decided to indict Al Abrash in 2003 against the advice of prosecutor Pedro Rubira. Rubira asked at the time for the accusations to be withdrawn yet is now asking for 74,334 years behind bars for the accused, despite admitting that "he has doubts" about the man's connection to the attacks. "What could be the reason for this abnormal conduct of the judge? Perhaps that if he didn't bring Al Abrash to trial the connection with 9/11 would disappear?" Santaella asked rhetorically.
Judge Garzon should sweep everything from his desk to the floor, leap over the bailiff, and strangle this dipshit with his bare hands. Rhetorically, of course.
In addition, the lawyer of Mohamed Khair Al Saqqa, the brother-in-law of Al Abrash who allegedly delivered the videotape shot by his relative to purported Al Qaeda courier Mohamed Bahaiah, emphasized the "incongruence" of the accusation. Luis Rodriguez Ramos recalled that Garzon ordered that his client be released after receiving a police report stating that there was no evidence against him, though this did not stop judge Garzon from ordering his trial anyway, even though he had failed to receive any request from prosecutor Rubira to bring the man to trial.The lawyers for Waheed and Ahmad Kosaghi Kelani asked for their clients to be acquitted, claiming Rubira's failure to even mention them in his final summing up was due to a "tactical rejection of the accusation".
How 'bout a tactical extra five years for having annoying gits as attorneys, Waheed.
Posted by: Seafarious || 06/30/2005 00:02 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Is that his hair or a skunk's.
Posted by: Captain America || 06/30/2005 0:57 Comments || Top||

#2  LOL Captain! a skunk toupee.
Posted by: Red Dog || 06/30/2005 1:28 Comments || Top||

#3  Judd Hirsch is "Garzon". Coming soon to a theatre near you.
Posted by: tu3031 || 06/30/2005 8:24 Comments || Top||

#4  Christian Slater: The Elvis Years.
Posted by: BH || 06/30/2005 9:34 Comments || Top||

#5  You're in deep doo Captain, seen the sink trap? :)
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2005 10:00 Comments || Top||

#6  This guy's a loser. Do you think he just put the Grecian formula on one side of his head or maybe he dyed the other side grey? Maybe he just can't make up his mind what he wants to be when he grows up....
Posted by: WITT || 06/30/2005 21:28 Comments || Top||


Dutch extradite terror suspect to Germany
"...And stay out!"
Authorities in the Netherlands extradited a suspected Turkish leftwing militant to Germany Wednesday to stand trial on terrorism charges. The German chief federal prosecutor's office said in a statement that Hasan Huseyin K. would also face charges of extortion by force and grievous bodily harm for his role as a leader of the Revolutionary People's Liberation Party-Front (DHKP-C) in Germany. He was arrested on March 25 in Rotterdam and been held since then in investigative custody. Hasan Huseyin K. is suspected of leading a regional chapter of the DHKP-C - which is on the terror lists of Turkey, the European Union and the United States - from early 1996 to mid-1997. He is accused of violently extorting 'donations' for the group and beating and shooting two political dissidents in a Hamburg restaurant.
"Gimme yer lunch money an' mebbe you don' git hurt."
The DHKP-C is believed to have orchestrated attacks on Turkish institutions in Germany as well as purported 'enemies' of the group until it was banned in August 1998. The following year, the group's general secretary Dursan Karatas said that it would no longer use violence to achieve its political aims. The DHKP-C is accused of masterminding a wave of hunger strikes among left-wing prison inmates and their friends and families in Turkey that has resulted in nearly 70 deaths in four years.
He killed 70 people by hunger strike?
Posted by: Seafarious || 06/30/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  heh, heh, looks like they want them back in jail to see if they can master-mind a few more.
Posted by: 2b || 06/30/2005 8:44 Comments || Top||

#2  "Dutch extradite terror suspect to Germany"

..who will then kick him over to his country of origin, from whence he goes to Syria, then sneaks into Iraq, where he gots blown up by a JDAM.

Way too many middlemen in this, I say we blow him up in Holland.
Posted by: Carl in N.H. || 06/30/2005 17:41 Comments || Top||


'Islamic terrorist' linked to Catalan political dynasty
Spanish police arrested two more people - a Moroccan and an Algerian - on charges of recruiting Islamic militants to fight against United States-led forces in Iraq. The arrests followed the detention of 11 people earlier this month accused of ties to Jordanian terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who is a key figure in the insurgency in Iraq. Ridoune Elourma, a 29-year-old Moroccan, was picked up Tuesday in Puigcerda, a city in the north-eastern region of Catalonia. Police said they arrested him when he crossed into Spain to buy supplies for a construction project he was working on in the nearby French town of La Tour de Querol.
"Evening, Ridouane. Where are you headed for with all these...parts??"
"To the um...construction site, officer. I'm in demolitions. Licensed and bonded. Here's proof...no, no, not those papers. Use these papers."
It emerged that Elourma was refurbishing a chalet belonging to Josep Pujol, son of former Catalan regional president Jordi Pujol. In fact, he was at the wheel of an SUV owned by the politician's wife, Marta Ferrusola, at the time of his arrest. Josep Pujol issued a statement saying Elourma was simply an employee of the construction company he hired to do some work at his property, and that he had loaned the Moroccan his mother's vehicle so he could pick up materials.
"He was our pool boy, and he did odd jobs around the property. Oiling hinges, trimming hedges, contract hits, that sort of thing. He was quiet and kept to himself."
The other suspect apprehended this week was 31-year-old Algerian national Mohamed Saad, traced on Monday in Valencia.

Authorities had been looking for the two men since the raids mounted on 14 June as part of 'Operation Tigris' in which 11 men said to be linked to Zarqawi and his Ansar el Islam group were arrested. The Spanish cell is said to have made up a support network for Zarqawi's 'jihad' or holy war agsinst US-led forces in Iraq, connections in several countries in the Middle East and North Africa, as well as in Britain. The nucleus of the support organization was located in Syria, where the main recruiters and financers of the network - Moroccans Muhsin Khaybar and Abdel Hay Assas - operated before their May 2004 arrests by Syrian authorities and their subsequent extradition to their homeland.
I don't remember...does Morocco have a revolving door on its jail?
The Islamic network recruited and sent Muslim fighters to Iraq to carry out suicide strikes there. But almost all of those arrested also were engaged in criminal activities such as drug trafficking, document forgery and violent robberies through which they obtained the funds they needed for their terrorist activities, police sources said.
"Will thieve for jihad. Yarrr!"
Posted by: Seafarious || 06/30/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "I don't remember...does Morocco have a revolving door on its jail?"

Lol, Sea! When I picture 'Slamic Stir I get this complicated image of a set of mazes - differing degrees of difficulty - like 2.5 for being a jihadi, 5.0 for stealing money, and 7.5 for cursing the Shari'a Court's mustache, but all having an "out" which will lead them to the front door. So yeah. I'm thinking it's standard equipment.
Posted by: .com || 06/30/2005 12:54 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Ex-NYC Iman: Many Americans Believe 9/11 was Fabricated to Forge a "New World Order"
via Memri. And this is, by all accounts, a "moderate" muslim. the scary thing is that they actually believe this tripe. And this is mainstream media in the arab world.

Dr. Ahmad Dewidar, imam of the Islamic Society of Mid-Manhattan and a lecturer on Islamic studies at Manhattanville College, has recently been referred to as "the face of the next generation of Muslims in America" and is considered a prominent Muslim leader in New York having met with President George W. Bush, former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani, New York State Governor George Pataki and U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan.

Recently, Dr. Dewidar, who is Egyptian-born, attended the annual Conference of the Supreme Council of Islamic Affairs in Egypt and gave a series of media interviews. In an interview which aired on MBC TV on June 9, Dr. Dewidar discussed the spread of Islam in the U.S. He referred to sermons he had heard in 1995 that stated "We are going to the White House so that Islam will be victorious, Allah willing, and the White House will become Muslim House." (To view this MEMRI TV Clip, visit http://memritv.org/search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=730 )

On June 15, Dr. Dewidar was interviewed by the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood website, www.ikhwanonline.com. In the interview, he said that before 9/11, Muslim preachers in America had often talked about the power and sovereignty of Islam, but that after the attacks, they began to exercise more caution in their sermons. Dr. Dewidar said that although the Taliban and bin Laden had claimed responsibility for the events of 9/11, many Americans believe that the events were fabricated in order to forge the so-called "New World Order." Dr. Dewidar also discussed "the Zionist
 control of the government, politics, economy, and media in the U.S."

The following are excerpts from Dr. Dewidar's interviews on www.ikhwaonline.com and MBC TV:



Hundreds of Americans Converted to Islam in the Days Following 9/11

Question:
"What was the line of da'wa [Islamic propagation] taken before 9/11?"

Dewidar: "The line of Islamic da'wa led to a strange contradiction. [On the one hand,] it had reached the pinnacle of constructive da'wa, and American society viewed some of the Muslims living in the U.S. as an influential cultural model, which led to a great rise in Islamic conversions. [On the other hand,] the preachers had reached the level of demonstration of power and [they] were constantly reciting slogans rooted in the concept of Islamic sovereignty. This made the Americans wary of Islam, believing that the Muslims had come to the U.S. in order to take it over and to rule the world.

"This was the discourse of da'wa that was prevalent at that time. The preacher would deliver a sermon from a room in some house in a slum. It is clear that Islamic sovereignty will come about not through such slogans, but as the natural outcome of the behavior and culture of the Muslims... American society is highly influenced by [social] services, and the churches understood this earlier. They organized courses in computers and languages, and tutoring for grade school and high school [students]. They also conceived of other methods, like serving free soup to the poor on Sundays. If you go to any church on that day [Sunday], you'll find many rows of the poor and the not-so-poor who come to enjoy [these] good services, and they receive booklets handed out by the churches."

Question: "Do the events of 9/11 represent a turning point for Islamic da'wa in American society?"

Dewidar: "Of course. [The events] restored balance to the da'wa discourse, and Muslims began to select their words and their methods of da'wa. They know that any [sign of] extremism on their part, or any word that could be interpreted not according to its meaning, would lead to extremism on the part of the American administration. Moreover, thousands of Americans have begun to take an interest in Islam and to study it in order to get to know the religion whose believers are trying to rule the world and intruded upon their tranquil and secure lives. Thank God, this was a great blessing for da'wa, since these people got to know the truth, the power, and the culture of Islam. Hundreds of them converted to this religion within days [after 9/11], and I witnessed some of these cases at the Islamic center."

Whether 9/11 was Planned or Pinned on Muslims, it Provided an Opportunity for the U.S. Government to Legislate Dubious Laws

Question: "What steps did you take to fend off the accusation that stuck to the Muslims – [i.e.] that they were behind 9/11?"

Dewidar: "Although a large part of American society believes that 9/11 was an operation planned and fabricated in order to forge a new reality of world rule under the so-called 'New World Order,' most of society got the message from the Muslims that they were in fact the ones behind [the attacks]. This message was reflected in the [fact that] the Taliban and Osama bin Laden took responsibility for the event, as well as in the reactions of glee in the Arab and Muslim world to what happened.

"As far as the American government is concerned these events – whether or not these events were planned, or pinned on the Muslims, or something else – provided an opportunity for [the American government] to legislate dubious laws that restrict the growth and presence of Islam in the U.S., such as the [anti-]terrorism law, and other laws.

"But as far as American society is concerned, the suspicion towards anything Islamic – in the streets, in places of recreation and commerce, and in workplaces – remains a heavy burden on the Muslim citizen in America. The media – most of which is under Zionist control – has helped to spread this perception. When [the media] see a bearded Muslim selling fast food on any street in any state, they put the camera lens in front of him and interview him as though he represents Islam. At the same time, they ignore every moderate Islamic voice, every serious, scientific Islamic model, and every expert religious scholar. We are trying to deal [with this phenomenon] through constant contact with the media and by registering complaints with its directors."

America Will Get Over 9/11 Easily If We Offer Them Proof of Our Innocence

"To conclude, I would like to say that American society – without relating to any given government position – is an active society that loves life and is quick to forget. It will get over the events of 9/11 easily, on condition that we offer them proof that we are innocent of this crime, and on condition that through our Islamic conduct, we remove the doubt and suspicion in American society that were aroused by this event."

The Zionists Control Government, Politics, and Economy in the U.S.

Question: "What is the extent of the Muslim community's influence on American society?"

Dewidar: "The Zionist community numbers only three million, but they control the government, the politics, the economy, and the media in the U.S. At the same time, the Islamic community numbers 11 million, but its influence is weak. There are a number of reasons for this. The main ones are that the Muslim community is composed of different cultures, languages, and countries [of origin] – there are Arabs, Asians, Iranians, and others – and that the Islamic community is a society that only recently emigrated to the U.S., in comparison with many other communities. Thus we lack an organization, a plan, and a strategy around which we can unite and according to which we can act. We need to have generations of specialists in medicine, computers, and other areas that serve society. Even if we now have some representatives in some fields of sciences, this is not sufficient in order for them to stand out and influence American society."

Jews Control the Media
 Preventing Us from Spreading Our Ideas

Question: "Are the only obstacles that prevent the organization and influence of the Muslim community obstacles related to its internal affairs?"

Dewidar: "Of course not. Many are interested in preventing our influence in society – first and foremost the Zionist lobby, which influences the media at present, so that we cannot spread our ideas and spotlight our leaders and our successful models. Even when a Muslim tries to work in the media, he has to contend with five million media employees who are controlled by the Jews. If he is a genius, and they are forced to employ him, he works behind the camera, not in front of it. At the same time, we see rich Muslims buying up the Egyptian cinema heritage for 800 million dollars, and not working to set up an Islamic channel of a level sufficient to reach foreign societies scientifically and professionally."

Question: "How did the American Muslims deal with the U.S. administration's policy towards the Arab and Islamic world, and particularly with its occupation of Iraq?"

Dewidar: "We have held many demonstrations, activities, sermons and conventions, and have sent out many messages to the media and the various organizations. But all this did not affect the decision [to go to] war. This was not due to any inadequacy of our actions, but because there was a firm decision [about the war], come what may..."

Leading the U.S. Regime are Sharansky's Despicable Goals for the Middle East: Freedom, Democracy, Education, and Participation

"As for the American policy of controlling the region... The American regime believes in a [certain] ideological or religious program, which is like the New Testament for it. [This program] is the result of a great intellectual effort by a man who is powerful and influential among the intellectuals, who is called Sharatsky [sic; apparently referring to former Israeli minister Natan Sharansky] – a Jew in origin. [His idea] boils down to the claim that in order for America to live in security, it has to change the perceptions in the Middle East regarding the [people's] sense of participation in the political process, and regarding freedom, democracy and education. This, [according to him,] is because the oppression of these [Middle Eastern] societies leads to extremism, which is ruining their countries and America... This Jew has despicable goals, and we see their effects today in America's actions in the region, imposing its opinion and its outlook on democracy, education, and political involvement on our [Arab and Islamic] countries.

"[We] also [see its effects] in [the U.S.'s] blatant intervention in these countries' internal affairs and in its contacts with opposition forces there. But we must take advantage of this golden opportunity to really improve, so that the magic backfires on the magician. If [their] aim is to establish regimes that serve the West, why don't we exert pressure to establish real national regimes? True, we will witness strong opposition, but if the peoples want something, nobody can break their will."

MBC TV Interview on the Spread of Islam in the U.S.

Host: "With us is Dr. Ahmad Dewidar, imam of Islamic Center in mid-New York and an Islamic culture professor at Manhattan University [sic]."

Dewidar: "In 1995 I heard some sermons that said that Muslims should march on the White House from some of the mosques."

Host: "What do you mean by 'march on the White House'"?

Dewidar: "One cleric said in his sermon: 'We are going to the White House, so that Islam will be victorious, Allah willing, and the White House will become into the Muslim house.'"

Host: "How? I don't understand."

Dewidar: "This is simply a slogan. I'm only saying this to..."

Host: "Are they going to occupy the White House or what?"

Dewidar: "No, they say that through the domination of Islam and its ideas, the White House will change."

Host: "This will happen one day, but not this way. Islam will be victorious, no doubt, but not this way."

Dewidar: "It will not happen unless the Muslims abandon their slogans and become a role model. If a Muslim doctor who invents a cure in the hospital or performs an important operation successfully – all the media will broadcast it live and announce it worldwide. The Muslim who makes do with breaking the wooden podium, with screaming, and with patronizing, condescending rhetoric that "Islam is coming, and it will change the face of the earth," while at the same time he cannot even change the face of the Islamic capitals, which overflow with garbage – this path will lead to no good."

Posted by: PlanetDan || 06/30/2005 13:57 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  the preachers had reached the level of demonstration of power and [they] were constantly reciting slogans rooted in the concept of Islamic sovereignty.

I interpret this to mean the imams had assumed they could start showing the "muscle" of Islam in the US, that they should start playing the "Islam is intended to rule" card. I also don't detect any disapproval from the "moderate", just a minor chiding that the imams moved too quickly.

Posted by: Robert Crawford || 06/30/2005 14:56 Comments || Top||

#2  Classic Slipspeak from the tricky one who rubs shoulders with the infidel. It's new world orders and jooooz everywhere for the poor devout doctor. What a nasty freak!
Posted by: Tkat || 06/30/2005 15:13 Comments || Top||

#3  Hundreds of Americans Converted to Islam in the Days Following 9/11

I'm sorry, but after 9-11 you couldnt find a person in this country that would admit to being muslim. Muslims were going around trying to convince people they were hindu or taoist or anything but muslim.
Posted by: Hupeanter Unomotle2128 || 06/30/2005 15:29 Comments || Top||

#4  It's scary to think that Islamic beliefs of hating infidels is growing stronger in this country, and actually organizing themselves. I would like to see everyone that is trying to become an american citizen, or that are here already, learn our ways, constitution among other doctrines and to pledge their love and devotion why else would you want to be here. To follow Islam and love Americans, and to fight for what we stand for, what a concept.
Dewidar thinks we'll forget 911? OMG
I think we need to scrutinize folks a bit more that we have been allowing into this country
Posted by: Jan || 06/30/2005 15:36 Comments || Top||

#5  Leading the U.S. Regime are Sharansky's Despicable Goals for the Middle East: Freedom, Democracy, Education, and Participation
Gasp and swoon, I've got the vapors! What a terrible
fate for all arabs! Freedom, democracy and education! What will become of islam if these incidious plans are materialized? It would be worse than New Coke!
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 06/30/2005 15:41 Comments || Top||

#6  I'm in Egypt talking to...one of us. Those dumbass ass Americans will...never know...never know...never know...
Posted by: tu3031 || 06/30/2005 15:47 Comments || Top||

#7  "As far as the American government is concerned, these events-- whether or not they were planned, or pinned on the Muslims, or something else-- provided an opportunity for [the American government] to legislate dubious laws that restrict the growth and presence of Islam in the U.S., such as the [anti-]terrorism law, and other laws."

This paragraph smacks of presupposition: if anti-terrorism law restrict the growth of a religion (certainly not Catholicism or Judeaism, but only Islam), then do you actually have religion at all, or rather a para-military induction center? Allan's Religion of Pieces is thusly fingered by a "moderate" as not compatible with a society trying to protect itself.
Posted by: Armchair in Sin || 06/30/2005 15:57 Comments || Top||

#8  although he doesnt advocate terror, and is even careful to avoid actually saying "9/11 was not done by muslims" I agree this guys no moderate. Not of the kind we need, anyway. Illustrates how many gradients there are, between actual terrorists at one end, and bona fide moderates on the other.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 06/30/2005 16:50 Comments || Top||

#9  Although a large part of American society believes that 9/11 was an operation planned and fabricated in order to forge a new reality of world rule under the so-called 'New World Order...

Er, huh? This is true. Bin Laden hoped to bring about a New World Order by cowing the US into abandoning Israel, leaving Saudi Arabia, curling up its toes and dying, etc. Didn't quite work out as anticipated.
Posted by: Angie Schultz || 06/30/2005 17:17 Comments || Top||

#10  if anti-terrorism law restrict the growth of a religion (certainly not Catholicism or Judeaism, but only Islam), then do you actually have religion at all, or rather a para-military induction center?

This is a rhetorical question, innit?
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 06/30/2005 17:53 Comments || Top||

#11  Not to minimize the impact of billions of sexually repressed wacko's whipped into a blind killing frenzy, but ....

Bin Laden's finest moment - his only true moment in the sun, turned out to be, in fact, a failure of such enormous proportions that his followers, his true believers - those who should have admired it most, have denied him his credit and attributed his "victory" to his arch enemy, George W. Bush.

Who says our God doesn't have a sense of humor???
Posted by: 2b || 06/30/2005 17:56 Comments || Top||

#12  Of course it is, RC. I already know the answer (BOOM) ;)
Posted by: Armchair in Sin || 06/30/2005 18:14 Comments || Top||


Bush issues WMD order on North Korea, Iran, Syria
WASHINGTON - US President George W. Bush gave US authorities new powers on Wednesday to block assets of companies believed to be helping North Korea, Iran and Syria pursue nuclear, biological and chemical weapons. The executive order did not mention specific countries, instead saying it applied to “any person or foreign country of proliferation concern.” A US official said that, for now, the administration is targeting four entities from Iran, three from North Korea and one from Syria.

The move was another step in US efforts to overhaul intelligence agencies that have been sharply criticised since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks for failing to uncover that plot and faulty prewar judgments that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. “By applying these powers against weapons of mass destruction, we deny proliferators and their supporters access to the US financial system and starve them of funds needed to build deadly weapons and threaten innocents around the globe,” US Treasury Secretary John Snow said.

The order responded to concerns expressed by a presidential commission that issued a report in March criticizing US intelligence efforts on weapons of mass destruction. The White House said it endorsed 70 of 74 recommendations, will further study three and will not implement one classified recommendation.

In accepting the commission’s recommendations, President George W. Bush has directed that a new National Security Service be created inside the FBI to combine the bureau’s counterterrorism, counterintelligence and intelligence efforts. Bush also endorsed the establishment of a National Counter Proliferation Center to manage and coordinate intelligence activities on the proliferation of nuclear, biological and chemical weapons.
Posted by: Steve White || 06/30/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Focus. Ignore the crap, the ankle-biters, the second-guessers. Get the best input you can, decide what makes sense given the knowns and best-guess on the unknowns. Organize. Execute. Focus.
Posted by: .com || 06/30/2005 0:15 Comments || Top||

#2  Dittos .com
*****
semi informed thoughts,
Bush takes common sense action, he walks *instead of* spouting streams of nuanced wonky-talk(clintoon & Skerry) at press conferences and photo ops. ya gotta love it.

In accepting the commission’s recommendations, President George W. Bush has directed that a new National Security Service be created inside the FBI to combine the bureau’s counterterrorism, counterintelligence and intelligence efforts. Bush also endorsed the establishment of a National Counter Proliferation Center to manage and coordinate intelligence activities on the proliferation of nuclear, biological and chemical weapons.

>FBI: they need huge cut in budget and a new mission, they should be tasked with one thing, to keep track of all the paper clips in Washington and keep them under surveillance.

>CIA? Go Goss Go!

> I do have some confidence in Negroponte and Michael Chertoff. I remember Negroponte when he pulled El Salvador out of the clutches of some nasty commie rat bastards. He's tough, he can take heat. Chertoff is tough, I just hope he's tough enough.


Sort of on topic?[The Supersized asshats.. binny, Zark, Alzwah, haven't pulled any big ones off for quite awile now.]

> Bio is probably the most likely and therefore the greatest risk for mass murder and or economic-dammage op in our country. (so called experts think) but a series of truck bombs could take out leadership and do alot of damage also.

I heard a report today about two Iraqis who were busted @ the Mexican border. Fox News tv. but I haven't found it since.

Europe there's the Tour..big symbol. I hate to even think about it.
say doom.
Posted by: Red Dog || 06/30/2005 1:07 Comments || Top||

#3  Heh, RD. "say doom" - You sound like you need to attend the Rantapalooza, bro.
Posted by: .com || 06/30/2005 1:16 Comments || Top||

#4  Great comment, .com. They just went on my weblog's masthead.
Posted by: Ptah || 06/30/2005 5:05 Comments || Top||

#5  Red Dog -- you don't mention the need for a purge at State. IMHO, we need to either have a complete turn over in the staff there, eliminating the Cold War-era moles, or cut their power to the point they're nothing but glorified couriers.

They certainly shouldn't have any authority over visas, and everyone in State now and who's retired over the last thirty years should be audited under a microscope to make sure they've not been on the take.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 06/30/2005 7:39 Comments || Top||

#6  I think screwing with the Tour would be a huge mistake. It's the one thing that would put the population of Italy and France on our side. Therefore of course illogical and thus possible. Also French Grand Prix is this weekend, I figure a Bridgestone inspired terrorist act.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2005 10:06 Comments || Top||

#7  Now if Bush can form the "National Security Service" insde the FBI, then rip it out and let it stand on its own under DHS instead of the Attorney General...

Then we would have something that would work. And the FBI could go back to doing what they do best: chasing serial killers and people who share MP3 files.
Posted by: OldSpook || 06/30/2005 10:11 Comments || Top||

#8  ...share MP3 files.

OldSpook..wicked chilly...dude!

Posted by: Red Dog || 06/30/2005 12:05 Comments || Top||

#9  chasing serial killers

of course, it would be nicer if they would catch them.
Posted by: 2b || 06/30/2005 13:21 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
3 JI suspects arrested in the Philippines
Police authorities presented on Wednesday three suspected members of the Jemaah Islamiyah (JI). The suspects were identified as Ustadz Norodin Mangelen, allegedly the local JI liaison officer for Central Mindanao, Pedro Guiamat and Ali Salipada. Police said Mangelen was arrested in Datu Odin Sinsuat, Maguindanao on June 16, Guiamat on June 18 while Salipada was arrested on June 20. All the suspects were being linked to the deadly Davao Airport bombing and the December 2004 explosion here.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 06/30/2005 09:54 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Bush Wants Answers on Iranian Leader's Past
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WASHINGTON — The Bush administration today demanded that the Iranian government clarify the role of President-elect Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in the 1979 storming of the U.S. Embassy in Tehran and the prolonged hostage crisis that followed.

The administration also pledged to conduct its own investigation into Ahmadinejad's past after several of the 52 Americans held hostage in the embassy said in tough, unequivocal statements that they had recognized the next Iranian leader as one of their captors.

However, at least two other former hostages said they were unable to recall the president-elect as a participant in their ordeal.

"The Iranian government ... has an obligation to speak definitively concerning these questions that have been raised in public," State Department spokesman Sean McCormack told reporters.

Both McCormack and White House spokesman Scott McClellan said that the United States would launch its own efforts to determine Ahmadinejad's precise role in the crisis.

"I think the news reports and statements from several former American hostages raise many questions about his past," McClellan told reporters. "We take them very seriously and we are looking into them to better understand the facts."

The 444-day ordeal of the Americans held captive in the Tehran embassy marked one of the most searing and emotional collective public experiences in recent American history, an incident that still weighs heavily on the Iranian-American relationship.

The two countries have had no formal diplomatic ties since the takeover despite the passing of more than a quarter-century. It was not clear how the new allegations might affect the struggle within the Bush administration over how to deal with Tehran.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 06/30/2005 17:39 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  makes him a double-target for take-out
Posted by: Frank G || 06/30/2005 17:44 Comments || Top||

#2  If God and his devine creations thought this spawn of Satan was evil before, just watch for the sequels. There is a good chance that the other dawgs from Satan's little kitchen of horrors will bring him down on their own. "Caine no mangia Caine" doesn't apply here. Trust the one and only true God to be entertained by this evil clown of Lucifer and smite him with his own evil means. God is just, and it is just a matter of time that true belivers will be rewarded by God's justice to erase this genetic mistake from the planet of his creation. Take heart and watch this clown be torn apart.
Posted by: Fun Dung Poo || 06/30/2005 18:17 Comments || Top||

#3  The Bush administration today demanded that the Iranian government clarify the role of President-elect Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in the 1979 storming of the U.S. Embassy in Tehran and the prolonged hostage crisis that followed.

And what if Ahmadinejad was indeed involved? What are they going to do, threaten to prosecute him? Priority one is getting the mullah government toppled and their nuke program neutralized, then we can see about getting our hands on the perpetrators/participants of the '79 hostage-taking later on.

For heaven's sake, dispense with the bluster; we're better off working quietly, and springing the trap when the enemy least expects it.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 06/30/2005 18:31 Comments || Top||

#4  "However", at least two other former hostages currently diagnosed with Alzheimers disease said they were unable to recall the president-elect as a participant in their ordeal so the rest may be right wing neo-conservative Bushitler nazis co-conspirators.
Posted by: Mac Suirtain || 06/30/2005 18:33 Comments || Top||

#5  Useful to establish the principle that we can't trust a regime that puts a hostage-taker at the top. So when Iran denies that they intend to lob nukes onto Israel and ship 'em to the US, it's somewhat easier to state: "The man is a criminal and we can't trust him."

Syria. Iran. Saudi Arabia.

What are we in Iraq for? the war is far from over. Military action fits within a purpose. The liberation of Iraq is a means,
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 06/30/2005 19:39 Comments || Top||

#6  Syria. Iran. Saudi Arabia.

You'll notice, Kalle, that all three nations you mentioned have a common border with Iraq. Iran is caught between Iraq and Afghanistan. Syria is caught between Iraq and the Med (plus Lebanon). Saudi Arabia has three vulnerable sides - Iraq, the Persian Gulf (where we have scores of warships), and the Gulf of Aqaba/Red Sea.

Who says Bush isn't smart?
Posted by: Old Patriot || 06/30/2005 21:03 Comments || Top||

#7  All I'm saying is: FASTER, PLEASE!

Afghanistan and Iraq are steps. The tempo has to rise if Islamofascists are not to cause mass destruction on Moslem lands and ours.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 06/30/2005 21:33 Comments || Top||


Hezbollah Attack Wounds 6 Israeli Soldiers
Hezbollah guerrillas attacked Israeli forces in a disputed part of the south Lebanon border Wednesday, wounding six soldiers and triggering an Israeli airstrike. Israeli and Arab television reports said at least one Hezbollah fighter was killed, but an official for the militant group said he had no word of casualties. The guerrillas attacked three Israeli positions in Shebaa Farms, an area where the borders of Lebanon, Syria and Israel meet, with mortars and rocket-propelled grenades, Hezbollah's Al Manar TV channel and Lebanese security officials said.

In Israel, the country's northern commander, Maj. Gen. Benny Gantz, reiterated calls for the Lebanese government to rein in Hezbollah, saying the exchange began when Hezbollah guerrillas infiltrated across the border. "The Lebanese government has to act," Gantz said. "Hezbollah is always trying to be an active guerrilla group."

The Israeli Defense Force said Hezbollah mounted a coordinated attack, firing mortar shells and small arms at one of their bases in Chebaa Farms. Six soldiers were wounded in the clash, one seriously, an IDF official said, speaking on customary condition of anonymity. In response, Israeli warplanes struck Hezbollah positions in south Lebanon, the Israeli officials said. Lebanese security officials said Israeli warplanes fired six missiles at suspected hideouts near Kfar Chouba and Chebaa village. Israeli TV reported one Hezbollah fighter was killed, but did not give a source. The pan-Arab Al-Arabiya TV said two Hezbollah gunmen were killed.
Posted by: Fred || 06/30/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Israeli TV reported one Hezbollah fighter was killed
The pan-Arab Al-Arabiya TV said two Hezbollah gunmen were killed.
My take....12 terrs KIA, 4 busted for wiping with the right hand, 1 stoned to death for not bowing low enough to a skewer of kefteh. Hey, I can totally see the last one...I love kefteh. ooooh and basterma.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 06/30/2005 0:56 Comments || Top||

#2  Hezbollah guerrillas attacked Israeli forces in a disputed part of the south Lebanon border

How can it be disputed if the UN accepts the border as it is, after the Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon?
Posted by: Slurt Spiper7335 || 06/30/2005 8:15 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks & Islam
Iran's new president declares worldwide 'Islamic revolution'
Oboy. Another declaration of war by an Islamist nutbag. And here I'd been thinking we were gonna thump Iran over its nuke program.
Posted by: WITT || 06/30/2005 21:21 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Bring it on baby. We can't wait to rip you guys a new you know what...
Posted by: WITT || 06/30/2005 21:31 Comments || Top||

#2  January 21, 2008: America's newly sworn-in President, Republican John Abizaid, declares Iran to "glow from many miles away" after multiple Trident submarine launched, multi-warhead nuclear missiles struck the radical Islamic nuclear power early this morning.
Posted by: Omavitch Cravitch1380 || 06/30/2005 21:33 Comments || Top||

#3  Dam! I meant January 21, 2009!
Posted by: Omavitch Cravitch1380 || 06/30/2005 21:38 Comments || Top||

#4  That's OK..its the thought that counts.
Posted by: WITT || 06/30/2005 21:44 Comments || Top||

#5  The Russian communists also announced worldwide revolution and got their mass-murders going on for seven decades. And that nightmare isn't over yet, with China, North Korea, Zimbabwe, Cuba, and Venezuela prime grounds for evil.

Are we going to tolerate the Islamist mass-murderers for another 50 years, or cut their knees now? the Iranian theocrats has given enough speeches and announcements.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 06/30/2005 21:47 Comments || Top||

#6  I announce myself King of the Universe.

He pronouncement is about of equal value.
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom || 06/30/2005 21:51 Comments || Top||

#7  I don't know, SPOD - do you have multiple armies with war-heads ready and able to take you, and thousands of your closest friends, out in a matter of just minutes? :-)
Posted by: 2b || 06/30/2005 21:54 Comments || Top||

#8  The dude hasn't even been in for a week and he picks a fight with the largest army in the world. That's initiative.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 06/30/2005 21:57 Comments || Top||

#9  I hope the Islamic Revolution comes to my home town. We will know how to answer it.
Posted by: SR-71 || 06/30/2005 21:59 Comments || Top||

#10  Turbans make good targets
Posted by: Frank G || 06/30/2005 22:40 Comments || Top||

#11  C'mon, Bush, WHACK these bastards!!!
Posted by: Dave D. || 06/30/2005 22:47 Comments || Top||

#12  Oh GREAT, now lil' Kimmie's going to poke his head up again! Just when I thought all was quieting down. What is it with these goons? It's all "Look at me, America, look at me!" And this declaration doesn't do much to convince me he WASN'T involved in '79 (much to CNN's chagrin).
Posted by: BA || 06/30/2005 23:04 Comments || Top||

#13  Unlike some, I'm really quite pleased this dipswitch has been so forthcoming about what he means to do. Like our current President, we should consider him a man who says what he means and expect that he will act accordingly. That way, when the shooting starts it will be crystal clear who planned to do what to whom, and even the most nutjob liberal can't play the moral equivalency game and expect to be treated as sane. I'm more worried about what this asshat will bring to our shores immediately. Look around my friends and see the 5th column that our immigration policy has brought us. Hizbollah is here now, in numbers, and expect them to bring their courageous strategy of anonymous kaboom to a mall near you.....
'bout the third messy mall scene and watch who screams the loudest about rounding people up and sending them back. Sad to say, but a coming attraction folks! Ain't all that diversity and multi-culturalism grand?
Posted by: Just About Enough! || 06/30/2005 23:15 Comments || Top||

#14  JAE - right on. No deceptions
Posted by: Frank G || 06/30/2005 23:19 Comments || Top||

#15  Is it to soon to call him the "Howard Dean" of Iran?
Posted by: Anonymoose || 06/30/2005 23:33 Comments || Top||

#16  To paraphrase Dubya's speech, the THIRD/GLOBAL WORLD WAR is raging, and America and Americans are all in a KILL OR BE KILLED SITUATION, and we are regardless of whether one believes the threat to America is from Radical Islam or Socialism-COmmunism, ONE ANDOR BOTH OF THEM!? NEITHER THE FAILED/ANGRY LEFT NOR RADICAL ISLAMISTS CARE ABOUT "INTERNATIONAL/GEOPOL EQUALISM" ANYMORE, IF THEY EVER DID - AMERICA AS WE KNOW IT EITHER LIVES, OR IT WILL DIE, PURE AND SIMPLE, BY LEFT=POLICRAT BELOVED, PC of the PC, "ANY EACH EVERY AND ALL MEANS NECESSARY"!?
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 06/30/2005 23:55 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Afghan Interior Ministry spokesman denies minister’s resignation
Text of report by Arman FM radio, Kabul 1030 gmt 27 Jun 05
[Announcer] Unconfirmed reports say that Ali Ahmed Jalali, the minister of internal affairs, has resigned. It is said that Mr Jalali has submitted his resignation to the president of Afghanistan. However, a spokesman for the Ministry of Internal Affairs, Lotfollah Mashal, said that the minister had not submitted his resignation officially. He insisted that Mr Jalali had been carrying out tremendous efforts against drug-traffickers. Mashal declined to give more details.

[Mashal in Dari] The minister of internal affairs did not submit his resignation officially and I cannot say anything more in this regard. Ahmed Jalali has been carrying out tremendous efforts against drug-traffickers and those people involved in the drug-trafficking are working in government departments. If there is some personal reason for his resignation I do not have information on this. The minister of internal affairs attended the cabinet meeting which was held today.
Posted by: Fred || 06/30/2005 12:07:30 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  He forgot to notorize the document.
Posted by: Super Hose || 06/30/2005 17:59 Comments || Top||


Afghan Minister Ali Jalali Alleged to have brokered arrest of Americans
Thursday, June 30, 2005 12:34 AM

BREAKING NEWS- AFGHANISTAN:Minister Jalali was the man that brokered the illegal arrest of American Green Beret Jack Idema and his men with the FBI. Lutfallah Mashal is the Ministry Spokesman that previously worked for FOX News (who Idema was suing) and Kabul Times.
Mashal was also the person who WAS THE ANONYMOUS OFFICIAL SOURCE that claimed IDEMA had his terrorist captives hanging upside down (now completely proved to false). Although most press reports removed Mashal's name a few did report it in the initial days. Journalists INTENTIONALLY referred to Mashal as an anonymous source because, as Carlotta Gall of the NY Times has stated, "Nothing Mashal says can be considered the truth... he lies about everything."

Mashal's Picture can be seen at:www.superpatriots.us/lyingsources/
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BREAKING NEWS - Afghan Interior Minister Resigns
Afghan's interior minister has tendered resignation, AIP and Kabul News say
Jalali Resigns- Major Changes Rumored in Afghan Government Power Shift back to mujahedeen imminent as Karzai negotiates to save his presidency
Kyodo (Kyodo) - Afghan Interior Minister Ali Ahmad Jalali secretly tendered his resignation last week because of differences with President Hamid Karzai over the appointment of provincial governors and administration officials, Afghan Islamic Press reported Monday night.

AIP quoted "extremely reliable sources in Kabul" as saying Karzai has not accepted the resignation and some groups are trying to broker a reconciliation between Jalali and Karzai. Jalali, however, is unwilling to withdraw the resignation, the sources said.

Karzai announced a shuffle of governors in four major provinces --Kabul, Kandahar, Ningarhar and Ghazni -- last week.

Sources inside the government say that Jalali's resignation was pressured by forces loyal to deceased Northern Alliance Commander Ahmad Shah Massoud. And that any inferences that Karzai does not want to accept the resignation are simply for public relations purposes.

With Jalili will leave several key ministry officials, including the Ministry of Interior spokesman, Lutfallay Mashal. Other ministers, including the Minister of Defense, are rumored to be stepping down shortly.

More than 20,000 Massoud loyalists are known to have amassed in the Panjsher Valley, one of the last places of resistance against the Taliban before the Northern Alliance, backed by the U.S., drove the Taliban from Northern and central Afghanistan in 2001 and 2002.

Political opponents of Karzai have voiced their concern and rejection of a government they say is controlled by the U.S. Embassy, and Ministers appointed because they have links to the United States, or U.S. citizenship.

Jalali has also been linked to payoffs from Russian and Pakistani intelligence agencies. One statement is prevalent in Afghan political circles, the Northern Alliance soldiers, known as the mujahedeen, have rejected Taliban leaders returning to their government and government amnesty for terrorists. They want control of their country back, and are willing to fight for it.
Source is: BBC/Afghan Islamic Press/Cheragh Daily
Posted by: Glavimble Flereper5982 || 06/30/2005 11:13 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "payoffs from Russian and Pakistani intelligence agencies. "

getting payoffs from BOTH the Russkies (pro-NA) and the Pakis (sympathetic to ex-Taliban) would be a very neat trick.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 06/30/2005 12:22 Comments || Top||

#2  OMG! It's not the end of the world.

The NA are still the good guy's.
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom || 06/30/2005 13:17 Comments || Top||


Tales from the Crossfire Gazette
Bandit killed in Ctg crossfire
CHITTAGONG, June 29: - An alleged robber was killed in a gunfight late last night between police and robbers at city’s Pahartali area under Khulshi police station. Police recovered a Light Gun (LG) including five rounds live ammunition from the spot. Police could not identify the identity of the victim.
"well, he's dead, whoever he is"
Police sources said that a patrol team of Khulshi police station had challenged a group of youths in front of the Pahartali Girls’ School at about 12:20 a.m. when the youths were moving around the area.
Sniffing around, trying to get lucky
At a stage, youths tried to flee away the spot and police chased them.
"Hey, get back here!"
Police officials claimed that the unidentified youths opened fire aiming police and police also replied to the attackers by opening fire.
"BANG! We said STOP, dammit!"
One of the youth came under the line of fire sustained bullet wounds. Police sent the wounded person to Chittagong Medical College Hospital Level One Trama Center and Coffee Shop for medication where the attending physicians declared him dead.
All together now; "He's dead, Jim"
On the other hand, Rapid Action Battalion (RAB), in a raid conducted late last night at city’s Batali Road area under Kotwali police station detained a culprit and recovered arms and ammunition from his possession. The detainee was identified as Mohammad Monjur Morshed (27), son of shafiul Azam. The RAB personnel recovered two knives and a revolver including its 6 rounds live ammunition from his residence. The detainee was handed over to the Kotwali police station and a case was filed in this connection.

Rab rescues Habiganj trader from abductors
Rab yesterday rescued a Habiganj businessman from captivity at Rampura in Dhaka and arrested three abductors from the house where he had been confined to. Mohammad Tipu Chowdhury was kidnapped from the capital's Bangla Motor Monday. Rab-2 could not, however, get hold of mastermind Saiful.
I'm sure he'll turn up, sooner or later.
The arrestees are Zakir Hossain Bahadur, 23, Dipan Chakma Bitu, 24, and Nazrul Islam, 23.
The rescued businessman told private news agency BDNEWS that four criminals abducted him in front of the Daily Janakantha office around 9:30pm on June 27. "The criminals took me to Saiful's rented house at 245 Zakir Gali at East Rampura and confined me inside a room," Tipu said. "They demanded Tk 3 lakh from me as ransom and threatened to kill me if I did not oblige them." "I rang up my younger brother Ripon in Habiganj and asked him to come to Dhaka with the money and contact them," continued Tipu.
Ripon tipped off the Rab-2 men, who instructed him to carry the money to Rampura.
Smart boy
When he went there, the elite anticrime force members in plainclothes caught the three abductors. No case was filed until 6:00pm.

Arms seized, one held by RAB in city
June 29: The Rapid Action Battalion (RAB) arrested a businessman last night for allegedly possessing illegal firearms. RAB also seized firearms from his residence. The arrested person is identified as Monjur Morshed, a shop owner of Reazuddin Bazar in Chittagong.
Acting on a secret information, a team of RAB raided his residence at Pathorghata and seized one gun and bullets. According to the statement of his wife, Monjur Morshed took the gun and bullets from one of his friends for his personal security three years ago. RAB team went to the shop of the said businessman and arrested him from the spot for possessing illegal firearms without a properly paid for permit. A case was filed in this connection.

Two children rescued from trafficker
BARISAL:June 29: Local people rescued two school children and detained a trafficker at Alekanda Amtala area in the city one June 27. The trafficker was given a mass beating and then handed over to the police.
Sources said Shakil, a student of class three of Kishore Majlish Primary School and Rahat, a student of class four of Government Staff Quarters Primary School were acquainted with Atiqur Rahman, an employee of Barisal Shebachim Hospital two weeks ago. Since then Atiqur had been alluring the two school children to go his residence at Textile Institute at C&B road.
"Hey kids, want some....candy?"
On June 27, Atique intercepted Shakil and Rahat on their way home at Amtala after the break of classes and had been alluring them to go to his residence. The people from a slight distance saw the matter, rushed to the spot, detained Atique, gave him a mass beating and handed him over to the police.
I love a happy ending
Posted by: Steve || 06/30/2005 11:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Does the phrase "given a mass beating and then handed over to the police" bring a smile to anyone else's face?
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 06/30/2005 12:29 Comments || Top||

#2  Lol, RC! I read it (just) before I saw your comment and it was like good stage timing - deadpan delivery - with a punch, heh!

Why is this so appealing? I shouldn't be laughing. It's bad. Vigilante stuff. Violence. Violence is bad. We all know it. Somebody or other said so in school. Bad, really bad. And I fuckin' love it! Lol! I must be bad. Lol!
Posted by: .com || 06/30/2005 12:47 Comments || Top||

#3  I am for mass beatings, it learns them good. Then passing them to the police. Justice done swift and sure.

The RAB must be on a streak of bad luck. No Crossfire ™ reports.
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom || 06/30/2005 13:27 Comments || Top||

#4  The RAB personnel recovered two knives and a revolver including its 6 rounds live ammunition from his residence. The detainee was handed over to the Kotwali police station and a case was filed in this connection
To be continued?
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2005 13:50 Comments || Top||

#5  Well, they do have to question him and see if he has any more arms stashed behind a deserted brickyard somewhere.
Posted by: Steve || 06/30/2005 15:30 Comments || Top||

#6  I'm putting money on a weapons stash, maybe even a light gun, let's see.... 10 time zones? maker it 0230 in Pak. BANG!
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2005 16:13 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
"Resistance" Fighters get US-Citizen Voice
EFL - buried at the end of an Operation Sword article

In another development, former Cabinet member Ayham al-Samarie announced that he has formed the National Council for Unity and Construction of Iraq to give representation to Iraqi fighters. Al-Samarie, a dual Iraq-U.S. citizen, is thought to have strong tribal links throughout the Sunni triangle, where the Sunni branch of the insurgency is concentrated.

The announcement on Wednesday marked the most serious effort to date to draw disenfranchised Sunnis into the political process. It followed confirmation from U.S. officials including Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld that the United States has negotiated with some insurgents.

At a news conference in a Baghdad home, al-Samarie said the new political front is representing "resistance" fighters who have not carried out attacks against civilians. Except by demolishing thier electricity and water supplies?
Nearly all car bomb and homicide attacks carried out against Iraqis are thought to be the work of Islamic extremist groups such as Al Qaeda in Iraq. But at least one prominent Shiite legislator dismissed al-Samarie's effort.

"The general terrorist program is to attack electricity plants, water and oil pipelines, mosques, churches and to target the innocents, police and the army. These are terrorist acts, and cannot be represented as acts of resistance," said the legislator, Saad Jawad Qandil. It's a fine line, Saad...

The insurgents al-Samarie represents want U.S. troops to leave Iraq in one to three years the old "timetable" trick! and military campaigns against Iraqi cities and towns to end, al-Samarie said. They won't put down their arms unless all their goals are met, he added.

A British newspaper this week reported that al-Samarie brokered two recent meetings between U.S. officials and a group of rebels. Al-Samarie confirmed the talks but wouldn't give details. Al-Samarie was electricity minister in the interim government and comes from Samarra, an insurgent stronghold 60 miles north of Baghdad.
Posted by: Bobby || 06/30/2005 08:19 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The sunnis make up 15-20% of the country, they cant expect to run the whole show under a democratic system. Personally, my advice would be to kill myself if I were a sunni. Then you can make a pollitical statement, get probably a few virgins or something, maybe even an AK-47 in the afterlife.
Posted by: Bigjim-ky || 06/30/2005 9:01 Comments || Top||

#2  Ok, here's the deal: We really don't want to stop killing you assholes by the carload, but our friends here say it would be really helpful, so we'll take their word for it. But get this, and get it good - You are to dissapear, vanish, vaporize. Blend in to your society and don't cause trouble, at least not shooting type trouble. If we ever even hear your names again, we will be back to finish the damn job.

That is all.
Posted by: mojo || 06/30/2005 11:30 Comments || Top||

#3  mojo...to expand on your post, we need to also ear-tag this creatures (just like Wild Kingdom) while they're at the meeting, to make it easier to round 'em up later!!

Posted by: Justrand || 06/30/2005 12:15 Comments || Top||

#4  "Resistance" Fighters get US-Citizen Voice

Lessee . . . they've already got Michael Moore, Dick Durbin, Ted Kennedy, Robert Scheer, the entire staff of The Nation, Daily Kos, Democrat Underground, and Howard Dean. Why do they need another one?
Posted by: Mike || 06/30/2005 13:00 Comments || Top||

#5  Ya know, I made the snide remarks in the original post, assuming this "dual Iraq-U.S. citizen" was a leftie islamofastshit©. (I never could spell fascist.) It is possible he could be pulling the two sides together, isn't it? I mean, maybe he'll turn out to be a hero, yes? Maybe?
Posted by: Bobby || 06/30/2005 14:06 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Landmine near CM's house
Quetta: Police found an anti-tank landmine planted near the house of the Balochistan chief minister in Kalat, 145km southeast of here, on Tuesday. The landmine had been planted along a road leading to the house of Chief Minister Jam Mohammad Yousuf, a police officer in Kalat confirmed on telephone and said that it was defused.
Do you get the impression somebody's out to seriously get this guy? I mean, if I knew somebody who wore a hat like that, I'd probably rocket his house and set land mines along his route home, but I thought that was just me...
Posted by: Fred || 06/30/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What would be President Truman's opinion on it? Inquiring minds want to know!
Posted by: Ptah || 06/30/2005 5:19 Comments || Top||

#2  Fred, I think you put these stories on just so you can throw in that pic and we can all rag on that funky chapeau...
Posted by: tu3031 || 06/30/2005 8:21 Comments || Top||

#3  Unfortunately, it's made out of carbon fiber, and protects against shrapnel...
Posted by: Phil Fraering || 06/30/2005 8:58 Comments || Top||

#4  Honet to Gawd, I'd never heard of the guy before they started shooting him up...
Posted by: Fred || 06/30/2005 8:58 Comments || Top||

#5  So that's where my grandmothers tea cozy went to.
Posted by: Steve || 06/30/2005 9:49 Comments || Top||

#6  Uh huh.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2005 9:49 Comments || Top||

#7  Unfortunately, it's made out of carbon fiber,

I'm definitely going to use it now...
Posted by: Lance Armstrong || 06/30/2005 11:46 Comments || Top||


Kashmir Korpse Kount
SRINAGAR, India - A suspected Islamic terrorist militant and three policemen were killed in a fierce gunbattle, while eight people were injured in two attacks by terrorists rebels in restive Indian Kashmir, police said on Wednesday.

The gunbattle erupted late Tuesday when troops and police surrounded a house in southern Doda district where the terrorists militants were hiding, a police spokesman said. “Terrorists Militants opened fire on troops who were closing in on them,” the spokesman said, adding that police and troops returned fire. “Two policemen who tried to storm the house in an attempt to kill the terrorists militants were killed the moment they stepped into the house,” he said.

“In the ensuing gunbattle one terrorist militant and another policeman died and three houses were damaged.”

Two policemen and two civilians were injured in a grenade attack by suspected terrorists rebels in the heart of the summer capital Srinagar on Wednesday, a police spokesman said. The attack on police was near the high-security federal telecommunications headquarters and the main office of India’s ruling Congress party.

Four soldiers were injured in an ambush by suspected terrorists militants late Tuesday in the northern district of Kupwara, police said.

None of the one dozen terrorist rebel groups active in Kashmir has claimed responsibility for the two attacks.
Posted by: Steve White || 06/30/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Iraq-Jordan
Terrorist on Saudi wanted list captured in Iraq: report
CAIRO - London-based al-Sharq al-Awsat newspaper reported on Wednesday that Abdullah al-Romyan, a terrorist on Saudi Arabia’s most wanted list, was arrested by Kurdish forces in northern Iraq.
He wasn't on Emily's List.
Points off for spelling. They're referring to Abdullah Mohamed Al-Rumayan, Numbah 17...
“We want him and believe he is a very important suspect,” the report quoted a Saudi security force source as saying.
"And when we get him it's grape juice for everyone!" he added.
Al-Romyan’s name appears on a new list released on Tuesday by the Saudi government of 36 wanted terrorists in the kingdom. In addition to al-Romyan, the list includes 29 Saudis, three Chadians, a Kuwaiti, a Yemeni and a Mauritanian. Al-Romyan’s brother is believed to have killed 11 policemen in a suicide bomb attack in Mosul in January 2004.

Moroccan national Younes Mohammed Ibrahim al-Hayari, 36, heads the list of Al Qaeda suspects and is believed to be the leader of the terror group’s cells in Saudi Arabia. Al-Hayari has more experience of fighting than the younger Saudi members of the group, having fought in the war in Bosnia-Herzegovina, the security source said. The Moroccan is said to have entered Saudi Arabia in 2001 on a Bosnian passport. Al-Hayari has good contacts with Al Qaeda terrorists outside Saudi Arabia and is responsible for financing and organizing the terror cells in the kingdom, the source said.

Terrorism experts have expressed concern that increasing pressure from manhunts in Saudi Arabia may have pushed some extremists into leaving the country to join terror groups in Iraq. The news comes as Saudi Interior Minister Prince Naif bin Abdulaziz said that security forces have caught 90 per cent of the people responsible for terrorist acts in the kingdom, the Saudi Press Agency reported on Wednesday. “We have not said that terror acts are over. The possibility of crimes still stands, but in 90 per cent of these acts, the perpetrators were caught by security forces,” Naif said at a press conference after a graduation ceremony in Riyadh late Tuesday.
When do the beheadings start? I won't believe they're serious until they do some public beheadings.
Naif pointed out that the suspects on a previous list of 26 and the new suspects belong to the same organization, Al Qaeda, despite some differences in structure. In response to a question whether some of the wanted terrorists are in Iraq, Naif said there was no information about their location or if they are alive or not. Naif noted that the suspects on the new list may not be the most dangerous and there could be more dangerous individuals who have not been identified so far.
Posted by: Steve White || 06/30/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Phonetically speaking, they're all dead, but all still on the loose. It's akin to being surrounded by Nayef's Nuisance Brigade.
Posted by: .com || 06/30/2005 1:20 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Alleged militant ‘enjoys police patronage’
Golly. Shucks. That's never happened before...
MULTAN: A pronounced activist of a banned militant outfit has allegedly been enjoying association with a band of local police officials, who have otherwise got out-of-turn promotions for their ‘achievements’ in tracking down extremist elements in the area. A source in the police department told Dawn that Ibraheem Madni was rounded up along with four others earlier this month in a kidnapping for ransom case, but his arrest was yet to be brought on record.
What I get out of this hodge-podge is that Ibraheem is a bad boy, probably affiliated with Harkatul Mujaheddin or a similar organization on the banned list — he doesn't appear to be a sectarian krazed killer, unless Dr. Zaheer's a Shiite, which is entirely possible...
It may be added here that some five armed people had kidnapped Dr Zaheer on June 8 last on the Vehari Road when he was on his way home from his clinic. Two of the kidnappers had slipped into his car while the other three followed them for a while by another car up to the motorway link road. The two cars later departed near Mauza Kotheywal. The doctor and his two kidnappers were going to pass Chauki Balel when a police party spotted them and signalled them to stop.
"[BANG!] Halt or we'll shoot!"
A shootout ensued when the outlaws accelerated.
"Coppers! Gun it, Arshad!"
Later, Dr Zaheer claimed that the kidnappers were holding him at gunpoint, but the police showed no mercy and kept on firing. When a bullet struck him, the kidnappers ran away leaving him in the car.
"Ow! Ooowwwwww!"
"The doc's hit! Cheezit!"
The police allegedly chased and arrested them. They were identified as Ansar and Arshad. The source said the police asked the arrested outlaws to make calls to their accomplices, who by then must have reached their hideout in New Multan area’s Gulshan market.
"Hello?"
"Ummmm... Boss?"
"Arshad! Where are you?"
"We're... ummm... at the cop shoppe..."
The three others fell into the police trap.
"Stick 'em up!"
"Curses! Foiled again!"
They were identified as Awais, Mujahid and Ibraheem Madni. Arshad and Ansar were shot dead the same day in an encounter with police while Awais and Mujahid were charge-sheeted in the Dr Zaheer kidnapping case.
So lemme get this straight: the gullible pair fell into the police trap, but weren't arrested, but got bumped off later in the same day, presumably holding up a liquor store or something, right?... No. Wait. The gullible pair fell into the police trap because of Arshad and Ansar. The gullible pair, which was Awais and Mujahid, were arrested, Arshad and Ansar walked, held up a liquor store, and were shot to shreds by the local equivalent of RAB. Ibraheem, meanwhile, sits around the cop shoppe, smoking cigarettes and drinking beer and swapping tall tales with the boyz in blue because he's a preferred customer. I think.
However, the arrest of Madni has yet to be put on record even after 19 days. The police source said Madni and Ali Sher, an alleged Al-Qaeda operative recently arrested by the Multan police, were on the list provided by the country’s premier intelligence agency to the police viz-a-viz militants who hailed from Multan and remained engaged in Afghanistan some time back.
That'd be ISI, of course. The list would be a watch list, that apparently isn't very closely watched...
Ali Sher, according to information which some of the police officers had given to the media last month before formally announcing his arrest, had received militant training in Kashmir and Afghanistan and later he joined hands with the elements fighting against the armed forces in Waziristan agency.
That'd imply he's probably not an SSP or Lashkar-e-Jhangvi thug. Though LJ was tied to Afghanistan — Riaz Basra lived there until the Talibs were chased out — it's not a Kashmir-style jihadi organization. That's why I'm guessing he's a Harkat guy, or maybe a Jaish gunny...
He was also linked to a tribal facilitator, Abdul Rehman Wazir, of the alleged Al-Qaeda elements in the Waziristan agency. Madni’s name came before Ali Sher’s on the secret list of militants belonging to Multan, the source added.
I have no idea what Urdu or Pashto alphabetical order would be, so we'll have to take their word for that. I doubt if it reflects precedence...
It is pertinent to mention here that Madni is also a nominated accused in the murder of Dera Muhammadi Union Council Nazim Rana Shamshad. The nazim was gunned down in his office on June 23, 2004, allegedly by Madni and his brother Ali Shan. The latter was sent behind bars while the former has been declared proclaimed offender in the case. The accused had reportedly suspected that Rana Shamshad was instrumental in a police raid conducted in 2001 by the CIA police at a hotel of Dera Muhammadi. Madni and his companions — Aslam Thakkar and Rao Farman — were arrested in the raid in connection with the rising incidents of motorcycle snatching in the area.
These guys sound a lot more like cheap local crooks than even low-level krazed jihadis. I'd guess their involvement was at the cannon fodder level...
Rao and Thakkar were, later, killed in an encounter while Madni was challaned in a motorcycle theft case. Besides, Madni’s father Ali Sher was murdered in an election-related clash on Oct 10, 2002. His heirs had also suspected that Shamshad might have abetted the murder. The police source said in February Madni was arrested by the Rahim Yar Khan Saddar police during a foiled dacoity bid. A team of Multan’s Mumtazabad police station stayed for three days in Rahim Yar Khan to arrest him in connection with Rana Shamshad’s murder case, but the police there later denied that he was in their custody. Deceased Shamshad’s son Rana Imran claimed that he had twice seen Madni in the Chehliak police station, but he was at a loss to understand why the police were not bringing his arrest on record. He feared that the main accused in his father’s murder case would be once again set free by his ‘benefactors’ in the police department.
Posted by: Fred || 06/30/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Fred, I think it's that internet connection thingy. The packets leave Pakistan fine but are getting jumbled on their way back into the story at your end.
Posted by: Seafarious || 06/30/2005 0:19 Comments || Top||

#2  Sounds like Ibraheem Madni has powerful friends, but the protection doesn't extend to his work colleagues.
Posted by: Paul Moloney || 06/30/2005 0:32 Comments || Top||

#3  Does this make sense in, like, Pakistani?
Posted by: tu3031 || 06/30/2005 12:25 Comments || Top||



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