The 26th September, the organ of the armed forces, said in its latest issue that the authorities arrested one of al-Houthi's followers and found in his possession al-Houthi's will which states:
'After thanking God, I recommend you to cut off my head as soon as I die, so that my identity wouldn't be revealed. I swear by God, who sent Mohammad the prophet with the truth, I've seen in dream that the prophet, Ali Bin Abi Talib, Alhasan, and Alhusein, with Zaid Ali Musleh, Abdusalam Abdullah and Ali Musleh (considered of al-Houthi's fellow leaders) each one of whom was leading a nation with white flags with the following written on them: 'Congratulations, second Hussein. We were missing you and looking forward to your arrival. You are a martyr and your head will be cut off and put in this box set with gold, emeralds, and a group of angles around it. You are the owner of the two flags.' The letter was concluded by his will to his followers encouraging them to defy and to dismiss doubts of the truth".
"The forces still besiege al-Houthi in Jabal Sulaiman where they expect to find al-Houthi," the sources mentioned. "The authorities are looking for al-Houthi's corpse among 40 burnt and rotten ones found in the embattled areas where al-Houthi followers were entrenched last week. The corpses were transferred to the Al-Salam Hospital in Sada'a after finding al-Houthi's will. The corpses had been buried in valleys or left for dogs." the sources told YT.
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Ok, so we have the will and we know what to do with Al-Houthi's melon when he is killed. Great. Now what about his goodies? Who gets what? Let's get down to the good stuff.
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Gosh, I hope he left me his baseball glove...
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As a sign of the increased vulnerability felt by Kuwait to the twin pressures of the US-led campaign in Iraq and the spread of jihadist ideology throughout the peninsula, the last month has seen some stepped up anti-jihadist activity in the emirate. Last July, a group of Islamist activists were arrested for allegedly recruiting Kuwaitis to fight in Iraq. This followed Syria's extradition to the emirate of four Kuwaitis who were planning to cross into Iraq to join Islamic militant groups there. Subsequently, over the next weeks, Kuwait security forces went on to detain 20 people suspected of operating a recruiting network. Some of the detainees had already undergone military training inside Kuwait or Syria, and the hitherto unsuspected link between Kuwaiti nationals and Iraqi insurgents was highlighted by local media reports - not independently confirmed - of Kuwaitis killed in battles with the US-led forces there.
I wonder what the scale of the training facilities within Kuwait and Syria is? Just somebody's back yard? Or more elaborate training centers?
Of particular interest was the detention in August of Muhsin al-Fadli and Adel Buhaimed, both suspected of being important al-Qaida fund-raisers in the Gulf region. Authorities had been searching for these, and for three other Kuwaitis, one of them a parliamentary aide, on charges of recruiting Kuwaiti youths, most of them juniors under the age of 18.
Get 'em while they're young and stoopid and thinking they're indestructible...
Both al-Fadli and Buhaimed were the subjects of an investigation in 2002 for suspected links to al-Qaida, and on suspicion of sending money to Yemeni Mujahideen for the purpose of blowing up a hotel frequented by US citizens. Members of the same cell in Yemen were also involved in an October 2000 attack on the destroyer USS Cole and an October 2002 attack on the French supertanker the Limburg.
Between the two incidents, seemingly 96 percent of the entire population of Yemen was involved...
Investigators established that travel patterns of the two men indicate that in addition to the bombing of the USS Cole, they were involved in the 12 May 2003 attack on three residential compounds in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Against this backdrop of accelerated jihadist activity, Kuwaiti authorities conducted an investigation into mosque preachers suspected of disseminating hard-line jihadist ideology.
I'll take that seriously when somebody chops off a preacher's head, not before...
Although the investigation also embraced preachers of the Shi'ite denomination, most of the 12 or so under investigation were Sunni clerics of Egyptian nationality, who predominate Kuwaiti mosques. A significant portion of these have ties with the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood which, while advertising its interest in participation within Egypt's political system, is less reticent about calling for radical solutions abroad.
We don't hear an awful lot about formal MB involvement in the jihadi movement, but my guess is that they serve the same funnel purpose as Hezb ut-Tahrir, while also forming a considerable portion of the Learned Elders of Islam. And I don't think there's an "Egyptian" MB and a "Syrian" MB and an "Iraqi" MB I think they're all one. That makes them more dangerous than Hezb ut-Tahrir...
While it is unclear what specific measures the Kuwaiti authorities will take, the Islamic Affairs Minister, Abdullah al-Maatuk, revealed on 18 August that they are setting up three teams of clerics and experts in the fields of sociology, psychology and education, who will draft plans to "combat extremism and terrorism which have reached a dangerous level" in the country.
I'd be more comfortable if they did more than "draft plans," and even more comfortable if the teams also included expert marksmen and large men with truncheons and magnificent moustachios...
The program is particularly geared to "guide and reform" young Kuwaitis returning to the country from Iraq. The Kuwaiti response reflects the exposure of the emirate to Islamic militancy, given its position between Iraq and Saudi Arabia where jihadis have successfully established footholds, and the overt and controversially pro-US policies pursued by its government.
The pro-US policies could have something to do with Kuwait's brief stint as Iraq's 19th province...
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...both suspected of being important al-Qaida fund-raisers in the Gulf region.
I always kinda wondered how that worked. Do they have like a Tupperware party or something?
Four terror suspects are being questioned by police in Hampshire after they were arrested in morning raids. The four men were arrested under the Terrorism Act 2000 in Kenilworth Road, Polygon, central Southampton at 0745 BST. No armed police were used. The men, aged between 26 and 34, are currently being held at separate police stations in Hampshire. Next door neighbour Dan Romani, 20, described the four men as "the quietest neighbours you could have".
That's what they always say.
Mr Romani, a graphic design student, said he came out of his house at 0800 BST to see police in riot gear in the street. He told BBC News Online: "There were a number of police in full riot gear, including one with a baton for breaking down a door. "It must have been a very smooth process as I didn't hear anything and it didn't even wake my girlfriend up. "I moved in a month ago and they keep themselves to themselves. They are the quietest neighbours you could have. I have heard them talking in a foreign language in the hallway, but never in English."
I'd wager their names aren't Nigel and Bruce.
Mr Romani said a mat was always kept across the back window of the top floor flat, preventing people from seeing inside.
Change the word "quiet" to "secretive"
Patricia Othen, who lives across the road, said: "I saw about six plain-clothed policeman in the pathway ready to go into number four and shortly afterwards the whole street was bombarded with police cars, big vans and lots of armed police. "Shortly afterwards four Asian guys dressed in t-shirts were brought out and taken away."
"Asian" means anyone from east of the Med in Kipling speak. I'll take a wild guess and say Pakistani.
"I know the police have been looking at the house for some time because they asked if they could use my house for surveillance."
"Brilliant, Holmes Patricia, how do you do it?"
The scene of the raid is a Victorian terrace in the heart of Southampton's student bedsit area.
Student housing area, lot's of cheap flats, people come and go, good place to blend in.
Police have so far said they are not able to confirm the nationality of the four men.
"We can say no more at this time."
There have been some 600 arrests in the UK under anti-terrorism laws since the September 11 attacks. Of these, about 100 have been charged and a dozen convicted.
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Southampton and nearby Portsmouth = big (biggest in the UK, I think) naval ports. Also host to many ferries to France and Spain. Lots of tempting targets for potential 'spectaculars' in that area...
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But would they notice a bomb had gone off in either?
(speaking as ex-resident)
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I knew it! damn there within 15 fuckin miles of me the bastards, Fawly refinery is the big Danger round here, i think its the biggest rifenary in Europe and has aviation fuel pipe lines running to all major airports or so a mate i work with says,he lives litterally under its shadow about 200 metres from the perimeter, apparently if it went boom it could be anying from a several kiloton blast right up to a megaton size boom that'd take out a huge area,like a nuke basically, i think it is true though and not just 'local folklore' - it'd be a real big disaster. Keep em peeled for any groups of dodgy Mussies prowling your town or city! I've just seen the latest T.V footage from inside Beslen and was truly horrified,its our duty to make sure those religious fuckers cant pull some evil plan off in this country.
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Calm down, Shep. Too much int. They all look dodgy to me. Don't trust a single one, and let them know that. Make them Not Welcome.
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Bring a dozen border collies that have been locked into a 9x9-foot cage for six weeks. I'm sure by that time they'll be ready to herd anything, including moose-limbs (love that!). Guns won't be necessary. Of course, there may be the need for a couple of veterinarians and an ambulance or three to carry off anybody that didn't go where they were herded, but what the heck...
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The Russian Foreign Ministry is to seeking the extradition of a rebel Chechen who has been granted political asylum in Britain. The ministry said Russia will take new steps seeking the extradition of people it says are linked with terrorism, including rebel representatives Akhmed Zakayev, an envoy for separatist former Chechen President Akhmad Kadyrov, who is living in London. A captured gunman from the Beslan school siege said on state TV that he was told Maskhadov was behind the attack. Zakayev today denied that Maskhadov had played any part, and alleged the gunman's TV statement had been extracted under torture. "The claims of President Maskhadov's involvement in the terrorist act are part of a well thought-out disinformation campaign, which also includes officials' statements about the presence of Arab and African fighters and foreign mercenaries among the terrorists," he said. Another target for extradition is Ilyas Akhmadov who living in the US.
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yeah lets ship this sicko off to Russia, we dont want scum here - hamza's going and about time this fellow too plus that al- Mahjiuroun guy as well- ship em out in steel cages like animals.
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Or, Putin could have a flashback to his salad days in the KGB and send a "specialist" with one of those trick umbrellas to London.
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I saw the guy in BBC news the other day. He was spouting the "Russian opperesor" mantra. Send his ass to Russia. Send the ones here in the US back there too.
A French photographer held in Poland for 25 days as a terrorist suspect was unconditionally released for lack of evidence on Tuesday, although a prosecutor insisted the case remained open.
"Yeah. We're keepin' the case open, even though the witnesses are all dead!"
Mickael Neyrolles, 23, was arrested on August 13 while taking pictures of a gas pumping station and was subsequently charged with "preparing acts liable to endanger human lives and destroy property." He told AFP by telephone that his release had come as a complete surprise.
"I was sure they had the goods on me... I mean, I was convinced of my innocence all along!"
"I don't know yet what I'm going to do. I am still stunned. This morning, I did not know I was going to be freed," he said. "For the time being I have no plans apart from eating -- a meal of rice with tomatoes and peppers," said the Frenchman, who headed straight to the home of a Polish friend near the western town of Poznan following his release. Neyrolles was released from a prison in Poznan after a court ruled that "the evidence assembled was insufficient to back up an indictment," said judge Slawomir Jeksa, according to Polish news agency PAP.
"We can't admit this as evidence! All these guys are dead!"
But a prosecutor in the case, Slawomir Ziolkowski, said that the fact that Neyrolles had been released did not mean he had been cleared of all suspicion. "The investigation continues," he said, without providing further detail. The arrest and incarceration of Neyrolles has unfolded in a context of heightened tension and surveillance against terrorism because of Poland's prominent role in the multinational force occupying Iraq. The Polish government "takes very seriously all signs of terrorist danger," Prime Minister Marek Belka said on Polish television station TVN when asked about the case. "Sometimes our special services can commit mistakes, but we prefer to blow hot and cold rather than let a dangerous situation escape our notice," he added, without specifically conceding that the arrest had been in error.
Better safe than sorry
Give it a few more years. After a few Euro schools have been occupied and maybe a plane or two flown into the Eifel Tower and the Brandenburg Gate, it'll be "shoot first and ask questions later."
Polish experts confirmed finding traces of two types of explosives on Neyrolles' clothes, hexogen and TATP (triacetone triperoxide).
That's interesting
"As it is impossible to determine when Mr Neyrolles came into contact with the explosives or their source, the court has recognized that these elements could not provide conclusive proof in this case," the lawyer said. "The experts do not rule out a chance contact" with the explosive substances, she added.
Uh huh
"They ain't my explosives, yer honor! Somebody else musta been wearin' my suit when I wudn't lookin'!"
The mayor of the photographer's hometown in southeastern France had said he was in Poland to take pictures of industrial sites for an exhibition linked to a jazz festival, insisting the arrest was "a huge misunderstanding".
Jazz festival linked to gas pumping station photos, must be a french thing
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From Front Page, an article by Stephen Brown Mournir el Mottasadeq, 30, a native of Morocco, ... is once again facing charges of accessory to murder in more than 3,000 cases and of membership in a terrorist organization. The Moroccan immigrant, who signed Atta's will, was a member of the infamous al Qaeda Hamburg cell of 9/11 death pilots Mohammed Atta, Marwan al-Shehhi and Ziad Jarrah. The accused Muslim was first tried and convicted on these same charges in August, 2002, receiving a 15-year sentence ... However, the guilty verdict was tossed out on appeal last March ... The appeal court judge ... ordered a retrial that started August 10. ...
Ramsi Binalshibh also explained away Motassadeq's power of attorney over suicide pilot Alshehhi's bank account by saying the Moroccan did not know what the money he was distributing was for. The Moroccan Islamist [Mottasadeq], who trained at an al-Qaeda camp in Afghanistan, had also met Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in Pakistan. But the chief planner of 9/11 [Binalshibh] said in his American-provided statements that they never talked about the upcoming terrorist attack, but rather about a trip to Afghanistan. ....
The prosecution in the trial, however, contends the documents lack credibility. Calling Motassadeq the Hamburg 9/11 group's "Statthalter" (governor), it believes he paid bills and provided other assistance, so that cell members could outwardly pose as students while planning the attack. .... Moreover, Binalshibh's statements say that only he and the actual 9/11 assailants knew about the terrorists' flight training in the United States. But in a surprise revelation, a witness at the trial said he met by chance in Hamburg at the start of 2000 a member of the cell, Said Bahaji, who told him Atta was in the United States, learning to fly. The witness, a 32-year-old Turk, said he was astounded because he knew Atta was studying city planning. This brings up the question concerning what Motassadeq, who has always denied any knowledge of Atta's stay in America, actually knew. If Bahaji possessed this information, the prosecution reasons, then why wouldn't Atta's close friend Motassadeq? Bahaji, needless to say, went underground shortly before 9/11 and hasn't been seen since.
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Trains at an AQ camp in Afghanistan, signs Atta's will, pays bills. "I didn't know nothing about nobody" defense. And case is tossed out because Amreekis don't want to divulge sources. Lovely. OK, German justice. Let's get it right the second time, please, or, just like the linked article said, you're going to become a haven.
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I wonder if the picture acconpanying the article is from today. If so, it is notable that there seem to be two armored bulldozers at the back of the column of M1s. Also, the combat is in the 'Industrial" area of Falluja. Could be getting ready for some action as soon as the temps drop below 110.
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I suspect that we are engaged in a big push against the "tough nuts" that are left. Not just a 'revenge' thing, we are planning to break their backs in Fallujah, Sadr City (note big jump in casualties there, today), then probably (or simultaneously) Samarrah, Tall Afar, and clean up in Mosul.
This would also indicate that we are getting the borders closed, and pushing civilians out of the area so we can swat the flies.
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Having to take account of the coming US elections is painful. Syria is a royal pain in the ass and Little Assad needs to be given a strong message, from the air. There should not, IMHO, be any reason that there should be any travel between Syria and Iraq. Iran, I think, is the big nut to crack. I would imagine that we are working on and in that problem in a number of ways, but that is a BIG project. Cutting off the personnel, materiel and such from Syria and Iran would really help the situation.
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BAGHDAD, Iraq Sept. 7, 2004 — U.S. military deaths in the Iraq campaign passed 1,000 Tuesday, an Associated Press tally showed, as a spike in fighting with both Sunni and Shiite insurgents killed seven Americans in scattered clashes in the Baghdad area.
The count includes 998 U.S. troops and three civilian contractors killed while working for the Pentagon. The tally was compiled by the AP based on Pentagon records, AP reporting from Iraq, and reports from soldiers' families.
It includes deaths from hostile and non-hostile causes since President Bush launched a campaign in March 2003 to topple the regime of Saddam Hussein. A few deaths occurred in neighboring Kuwait. So eager was the AP to publish this story that they took any death of any American for any reason. Nonetheless, each death was a tragedy and a sacrifice on our behalf.
The grim milestone was surpassed after a spike in clashes that has killed 14 American service members in the past two days. Two soldiers died in fighting Tuesday with militiamen loyal to rebel Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr. Five other Americans died Tuesday in separate attacks, mostly in the Baghdad area.
During a news conference at the Pentagon, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld anticipated the tally would soon surpass 1,000 and sought to play down the milestone. "When combined with U.S. losses in other theaters in the global war on terror, we have lost well more than a thousand already," he said.
Rumsfeld said the United States and its allies would not be swayed. Those who believe deaths would be a deterrent, he said, "underestimated our country, our coalition. They have failed to understand the character of our people. And they certainly misread our commander in chief."
Let not their deaths be in vain
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....and here goes The Left, they've been drooling over this prospect for weeks. MuRat should be by anytime soon too waving his loincloth.
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But they didn't have box seats in the coliseum to watch the gore! The ticketmaster must be a right-wing conspirator!
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Sorry people, but this thousand number doesn't mean a damn thing where counting casualties is concerned. This current count pales in comparison to our losses in Vietnam and WW2.
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Includes traffic accidents, people falling from buildings, a few heart attacks, etc.
Dead is dead, but keeping it to battle casualties in Iraq, its not to 1000 yet.
WHy not include training accidents stateside, high seas accidental deaths in the Navy, and off-base car accident victims in Germany? Has the same rationale: in uniform and died.
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I think it is long a tradition that in wartime, all deaths in uniform are considered war casualties.
It may be helpful to point out to the leftists that while the press is decrying the thousandth casualty at least they are finally recognizing that we are indeed in a war.
During a raid on a small village near the border with Afghanistan, Pakistani security forces arrested a suspected Al-Qaeda linked Arab militant, officials said. The Saudi man's detention comes amid a major crackdown by Pakistan, however officials said he was apparently not among the most wanted men in the extremist group.
Must of been on the "Kinda Wanted" list.
"The raid was conducted on a tip off that an Al-Qaeda linked militant is hiding in a house in the area," a security official said. "The man, who belongs to Saudi Arabia, identified himself as Abdullah," the official said, requesting anonymity.
Gee, what are the odds?
He was hiding in a house in Shakas village in Jamrud district, about 25 kilometers west of the bordering city of Peshawar, he said. Security forces ringed the fortress-type mud and brick house in the mountainous tribal village and advised him to surrender. "The suspect fired a few shots from his pistol," but was captured after he had run out of ammunition, the official said.
"You'll never take me alive, coppers!" BANG! BANG! click... "Ah, shit."
Witnesses in the village, located near the historic Khyber Pass crossing between Pakistan and Afghanistan, said the suspect was blindfolded before he was bundled into a military vehicle without resistance. Officials said the suspect had been moved to an undisclosed place for interrogation. They said Abdullah could be his code name.
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A mud fortress... sorta of like a wealth of debt.
The bodies of 105 victims of the Beslan hostage situation remain unidentified. "By 6:00 p.m., Tuesday, out of 323 victims [who were delivered to the North Ossetian forensic and criminology office] 105 bodies remain unidentified," head of the North Ossetian president's information and analysis department Lev Dzugayev told Interfax. "In total, 220 bodies were given to relatives, of them, 102 are children's bodies, 42 body fragments are still being studied," Dzugayev said. He also said that 318 people are currently being treated in North Ossetian hospitals, including 191 children. One hundred and sixty funerals took place in Beslan over the last several days, 35 of them took place today, Dzugayev said.
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The MO of Islamic terrorists frequently results in an ambiguous number of deaths because people are blown up.
In this case, it is possible (maybe likely) that people were intentionally disfigured.
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Now, if the EU really wants to help, they should send over some free body-ID forensic experts, discreetly. Not to do something the Russians can't do eventually, but to help them do it faster. Same with the US. Child psychologists and social worker trauma experts would also prolly be able to give some very timely pointers.
Azerbaijan's Serious Crime Court had a preparatory session on Tuesday for a trial of 21 alleged followers of Wahhabism, an ultra-puritanical trend in Islam, who are accused of forming an illegal armed group, a court spokesman said. "According to the indictment, the illegal group was set up in March 2001 by Rovshan Badalov, who is nicknamed Amir. He had been enrolling activists in Georgia, where he met a future member of the group, Vyusal Isayev," the spokesman told Interfax.
Two female Italian aid workers have been kidnapped in Iraq, Italian diplomatic sources said in Rome on Tuesday, local media reported. According to the report the two Italian women seized by gunmen from the Baghdad office, an Italian charity Un Ponte Per Baghdad (Bridge to Baghdad), they were identified as Simona Torretta and Simona Pari. It said Torretta was the mission chief and Pari project chief of the association, founded after the first Gulf War in 1991. An Iraqi engineer working for the organization, identified as 'Rad', was also kidnapped along with a man from another Italian aid organization called InterSOS. Several reports said two Iraqis were also seized but the Italian foreign ministry said three Iraqis had been taken. Arab satellite station Al Jazeera said the gunmen had pretended to be from the Iraqi government. According to Italian TV, the two women have been in Iraq for many years and have recently been working with the United Nations children's fund UNICEF.
Kofi, call your office.
The Italian foreign ministry put its crisis unit into action as Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi returned to Rome from Milan to head a cabinet meeting on the kidnappings. Insurgents have kidnapped more than 100 foreigners since the US-led war on Iraq in March 2003. Some have been ransomed released but most others were brutally killed.
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This can turn out REAL bad. I pray for all to be returned safely.
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ahhhh more courageous military action by the Islamic Heroesâ¢. Feh
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We all hear about how important it is to go to countries in crisis and volunteer, but what is the incentive when the peoples themselves are biting the hand that feeds them? The more kidnappings that happen, the more the volunteer pool will evaporate, leaving the natives with no one to help them. In the end, everyone hopes that countries will be able to help themselves, but in the meantime, we hear only bleating and whining about how the people need help, story after story about kidnappings (and executions), and devaluation of the sacrifices of the coalition and aid workers. This is a grand lesson for the needy world on the value of gratitude.
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I don't think the Iraqi people are biting the hand that feeds them but rather the local no-goodniks are trying to prevent the erosion of their power structure. The inherent power structure of a tribal culture is: 'Who is the gate-keeper for food, money, goods, medicine, education, jobs, et cetera?'. When charities or even the CPA provide these things directly to the Iraqi people, the gate-keepers get really nervous. No monopoly on goodies = no power.
Two small homemade bombs exploded in Dhaka on Tuesday, injuring five people and adding to a climate of fear spread by a recent upsurge in violence across Bangladesh. Police said one blast wounded two labourers digging earth near a hockey stadium while the other hurt three children playing outside their home at Jurain on the outskirts of the capital. "Those were small home-made bombs -- like many recently found across the country and believed planted by unknown groups as a scare tactic," one police officer said, without giving details.
Hundreds of irate Afghans attacked an aid agency run by the spiritual leader of the Ismaili sect after rumors spread the office was involved in converting majority Sunni Muslims to Ismaili beliefs, officials said.
You're just not allowed to do that. Once you're a Sunni, you can't even become another kind of Moose limb, much less something where you're allowed to think.
Several local and foreign employees of the Agha Khan Development Network were beaten during Tuesday's attack in Faizabad, capital of Badakhshan province, but no one was badly hurt, said the government officials. They said the attack was provoked by rumors the agency was using its aid projects to convert Sunni Muslims. But a senior official of the aid agency, who also did not want to be identified by name, said the attack was the result of a misunderstanding involving two local women employees. He said the women had become delirious after working to fortify wheat in a poorly aired room and a rumor spread that they had been deliberately drugged and sexually assaulted.
"The wimmins! They're woozy! Their eyes are crossed! They musta got laid!"
"Hrarrrr! Get a rope, boyz!"
"Both the women and the hospital said this was not true, but the rumor spread like wildfire," he said. He said a large crowd gathered and began hurling stones at the office and a group tried to set fire to the building. Police intervened to disperse the attackers, and no serious injuries were reported.
"Mahmoud, take yer boyz and go home! Ain't no Ismailis bein' lynched in my town!"
Ismailis, who follow a Shia sect of Islam, are a small minority in Afghanistan. Some live in remote areas of Badakhshan, an impoverished mountainous region near the border with Tajikistan, where the sect has tens of thousands of followers. The sect is looked down upon by some Hardline Sunni clerics and its followers were persecuted during the rule of the Taliban until 2001. Since U.S.-led forces overthrew the Taliban, the Agha Khan has set up a range of aid projects in the country and has launched the second-largest mobile telephone company, called Roshan.
"But that's nuttin'! Nuttin', I tells yez! What matters ain't what y' do! What matters is the color of yer turban!"
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rumors spread fast when your avg citizen doesn't know how to read and gets all their info from gossip and the local turban head. Can you imagine if they tried to fluoridate the water? LOL
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Afghans Storm Agha Khan Aid Office, Beat Staff
Are they allowed to do that in public?
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I've got three kitchen appliances I feel more for than shias. I have 14 gardening tools I'd rather have sharpe than spare the sunni.
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IIRC Agha Khan opposed the formation of Pakistan, and wanted to be part of India - at the time of partition he was very influential in NWFP, and surprising, advocated Ghandian non-violent techniques. This is about more than religion.
Coalition and Afghan National Army Soldiers found four weapons' caches Monday. The first cache, which Coalition Soldiers found near Ghazni, included 80 120 millimeter mortars, 150 82 millimeter mortars, 20 122 millimeter rockets, 1,000 rounds 14.5 millimeter small arms ammunition, and 950 rounds 12.7 millimeter small arms ammunition. That cache has already been destroyed.
"Mahmoud! I told you to put that cigar out!"
"Yes, sir!"
[KABOOM!]
"Command, this is Guard Post 3! Weapons cache destroyed!"
ANA soldiers found a second weapons cache in a house in Shindand.
"Ahmed, you want to explain this here weapons cache under yer sink?"
"It ain't mine! Honest! It was there when we bought the house!"
The cache contained 734 anti-tank mines and fuses. They discovered the cache during presence patrols and searches of the area and have moved the cache to Shindand airfield.
"Mahmoud! You got any o' them seegars left?"
Explosive Ordnance Disposal personnel will destroy it. Coalition Soldiers discovered a third cache this morning near Tarin Kowt. The cache included two machine guns and one sniper rifle, an anti-aircraft gun, 20 boxes of hand grenades, three 82 millimeter mortar tubes, 300 AK-47s and AKM assault rifles, 12 to 14 anti aircraft tubes and a conex military shipping container full of rocket-propelled grenades and mortar tubes. Most of the weapons are old and unserviceable. The serviceable weapons will be destroyed. Coalition Soldiers found the fourth weapons cache near Orgun-E. The cache included 75 boxes of machine gun rounds, which the Coalition Soldiers picked up.
"Hmmm... Machinegun rounds, eh? We can use these!"
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It amazes me how Islamic countries are swarming with weapons and ammo, yet all they do is terror attacks and if they do take on soldiers they hide behind women and children. They are pathetic.
Three persons including two army men were killed and two others seriously injured when a landmine they were trying to defuse exploded at Jag Zhawara in Shakai Valley of South Waziristan Agency on Monday. The tribesmen called the army personnel after they saw a landmine planted by saboteurs on a kutcha road around five kilometres from Shakai area. The security officials along with Political Moharar Aslam and a tribesman Amir Rehman rushed to the site. The landmine exploded when the personnel of armed forces were busy defusing it. Two army men along with a tribesman Amir Rehman were killed in the incident while another tribesman Aslam and a jawan of the Pakistan armed forces sustained serious injuries. Soon after the incident. Both civil and military high-ups rushed to the site and supervised the rescue operation. The injured were taken to hospitals in Wana.
Sounds like everyone was crowded around the landmine when somebody jostled the EOD guys elbow.
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Dozens of Taliban militiamen raided a government office in southern Afghanistan, sparking a battle in which four rebel fighters and an Afghan soldier were killed, hours before campaigning began Tuesday for presidential elections, official said. Elsewhere in the southern province of Zabul, U.S. and Afghan troops battled Taliban, killing two fighters and capturing two others. Supporters of the Taliban have threatened to sabotage Afghanistan's October elections, the first national vote since the hard-line Islamic militia was ousted from power. Interim leader Hamid Karzai, the favorite in the race, and his 17 challengers began campaign Tuesday.
Zabul is a rugged region where Taliban holdouts often attack Afghan security forces, foreign aid workers and U.S. troops. In the bloodiest clash, about 60 Taliban fighters came down from nearby mountains and stormed the chief administrator's office in Naubahar district on Monday night, said Jilani Khan, deputy chief of police in Zabul. Both sides used AK-47 rifles and heavy machine guns and fought for about two hours before the attackers retreated to the hills, Khan said. One government soldier was killed and another one was injured in the clash. The Taliban left behind four dead, he said. "The dead bodies of the Taliban are with us. The other Taliban ran away," Khan said.
"Quetta, here we come!Feet, don't fail me now!"
He said additional Afghan troops have been sent to Naubahar from Qalat, Zabul's capital, to beef up security in the district. In other fighting on Monday, Taliban opened fire on American and Afghan forces who were searching for militants in Sori district, said Zabul Gov. Khial Mohammed. Two Taliban fighters were killed and two others -- one of them wounded -- were captured. The Afghan and U.S. troops suffered no casualties. (This is indeed the best news!)
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A university student skilled in bomb-making has taken charge of Algeria's largest Islamic rebel movement but the al Qaeda-linked group is fighting for its survival as the army pounds its hideouts and members surrender. The GSPC said in an undated statement obtained by Reuters on Monday that Abdelmalek Droukdel, previously thought to have been killed in combat, had been made chief three months after the death of Nabil Sahraoui.
It took three months to convince him to climb into the barrel. That's a good sign.
All the group's top leaders apart from Droukdel, 33, have either been killed in battle or arrested in recent months. "He's the last senior terrorist to have the stature to salvage the GSPC," said Mounir Boudjema, an expert on rebels and editor at influential daily Le Quotidien d'Oran. "He is faithful to Sahraoui's philosophy and membership of al Qaeda."
"He's big into bloodstains..."
The GSPC statement was seen as a rallying call to members, in line with the tradition of Algerian militants of announcing appointments or attacks in a bid to discredit authorities' claims to be winning their war against fundamentalists. Droukdel, alias Abou Mossab Abdelouadoud, is faced with unifying factions and halting the surrender of members as the army pounds key units in the mountainous Boumerdes province. The GSPC funds its activities through robberies and extortion, particularly in the province just east of Algiers.
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as the army pounds its hideouts and members surrender.
good to see some success by an army of a muslim country against the Jihadi Salafi terrorists.
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I had to read the first line 3 times before I realized it said, "skilled in bomb-making" rather than "killed in bomb-making". Ah, well. It's just a matter of time before he loses his "s".
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Suspected Al-Qaeda operative Abu Mussab al-Zarqawi's group claimed a car bombing that killed seven US soldiers and three Iraqi national guards, along with the downing of an unmanned drone, according to a videotape obtained by AFP. Two men bravely wearing in black hoods, gripping automatic weapons, sat on a rug with debris from the drone, with the name of the Jordanian-born Zarqawi's group Tawhid wal Jihad (Unity and Holy War) written on a piece of its wing. "Your courageous brothers from the Faruq Brigade of Tawhid wal Jihad gunned down two drones south of Fallujah and they also detonated a car bomb in Saqlawiya north of Fallujah that resulted in the killing of more than 30 ulouj (leeches)," one said, using a derogatory term for Westerner. "God is greatest. Glory to God his messenger and their believers," the hooded man said. One of the men, identified as Abu Abdul Rahman, said he shot down the two drones Monday night with his Kalashnikov, but the US marines reported losing only one of the aircraft.
Earlier, a group identifying itself as Tawhid wal Jihad claimed attacks on US forces and Iraqi police on an Islamic website. One of the statements, dated Monday, claimed members of the group "led a martyr operation against a group of soldiers of the American tyrant and apostate mercenaries of the Iraqi army... killing more than 10." The second, dated Sunday, claimed "two martyr operations against elements of the Iraqi police and American army in Latifiya, south of the capital... killing more than 50 and wounding more than 60." The statements were signed by "the military branch of the Tawhid wal Jihad" group and posted on the website www.ansarnet.ws/vb. Their authenticity could not be verified. Neither claim detailed when the operations took place. On Sunday, 12 Iraqi policemen were killed in a raid in the town of Latifiya during which some 500 Iraqis suspected of links with insurgents groups were arrested.
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"God is greatest. Glory to God his messenger and their believers," the hooded man said.
So twisted, so sick.
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Not to be a cynic, and bow down before Jihadi Joe's press releases, but....his carbombings seem closer to home. We are closing on him.
As soon as you Merkins finish your strategic (electoral) pause, we can gut their network.
As far as UAVs, um, well, that's what they are for.
Russian Deputy Prosecutor-General Sergei Fridinskii said on 3 September that two of the hostage takers, whom he claimed included Arabs as well as Chechens, Ingush, and Ossetians, were captured alive. On 6 September, RTR broadcast footage of a man it identified as the sole surviving hostage taker, Nur-Pasha Kulaev. Kulaev claimed a man known as "Colonel" ordered him and his fellow hostage takers to attack the school in Beslan, and that "they told us this task had been set" by Chechen President Aslan Maskhadov and radical field commander Shamil Basayev.
That contradicts his previous statement that only the Colonel knew what the target was going to be. But then, the SpetsSluzhby have probably been working on him. I suppose it could also be what the Colonel told them when they were already there, with a school full of kiddies and some of the hard boyz feeling queasy...
Kulaev apparently did not explain whom he meant by "they." The "Colonel" reportedly said the aim of the hostage taking was to unleash a war across the entire Caucasus. In an interview with RFE/RL's North Caucasus Service on 7 September, Maskhadov's representative Akhmed Zakaev said the confession of the man shown on Russian television was clearly obtained under torture.
Somehow my heartstrings remain untugged...
He said claims of Maskhadov's involvement in the hostage taking, and the allegations that the hostage takers also included Arabs and African mercenaries, are "part of a well-planned disinformation campaign." Zakaev said the hostage taking was carried out by "local radical groups" that are supported by people overwhelmed by the need for personal revenge for the brutalities committed by the Russian Army.
"So the obvious thing to do was to take a school full of children, some of them babies, hostage and kill as many of them as they could. What Muslim wouldn't react the same way?"
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I wonder if the French and Germans have seen the scores of baby photos from this massacre?
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As of September 6th, the number of people killed during the initial stages of the Beslan hostage taking and during the shoot-out on 3 September had risen to 335 hostages and troops, plus 30 hostage takers; 411 people remain hospitalized, Russian media reported. More than 100 people are still missing. The death toll in the 2002 Moscow theater hostage taking was 129. Confusion still surrounds the events on 3 September that impelled Russian elite troops to storm the school building. Some eyewitnesses claim that the troops attacked the school after two explosions were heard inside, others say the hostage takers opened fire at Emergency Situations Ministry personnel whom the hostage takers had given permission to remove the bodies of dead hostages from the school yard, while former Ingushetian President Ruslan Aushev told "Novaya gazeta" on 6 September that parents of hostages opened fire on the hostage takers.
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Dear Rantburg;
When news like this comes out, and some muslim apologist starts ranting about how bad Russia has been for Muslims, I feel like capping a whole lot of Muslims in the head. Does this make me a bad person?
Sincerely,
Thomas
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yes, in islam your intention is everything in determining if something is right or wrong. For instance, if you kill a child to protect the light of islam then you have done nothing wrong. But if you kill a child just for the heck of it then it is wrong and allen will punish you with a good roasting in hellfire.
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If you still suffer from pangs of conscience for your deeds committed in the name of saving islam from the infidels, then I recommend extra prayers/and or a pilgrimage to mecca. That will wipe your slate as clean as a whistle and you will not have to worry your little head any more about what you have done.
allen who is most compassionate and merciful to muslims more than anyone else is going to take care of you. Dontcha worry ;)
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OK, penance of a cent in the spare penny cup, to gain forgiveness for my assault on Islam---and to aid the convenience store hegemonic Islamification of America, Check.
But I'm not clear about the whole saving islam from the infidels? Why the fark would I want to do that?
Arab nationals shooting down Russian school children. Jihad's Serial Killers Inc. has shown its true evil, once again. SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Monday, September 6th, 2004
Russian investigators said Arab operatives linked to Al Qaida played a major role in the takeover of a Russian school in which 400 people were killed. Russian officials said authorities have determined that 10 of the 32 suicide attackers who took over a high school in Beslan in North Ossetia last week were nationals from several Arab countries. Most of the attackers were Chechens and Ingush who had been trained at Al Qaida camps in Afghanistan. The 10 Arab nationals came from Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Syria, officials said. They said security forces seized notebooks in Arabic in the school taken over by insurgents. Officials said survivors told authorities that some of the captors spoke Arabic during the three-day hostage ordeal. All of the captors were said to have been killed, but three accomplices were arrested, Middle East Newsline reported.
The Arab nationals were said to have been recruited in the Middle East and hosted by Shamil Basayev, head of the Chechen insurgency and aligned with Al Qaida. "We're hoping to release additional information over the next few days," an official said. "But precise details will require cooperation from our allies." The officials said the attackers were trained in Al Qaida camps in Afghanistan and financed by Abu Omar Al Seif, regarded as a leading Al Qaida operative and the organization's representative in Chechnya. Al Seif, identified as the chief Islamic ideologue in the Chechen insurgency, was brought to Chechnya in 1995 by Saudi national Samir Saleh Abdullah Al Suwailem, known as Abu Khattab. Abu Khattab was said to have been killed in 2002.
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who'da thunk it? ROPma adherents and Lions of the Desert⢠ranging so far from home? Syria/Lebanon, Saudi, Iran, and to a lesser extent, Jordan, are setting themselves up for consequences of biblical proportion.
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Got to use up those "air miles", get 3,000 extra for every child killed.
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Yes indeed, very correct, 'consequences of biblical proportion' shall be forthcoming since deliberately plotting the mass murder of school children can not be allowed to stand without severe retaliations to state sponsors of this form of jihadic promoted bloodbaths.
In addition, once Iran's ruling cutthroats are ousted. and Tehran's massive OPEC oil profits to spread their version of jihad is halted, hopefully within a few months after Bush is re-elected, the other instigators of terror within the 'Iranian Shi'ite Axis' will be on their own and easier to deal with in a lasting solution, i.e., Syria-Lebanon.
The other main jihad exporter is of course Wahhabi cult controlled Saudi Arabia. The political & geostrategic will to tackle this job must come from Bush himself and let existing crude oil agreements be dammed, since massive amounts of Saudi oil export profits are funded back to the very terrorist cells & world-wide 'Islamic centre's which have a stated goal to exterminate U.S.
Allowing the current Wahhabi dictatorship to carry on as usual is tantamount to eventual self destruction, even if the Iranian Axis is swiftly dealt with.
The Russian school massacre should be a wake up call for further meaningful unity to counter the terrorist horde coupled with any and all Muslim, and or, non Muslim governments, as in (Cuba-North Korea-Venezuela), which have been lending various forms of state sponsored 'assistance' from illegal arms, diamonds and narcotics trading.
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Monday, September 6th, 2004 BAGHDAD — Iraqi and U.S. troops targeted a hub for Al Qaida-inspired fighters based in Syria in northern Iraq over the weekend. Officials said units from the U.S. Army and Iraqi National Guard raided the city of Tall Afar in an attempt to destroy a haven for Islamic fighters from Syria. Officials said the force included a battalion from the U.S. Army's 2nd Infantry Division as well as a unit from the Iraqi National Guard. "The city of Tall Afar has been a suspected haven for terrorists crossing into Iraq from Syria," the U.S. military said in a statement.
The battle in Tall Afar, about 60 kilometers west of Mosul, lasted throughout Sunday, Middle East Newsline reported. Officials said U.S. combat units and Iraqi forces, backed by helicopters, battled insurgents for several hours before withdrawing from Tall Afar. During the battle, the coalition force employed attack helicopters, F-16 multi-role fighters and main battle tanks while the insurgents responded with mortar and light arms gunfire. Witnesses said that on Sept. 4 snipers struck a U.S. Army OH-58D Kiowa helicopter, which was forced to make an emergency landing. At least 15 casualties were reported in Tall Afar.
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U.S. tanks pounded targets in the rebel-held Sunni Muslim town of Falluja west of Baghdad on Tuesday and U.S. warplanes could be seen flying overhead, witnesses said. Hours earlier, a car bomb attack on a U.S. patrol outside Falluja, west of Baghdad, killed seven American marines and three Iraqi National Guardsmen, in the deadliest single attack on U.S. forces in five months. The U.S. military had no immediate comments on U.S. operations in Falluja. There were no immediate reports of casualties. Witnesses said tanks opened fire on buildings in the southeast district of Falluja and that militants returned fire.
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so is this the beginning of the end in Fallujah?
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It better be, too many of out boys have been lost and the terrorist bosses are still walking around.
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This rats nest needs to be cleaned out and now. It will not be pretty if we really go in to get the job done, but the Pres needs to have the stones to complete the job. I don't think it can wait until after the election. I am increasingly concerned that our go-slow approach is only breeding more resistance. We need to finish one of these operations and really crush the opposition.
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U.S. Marines in Ramadi, one of the deadliest cities in Iraq for American forces, decided in June to halt their patrols through the town and set up observation posts in tall buildings instead. The idea was to show respect for Iraqi sovereignty and cut down on battles with insurgents, in which innocent civilians could be injured. But rather than reducing tensions, the new strategy may be having the opposite effect. "When we were originally doing patrols, foot and vehicle, a guy would see the coalition pass by his house for 30 seconds once a week and that would be the extent of his contact," said Lt. Jonathan Hesener, a Marine platoon commander. "But now everyone in Ramadi sees us on top of the hotel every day as they drive down the street. To them, it's not decreased presence. It's a symbol of occupation." [...] interesting profile/timeline for Ramadi
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"..To them, itâs not decreased presence. Itâs a symbol of occupation."
Well, duh. We're not "guests".
Suggestion: Do what you guys were doing before, and don't worry about respecting "Iraqi sovereignty". They can't do the job themselves yet, so we've got to do it for them and that doesn't mean trying to sanitize our efforts. If we have to kill insurgents, then we should kill them. Losing innocent lives in the process is going to come with the territory, and it's not going to change just because we're agonizing over it. If anything, terrorists are taking note of this increased concern over civilian casualties, and are planning to make future clashes even bloodier affairs for civilians, in the hope of dissuading U.S. forces from doing anything at all.
Israeli helicopters attacked a Hamas training camp in Gaza City today, killing at least 14 people in the deadliest air strike on Palestinian militants in four years of violence. 14 people, not 14 Hamas terrorists.
The army said it struck a camp Hamas used to train militants in firing mortars and rockets. In the past month, Hamas assembled a large bomb and a suicide bomber's explosives belt at the training camp, the army added. Those Jews always killing people!
In Gaza, children stayed home from school today and shops remained closed in a sign of mourning. Black smoke billowed over the city as students burned tyres at spontaneous demonstrations. Back in school, we had snow days. In Gaza, they have revenge days.
During the past four years of fighting, Israel has frequently targeted Palestinian militants with air strikes and other military operations. But the strikes are usually aimed at very specific targets usually senior members of the group or militants on their way to an attack. Today's attack was the first time the army had targeted such a large gathering of militants. At least five helicopter missiles pounded the Hamas camp in the Shajaiyeh section of Gaza City shortly after midnight. There was pandemonium at Gaza's Shifa Hospital as casualties arrived in ambulances and cars. Blood-spattered Palestinians carried dead and wounded into the emergency room, while others went straight to the morgue carrying plastic bags with body parts. Hundreds of angry Palestinians, many of them members of the Hamas military wing with blood on their clothes, gathered outside, shouting "Revenge, revenge". "This bloody crime is a new wave of aggression committed against our people and against our sons," said Hamas spokesman Mushir al-Masri. "It's an ongoing war. One day for us and one day for them." Palestinian officials said all 14 of the dead were Hamas members, although only 11 had been identified by midmorning. 14 people, not 14 active terrorists.
The Hamas military wing said Israel had struck a "scouts camp where a group of fighters was training" and pledged revenge.
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Why yes, they're people, (two arms, legs, etc.) or at least they were.
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Better watch it, Gromky. UFOOL thinks you're his buddy. Doesn't appear to have grasped that "sarcasm" concept yet.
I know it's early, but can I have fries with that, UFOOL?
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tu, "trainees" are civilians, or as stated above, "not active terrorists", but above all, the poster does not incite hatred by expessing his own hate toward another human being. Further, sarcasm does not incite hatred, if anything, it lightens the tone of a morbid message.
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Trainees are civilians my ass. We're past the point where we wait for them to do an operation first. Train with the Death Cult branch of your choice and your life is forfeit.
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Members of terrorist organizations -- whether they're "in training" or not -- may be freely killed whenever and whereever they're found. They are protected by NO laws or treaties ever written by civilized man.
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I posted the earlier "hateful twist" article, and all I can say is: if Boris doesn't like it I musta done something verrrry right
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The Hamas military wing said Israel had struck a âscouts camp where a group of fighters was trainingâ and pledged revenge.
Sorry boys, but this is revenge for Beersheba.
The only thing that disappointed me about this attack is that more Hamas members weren't killed.
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Yeah, I know. This is like Hamas's version of Junior Achievement, right? They all just wanna grow up and run cement plants, like all the big shots, right?
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VA, you are fomenting forejudgement aggrevated by proposing the execution of sentence which in this case is death, depriving the defendant of the right to appeal -- now that you have stated your positionn, doesn't he have the same right, especially since you are placing yoursels above the law -- think about it.
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Boris, let me state it again, another way: Membership in a terrorist organization is sufficient to remove a person from the human race, making that person subject to death whenever and where ever civilized men can find them.
There's nothing bizarre or novel about this; it's the traditional -- and accepted -- way to deal with groups that place themselves outside of all laws. The Geneva Convention, for example, is quite clear that it applies only to those who have signed on to it (terrorists have not) and who abide by its rules (again, terrorists do not).
And, no, the "defendant" (your word; I'd call them terrorists to be perfectly clear) does not have the same "right". I am abiding by laws and civilization, so I am still entitled to their protection; the terrorists, by joining organizations that openly commit atrocities, have abandoned their claim for protection under law.
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What the hell was #12 supposed to mean? I've read it twice and can't make heads or tails of it. Hang around a terrorist training camp, and don't be surprised if you're judged by the company you keep. Toop bad it was only fourteen.
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"Trainees" are co-conspirators. Supporters are also co-conspirators. Any business or facility (schools too) closed in sympathy should be leveled immediately.
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Those are some big, convoluted words there, UFOOL. Bet you impress the shit out of babes while you're handing them their orders at the drive through window.
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I doubt they let UFOOL work drive-through. He's probably on the grill.
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RC, the article speaks of terrorists as defined by Israel which doesn't obey either International Law or UN resolutions, therefore your argument fails. The part that I resent is that under Zionist control US supports Israel in the UN Security Council and invites retaliation by injured parties, call them whatever you want.
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#12: The terrorists have already granted themselves that right - think about it. Their actions identify them as the equivalent of mad dogs. They have long since abandoned the constraints of civilization and with them the protection of the legalisms you cling to. I'll say it again, when they join the war on civilization, their actions make their lives forfeit.
#21: No one who has paid any real attention to the events of the last 20 years can honestly believe that if Israel ceased to exist tomorrow the goals and actions of the Death Cult would change one iota. Israel and the Paleostinians are one of their excuses, not their cause.
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UFO, So the answer is to let Jihadists train and attack before we (or anyone else) should try and stop them? Wow you really need to join the Kerry Kamp. That is just the kind of logic that let terrorists come to America, Train, and they fly jets into the twin towers. That is if you believe that story. I think what Israel did was not only right but should be repeated on ALL Islamofacists organizations. Kill them BEFORE they have a chance to attack us! Our survival depends on that strategy.
P.S. Stick the 'International Law' in your ear!
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There's a superb play-by-play account of this terrorist fiasco that I'll be posting after the changeover tonight. That way, we can all share the joy for another whole day.
When you think of how close Israel got to parity (14 Hamas vs. 16 Israelis) and, more importantly, how many other Israeli lives were saved by snuffing these murderers before they got their bomb vests on, it's almost enough to make you cheer. Job well done (as in thoroughly roasted Hamas long pig), Israel!
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This article was posted earlier with a hateful twist, and here with poster's comments minus the hate -- how refreshing. Now let's hear the Zionists on this board scream about "Those Jews always killing people!" calling it anti-Semitic.
Fighting between US forces and Shia insurgents across Baghdad's Sadr City suburb has left at least 34 dead. Clashes in the last 24 hours also injured at least 170 Iraqis, health officials said. One US soldier is among the dead and several were wounded.
Also in Baghdad, the city's governor narrowly escaped an assassination attempt targeting his convoy. The attackers blew up a bomb by the road and shot at Ali al-Haidri's car as it passed through western Baghdad. A US army captain quoted by Associated Press says said the American soldier was killed by small arms fire when militants attacked troops carrying out routine patrols in Sadr City. "We just kept coming under fire," Capt Brian O'Malley said. Loud explosions and gunfire were heard across Sadr City - a slum area in north-east Baghdad - on Monday night, lasting into the morning. [snip] Breaking...
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"Shia insurgents" Must be, why yes it is, it's the BBC. Haters of anything Anglo-American. Time to kill some more Sadr terrorists.
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Wowww, 5 GI's death in the last 24 hours and 1100 GI's wounded last month, seems you guys are improving the situation there. Strange folks those Iraqis, 90% of them don't like to be "liberated".
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And 90% comes from a reliable source? The ex-pat Iraqis in London appear extremely grateful.
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Let's take reliable sources from the US then:
The 18 monthâs toll since the Iraq war started: close to 1000 death, 7000 wounded (according to US Defence Department official numbers, real numbers are disclosed). The US army and Marines lost 66 dead and 1,100 injured in August after fierce fighting against Shia fighters in Najaf as well as in the continuing war with Sunni guerrillas further north. Many severely wounded US soldiers, who would have died from injuries such as the loss of all their limbs in the Korean or Vietnam wars, now survive because of improved medical treatment.
Impressive 1000/18 = 55 deaths/month, 7000/18 = 388 wounded/month, the Iraqis must luv you.
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And according to Landstuhl Medical Center in Germany where American wounded are transported to, to keep them out of sight of the American public there are already over 12,000 battlefield casualties (US Defence Department says 7,000) from Iraq.
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Oops, forgot the link: http://abcnews.go.com/sections/WNT/World/landstuhl_040808-1.html
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I wouldn't begin to dispute military casualties - just wondered where the 90% stat came from... ummm... your head?
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Come on Murat we all know you're full of shit, now you get a chance to prove us wrong. Answer the question, where is the 90% figure from?
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Hey, Murat, we're still waiting for the evidence you claimed to have of my "real" identity. Stop being a coward and stand behind your words.
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-"Anfal" campaign against the Kurdish minority, 1987-88. This brutal response to a Kurdish uprising in northern Iraq involved gas attacks on villages, including the town of Halabja in March 1988. Hundreds of villages were razed as large areas were ethnically cleansed of Kurds. About 100,000 Kurds were killed.
100,000/12 months = 8,000+ Kurd deaths per month
- Kuwait occupation, August 1990-February 1991. Thousands of Kuwaitis murdered, raped or imprisoned by Iraq's occupying forces. About 600 people disappeared and the country's oilfields were destroyed.
Discounting the âthousandsâ¦murdered, raped or imprisonedâ, consider:
600/6 months = 100 disappearing Kuwaitis per month
- Crushing of the Kurdish and Shia uprisings, March-May 1991. Saddam forced about 450,000 Kurdish refugees to flee towards Iraq's northern border with Turkey. Thousands more were killed. In the south, his Republican Guard tank units attacked the Shia holy cities of Najaf and Karbala. Between 30,000 and 60,000 Shias were killed.
30,000 to 60,000/3 months = 10,000 to 20,000 Shias killed per month
So, using Muratâs logicâ¦thereâs a whole bunch of Iraqis (Kurds/Shias) and Kuwaitis that are better off now Saddam/or his sons are no longer in power.
And, our servicemen are giving up their lives to give all of them an opportunity for a better life. The operational word being âlifeâ.
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-"Anfal" campaign against the Kurdish minority, 1987-88. This brutal response to a Kurdish uprising in northern Iraq involved gas attacks on villages, including the town of Halabja in March 1988. Hundreds of villages were razed as large areas were ethnically cleansed of Kurds. About 100,000 Kurds were killed.
100,000/12 months = 8,000+ Kurd deaths per month
- Kuwait occupation, August 1990-February 1991. Thousands of Kuwaitis murdered, raped or imprisoned by Iraq's occupying forces. About 600 people disappeared and the country's oilfields were destroyed.
Discounting the âthousandsâ¦murdered, raped or imprisonedâ, consider:
600/6 months = 100 disappearing Kuwaitis per month
- Crushing of the Kurdish and Shia uprisings, March-May 1991. Saddam forced about 450,000 Kurdish refugees to flee towards Iraq's northern border with Turkey. Thousands more were killed. In the south, his Republican Guard tank units attacked the Shia holy cities of Najaf and Karbala. Between 30,000 and 60,000 Shias were killed.
30,000 to 60,000/3 months = 10,000 to 20,000 Shias killed per month
So, using Muratâs logicâ¦thereâs a whole bunch of Iraqis (Kurds/Shias) and Kuwaitis that are better off now Saddam/or his sons are no longer in power.
And, our servicemen are giving up their lives to give all of them an opportunity for a better life. The operational word being âlifeâ.
Murat, the 12,0000 casualty number is unattributed in the story, that is, no named source, in other words. I get to suspect that stat as false until you can show an official source for that number.
ABC sure didn't bother to attribute it. So why should you, right?
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So, using Muratâs logicâ¦thereâs a whole bunch of Iraqis (Kurds/Shias) and Kuwaitis that are better off now Saddam/or his sons are no longer in power.
Supposing that all of what you say is right RN (you have no proof, merely allegations), so why are Iraqis fighting occupating Americans then, Saddam is no excuse anymore, try something else.
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Murat try Iranian funded terrorists, foreign Arab Islamists' and a smattering of deposed Saddam loyalists' you moron.
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Murat, If they truely want American's to leave, quit shooting at them. They'll leave. The world has complained when the American's leave too early. As long as they keep shooting at them, it's too early. Oh, that's right. It 's always better to lose tens of thousands of your young people, than try something the Muslim faith is famous for, peace. Which would work.
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The "proof" is in the photos of the gassed cities where adults and children lie in groups where they fell and in the thousands of mass graves we're being taken to, and uncovering in the desert.
I suppose you donât believe in the Holocaust either?
There will always be remnants of the previous regime (which we put out of power) and disgruntled/fanatic splinter groups that want power who will fight until the last one of them is killed or convinced to mend their ways.
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Murat try Iranian funded terrorists, foreign Arab Islamists' and a smattering of deposed Saddam loyalists'
No buddy, I should try WMD, nuclear weapons, aiding AlQaeda like Bush did :)
I wonder how long it will take till Iraq-syndrome (Vietnam syndrome) becomes effective. Your army is unable to quell the insurgency, the mess you produced keeps growing and last month was a record in US casualties, keep up that good work!
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You are totally nonsensical Murat. The only reason I responded to your drivel in the first place is because I got tired of reading your anti-American BS. I'm still waiting to hear about where that 90% figure came from by the way.
Your last post proves to me you haven't the faintest idea of what your talking about.
There are less than 170,000 total troops in the coalition there.
IF even 10% were up in arms, they would run us out of there very quickly.
The people "rebelling" are Saddamists, Al Qaueda backed terrorists, and a band of ciminals led by a criminal (Sadr). Remember that Saddam emptied the prisons - meaning every single thug, murderer, thief and rapist was let go, and there wer no police to stop them. That's who is causing the mayhem - and thats who Sadr seems to have attracted to form his "Army".
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Murat's real beef is that an American army in Iraq deters the Turks from their regularly scheduled genocide.
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Murat, my sweet,
If we could stick it out in hostile Germany for over fifty years, and in hostile South Korea for over forty, I think we can handle a few over-enthusiastic criminals in Iraq for a little while longer.
Besides, they are counting on Kerry to win the presidency, which his own people now don't seem to think is very likely. How do you think a second Bush term will affect "rebel" moral?
To while away the time between now and November 2nd, may I suggest you read The Anti-American Obsession by the French intellectual and journalist Jean François Revel. On its pages will be revealed whose ideas you so uncritically endorse, and their basis. I imagine you will find it quite illuminating.
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Murat thinks America is the looney left and the academic elite. Sorry Murat - they don't have the numbers to even support one radio station.
The rest of America is getting ready to remember 911 - and is getting more pissed with each atrocity.
As you are well aware, we haven't even shifted into 3rd gear yet, much less overdrive.
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The people were repeating words that support the ING and IP and wanted the government to put an end to what they called âa disgraceâ and âcrimesâ that happened in AlNajaf especially the courts of Muqtada... Let the world know the real Iraqi people, the people who look for peace and justice, security , freedom and democracy..not those criminals who are shown on the channels kidnapping and killing the innocents in the name of âresistance and Islamââ¦there is NO âresistanceâ in Iraq, there are AlQaida, Saddamis, Arabs and criminals who are destroying our country and the MNF, ING, IP and the IRAQI PEOPLE are fighting themâ¦.
Must be the 10%
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Do you guys know what is the most popular product sold in Iraq right now? It's a CD, not some kind of song or movie, but a CD that shows the beheading of the Egyptian Muhammed Abdul Ala. People who buy the CD say they enjoy to see what happens to tugs that help the Americans (source The Washington Times), weard eyh? It shows how much Iraqis are fed up with their "liberators", but who cares to you all Iraqis are terrorists anyway.
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09/07/2004 11:21 Comments ||
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*strums fingers* Still waiting on your 90% figure, Murat...
A pre-mature exit, with all the potential for disaster that implies (as exemplified by Tater's aborted attempts), plays into the hands of the Turks, allowing them an excuse to crush the Kurds and sieze the saucy parts of North Iraq. (To use a Putin-ism..)
A side diversion: How exactly did Saddam attain "legitimacy" without a REAL election, and how come that methodology supposedly would NEVER apply to any post 2003 Iraqui government?
#32
Murat - thanks for sharing what we are up against, we have trouble grasping just how deranged you and your death cult really are.
Do you think that scares us? Think again. It just makes us less sad that we are going to have to eventually kill the likes of you.
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09/07/2004 12:26 Comments ||
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...CD that shows the beheading of the Egyptian Muhammed Abdul Ala. People who buy the CD say they enjoy to see what happens to tugs that help the Americans (source The Washington Times), weard eyh?
People who enjoy watching a person's head being sawed off sound more like sadists than avengers to me. The method they like reveals everything about them. Iraqis who buy this tape share a lot in common with other people who enjoy watching torture, video or live-Americans, Iraqis, or anyone else. Apparently some people have a lot of progress to make on the evolutionary scale. Murat, do you belong at the bottom with them, the middle with most of the rest of the world, or the top with all those renowned saints of Turkey?
#34
If you folks want to see a site that has more Murat-isms check this one out:
http://abbaskadhim.blogspot.com/
The posters at this site say that the resistance is a nationalist movement. There is some good thrust/parry opportunity there if you want some fun.
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09/07/2004 12:52 Comments ||
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Chicago Mike,
If I recall correctly, Murat is a university student. But at any rate, he is fairly widely read for someone whose native language is not English. Certainly his language skills are strong enough to handle the English translation. For all I know, he can understand the original French (L'obsession anti-americaine: Son functionnement, ses causes, ses inconsequences), which I certainly cannot.
I have the library book in front of me (I lent my own copy to my parents -- while Mama can handle the French, Daddy can't -- along with Michael Moore is a big fat stupid white man), so I can tell you with confidence that the Dewey call number is 303.48rev
#36
Nice try MuRat...let's get back to what the article is really about...American/Coalition forces kicking more islamist @ss! Another steaming pile of Sadrist corpses to stink up the place. Hey Murat, know what a dead islamist smells like? Smells like victory.
Posted by: Rex Mundi ||
09/07/2004 13:18 Comments ||
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Murat reminds me a little of Dean Martin's take on Detroit City....
Is your German as good as your English? If so BMW is a good place to work I hear.
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Jules mentioned sadism, and there's a lot of that in Iraq. I also think that the so-called resistance is mainly young punks who think fighting is cool. Has nothing to do with nationalism or patriotism. I see their faces in the videos. Same punks I see on the streets here in the USA. These guys are clueless morons, from the lower end of the Bell curve, who love the adrenalin. Same mentality that creates gangs and gang crime in this country.
Posted by: V is for Victory ||
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At least 14 people have been killed and 20 wounded in an Israeli air strike on an alleged night training exercise by Palestinian fighters in Gaza City. The Israeli army said its air force targeted a sports field used by the militant group Hamas. Witnesses reported hearing at least four loud explosions in the east of the city at around midnight (2100 GMT). Israel vowed to pursue Hamas following attacks in the city of Beersheba last week that killed 16 people. The missiles struck a sports ground named after assassinated Hamas leader Sheikh Yassin, in the city's eastern Shajaiyeh district, reputedly a stronghold of the militant group. The Israeli defence force said in a statement it had "targeted a training field during training of Hamas terrorists".
Hamas spokesman Mushir al-Masri denied it was used for training, calling it a summer camp for Palestinian youth, the Associated Press reported. Casualties of the strike were taken to local hospitals "It is an open war between the Zionists and us," he told Reuters news agency. Israel said it had attacked the field from the air, and local people reported hearing a helicopter overhead at the time of the blasts. The BBC's Alan Johnston in Gaza said the strike left appalling devastation, with body parts scattered across the football pitch. Rescue workers rushed to the area, using candles and torchlight to search for victims. Palestinian hospital sources said 14 people had died and, with a number critically injured, the death toll may rise. There were angry scenes at Gaza's main hospital as Hamas members, soaked in blood, brought in their wounded comrades. Israeli helicopters often strike at militants in Gaza City, but they normally only target one or two people at a time, says our correspondent. The attack ranks as one of the hardest blows that Israel has dealt Hamas since the Palestinian uprising began in late 2000, he adds. The movement has sworn that it will take revenge. [snippus] So good we had to have it twice..
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Have not these Hamas Islamic death cultists stated how mcuh they glory in looking forward to a jihadist death....well, they got their wish and we hope many more to follow.
The quicker jihad boys arrive in their terrorist 'paradise', the better off for the civilized world. (France & Germany not included)
Posted by: Mark Espinola ||
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Yes, Fred, please hurry up on those requests from ufo. Especially the one about opening this blog to free discussion. You're such an oppressor. BTW, ufo, would you like an upsize with that order?
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Hey, Fred. I haven't got my check yet from "The Entity". Could you see what's up with that? Thanks.
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Rescue workers rushed to the area, using candles and torchlight to search for victims. Palestinian hospital sources said 14 people had died and, with a number critically injured, the death toll may rise. There were angry scenes at Gazaâs main hospital as Hamas members, soaked in blood, brought in their wounded comrades.
Even the Beeb says it was "wounded comrades," not children, puppies, goldfish and ants! However, note that the AP quotes a Hamasian (as if he's a reliable source) saying it was a summer camp for Palestinian kids (even if it was, what were they training for?). AP...ptuh!
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from al-reuters:
All 14 dead were members of the military wing of Hamas, killed while being trained in guerrilla tactics at a soccer field. A Hamas official said they were training as "elite groups to terrorize the enemy."
even the palipropaganda machine can't spin that one.
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Zionists on this board gloat over deaths of their enemies while Americans fight and die in wars for Israel -- that's equivalent to gloating over lost American lives as it incites hatred against the United States. Fred Pruitt, in the interests of preserving American lives either shut down this board, purge the hate, or open it to free discussion, for American blood is spilled by your hands.
The guerrillas who took over a school in southern Russia last week argued heatedly with each other over whether to abandon the siege in the moments leading up to the firestorm of explosions and shooting that killed hundreds of children and adults, Russian officials said Monday.
Russian special services had a surveillance tape of the militants fighting about whether to stay or flee just before a bomb they had planted in the school gym went off, prompting Russian commandos to storm the building, a senior Kremlin official said. Investigators were exploring whether the bomb detonated by accident or as a result of the internal dispute.
As more details surfaced about the massacre at School No. 1 in the town of Beslan, a partial picture emerged of the guerrillas and the four men who led them into the school, where investigators say they took orders by phone from a Chechen commander, Shamil Basayev. The leaders, they said, included a bodyguard of Basayev's and a former police officer who turned against authorities and led a bloody attack in the neighboring republic of Ingushetia last June. All four leaders were killed in the battle at the school, authorities say.
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At this point I would issue internal passports and restrict movement.
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...many of them accidentally shot in the back by armed civilian vigilantes who rushed to the school to fight for their children.
The proles need some firearms saftey training. How not to shoot your government military operatives in the back would be a good lesson.
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[S]urviving hostages said in interviews that they saw no Arabs and not one was identified as a leader to outside negotiators.
Russian investigators are checking out reports ... that some of the attackers came from Jordan and Syria...
These could both be true. Northwestern Arabia, including Syria and Jordan, has a sizable Circassian (Northwest Caucasian*) minority. Back in the twenties, lots of them sought shelter in Arabia after the Bolshevik Revolution and the Civil War. According to some sources, the late, great Khattab was a Circassian of either Jordanian or Saudi birth.
*Specifically, the Adygeys, Cherkess, Kabardins, and Abkhazians all fall under the "Circassian" label.
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and who can forget the scene from Lawrence of Arabia, where Peter O'Toole claims to be Circassian to explain his blue eyes?
They would be arabic speakers, but different in appearance.
Inside the charred, bullet-pocked wreckage of Middle School No. 1, there lies evidence of the terror Russia faces: Two parts of the library's wooden floor had been pried up, evidently by the heavily armed attackers who seized the school last week and held more than 1,100 hostages for 52 hours. Beneath the boards, investigators now suspect, the attackers had hidden a cache of weapons or other equipment for weeks and perhaps months before their attack — possibly during a seemingly innocuous summer renovation, officials said... "They knew the geography of the school grounds like their own back yard," the chief spokesman for Russia's Federal Security Service, Sergei N. Ignatchenko, said in a telephone interview ...
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Either the equipment was stashed beforehand or the building was a Madrassa in the past.
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This mass murder of school children now sets new 'rules' that even young one's will be used around the globe as yet another evil method by Islamic Terrorist Inc., to inflict 'total fear into the hearts of the infidel'
Only total unity by the civilized world can defeat this global beast, and that includes France, Spain & Germany, no matter if they like it or not.
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Mark, agree with the unity of civilized world thing, but not so sure why you including France in it.
Okay, maybe they are somewhat civilized... but they may be a mighty hindrance. I thunk they better be skipped and play their own dice with god. Sink or swim.
#4
take note: This is one of many times that they have used construction or reconstrution projects to hide weapons.
AQ is happy to use sucessful tactics over and over until they are no longer successful.
Time to look at who worked on the renovations and at other possible targets that have recently had construction or renovations underway. Then, get the bomb-sniffing dogs out there.
I feel quite confident this won't be the last attack to use that method.
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This is one of many times that they have used construction or reconstrution projects to hide weapons.
Didn't they take out the previous Chechan president with a bomb built into a reviewing stand?
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A militant detained in last week's bloody school takeover in southern Russia, reported to be the only detained member of the 30-plus gang of terrorists, has testified that the orders to attack the school came from separatist leader Aslan Maskhadov and warlord Shamil Basayev, Interfax reports. The man's testimony was broadcast on the government's Rossiya TV channel. "We were gathered in the forest, by [a man] nicknamed Polkovnik [the Colonel], and they said: we must take over a school in Beslan. This assignment, they told us, Maskhadov and Basayev gave the assignment," the man was quoted by Interfax as saying. "When we asked "the Colonel": why do this, what's the purpose, he, "the Colonel", had said: because we need to unleash war throughout the Caucasus," the man said, according to Interfax.
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"...because we need to unleash war throughout the Caucasus,â
I think the aim has been achieved.
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Eight people suspected of involvement in the death of a Dutch soldier in Iraq last month were arrested by Dutch troops on Sunday. No one was injured in the operation, which took place at about 2pm local time in two locations in the Iraqi city Ar Rumaytah. The arrests were based on intelligence from the local population, the Royal Dutch Army said. The operation was conducted with the permission of the Iraqi and British authorities and with support from Dutch Apache combat helicopters and a British Chinook transport helicopter. The suspects were later handed over to Iraqi police in Basra. Dutch troops took the eight suspects by surprise and they had no chance to resist. The soldiers involved in the arrest operation did not need to use their weapons, a military statement said. Various weapons were seized in the raids.
Nice neat op. Local intel, good cooperation between coalition and Iraqi forces, no injuries, 8 hard boyz bagged, job well done. One for the textbooks.
The suspects are accused of involvement in an ambush on Dutch troops on 14 August near Ar Rumaytah, one of the Dutch bases in Iraq. Sergeant Jeroen Servers, 29, was killed and five other soldiers were seriously injured.
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