Over 220 people, including 92 suspected militants, have been killed in terror attacks in Saudi Arabia over the past two years, the interior minister said yesterday, giving for the first time an overall toll for the wave of attacks in the country.
And scores of others 'surrounded'.
"The kingdom witnessed 22 criminal acts over the past two years, including bombings, attacks and abductions," Prince Nayef bin Abdul Aziz told an international counter-terrorism conference. "This resulted in the killing of 90 (civilian) citizens and (foreign) residents and the wounding of 507. Thirty-nine members of the security forces were martyred and 213 injured, while 92 from the deviant group (the official Saudi term for suspected Al Qaeda militants) were killed and 17 injured." Damage to property and installations from the attacks which began in May 2003 exceeded one billion riyals (BD100.5 million), he added.
The appeals court in Sanaa upheld the death sentence against a Yemeni and sentenced to death another who had been jailed over the 2002 bombing of the French oil tanker Limburg and other attacks. Huzam Saleh Mejalli's death sentence of last August was confirmed, while Fawaz Al Rabei, who had been given a 10-year jail term, was condemned to death. Both were also convicted of killing a policeman.
Call us when you chop a holy man, 'k?
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FAWAZ AL RABEI
al-Qaeda in Yemen
HUZAM SALEH MEJALLI
al-Qaeda in Yemen
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"Over 220 people, including 92 suspected militants, have been killed in terror attacks in Saudi Arabia over the past two years."
DHAKA: Two journalists were injured, one seriously, when a bomb exploded on Saturday in the southern Bangladeshi city of Khulna, police said. The explosion occurred outside the city's press club, said MA Aziz Sarker, the deputy inspector general of police. "Two journalists were injured, one of them seriously," he said. "We believe the explosion was caused by a bomb and we are investigating the matter".
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Crossfire™ soon to follow.
I'll bet they are not Theocrat friendly pressmen at the press club.
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Reminds me of the Baghdad photographers all lined to to take pictures of a staged "car bombing in progress" last week. Also of a joke:
Question: "What do you call 500 lawyers at the bottom of the Atlantic?"
Answer: "A good start."
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31.1.2005 at 1852 UTC in posn: 09:15.2N - 103:10.0E, off west coast of Vietnam, Gulf of Thailand. Three pirates armed with guns and long knives boarded a chemical tanker underway. They raided master's cabin, stole cash from ship's safe and master's personal belongings. They then tried to take the master to their boat but he resisted and received injuries. Pirates escaped in their boat.
29.01.2005 at 0200 LT at Kandla outer anchorage, India. Eight robbers armed with iron bars boarded a general cargo ship at forecastle from a fishing boat. Alert duty a/b raised alarm and robbers escaped empty handed by climbing down a rope.
24.01.2005 at 2310 LT at Callao anchorage, Peru.Two robbers armed with knives boarded a tanker and tried to steal ship's stores. Alert crew mustered and robbers jumped overboard and escaped in a boat waiting with other accomplices. Incident was reported to authorities and they boarded for investigation. Coast guard sent a boat to patrol area.
20.01.2005 at 0235 LT in posn: 05:49.63N - 118:07.26E, Sandakan anchorage, Malaysia. Two robbers boarded a container ship. They broke in to a container on deck and stole cargo. Crew raised alarm and robbers jumped overboard and escaped in a boat waiting with two accomplices. Master lodged a report and police boarded for investigation.
There are also off-source reports of fishing trawlers off Bangladesh being robbed and some of their crew kidnapped for ransom.
An alleged Islamic extremist wanted for the 2002 Bali bombings was not killed in a military air strike on rebel groups in the southern Philippines last week, Indonesian police said Thursday. A Philippine military official claimed over the weekend that Dulmatin and a fellow Indonesian militant were among those believed killed when aircraft targeted a rebel meeting in MinÂÂdanao last week. "We have been notified by Interpol that the report is not true," Dadang Garnida, national police deputy detective chief, told AFP. Indonesian police said DulÂmatin, whose real name is Joko Pitono, helped assemble the bombs that killed 202 people, mostly foreign tourists, on the resort island of Bali in October 2002. The secretary of Interpol's National Central Bureau in Jakarta, Brig. Gen. Sisno AdiÂwinoto, was quoted by the Kompas newspaper as saying that nobody was killed in the Mindanao air strike. He said one person was injured in the attack and about 300 residents had later sought refuge. "So, there's no physical evidence that DulÂÂmatin died," he was quoted as saying.
If nobody died, it's probably safe to assume he didn't.
The Philippine local military commander, Col. Gerry JalanÂÂdoni, said Saturday that intelligence reports indicated the air strike had killed two of three Indonesian members of the Jemaah Islamiya extremist group. He said seven bodies had been found after the air strike.
Then he's going to have to produce them, and get confirmation from dental records or DNA. Sorry. The Fat Lady doesn't sing cheap.
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DULÂMATIN
Jemaah Islamiyah
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Two suspected Abu Sayyaf members were arrested after a brief fire fight with soldiers in Sacol Island here early Saturday morning. Southern Command chief Lt. General Alberto Braganza said Abu Sayyaf members Abdulla Uttoh and Bibi Uttoh were left behind and were captured by the soldiers. He said the arrested bandits were still being interrogated. Braganza said operations against the fleeing bandits were being intensified.
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THE MILITARY yesterday insisted that two operatives of the Jemaah Islamiyah, an Indonesia-based regional terror network believed linked to Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda, were killed in a military attack in Maguindanao last month. Military spokesperson Lt. Col. Buenaventura Pascual said Army 604th Brigade commander Col. Gerry Jalandoni maintained that Indonesians Mohamad Ali Abdul Rahiman and Joko Pitono were among the 12 killed during the airstrike at the Butilan Marsh in Datu Piang town last Jan. 27.
It's seven in the other article. When the numbers bounce like that, somebody's making them up...
The military launched the attack after receiving reports that a meeting was taking place between members of the Abu Sayyaf Group, a renegade group of Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) rebels and JI members. Rahiman, alias Muaya, is said to be a JI intelligence officer while Pitono, alias Dulmatin, was allegedly involved in the 2002 Bali bombings that killed over 200 people in the posh Indonesian island-resort. A third Indonesian, identified only as Usman, managed to escape, Pascual revealed. "It has been a public knowledge in Datu Piang that the two Indonesians were killed," said Pascual, quoting Jalandoni.
"Everybody knows it" isn't confirmation.
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Jemaah Islamiyah
JOKO PITONO
Jemaah Islamiyah
MOHAMAD ALI ABDUL RAHIMAN
Jemaah Islamiyah
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Jemaah Islamiyah
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Algerian security forces have dismantled a bomb-making unit of the al Qaeda-aligned Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat (GSPC) and killed four of its members, newspapers said on Sunday. Security forces attacked late on Friday the GSPC's Al Tafjeer brigade, known for its bomb-making expertise and suspected of being behind numerous deadly attacks against authorities in northern Algeria. Four rebels were killed, including two brothers, in the attack in Sidi Daoud in the Boumerdes region, some 50 km (30 miles) east of the capital Algiers. Authorities confiscated four combat arms, including two Kalashnikov AK-47 rifles. Authorities were not immediately available for comment.The attack came a day after anti-terrorist units killed a regional GSPC leader in Cap Djinet, also in Boumerdes province. A soldier was also killed in the hour-long gunfire exchange, newspapers said.
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The Iraqi authorities show they can turn the terrorist scum's own methods against them. Good screenshot of squirming scum at the link. EFNYTBS.
In one scene, the videotape shows three kidnappers with guns and a knife, preparing to behead a helpless man who is gagged and kneeling at their feet. In the next, it is one of the kidnappers who is in detention, his eyes wide with fear, his lips trembling, as he speaks to his interrogators. "How do I say this?" says the kidnapper, identified as an Egyptian named Abdel-Qadir Mahmoud, holding back tears. "I am sorry for everything I have done."
In the first week after the elections, the Iraqi Interior Ministry and the Mosul police chief are turning the tables on the insurgency here in the north by using a tactic - videotaped messages - that the insurgents have used time and again as they have terrorized the region with kidnappings and executions. But this time the videos, which are being broadcast on a local station, carry an altogether different message, juxtaposing images of the masked killers with the cowed men they become once captured.
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...raises questions about whether they violate legal or treaty obligations about the way opposing fighters are interrogated and how their confessions are made public...
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[O]fficials in Mosul, short on manpower, apparently hope the psychological force of the broadcasts will help undermine the insurgency, making its fighters appear weak and encouraging citizens to call up with their reactions or information about those still at large. A program loosely based on "most wanted" crime shows in the United States is also being developed, a Mosul television official said. "Because of their confessions and the disgusting things they did, we have reached our limit," said the Mosul police chief, Ahmed al-Jaburi. "There is no more patience."
If nothing more, the confessions, as they are called in the videos, offer a rare glimpse into how the gangs operate and plot their killings. The videos also try to divest the terrorists and criminals of their religious platform by challenging them with questions about Islam. "These are men who do not fear God," an Interior Ministry official said at the beginning of one of the segments this week. He described the men as Iraqi and other Arab terrorists. "Our special forces will crush their filthy heads!" "We are going to show you some men who have the blood of innocent people on their hands," the official said. "We are going to show you their confessions, say their names and those of their leaders, and we expect you to help us find them."
Some people said they found the practice of showing the insurgents on television troubling...
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It is not immediately clear what the officials intend to do with the detainees. Security officials said the men had been detained around Mosul during patrols based on leads.
Mr. Mahmoud's segment is especially dramatic. At one point it shows three masked kidnappers dressed in black, standing over their victim. The two on the sides point weapons at the victim's head as the man in the middle reads a statement. When he is finished, he hands the paper to someone off camera and, without hesitation, draws a knife and grasps the victim's chin, pulling it to the side to expose his neck. The other two lean forward to help. Then the video pauses. The voice of an Iraqi security official comes on. "That is Abdel-Qadir Mahmoud on the left," said the official, referring to one of the masked men. "And that is Mohammad Hikmat on the right." The man identified as Mr. Mahmoud had been shown earlier in the video in a very different way than when he was displayed masked, armed and acting with bravado as he helped to kill a man on his knees. "The coalition forces arrested me last April as one of Saddam's special forces," he said, sporting a scraggly beard, his eyes wide and a crease furrowing his brow. He was shown from the neck up, a plastic sheet forming a backdrop behind him. "I met a man named Sheik Mahdi in jail," Mr. Mahmoud said. "When I was released, we met again. He was organizing four groups. They hung out at a pool hall." He coughed a few times, then leaned his head on his right hand and put a finger to his temple as if trying to appear sincere or thoughtful. "The operations were in the Mahmudiya area," he said, referring to a town south of Baghdad where guerrilla attacks are frequent. "They killed someone named Metwalli al-Masri, along with four engineers."
In another scene, a man who gave his name as Muataz Jawba sat in front of a tiled wall. The camera was fixed on him from the shoulders up. He was heavyset and had a thick moustache. The commentator said he was part of a gang led by the "prince" of terrorists, Khaled Zakia, who was a colleague of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, an associate of Al Qaeda. Mr. Jawba's heavy-lidded eyes darted nervously from side to side. Whispering into a little microphone held to his lips, he said he had pointed out to the gang a Christian man who worked for the Americans. "They chose a day to kill him," Mr. Jawba said. The gang went to the man's restaurant and shot him. But they found out he survived after they sent a scout to the hospital pretending he wanted to donate blood. They then demanded a $10,000 ransom from the family, which the family paid, Mr. Jawba said. "As a group, did you fast and pray?" the questioner said, referring to two requirements of practicing Muslims. "Khaled came and fooled us," said Mr. Jawba. "He said it's jihad, it's occupation, come help us." "Do you call this jihad?" the interrogator said. "No," Mr. Jawba replied meekly. "Is Khaled Zakia a religious man?" the questioner asked. "He brainwashed us," Mr. Jawba said.
Another man was identified as one who pumped bullets into the head of a prone man with his hands bound behind his back. The commentator said insurgents thought the victim worked for Americans because a mineral-water bottle was found in his car.
In another segment, after mentioning that Iraqi security forces had engaged in a gun battle, an Iraqi official says, as if making a grim public service announcement: "This is how we will treat the people beheading you." The video then showed what appeared to be a body covered by a sheet. Iraqis are invited to call with their reactions and information during the programs, of which there have been at least three this week. On one broadcast, emotional citizens called the number imposed over the image of Mr. Jawba on the screen. "My nephew was killed a while back," said a caller from Dohuk, a Kurdish city north of Mosul. "His name was Hassan Ibrahim. Are they the guys who did it? Please ask them if they killed someone in Sanaa Street in Mosul." A woman called up, sobbing. "Someone murdered my son, Abdel-Salam Hamoodi," she said. "He was murdered near our house. Just ask them if they killed him. I want you to give me the answer, to ease my heart." An Hour With Michael Moore's Minutemen. Let's hope it's a short series.
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I'm impressed! This is very smart thinking and doubtless compelling TV. Mosul police chief, Ahmed al-Jaburi is clearly a man to watch in the new Iraq.
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Small numbers of violent persons can coerce behavior in disunited third parties: the fear is widely distributed, more widely than the actual violence. Most people are never directly injured by terrorism, even in a place like Israel. However, most everyone may become afraid.
If the public distribution of fear is lessened, the effect of the fear also shrinks.
Exposing the terrorists to ridicule will reduce their ability to cause fear (imperfect solution, but useful; similar to the captured toy commando last week).
An Islamist militant group in Iraq claimed responsibility for kidnapping an Italian journalist and threatened to kill her by Monday, following an earlier kidnap claim, according to an Internet statement. The statement, which could not be verified, was signed by the Jihad Organization and threatened to kill Giuliana Sgrena by Monday if Italy did not withdraw its troops from Iraq. A group with a similar name, the Islamic Jihad Organization, claimed on Friday to have taken Sgrena and set a 72-hour deadline for Italy to remove its troops, but did not specifically threaten to kill her. It was not clear if the latest posting was by a separate group. Both statements were posted on the Web site by the same user and had the same format, although the sign-off differed.
"We in the Jihad Organization ... announce that we will implement God's law (kill) on the Italian prisoner Giuliana Sgrena after 48 hours if the Italian government, headed by the criminal Berlusconi, does not announce it will withdraw (troops) from Iraq," said the statement dated on Saturday. "To the Italian people, it is time for you to know the truth about your criminal government that is still in Iraq," it said. "Your sons' blood is the responsibility of Berlusconi and his gang of Islam's enemies. Your army's continued presence in Iraq will bring about grave consequences and you will not be blessed with security as long as Muslims in Iraq are not living securely," it added.
Like Friday's statement from the Islamic Jihad Organization, the threat was posted on a site not used by the main Iraqi insurgent groups. In September, the Jihad Organization, claimed in a Web statement to have killed two Italian aid workers, Simona Torretta and Simona Pari. The claim also followed a statement from the Islamic Jihad Organization saying it abducted the same women and would kill them if Italian troops did not leave Iraq. Both women were subsequently released.
Sgrena's kidnapping is the first of a foreigner since the Iraqi elections last Sunday. Sgrena, a correspondent for Rome-based Communist newspaper Il Manifesto, was snatched from the street while she was interviewing people near Baghdad university. Il Manifesto was virulently opposed to the 2003 Iraq war and an opponent of Berlusconi and President Bush. Hmm. If ever there was a suspicious kidnap, this is it. At the least, there's a guaranteed case of Stockholm syndrome coming up...
Italian journalist Enzo Baldoni was abducted in August by an organization calling itself the Islamic Army in Iraq. He was killed after Rome refused its demand to pull troops from Iraq.
LAHORE: Habiba Rafia, an Al Qaeda activist detained in Kotlakhpat jail, gave birth to a girl at services Hospital on Saturday. Rafia is said to be the wife of an Al Qaeda activist who was close to Ahmad Khilfan Ghailani. She was among 13 people who were arrested with Ghailani from Gujrat and was pregnant at the time of the arrest. She bore a baby girl at Services Hospital and was sent back to the jail along with the newborn after two hours of the delivery. Ghailani was one of the most wanted Al Qaeda activists with head money of around $10 million. He was handed over to US.
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AHMED KHILFAN GHAILANI
al-Qaeda
HABIBA RAFIA
al-Qaeda
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Today's Rantburg Challenge -- Predict the child's name using the father's aliases list:
http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/terrorists/terghailani.htm
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After reviewing the comments yesterday, it seems we have a problem. Some of our regular commenters don't like some of our other regular commenters. All well and good, there's no rule saying that you have to like everyone you encounter.
Except we're burning bandwidth on stupid comments and trolling. Bandwidth that belongs to someone else.
If you disagree with a comment, fine, say so. But repeated attacks, spoofing signatures, trolls, etc., shouldn't be done here. Take it to a good leftie board and burn their bandwidth instead.
As part of the VRWC, we're supposed to be the adults. We keep this up and people will think they hit the URL for DailyKos by mistake.
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This post will get lost. I suggest it be the "headline" post for the day.
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Frank G has been posting the "It's all about meeeeeeee" comments in response to Aris for a long time. Why haven't you said anything about that specifically? I suggest you address your comments to Frank directly to him, by name.
Also, what's your opinion of the expression "attention whore" being used repeatedly by .com, Tom, and Frank G?
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After Frank G posted his "It's all about meeeeeee" comment for about the 100th time, why didn't you start sending them to the sink trap? Why don't you send them to the sink trap now?
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But repeated attacks, spoofing signatures, trolls, etc., shouldn't be done here.
That seems to be a reversal of a previous decision of yours that such things were allowed in Rantburg, same as stalking. Still: a reversal I applaud. Glad you *finally* saw reason, and what Rantburg had become.
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hahaha.... the previous two posts sure are relevant. Too hot for you guys?
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Ummm ... Aris and Mike S., from my perspective your own behavior is a good part of the problem.
It takes two (or more) to kindle a flamewar. There's a fine line between advancing the conversation by taking a minority view and regularly insisting on the last word.
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Ah quit your bellyaching Mike and Aris (and others...). Fred and Steve and the other moderaters spend a lot of time and money to provide this forum for us. This isn't 'usenet' and isn't free so take your flamewars somewhere else (I hear DU likes them).
If you dont like something then say so - once. By beating an argument into the ground (and then digging) and whining 'well HE siad this and you siad that and now my whittle feelings are hurt! Mommy!' you are acting like children. Having threads go into the 80's while a couple of people have a personal arguments doesn't do anyone any good. Take it to email or have a knifefight in the lobby at high noon or something.
Steve, (and Fred and all), How about the moderators having the ability to diable posting on individual articles for a certain period of time (an hour or three) so people can 'cool down'.
BTW Thanks Frank (and Steve and the other moderators) for providing (and working on moderating) this forum.
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Funny that Mike's and Aris' responses have been to basically imply that everyone else trolls, but they don't.
Mike, if I were running this site, your comments yesterday on the Diplomad blog retirement post would have resulted in your suspension from here. And no, I don't think anything Frank G, or .com, or Tom said excuses what you wrote there. It was the first message of the thread, and I do not think Diplomad had any responsibility for Frank, .com, or Tom, or anything they have written that might have offended you.
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I find it interesting that Mikey is certain that Frank G has been posting the "It's all about meeeeeeee" comments. I know that Fred can check IP addresses, but I didn't know that Mikey can.
And what is with Aris and his "stalking" obsession: am I stalking him now because I am posting on the same thread, less than an hour after he does?
And Aris, you are so arrogant, even right here in saying to Steve White "Glad you *finally* saw reason". Amazing.
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According to Mike and Aris, the answer is to force everyone else in Rantburg to change so as not to rile up or cause distress to the town fool or the town crank. They're sensitive when it suits them, and nasty when that suits them, but always so innocent - and damned quick to whine and kow-tow to perceived authority. Ultimately, they are prime examples of the New Man of the pussified Western Society. Introducing low-grade strife without end because an end would require decisive action which might be construed as violence, which is never ever allowed anymore. Violence Bad. Resolution. Bad. Clarity. Bad. Gray pointless posturing and preaching. Good. Arrogance without come-uppance. Good. Absurdity. Good.
I was taught that when wrong, one should fess-up to it. I do that. I've never seen it from either of these two. Never. No matter how absurd it gets, such as a Greek child lecturing Americans on Americanisms, never is any class or honor shown. Face to face, I'd fuck him up. Really fuck him up. That is my way: if wrong - fess-up, if not, press the point until I get an "uncle" - but always resolve the damned problem, now. I'm definitely not happy with this endless shit.
I do believe it is time for a decision - the hard one - where someone leaves town. On a rail, with or without tar and feathers, whatever floats the Sheriff's boat. But we do have two particular individuals who've decided they will remake RB in their image and demand pussification, er, justice.
I'm inclined to agree, for a change. Being an American who luckily missed out on the New Man Pussification Revolution, I'm not very good with the kow-tow shit. So if it's me, the door will not hit me in the ass, because RB has become WankTown.
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the Diplomad blog retirement post would have resulted in your suspension from here
What would .com, Tom or Frank G have to write for you to recommend a suspension for them? What would they have to write for you to recommend even that their nasty, vulgar, abusive comments even been ejected to the sink trap?
I'm not going to praise the moderators. They have the sink trap, and they don't use it. They allow three or four people to personally abuse others day after day after day, and then the moderators ask all the children to behave.
I do apologize for the Diplomad remark. Sorry, Diplomad, whereever you are! If you ever drop by South Hackensack, call me up, and I'll buy you a drink. Friends?
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Wow, Mikey, I'm shocked that you've posted 3 out of 13 times here and not mentioned "#79" like you did about a dozen times yesterday. You also haven't reprinted any of it today. Think that was enough repetition and bandwidth hogging and ready to move on?
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I find it interesting that Mikey is certain that Frank G has been posting the "It's all about meeeeeeee" comments. I know that Fred can check IP addresses, but I didn't know that Mikey can.
No matter who was posting these comments, the moderators should have started sending them to the sink trap long, long ago.
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02/06/2005 10:42 Comments ||
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I'm not going to praise the moderators. They have the sink trap, and they don't use it. They allow three or four people to personally abuse others day after day after day, and then the moderators ask all the children to behave.
I agree! They're too many meanies on this blog. You know who you are. Pulling wings off litter flies won't get you into me version of heaven. But meby it's all for the best. If it were me I'd me rely let 'em troll in peace. Perhaps Mucki will strike up the RantBurg Choir for a Chorus of Jebus Ima Love them litter Chilrun.
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Re #12 (.com) I was taught that when wrong, one should fess-up to it. I do that.
Do you have any sense of irony at all that might enable you to recognize how ludicrous you are to call other people "attention whores" for posting a lot of comments?
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02/06/2005 10:44 Comments ||
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What would .com, Tom or Frank G have to write for you to recommend a suspension for them?
Something like:
Does he plan to take this opportunity to go into rehab?
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester 2005-02-05 8:23:32 AM Top Rantburg
I don't know if I would have banned .com, Tom, or Frank G for some of the things they've said about Aris, or if I would have banned Aris for some of the things he's said about them (or about Americans, conservatives, or southerners in general).
I know that sometimes I have actually defended Aris' presence here in spite of the fact that he has been a difficult person. (And occasionally regretted this the next day when he launches into another insultfest, but I digress).
The point isn't whether you think .com, Frank, or Tom have been pissing in the well. The point is that you have pissed in the well yourself, in a post that NOONE else (whether .com, Frank, or Tom) had commented on, bright and early at 8:23 Eastern Standard Time.
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02/06/2005 10:51 Comments ||
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It's not the quantity of comments that is at issue, it's the mindless repetition. Mike can tell us daily for weeks that Kofi and Kojo are innocent altar boys, and Aris can fester on one word or question forever, not comprehending that he's not getting an answer because he has a combination arrogance/American comprehension problem. Day in, day out, over and over.
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RB exists to elicit comments. The key is the commentary, itself, the content or lack, the humor or lack, the point or lack.
Your stunt yesterday was supposed to prove something, I presume. It did. How pointless you can be when your little shorts get in a bunch. That, was ludicrous.
And for you and Aris to whine here today, allies in your asinine pot => kettle game? That's irony.
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too true> There's a fine line between advancing the conversation by taking a minority view and regularly insisting on the last word.
And how have I been "insisting" on said last word, other than by the fact I refuse to be bullied into silence by retarded insults on my person, nation or continent by wimps who wouldn't know logical argumentation if it bit them on the "ars"?
I don't show my belly in submission. You know why? Because I'm not a dog, I'm a person. If you want to convince someone, try to convince him, don't droolishly growl at him.
Funny that Mike's and Aris' responses have been to basically imply that everyone else trolls, but they don't.
Have I ever "spoofed signatures"? Mmm, no I haven't. Have I ever stalked anyone? Mmm, no I haven't. Have I ever made mocking "It's all about me" posts? Mmm, no I haven't. Have I ever made "ignore" posts? Mmm, no I haven't. Have I ever just posted only to make fun of a person's choice of words or expressions? Mmm, no I haven't. Have I ever admitted to trolling or playing games with other posters and having them for my toys? Mmm, no I haven't.
Cheers.
If you dont like something then say so - once.
Keep that advice for the people who've been adding ten content-less troll-posts after any single contribution I make to any thread.
And Aris, you are so arrogant, even right here in saying to Steve White "Glad you *finally* saw reason". Amazing.
Yes, I am so arrogant. I tried to convince the moderators here a while ago that such attitude should not be acceptable. A while ago Steve essentially responded "we may ban Neonazis, but people being followed by other people don't concern us". This here is a much better reaction, atleast finding something wrong with things like spoofed signatured and trolling attacks.
I was taught that when wrong, one should fess-up to it. I do that.
No, you don't. You've insulted me ludicrously even in times when I've been politely and patiently tried to correct you on factual mistakes that you would have discovered if you'd cared to follow a single link, and your only 'fessing up to error was to again ludicrously (and lyingly) accuse me of pretending to be perfect.
You replace your errors with your lies -- *that's* your attitude.
not, press the point until I get an "uncle"
Yeah. You are a dog wanting other dogs to show their bellies. I'm a person.
I do believe it is time for a decision - the hard one - where someone leaves town.
That had been my argument also. Glad you are *also* finally seeing sense.
No matter how absurd it gets, such as a Greek child lecturing Americans on Americanisms, never is any class or honor shown.
Yeah, that's almost as stupid as Americans constantly lecturing Europeans on the EU. Except that mmm, I've never initiated a discussion on Americanism, while you people *constantly* initiate discussions on the EU.
#25
Obviously, .com does not have any sense of irony at all that might enable him to recognize that he is ludicrous for calling other people "attention whores" for posting a lot of comments.
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester ||
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#26
A while ago Steve essentially responded "we may ban Neonazis, but people being followed by other people don't concern us". This here is a much better reaction, atleast finding something wrong with things like spoofed signatured and trolling attacks.
How awful. Are you okay?
A bit of advice. Next 'trolling attack' or 'spoofed signature' send Fred a bill for damages done to you.
#28
How awful. Are you okay? A bit of advice. Next 'trolling attack' or 'spoofed signature' send Fred a bill for damages done to you.
badanov, check out the post originating the thread. It seems to be the moderators also that find fault with such actions, even though you clearly don't.
#29
I may be wrong, but I believe that it was Doc White's intent to stiffle the sort of exchanges exhibited in the most of past 28 posts. It has become quite obvious that some RBers REALLY need to get a life. If the boot fits, go skiing. G'dday.
By posting my views? Oh wait. That's right: They are so because you disagree with them not because they are particularly out of line, right Aris?
You know, I post here and read posts here because of the senses of humor many of your sworn enemies have. Aris, you are an arrogant boy with zero sense of humor and no feel for the kind of discourse I enjoy here.
So be it.
If you continue and if the moderators allow you to continue the way you have eventually, you will win, but I will fade away quietly to a friendlier blog whose owners can keep a lid on the kind of crap you post.
#32
Well, a lot of help you are in this discussion. We know that you would suspend one person for one posting. Thanks for your input.
That particular post did not stand alone. It was more like the straw that broke the camel's back in relation to you.
Although maybe you're wrong that I shouldn't suggest that one person should be banned. Perhaps Aris should be too.
Heck, I'd ban you, Aris, .com, Tom, Frank G., and myself if I could be guaranteed more postings from the likes of Old Spook and Old Patriot.
(On second thought, not .com. He does post extremely informative comments about life in the Magic Kingdom as an expatriate engineer. All I've seen from you in the past year is desperate spinning to keep from dealing with the fact that the UN is broken, which if successful will merely result in the UN staying broken instead of being fixed. You must hate the UN a great deal.)
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02/06/2005 11:29 Comments ||
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#33
badanov, I'm not interested in your accidental-intentional "misunderstandings" of my posts.
With .com, Tom, and now you seemingly agreeing, I'm all in favour of drawing the line in the sand. Despite's .com's contempt for my respect to "perceived authority" ("pussification" he calls it), I do have respect to *actual* earned authority of human beings (aka the kind of authority that's NOT earned by mockery, bullying and growing -- behaving like dogs in a packs).
So, once again, let Fred decide what kind of behaviour he considers acceptable in his forum.
#35
Blocking "I'm not interested in your" would help too.
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02/06/2005 11:37 Comments ||
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#36
I see my fear that this post might be lost in the shuffle was premature.
And to those concerned about bandwidth, as of comment 32, 10 comments at 638 letters per comment for M&A, 22 comments at 475 letters per comment for all others.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis ||
02/06/2005 11:42 Comments ||
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#37
So, once again, let Fred decide what kind of behaviour he considers acceptable in his forum.
I am sure Fred will be very happy to hear that. ;o)
#38
Who wants to bet this thread is going to go over 75 postings, most with the "he started it!" kind of entries?
Thanks for trying, Steve, to get this back on some adult level, although it doesn't look like it is working.
I miss Old Spook, Old Patriot, and TGA. I learned so much from them when they posted, and I don't think they realized how much the rest of us looked forward to their commentaries.
And yeah, I'd miss .com's stories from his travels if he was gone. There's other people who I have noticed have cut way back on their postings ever since this stopped being a place for intelligent discussion and started being some kind of childish "playground at recess" insultfest.
#42
nice - ya broke the page width...and no, Mikey, it's not me posting that. Assumptions are like, well, you know. So your nice little rant is wrong on the first assumption, making the rest gibberish. I'll call you out on your Kofi-protection racket any time you pull that crap. If that's trolling, TFB. Aris OTOH has been out of my interest range lately, and I'm not the ones he's been back-and-forthing with lately. We do have a history, of course, and I've been attemting to ignore the pugnacious infant. Will try to do even better in the future :-)
Posted by: Frank G ||
02/06/2005 12:26 Comments ||
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#43
Aris and Mike, I think you missed the point of the original post, so let me make it more clear to you. If you don't like the way others treat you, then go play somewhere else. Stop writing posts about how Fred and the other moderators are doing or not doing their job. They are doing their job fine. It's not their job to make sure your feelings aren't hurt or to assure that others are not mean to you or that they catch all posts you don't think are fair and put them in the sink trap.
It's not your board. If you don't like the way they run it go elsewhere where or STHU.
#44
Hmmm, I think I wasn't blunt enough. Let me try again.
Mike Sylvester: knock it off. I appreciate that you have a different opinion than many here, and you're welcome to post those opinions. You were out of line with your comment about the Diplomad yesterday, and in retrospect I should have said so. You've been getting more out of line with the flame wars. It's getting to the point that I just pass over any comment thread in which I see your name, because I know that the balance of the thread is going to be pointless. So knock it off.
Aris: knock it off. You're welcome to post your opinions. But you've come under the impression that a discussion is something you "win", not something you have. You're not here to win, and the moderators are not going to force everyone else to conform to your standards of behavior. So knock it off.
Everyone else: it takes two to make a flame war. Frank G has the right idea in #42.
The moderators generally will not police comments. We'll deal with the trolls like Boris, etc., but we've generally left things alone otherwise. But when the discussion turns nasty to the point that we start getting e-mail from long-time regulars saying that they've decided to go elsewhere, that's when we'll say something.
And we're saying it now.
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02/06/2005 13:19 Comments ||
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#45
It's getting to the point that I just pass over any comment thread in which I see your name
There are a couple of names I pass over because of the non-sensical blather.
They don't discuss, they lecture. Its tiresome.
To all: none of us is innocent, I've done my share of immature shit to others (namely anti-war). I've no excuse, should've just ignored her.
Some of you are trying to use the third grader argument of "trying to justify bad behavior by pointing out other bad behavior." That's childish. Steve's quite right, we're basically all on the same team - let's do the right thing.
#49
I know for a fact that there are several regular posters here who bite like lunkers at trolls. It's a pity, as usually they contribute valuable insight.
There's nothing more beautiful than reading an article with an obvious troll comment and no replies.
#50
I'd also like to say that I'd like nothing more to see some real leftist posters here, people of principle who will argue their points without flaming, even when severely provoked.
Unfortunately, they are few and far between, and most of the people articulate enough to do this would consider the Rantburg audience to be no less than untermenschen.
#51
Well, if the moderaters here won't send Frank G's repetitive it's all about me comments, and his repetitve buttboy comments, and his repetitive whore comments to the sink trap, then I'm gone.
I'm willing to defend my opinions to anyone. If you all would rather read Frank G's vulgar, nasty, abusive personal comments, then so be it.
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester ||
02/06/2005 14:35 Comments ||
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#50 "...real leftist posters here, people of principle..." Oxymoron?
#51 Bye.
Posted by: Tom ||
02/06/2005 14:37 Comments ||
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#57
You, Poison Reverse, are one of the very few people the moderators have ever warned for being so uncivil. What was that you wrote? Something about cock sucking?
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester ||
02/06/2005 15:43 Comments ||
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#58
Mike/Kofi,
Wait just one damn minute. I have never never never used that term in RB. Before you start flinging false accusations, show me some proof.
I know, I know, anti-Americans at the U.N./Foggy Bottom, like yourself, are not used to providing any proof before accusing people. But here at RB, you are not going to get away with it. BTW, I thought you were leaving. Buh Bye!!
#59
I haven't been commenting as much lately, and I haven't been involved in any of these controversial threads, but it seems to me that if the moderators are asking for more civility, posters urging people to leave in the very same thread kind of shows a missing of the point . . .
Posted by: The Doctor ||
02/06/2005 17:55 Comments ||
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#60
Poison Reverse, the statement you were reprimanded for was in this thread, #10:
Aris, The last thing I need is some eeeeeeEUCrat, anti-American, sissy boy telling people how to run their web servers. Why don't you go and do what you Eurosissies do best, hand out free needles in Amsterdam, become anti-Christian, and make friends with jihadi's? I thought Frank, .com, Old Spook, lex and I tore you a new one yesterday? Go back to your EUroHole. You are nothing but a liberal PIG.
Excuse me for my faulty memory that you said something explicitly about "cock sucking." The nice Christian expressions you used were "sissyboy," "Eurosissy," "Eurohole" and "tore you a new one".
Later, in #35, you addressed me thus: Just great, another left-winger trolling in the middle of the thread, blathering to oblivion. It's so nice of you to take time away from your super diplodick anti-American role in the U.N./Foggy Bottom, to spew your meaningless chatter.
At the time, Steve White had enough of you and wrote: Okay, PoisonReverse, as a moderator I've been really tolerant. Fair warning: you're getting close to the line. Really close. We at Rantburg are really snarky, but only to those who deserve it. Aris is not the enemy. I have a Zionist death ray, and I'm not afraid to use it.
You indeed are a very civil Christian, a model of civility for all of us. I apologize publicly for misquoting you. How unfair of me!
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02/06/2005 18:04 Comments ||
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#61
The Doctor,
Please read ALL of the threads before commenting. You need to check out thread #51, Mike/Kofi deciding to leave, was reached, on his own accord.
#62
Poison Reverse, please re-phrase #61. I don't understand it at all.
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02/06/2005 18:24 Comments ||
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#63
He said you already decided to leave.
Posted by: Robert Crawford ||
02/06/2005 18:49 Comments ||
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#64
Calling someone a sissyboy or sissy is anti-christian? Mike, you really have thin skin and you are very much a troll, especially from yesterday and the day before when you kept linking to threads where you just repeated everyone elses comments in one huge bandwidth hog, I've gotten to the point where I just ignore any threads that have you or Aris in them. Truth to tell I'm surprised that Fred hasn't banned the both of you yet.
You need to check/read your hyperlink one more time. Your boy Aris started trolling first (#8) and managed to insult Fred's HTML skills and I in the same thread.
BTW, you still haven't proved to me where I called a c**k sucker. I believe you accused me of calling you the specific name and you owe me a real apology.
You need to refresh on your grammar skills. I used the word "diplodick" as an adjective to describe your anti-American behavior. I didn't use the word to describe you personally. However, now that you mentioned it...hmmmmm.
My Christianity is between me and Jesus. Unless your name is Jesus, I don't answer to you. I really don't need anti-American atheists like you and Aris telling how to behave. Christians like me had to walk around rice paper around PC liberal LLL thinking for many many years now. I refuse to let you make me feel guilty to be a Christian. Christians will not take it lying down anymore and as Justice Anthony Scalia recently stated in a speech, " don't be scared to proclaim your Christianity", I will no longer be ashamed.
#66
Had nothing to do with HTML skills, and certainly nothing with lack of skills thereof. ASP skills possibly.
And if you consider that post to have been "trolling" or even remotely "insulting", rather than a mere polite suggestion... then please tell me how I would have to phrase it in order for the suggestion not to be "trolling".
Since we're *clearly* having linguistic differences, here.
I really don't need anti-American atheists like you and Aris telling how to behave.
I'm not anti-American. But I definitely don't need paranoid anti-European so-called Christians telling me how to behave.
I refuse to let you make me feel guilty to be a Christian.
Perhaps you should start feeling guilty that you've redefined the term "Christian" to mean whatever unChristian thing you've wished it to mean, having removed all senses of humility, pacifism and love for your fellow man from that word, trimming the concept away until it could manage to fit into your personal tendencies.
#67
Aris: Fred, to prevent this from happening again, may I suggest automatically breaking up words that contain more than 50 or so characters? It shouldn't be too difficult to code.
Poison Reverse: Aris, The last thing I need is some eeeeeeEUCrat, anti-American, sissy boy telling people how to run their web servers. Why don't you go and do what you Eurosissies do best, hand out free needles in Amsterdam, become anti-Christian, and make friends with jihadi's? I thought Frank, .com, Old Spook, lex and I tore you a new one yesterday? Go back to your EUroHole. You are nothing but a liberal PIG.
I suggest that you not be talking that way when Jesus comes.
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester ||
02/06/2005 20:20 Comments ||
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#68
eeeeeeEUCrat
Hey!! Maybe it's Poison Reverse who keeps writing the obnoxious "It's all about meeeeeeeee!"
Poison Reverse, swear on your Christian soul that it isn't you.
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester ||
02/06/2005 20:24 Comments ||
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#69
Mike, I have six sworn affidavits that say you're the one doing it.
Posted by: Robert Crawford ||
02/06/2005 20:26 Comments ||
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#70
If I were such a good Christian as Poison Reverse is, and I knew that poor Frank G was getting blamed for something I myself had been doing, then I would confess before the entire congregation.
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester ||
02/06/2005 20:28 Comments ||
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#71
Good Lord, it's still on. In a way, it's nice, because we can read the other posts in peace.
I'd like to remind everyone what this blog is about: A common enemy, on which even Aris or Mike will agree. This blog should not be about us and our petty quarrels. Let's concentrate on the subject, on intelligent comments and analysis.
Some rather powerful people might read Rantburg...
#73
Some rather powerful people might read Rantburg...
Well, if they offer their own honest opinion, they might be called buttboys, whores, sissies, diplodicks, pussies by our three mullahs who are above criticism and who decide for everyone what is acceptable here.
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester ||
02/06/2005 20:36 Comments ||
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#77
There's other people who I have noticed have cut way back on their postings ever since this stopped being a place for intelligent discussion and started being some kind of childish "playground at recess" insultfest.
#78
Can anyone imagine ignoring certain posters until they appear at the end of a thread, crying out: "Why isn't anyone responding to my very good ideas? Why isn't anyone paying attention to ME?"
Wouldn't that be fun?
#80
TGA is right on in #72. We have bigger tasks than mudwrestling. We have radical Islam and the LLL to deal with. Listen to TGA's wisdom. He did not get it off a cereal box. He has paid big time for it.
Posted by: Alaska Paul ||
02/06/2005 22:08 Comments ||
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#81
Philadelphia blew it. What wankers.
Posted by: Rafael ||
02/06/2005 22:24 Comments ||
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#82
It's all about Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee .
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Insurgents in Iraq yesterday launched fresh attacks with bombs and bullets, killing 21 Iraqis and two US soldiers. Four Iraqi National Guardsmen died in a roadside bombing in Basra and two Iraqi troops died from a blast that hit a patrol in Samarra. The two US soldiers from Task Force Danger were killed in a roadside bombing on Friday night near Baiji.
A member of the Baghdad city council, Abbas Hasan Waheed, was killed in a drive-by shooting. Assassins also killed a member of Iraq's intelligence service in a dive-by shooting in the capital. The brother of the police chief for Mosul and the surrounding Ninevah province was kidnapped yesterday, three days after the chief, General Mohammed Ahmed Al Jubouri, had threatened to destroy rebel sanctuaries if insurgents did not surrender their weapons within two weeks.
Three Iraqi National Guard soldiers were also killed in clashes west of Mosul, in the city of Tal Afar, on Friday night. West of Baghdad, a US convoy in the insurgent stronghold of Ramadi was rocked by a roadside bomb that killed two Iraqi bystanders. On the capital's western outskirts, several mortar rounds exploded with thunderous booms, sending up a cloud of black smoke.
Early yesterday, a colleague of an Italian journalist abducted in Iraq said she received a call from the woman's mobile phone. Giuliana Sgrena, 56, was seized by gunmen on Friday near Baghdad University. Radio journalist Barbara Schiavulli, who received the call from Sgrena's phone, heard no voices but only Arab music playing in the background, said Cristiana Tomei, a colleague of Schiavulli's speaking in Rome.
Associated Press Television News obtained video footage yesterday from the Islamic Army of Iraq, showing a militant firing a shoulder-fired missile at what appears to be a C-130 transport plane flying at a low altitude. The plane's crew fired flares and the missile veered away from the aircraft's rear without hitting it. It wasn't clear where or when the footage was recorded.
Also yesterday, an Iraqi police commander said 11 of his officers were missing after their convoy was ambushed in a western Baghdad suburb. Militant group Army of Ansar Al Sunna said yesterday it shot dead seven abducted Iraqi National Guards and posted an Internet video of the killings. The group said on its website that the seven had been captured in an attack on an Iraqi police convoy in the Abu Ghraib area near Baghdad this week. The video showed the seven hostages being shot outdoors. In Mosul, the bodies of three unidentified Iraqis who had been shot in the head were found on the streets of the city's eastern sector, police said.
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Indian police found weapons-grade uranium on two men who were arrested in the country's north on suspicion of being drug peddlers, a report said yesterday. The discovery of 253.6 grams of "99 per cent uranium" was made when police pounced on Khurshid and Aslam last December in Uttar Pradesh state's Bareilly district, the Times of India said, giving only the first names of the two men. The uranium plates were found in a lead-lined sophisticated box, police said.
How is a lead-lined box 'sophisticated'?
It's all in the hinges...
The substance was sent for analysis to the Bhabha Atomic Research Centre in Bombay which sent back a report stating the rods were "99pc uranium by weight". "I will not hazard a guess about where the uranium was headed," said director general of police R P Singh. "A number of top investigating agencies are currently looking into that," he added.
48 hour rule on this one. Bet a geiger counter doesn't even blip when passed over the rods.
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"The uranium plates were found in a lead-lined sophisticated box, police said."
How is a lead-lined box 'sophisticated'?
I think you missed the crucial word sequence as it is in the article, Steve. They had taken a regular sophisticated box, no doubt purchased from a common-or-garden sophisticated box retailer (e.g.SophisticatedBoxesCulturedCrates.com), and modified the sophisticated box by giving it a lead lining.
#2
Hmmm. I wonder if the point of this is to associate Islamacist terror with criminal (ie. drug dealing) gangs. In other words, to reduce the glorious Islamacist terrorist to a common crimnal who hangs out in shoddy places.
Whether or not the story is true, its promulgation leads in that direction. Has much been going on in Uttar Pradesh in general of late? I confess I haven't been following the Kashmir and Bangladesh situtions in any detail ....
Posted by: too true ||
02/06/2005 6:26 Comments ||
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#3
Being "99 per cent uranium" is not the same as "weapons-grade uranium." For example, depleted uranium can be 99%(or 100%)pure uranium.
Weapons-grade uranium is not just elementally pure uranium, it is also isotopically enriched to a high percentage of U-235. The article fails to make this distinction.
I recommend taking this article with a grain of salt.
#4
Other articles recently have pointed out that, as traditional sources of funds are being choked off, the terrorists are turning increasingly to criminal enterprises for money. As I recall, identity theft, street-sale knockoffs, drugs and gun running have all been mentioned. This article might be a confirmation that Indian criminals are now joining in fun that has already extended tentacles to the Americas and Europe.
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Over 220 people, including 92 suspected militants, have been killed in terror attacks in Saudi Arabia over the past two years, the interior minister said yesterday, giving for the first time an overall toll for the wave of attacks in the country.
DHAKA: Two journalists were injured, one seriously, when a bomb exploded on Saturday in the southern Bangladeshi city of Khulna, police said. The explosion occurred outside the city's press club, said MA Aziz Sarker, the deputy inspector general of police. "Two journalists were injured, one of them seriously," he said. "We believe the explosion was caused by a bomb and we are investigating the matter".
Recently reported incidents
An alleged Islamic extremist wanted for the 2002 Bali bombings was not killed in a military air strike on rebel groups in the southern Philippines last week, Indonesian police said Thursday. A Philippine military official claimed over the weekend that Dulmatin and a fellow Indonesian militant were among those believed killed when aircraft targeted a rebel meeting in MinÂÂdanao last week. "We have been notified by Interpol that the report is not true," Dadang Garnida, national police deputy detective chief, told AFP. Indonesian police said 
Two suspected 
THE MILITARY yesterday insisted that two operatives of the 
Algerian security forces have dismantled a bomb-making unit of the al Qaeda-aligned Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat (GSPC) and killed four of its members, newspapers said on Sunday. Security forces attacked late on Friday the GSPC's Al Tafjeer brigade, known for its bomb-making expertise and suspected of being behind numerous deadly attacks against authorities in northern Algeria. Four rebels were killed, including two brothers, in the attack in Sidi Daoud in the Boumerdes region, some 50 km (30 miles) east of the capital Algiers. Authorities confiscated four combat arms, including two Kalashnikov AK-47 rifles. Authorities were not immediately available for comment.The attack came a day after anti-terrorist units killed a regional GSPC leader in Cap Djinet, also in Boumerdes province. A soldier was also killed in the hour-long gunfire exchange, newspapers said.
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Insurgents in Iraq yesterday launched fresh attacks with bombs and bullets, killing 21 Iraqis and two US soldiers. Four Iraqi National Guardsmen died in a roadside bombing in Basra and two Iraqi troops died from a blast that hit a patrol in Samarra. The two US soldiers from Task Force Danger were killed in a roadside bombing on Friday night near Baiji.
Indian police found weapons-grade uranium on two men who were arrested in the country's north on suspicion of being drug peddlers, a report said yesterday. The discovery of 253.6 grams of "99 per cent uranium" was made when police pounced on Khurshid and Aslam last December in Uttar Pradesh state's Bareilly district, the Times of India said, giving only the first names of the two men. The uranium plates were found in a lead-lined sophisticated box, police said. 
