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Afghanistan
New Coalition Afghan Operation Under Way
In the first fighting of a new anti-terror operation, American and Afghan troops clashed with two small bands of enemy forces in a mountainous area of eastern Afghanistan, killing one and causing the others to retreat, the U.S. military said Tuesday.
Probably all the way to Quetta. The rest of them are probably on their way there now...
"It is the most dangerous terrain we have operated in since we've been in Afghanistan," said U.S. military spokesman Col. Rodney Davis. U.S. helicopter gunships were called in to help the coalition forces in one of the firefights. Coalition forces suffered no casualties during the engagements on Monday, Davis said. Operation Mountain Resolve was launched Friday in the eastern provinces of Nuristan and Kunar with an airdrop by the 10th Mountain Division, apparently targeting elements of a network of insurgents including al-Qaida, the Taliban and forces loyal to renegade warlord Gulbuddin Hekmatyar. Coalition troops are operating alongside Afghan militia.
Not the Afghan regulars. Wonder if they bussed in some Tadjiks and Uzbeks to keep them from fighting each other up north?
A specific goal is to destroy anti-coalition elements and disrupt their ability to operate or seek sanctuary in an area of eastern Afghanistan that is about 95 miles northeast of Kabul. "The coalition wants to establishing blocking positions to prevent the enemy from escaping, to destroy and recover identified anti-coalition forces' weapons and ammunition," Davis said. Coalition forces also aim to gather intelligence on insurgents, he said.
"Mahmoud! Did you bring your truncheon?"
"Yessir!"
"Go gather some intelligence!"
Mountain Resolve "will last as long as it takes to achieve operational objectives," Davis said. He refused to provide details about the manpower or the equipment being used, except to say that helicopter gunships and naval forces were available to support the ground forces.

In a separate battle, unrelated to the anti-terror operation, a coalition patrol clashed with six enemy soldiers in southern Afghanistan on Monday near Margah, Paktika province, killing one and capturing two. The three others retreated toward the Pakistan border, Davis said. No coalition forces were hurt.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 11/11/2003 09:44 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  what rewards does the Koran promise three "enemy soldiers" fleeing like terrified little girls?
Posted by: Frank G || 11/11/2003 11:38 Comments || Top||

#2  Frank,
Perhaps they get to be one of the 72 virgins......
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/11/2003 11:50 Comments || Top||

#3  Jeez.. sometimes I think we should relieve the 10th Mt. (PBUT) and send in the Rangers. (TX). This sounds not like a war but just plain old banditry. (Not that I have anything against banditry mind you).
Posted by: Shipman || 11/11/2003 12:57 Comments || Top||

#4  "If you're the police, where are your badges?"
"badges?"
Posted by: Frank G || 11/11/2003 13:18 Comments || Top||

#5  Looks like the grunts from the 10th are doing just fine. It's apparently going on way, WAY up in the mountains, about 13k feet. Wonder if the taliban is still convinced we won't go after them in small infantry units?

I just hope some of those NCOs reup and pass their knowledge and experience along at Benning.
Posted by: 80g in the headpan || 11/11/2003 18:12 Comments || Top||

#6  About the grunts from the 10th, one serie of articles, interesting, if a little dated ("operation Anaconda") : http://www.geocities.com/equipmentshop/realmountaindivision.htm
(doesn't seem to get the link thingie to work; my bad)
Posted by: Anonymous || 11/11/2003 19:13 Comments || Top||

#7  80g, 10th Mtn is up in Ft. Drum, NY. I think advanced infantry school along w/the 75th Ranger Regt are in Benning.
Posted by: Jarhead || 11/11/2003 19:28 Comments || Top||

#8  I mean when they finish their current enlistment and go to their next station. It just seems (to me at least) that too many of the Rangers and grunts from Somalia made the decision to pull the plug on the military, maybe out of bitterness? That experience would seem to be pretty valuable to pass on to the 'kids' that came after them. The senior NCOs I remember most were the guys who had been in Panama, S America, and even Vietnam (the really old guys); IOW the guys who had 'seen the elephant'. That's the kind of institutional knowledge the Army needs to retain, is my point.

And if they stay in they might pass along their knowledge and experience at the infantry school, oorah.
Posted by: 80g in the headpan || 11/11/2003 19:50 Comments || Top||

#9  "That's the kind of institutional knowledge the Army needs to retain, is my point. And if they stay in they might pass along their knowledge and experience at the infantry school, oorah."

-roger, I concur. Resident knowledge of combat is an extremely helpful thing to have amongst your senior enlisted leaders. Does wonders for the young lads and helping to develop the young officers (especially platoon commanders). Senior officers w/combat knowledge is also great. So long as they're not so far away from "the fight" to utilize it.
Posted by: Jarhead || 11/11/2003 21:05 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Al-Qaida Targeting Children, Saudi Family Doesn't Pass The Laugh Test
By Bruce Kennedy, Jihad Unspun
Bruce Kennedy? That's a good Muslim name...
To think that the US, and the Saudi royal family for that matter, would believe that Muslims would actually buy their spin that Al-Qaida would target an affluent, residential neighborhood in Riyadh, full of children while parents where participating in festivities during the holy month of Ramadhan is beyond comprehension. This latest “Al-Qaida” accusation comes at a time when George W Bush is failing miserably in the reelection poles [sic] and his only hope is to please his Israeli masters and as the Saudi royals are desperate to maintain their dwindling oil contracts and likewise dwindling relationship with America which their fragile economy depends on.
Oh. Well. That explains it. Couldn't have happened...
"The mentality of Mujahideen and the literature of the Al-Qaida and related parties is very clear. There is no way they would attack Muslims unless they are collateral damage" the London-based Movement for Islamic Reform in Arabia (Mira) spokesman Saad al-Faaqih said.
"Lies! All lies! A base calumny!"
The very nature of the target would never be considered by a Mujahideen group due to high risk of collateral damage and there isn’t a Muslim anywhere who will buy the headlines that are running rampant in western press.
Well, maybe a few in Soddy Arabia...
For some of us who are close to the daily news we saw the whole thing coming. First there were the so-called international alerts sounded by the US of course, just a few days prior to the bombing that then came coincidentally just one day after the United States closed its missions in the Kingdom for security review. Out to lunch I guess. This fuels the fear and gets the populous [sic] ready for the impending “incident” and has been a repetitive maneuver.
Just like all the previous false alarms did...
CNN broke the story and claimed 100 were killed or injured “mostly children” and then flashed pictures of hurt children under the headline “Al-Qaeda” just to add to the effect. Rarely does CNN show graphic shots (and never of US casualties) unless of course it adds to the drama. As the news report came in, the “facts” where changing moment by moment. Of the final toll, 11 dead and over 122 wounded (many children), almost all were Arabs, including four Egyptians and four Lebanese who were among those killed. The Saudi Interior ministry listed just four Americans and six Canadians among the wounded, and all of those were of Arab descent. The complex housed Lebanese, Syrians and Palestinians. Hmm.
See? No way Qaeda could have done it...
The fact remains that this flurry of recent attacks indicates that someone is intent on destabilizing Saudi Arabia so the question is who has the most to benefit and the capability of perpetrating this kind of cold-blooded act? Well that is all too easy to answer. As we all know, the Iraq war was actually about oil, but not oil destined for the United States. Israel instigated the conflict in an attempt to gain access to Iraqi oil through the pipeline which runs from Iraq into Jordan and at one time continued on to Haifa and it is chomping at the bit for Saudi spoils too.
Well, by golly! He's right! It musta been them Jews! I'll bet they put on turbans and snuck into the country and just banged away!
And of course, Israel has a past and current history of murdering Palestinian children which they consider expendable so this is surely no concern when considering its overall gains. Israel has its sights set not just on Palestine but its other Arab neighbors also. Could it be that Saudi Arabia is next?
Yep. The IDF is probably headed for downtown Riyadh right this minute!
Sunday's headlines reading “Al-Qaida Losses Support In The Arab World” is hog wash and nothing more than another attempt to “divide and conquer”. The Arab world has long known the antics of the US and Israel and the Muslims didn’t even bother to read them. They were to busy making Ramadan supplications to Allah.
He's got a point about the Muslims not even bothering to read the news...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 11/11/2003 15:20 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "The mentality of Mujahideen and the literature of the Al-Qaida and related parties is very clear. There is no way they would attack Muslims unless they are collateral damage"

"Of course, we view collateral damage differently than those kafir Americans!"
Posted by: Steve White || 11/11/2003 15:29 Comments || Top||

#2  FYI - Al-Qaida, via its mouthpiece Al-Jitzz does claim responsibility for this act. And since when did Al-Qaida balk at murdering women and children?
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/11/2003 15:33 Comments || Top||

#3  Bruce Kennedy...

Another damn Potato(e) Bomber?
Posted by: Shipman || 11/11/2003 15:35 Comments || Top||

#4  Hey, I agree with the author. Islam is the Religion of Peace and the folks from Al-Qaida would never go around blowing people up. Unless of course, the victims were Joos, Crusaders, infidels, westerners, the wrong flavor of Muslim, or simply "collateral damage".

I'm starting to wonder if "Religion of Peace" is actually "Religion of Pieces". It's easy for mistakes like this to arise when a written language lacks vowels. Rather like the confusion between "white raisins" and "virgins".
Posted by: SteveS || 11/11/2003 15:44 Comments || Top||

#5  We should have learned not to trust the Reelection Poles after they made Chairman Mao Emperor of Austria-New Zealand in the disastrous Crimean War of Independence.
Posted by: Doomed To Repeat || 11/11/2003 15:58 Comments || Top||

#6  If the Muslims are not reading the news, why is "Bruce" bothering to refute this? It must be just for Rantburg.
Posted by: Spot || 11/11/2003 16:16 Comments || Top||

#7  Hey! My late step-sister was married to a Bruce Kennedy. And he lives in ZIONsville, Indiana. Hmmmmm. Maybe he knows what them JOOOOOOOOs are up to after all. (black helicopters with teeny weeny Stars of David are flying hither and yon).
Posted by: remote man || 11/11/2003 16:19 Comments || Top||

#8  And my grandmother's maiden name was Kennedy. It's all coming together now.
Posted by: Matt || 11/11/2003 16:24 Comments || Top||

#9  Funny. Recently, in one of the messages from one of my ML (the one that quotes... DEBKA. Hum), there was speculations on the new "psychological war" about to be engaged by fundies, both in Iraq (to separate the pop. from the US through insecurity, and to make GWB reelection difficult through steady stream of casualties), and in the muslim world (by spreading conspiracy theories about attacks being perpretated by US intelligence).
Seems the guy in the message was right! I'm so proud of him!
Btw, more serious, the worrying thing is that particular "psychological warfare" is quite underway here: Irak is totally out of control, USA are begging fot help (sunni triangle = whole Iraq, daily summaries of total US casualties, "France was right" congressional paper cited, quotes of Jessica Lynch saying she was used for propaganda & "startling revelation" of her not having fired one shot - plus "she was well-treated, there was even a nurse who sang for her"... no mention of the possible rape), whitewashing of the Saddam regime (absolutely not showing of the torture tapes, interviews of "ordinary iraqi" or "schoolboys missing Saddam"... in Tikrit!,...). Spin is so aggressive, my head hurts.
Also, a definite and not recent tendancy to exonerate islamists of their crimes; that was done especially regarding Algeria (by the "liberal" TV network specializing in antiamericanism), or more insidiously by inverting values (french jews are accused of colluding with the far right against poor muslims, "anti-antiamericanists" are deemed supporters of GWB... all this while muslim antisemitism diguized or not as antisionism is supported by theses same antidiscrimination groups).
IMHO, in Europa (?) and at least in France, there is a definite collusion between islamofascists & antiglobos/leftists, if not in goals, at leats in methods.
Posted by: Anonymous || 11/11/2003 16:50 Comments || Top||

#10  About the "holy" month of Ramadan: don't make the mistake Ramadan and Christmas ("Peace on Earth for the men of good will"). For Al Quaida and their ilk it is the better month for Jihad: just take a look at Algeria where since the start of civil war, year after year, Ramadan has been a month of terror with an increase both in the number of attacks and the sadism of the murders.
Posted by: JFM || 11/11/2003 16:53 Comments || Top||

#11  Stolen from VoxPopuli, regarding Islam the religion of Piece (as in pieces and parts of babies, women and chidren):

"The second Caliph to succeed Muhammad, Umar ibn al-Khattab, was assassinated, as was the third Caliph, Uthman ibn Affan, as was the fourth Caliph, Ali ibn Abi Talib.

This history of violence was not inconsequential. The fifth Caliph and founder of the Ummayad dynasty, Muawiyyah, managed to survive long enough to pass the holy mantle of leadership to his son Yazid, who, when faced with a challenge to his rule by Muhammed's grandson, Husain, did not hesitate to massacre Husain and all his followers, including Husain's infant son.

The murders of Ali and Husain were the first great grievances of the Shiah i-Ali, better known to us in the West as the Shiite Muslims. And many centuries of similar "pacifism" followed, hence the Abbasid, Fatimid, Seljuk, Safavid, Moghul and Ottoman Empires.


I think it's also worth pointing out that the first two Abbasid Caliphs, Abul-'Abbaas 'Abdullah bin Muhammad al-Saffaah (750 AD) and Abu Ja'far 'Abdullah bin Muhammad al-Mansoor (754) bore surnames "the bloodshedder" and "the victorious". Strange titles for the leaders of such a famously peaceful religion."
Posted by: somewherenorth || 11/11/2003 17:27 Comments || Top||


Contradictions Concerning Bombings In Riyadh Serve Kingdom Goals
From Jihad Unspun. They've been pretty boring lately, but this one's back in their old style...
By Dr. Abu Ziyaad (UK)
The deadly bomb attacks that took place in the surrounds of the diplomatic quarters (Al-Mujammah district) in Riyadh and the subsequent “media spin” (lie) emanating from the Saudi authority regards Muslim women and children being the target of operations whilst the men-folk were away observing their Ramadan rites during the night (Taraawih prayers) represents the latest battle between the Saudi Arabian monarchy and its armed opponents in a deadly war to eliminate the other.
"Y'see, it's all lies..."
Just a year ago, the Riyadh government was still insisting — on the record — there was no al-Qaida presence in the country. The truth is, off course, quite different, as we have seen. Dozens of plots have been allegedly foiled and scores of suspected members of the underground opposition have been rounded up over the past months. The attacks on Saturday night, was the third such attack in the past 6 months.
Thought this was the second? Or is he counting the Mecca shootout the other day?
The reports that emanated from the press agencies (from eyewitness sources), Saudi authorities and the U.S. State Department, in the early hours after the Riyadh bombings carried multiple contradictions.
Ahah! contradictions! Infallible indications of the existence of a deep-laid plot™, an insidious conspiracy™, no less...
  • The First Contradiction:
    The State Department said Saturday that three residential compounds housing Westerners in the Saudi capital were hit by explosions and gunfire. "We have initial reports that there were explosions and gunfire at three compounds in Riyadh that house Westerners," State Department spokeswoman Amanda Batt said. We can see from this statement, that all the compounds attacked according to the U.S. intelligence sources contained westerners and were western compounds. This statement was subsequently corrected, and modified later on by the U.S. State Department, no doubt after consultation with the CIA. It seems surprising that the U.S. closed their embassy a day before the Riyadh attacks based on high level intelligence, but that same quality intelligence falsely related information to them about what targets had actually been hit!

    Then Early Sunday morning, A SAUDI official, denied U.S. claims and said that only one residential compound in Riyadh was bombed Saturday night. "There may have been two or three blasts in the al-Muhaya compound, but there were no explosions in three (different) compounds," the official said. So clear contradiction here between early U.S. reports which declared Western compounds to have been attacked and subsequent Saudi reports declaring that no-Western compounds had been attacked.
    And everyone knows that initial reports, when the smoke and confusion are at their greatest, are the most reliable. Just think of the 9-11 attacks, when there were actually 26,000 killed, and not only were there four — make that five, possibly six — planes full of murderers, but there was also a car bomb outside the State Department.
  • The Second Contradiction:
    Al-Arabiya Satellite (partly Saudi owned) reported, again, soon after the attacks that the director of the al-Muhaya compound, Hanady al-Ghandakli said: that she heard one large explosion, no sound of any gunfire, and definitely no attackers breaking into the compound. Whereas, the Saudi version of events goes like this: “Just before the midnight blasts, an unknown number of attackers broke into the upscale compound”, a Saudi official said, “and gunfire was heard. It was unclear if three individual bombs had detonated or whether it was one that set off multiple explosions”. This contradiction begs the question who is telling the truth? You might expect that the director of the compound (Hanadi al-Ghandakli) to have a better idea of events on the ground than an unknown Saudi official.
    That's assuming he was there, of course, and if he was close enough to hear the gunfire...
  • The Third Contradiction:
    The Saudi authority described the explosions taking place in the Muhaya compound. They said that the attackers exchanged fire with the security guards and there were apparently three explosions. Other eye witness reports (from press agencies) suggested a firefight taking place lasting over 1.5 hours between the Mujahideen and the al-Muhaya compound security guards. It begs the question “what kind of firefight was this”? How can nominal security guards posted at the Muhaya compound exchange gunfire for 1.5 hours with the Mujahideen in the nearby streets? This statement by the Saudi authority of a firefight and subsequent reports from eyewitnesses can only indicate one thing, that such a firefight must have taken place around high level security buildings or military barracks, possibly near the foreign embassies within the diplomatic quarter. We know that almost all the foreign embassies in Riyadh — including the U.S. Embassy — and most diplomats' homes are inside the diplomatic quarter, an isolated neighborhood whose entrances are highly guarded. One eyewitness report on CNN quoted an unnamed Western diplomat saying he received a call from a friend who reported seeing smoke rising from a building on the other side of the diplomatic quarter near an area where the palaces of the royal family's senior princes are located. There was no further information on the report.
    "Yep. Me'n Myrtle, we heard the gunfire from al-Muhaya, so we decided we'd go out back and fire up the barbeque. We know some of those security guards would be hungry..."
All this leads one to the conclusion that the Mujahideen did attack a number of Western compounds in the diplomatic quarters, but that the subsequent street fighting and explosions that ensued affected nearby al-Muhaya compound. The Muslims who were shown on television to have been hurt or killed were as a result of being caught in the subsequent explosions and not the target of the Mujahideen themselves.
So it must have been the Good Guys who bumped them off, probably the Mossad...
Allah only knows how heavy the casualties were in the western compounds that were actually targeted. Clandestine reports indicate that between 70 to 80 U.S. nationals were killed in the western compounds, along with their families.
"They got me, Myrtle! I'm a goner!"
It is clear the Saudi authority lied about what actually happened (just like they lied about the sighting of the Moon for this years Ramadan festivities). They spun the news story so that it looked as if most of the casualties were Arab Muslims (women and children), hoping to create an adverse reaction across the region for its internal opposition, in the same way the May bombings were spun in such a way that led to some increased support for the ailing Saudi Regime. This support was then manipulated by the authorities to great affect, leading to arrests, detentions and killings of many opposition groups and members within the Kingdom.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 11/11/2003 15:08 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  like they lied about the sighting of the Moon for this years Ramadan festivities

Uh, yeah. They lied about the FRICKIN' MOON! You see, the moon wasn't there on October 27th. I know, because that's my birthday, and for my birthday I took the moon somewhere else.

No, I won't tell how, or where. Or why, for that matter. Personal business.

Posted by: Robert Crawford || 11/11/2003 15:32 Comments || Top||

#2  Big mystery man! I saw you and the moon at Arby's. Don't deny it!
Posted by: Fred || 11/11/2003 15:43 Comments || Top||

#3  " Man, the moon wasn't there! It was over at Jupiter that night hanging out with friends. "
Posted by: Charles || 11/11/2003 16:27 Comments || Top||

#4  I saw the moon out by Pluto with some cute astroids and a comet or two... Me and Herbert Hoover were crusing out that way looking for chicks... man that guy has some serious drugs.
Posted by: Elvis Presley || 11/11/2003 17:36 Comments || Top||

#5  Sorry guys....the moon was out shining on Uranus that night...didnt you feel it?
Posted by: Hog Heaven || 11/11/2003 18:21 Comments || Top||

#6  Heavens! Elvis! You know HH? Cool. How much for an 8x11 of Hoover? Keep it tasty please.

BTW: I'm still in the market for tasteful BWs of chainsaw accidents.

Posted by: Shipman || 11/11/2003 18:39 Comments || Top||

#7  "BTW: I'm still in the market for tasteful BWs of chainsaw accidents."

WTF??? All mine are in color...damn
Posted by: Frank G || 11/11/2003 18:48 Comments || Top||

#8  Bring the right people, and I'll ensure they have a 'chainsaw accident'. You can photograph it at your leisure. I'll have to run out real quick and buy a chainsaw - I usually rely on axehandles and pitchforks...
Posted by: Old Patriot || 11/11/2003 20:39 Comments || Top||


Islamist fighters evade crackdown
Oh, I am so surprised... I think I am, anyway. Something seems to be wrong with this surprise meter...
Suspected al-Qaida fighters have shown that even a draconian crackdown by Saudi Arabia's rulers cannot stop them striking with deadly effect.
"Blow up civilians and kiddies, then away like the wind!"
Sunday's attack, which killed 17 people in a compound within earshot of Saudi royal palaces, came despite a desultory tough six-month government campaign against Islamist fighters, triggered by triple blasts in the capital in May.
Actually, I think the Soddies were trying to reach an accomodation with AQ behind the scenes, since the shootouts dropped off in numbers and number of dead for the past month. In true Islamic fashion, the Bad Guys used the semi-truce to move into position for a new strike.
The fighters succeeded despite several warnings from Western countries that they were poised to strike. Analysts say the latest attack drives home the gravity of the threat facing Saudi Arabia's rulers, who are grappling with the pressures of unemployment, a rapidly-growing population, a tide of religious and continued dependence on foreign workers.
But that's okay. Just worry about whether Dick and Jane need separate schoolbooks...
"(The attack) is embarrassing to the Saudi authorities. They were supposed to be in control," said Magnus Ranstorp, a political analyst at St Andrews University in Scotland.
That guy's name sounds like it should be something spelled backward...
"This is very serious for the Saudis. For the Saudis this is an existential threat," he said.
And not in the Albert Camus sense, either...
The Islamist fighters had until recently a strong bedrock of support in the kingdom, observers say.
"Recently" including this morning...
But after the May bombings many Saudis began questioning the motives of al-Qaida leader Usama bin Ladin — who has denounced the Saudi government as an agent of the West. As the cradle of Islam, the kingdom is a natural focus for Islamic fighters confronting Western powers in the Middle East, including US occupation forces in neighbouring Iraq. "From a symbolic point of view, it's much more valuable for al-Qaida to create some kind of destabilisation or change in Saudi Arabia than to blow a bomb up in Sydney," said Sebestyen Gorka, fellow of the Terrorism Research Center in Virginia. Geography is also on the side of the Islamists. Saudi Arabia's vast deserts offer a bolthole for fugitive fighters, while the rugged 1460 km border with Yemen and the long Red Sea coast have for years been easy entrance points for armed groups and arms' smugglers.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 11/11/2003 14:50 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  while the rugged 1460 km border with Yemen and the long Red Sea coast have for years been easy entrance points for armed groups and arms' smugglers.

And don't forget the border with Iraq, which offers the US military an easy and open path.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 11/11/2003 15:07 Comments || Top||

#2  This is no way to run a police state!
Posted by: BH || 11/11/2003 15:15 Comments || Top||

#3  This is very serious for the Saudis. For the Saudis this is an existential threat," he said.
And not in the Albert Camus sense, either...


LOL (whimper) Only at Rantburg.

Posted by: Shipman || 11/11/2003 15:38 Comments || Top||

#4  Apparently the wahhabists..., ummm, saudis..., ummm, 'terrorists' believed that the compound was actually full of Americans and other westerners. At least, that's the story coming out of Guantanamo.

Maybe one of the cells didn't get the email that the place was now full of peace-loving contributors and sympathizers? This must be incredibly embarrasing to the AQNC.
Posted by: Anonymous || 11/11/2003 15:50 Comments || Top||


Riyadh arrests
A diplomatic source close to the Saudi investigation said several suspects were arrested in the capital Riyadh and its outskirts. "A group of suspects in the bombing was detained. The campaign to pursue the culprits started immediately after the bombing. Some were also detained and released after interrogation," the source said. The campaign to hunt down those responsible is continuing."
Any holy men picked up? How many al-Ghamdis?
Usama bin Ladin's al-Qaida was from the beginning suspected to be behind the bombing in a housing complex, home to mostly Arab expatriates, which killed 18 people and left 120 wounded.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 11/11/2003 14:42 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  More cordwood for the next prison fire...
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/11/2003 14:46 Comments || Top||


Al-Qaida threatens more attacks
The armed group [al-Qaeda] has claimed responsibility for the bombing that killed 18 people in Riyadh, warning the next targets will be in the Gulf, the US and Iraq. Al-Qaida's claim comes shortly after several people were detained in Saudi Arabia on Tuesday for suspected involvement in the blast.
I certainly hope the Soddy cops are taking turns beating them. They do a good enough job on alk runners, so they should out-do themselves with real Bad Guys...
According to a Saudi weekly published in London, al-Majalla, "al-Qaida has claimed responsibility for the bomb attacks on al-Muhaya in Riyadh this past Saturday. It said in an e-mail message received by one of our correspondents in Dubai that the next strikes will be in the Gulf, America and Iraq". The message was sent by an al-Qaida member, Abu Muhammad al-Ablaj, who is in regular contact with the publication. Al-Ablaj warned those "who work and live with Americans", adding that "their killing was permitted" according to religious edicts.
"We just had them printed up, in fact..."
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 11/11/2003 14:40 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Osama & friends started al-Qaida's war against the US because American military forces were based in Saudi Arabia and were defiling the Islamic holy places.The US has withdrawn her forces from Saudi Arabia,and now al-Qaida starts bombing the Saudis.Hmmmmmm....new al-Qaida slogan-
"It's the power,stupid!"
Posted by: Stephen || 11/11/2003 18:25 Comments || Top||

#2  Of late when I read of these threats from AQ I'm inclined to yawn and shrug it off. However, next week President Bush is scheduled to meet with Mr. Blair in London. My gut tells me something might be up. I won't be surprised to read about an attempt on the president's life. Just a gut feeling, nothing more. Do take care Mr. President.
Posted by: Mark || 11/11/2003 20:12 Comments || Top||

#3  I almost feel sorry for the next dumb bastard that pulls out a boxcutter on a commercial airline. Almost. Maybe when they remove it from his rectum I'll feel sorry for them.

Naahhhh.
Posted by: anonymous || 11/11/2003 21:33 Comments || Top||

#4  Anonymous, you bring up something I've been doing but never wrote down in regards to any future attempted hi-jackings (here's my advice for the common air traveler - for what it's worth).

I know this may sound paranoid, but here it is:

I flew commercial to a buddies wedding 6-weeks after 9/11. I'm an anal retentive bastard when it comes to self-defense, home defense, mil training, etc., so I took the same approach to boarding our 'bird' home to Detroit w/my wife.

First - I always take an aisle seat, if some jerkoff starts something I wan't to be on the scene asap to help the pilot/crew if I can. Second - I always wear my uniform - if there's any assholes on the flight they know they'll have to deal w/me. Always puts another variable into their head - good, make them think about the infidel gyrene in 4b. Third, I always order, or bring on board a big-ass cup of damn hot coffee - great for to throw at them in order to incapacitate an opponent's eyes. Fourth, I always bring a gym bag as a carry on. In that bag I have a pair of tube socks. Also, attached to the bag I have two master locks. Once in the air, I unlock the masterlocks, relock them to each other & then drop them in the tube sock. I double knot the sock so the master's are both firmly planted in the foot part. Voila - homemade black-jack. Any douche bag pulls out a cutter, he gets a Folsom special across the bridge of the nose. Finally, I usually relax in my seat and just "passively" observe the other passengers - yes, racial profiling is allowed in the air by non-law enforcement authorites. Again, I know this may sound nuckin' futs but after 9/11 I think it's every American's duty to look out for his or her fellow American when traveling in the air.
Posted by: Jarhead || 11/11/2003 22:06 Comments || Top||

#5  Jarhead,
You might want to add to your little war-bag a pair of long, heavy shoelaces, the kind the kids wear in their tennies these days. Hell, buy the 'Care Bear' kind - who'd expect THAT to be a clandestine garrotte? Practice enough to be proficient - I'm sure the Marines have some kind of training facility you could use. You can also use them later to tie the idiotarian up after you subdue him/her.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 11/11/2003 22:15 Comments || Top||

#6  OP
You can also use them later to tie the idiotarian up after you subdue him/her.

Surely you must have meant "You can also use them to bind the flopping limbs of the newly deceased together, so that they don't flop around in the aisles while the stews are serving the champagne".

Posted by: Lone Ranger || 11/11/2003 22:45 Comments || Top||

#7  OP, I've thought about bringing this bit of piano wire I tore out of an old wurlitzer my grandma was gettin rid of. Your garrotte suggestion will be incorporated into my "bag of goodies" in some fashion. I have an extra long pair of black boot laces that might just do the trick.
Posted by: Jarhead || 11/11/2003 23:05 Comments || Top||


‘Kingdom Determined to Combat Terrorists’
The Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Fahd bin Abdulaziz chaired the cabinet’s session at Al-Yamamah Palace in Riyadh Monday. At the outset of the meeting, King Fahd expressed his deep sorrow and offered his condolences to the relatives of the victims who passed away in the blast which targeted children, women and peaceful men in Al-Muhaya residential compound, west of Riyadh City. The blast was perpetrated by a clique of criminal terrorists stripped of belief and humanity during the holy month of Ramadan. The clique aimed at wreaking havoc on the earth, killing people and damaging properties. The King stressed the determination of confronting terrorism, combating these criminal and sinful acts, apprehending the perpetrators and their supporters, striking with an iron fist those who try to destabilize the country, the peace and security of citizens and residents.
Let's see the iron fist employed as effectively as the religious cops beat up women showing an ankle...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 11/11/2003 14:21 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Extremists Decry Saudis' Reform Moves
A new child's textbook has sketches of boys and girls together — normal classroom fare in many countries but criticized by extremists here as a government scheme to teach children to rebel against the precepts of Islam. One Islamic Web site, in attacking the book, displayed a drawing of girls in a classroom and declared: "To show this to male students is a problem. ... A boy could remove it at every opportunity he has, kiss it and return it to his desk's drawer."
Hell, yeah. That's what I always used to do when I was in first grade. I always made it a point to kiss Jane below the waist, too...
As Saudi Arabia moves cautiously to reform its religious establishment, education and media, extremists are saying even these small steps go too far and will corrupt the birthplace of Islam — an argument like those Osama bin Laden uses to justify his demand for the Saudi regime's fall.
If little boys kiss pictures of little girls in the classroom, probably the place is already corrupted beyond repair...
The extremists argue that material like the textbook reflects an effort by Saudi Arabia's rulers encourage children to rebel against the strict segregation of the sexes enforced by the religious establishment. Resistance to change is not new — since King Abdul-Aziz Al Saud established the kingdom in the 1930s, the ruling family has had to contend with conservatives who objected to each step toward modernization. Even so, the government gradually introduced the telegram, radio, cars, girls' schools and satellite television.
In, I believe, 1963 they even officially abolished slavery...
But now, increasing violence — most recently Saturday's car bomb attack on a housing compound for expatriate Arabs that left 17 dead and scores wounded — has brought home to the Al Sauds that time is not on their side. The royal family faces four staggering problems:
  • It must liberalize its ailing economy, which means more, not less, contact with the West.

  • It must satisfy many Saudis' desire for greater freedom and more say in politics.

  • And it must tame the radical religious elements so the royal family's role as guardian of Islam's holy places will not be challenged.

  • Finally, it must battle violent extremists whom many people believe have been encouraged by the preachings of the religious establishment and its strict Wahhabi Muslim philosophy.
"The state is in trouble now," said Abdulaziz al-Gasim, a reformist lawyer. "It was the one that created Wahhabism and Wahhabism is what's strangling it now. It's strangling it because the state wants to fight al-Qaida."
"Dr. Frankenstein, call your office!"
In a sign of how serious the royal family is taking the need for change, a working advisory group made up of prominent decision-makers has been formed to push the reforms at a faster pace, according to a senior Saudi official. It is basing its priorities on secret studies the government conducted with the help of university professors, the official added. At the same time — under pressure — the religious establishment is moving toward reform. It has put in place new restrictions on Islamic charities to ensure donations do not end up funding terror. And many senior clerics are speaking out against terrorism and extremism.
Though not in favor of people who're descended from monkeys and pigs...
Tawfeeq al-Sediry, deputy Islamic Affairs minister, told The Associated Press that most mosque preachers will be re-educated to ensure they spread a moderate message. "We noticed in the past few years some deviation from this (moderate) trend by some people influenced by some extremist schools of thought," said al-Sediry. "This is among the things that are being corrected."
"Some deviation"? Mount Vesuvius did some damage to Pompeii.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 11/11/2003 09:55 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "To show this to male students is a problem. ... A boy could remove it at every opportunity he has, kiss it and return it to his desk's drawer."

Those are some SERIOUSLY screwed up people.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 11/11/2003 10:00 Comments || Top||

#2  RC: I think our friend reveals a whooole lot about himself in that sentence *snicker*
Posted by: BH || 11/11/2003 10:25 Comments || Top||

#3  Would they then stone the drawing for corrupting the boy? How else can honor be maintained? After all, Islamic men can not be held responsible for their actions around such temptations as drawings of women, much less actual women themselves.
Posted by: Dar || 11/11/2003 10:39 Comments || Top||

#4  "The state is in trouble now," said Abdulaziz al-Gasim, a reformist lawyer. "It was the one that created Wahhabism and Wahhabism is what's strangling it now. It's strangling it because the state wants to fight al-Qaida."

Heh heh heh.

..extremists are saying even these small steps go too far and will corrupt the birthplace of Islam — an argument like those Osama bin Laden uses to justify his demand for the Saudi regime's fall.

These are no longer medieval times. If these types can't or won't change, then I'm all for hunting down and killing every last one of them. No capture, no trial, no imprisonment. A slug in the head is enough.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 11/11/2003 10:54 Comments || Top||

#5  Wahhabism is strangling Islam, and will lead to total marginalization. When the bombs start popping in Bohn, Berlin, and Paris the Euro-pussies will start throwing the cockroaches out like Denmark.
Posted by: somewherenorth || 11/11/2003 11:02 Comments || Top||

#6  Ah yes. Re-education for the mosque preachers. This has the smell of success. I give them 2 years at most.
Posted by: Spot || 11/11/2003 11:12 Comments || Top||

#7  As a self-identified "conservative", I object to that title being applied to these ignorant, scared little children with no ambition, no restraint, and no future. The Arab society should be ridiculed at every opportunity for containing these yahoos as part of their "mainstream" - talk about shame...
Posted by: Frank G || 11/11/2003 11:12 Comments || Top||

#8  Dar: they wouldn't stone the drawing because paper covers rock. They would have to use scissors. ;)
Posted by: BH || 11/11/2003 11:14 Comments || Top||

#9  ooooooohhhh nice one BH lol
Posted by: Frank G || 11/11/2003 11:33 Comments || Top||

#10  BH--Oh,duh! I always forget that. No wonder I can never get "shotgun"! :-)
Posted by: Dar || 11/11/2003 11:36 Comments || Top||

#11  When the bombs start popping in Bohn, Berlin, and Paris the Euro-pussies will start throwing the cockroaches out like Denmark.

I'd be more inclined to believe that a massive convulsion of appeasement would occur - officials in those countries will be falling all over themselves trying to ingratiate themselves to the imams in all the mosques. There's still hope, however; there's still time for these guys to grow spines and prove me wrong.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 11/11/2003 12:07 Comments || Top||

#12  Let the revolution roar! Hopefully the bloodcult will take out their former partners in genocide, the Saudi royal family, and then we can go in and slaughter the death cult without the insult of the house of saud benefiting in any way. Is that too much to ask for?
Posted by: ISLAM SUCKS || 11/11/2003 12:37 Comments || Top||

#13  That's what I always used to do when I was in first grade. I always made it a point to kiss Jane below the waist, too...

Run Spot! Run! Sally get thy gun.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/11/2003 13:00 Comments || Top||


Saudis Arrest Suspects in Riyadh Bombing
Saudi authorities are reported to have detained a number of people suspected of involvement in Saturday’s suicide bombing of a housing complex in Riyadh that killed at least 17 people.
How many? These Saudis are so slow at counting!
The Saudi king has promised to deal harshly with the Islamic militants thought to be responsible for the attacks. Diplomatic sources in Riyadh and the pan-Arab newspaper Al-Hayat say the suspects were arrested over the last two days. The suspects were detained on the basis of what Al-Hayat said was important information obtained by Saudi Arabia’s security apparatus. According to the newspaper, Saudi authorities were giving no other information about those detained, but the paper reported that police have determined that two people were in the explosives-packed car that blew up at the housing compound last Saturday. Saudi Arabia’s King Fahd has vowed to strike with what he called an iron fist against Muslim militants who commit such crimes. U.S. and Saudi officials say Saudi-born terrorist leader Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaida terror network are behind the suicide bombing, which tore through the al-Muhaya residential compound where mostly Arab expatriate workers lived.
Posted by: PayDay || 11/11/2003 7:45:53 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This is one of the few times I agree having a public beheading platform is advantageous.

OFF WITH THEIR HEADS! And every other body part.

Posted by: Anonymous || 11/11/2003 13:07 Comments || Top||

#2  ...using plastic knives -- or sporks, if you can find 'em...
Posted by: snellenr || 11/11/2003 16:15 Comments || Top||

#3  Sportks eh.... that puts ya in a time frame.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/11/2003 18:41 Comments || Top||

#4  At the Tallahassee School for the Underachieveing we crossed Switchblades and Pencils.

Came up with the Swip an artistic tool you can defend yourself with.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/11/2003 18:45 Comments || Top||


Britain
Britain Plans to Introduce Identity Cards
Hat tip to drudge - think the Europhiles will support US ID cards? Oh the dillemma!
The British government said Tuesday it wants to introduce compulsory identity cards to protect against illegal immigration, welfare fraud and terrorism — though implementation is years away.
heads up is all this is
Home Secretary David Blunkett said the government would introduce the scheme after building a national database of biometric information using fingerprints, iris scans and facial recognition technology. "An ID card scheme will help tackle the crime and serious issues facing the U.K., particularly illegal working, immigration abuse, ID fraud, terrorism and organized crime," Blunkett said. The Home Office said "using multiple identities is one of the most common practices of those involved in terrorist activity."
"i.e.: the Pakis"
But the issue of identity cards has split Prime Minister Tony Blair’s government, with some ministers reportedly claiming that they are too expensive and threaten civil liberties. Britain has not had compulsory identity cards for ordinary citizens since shortly after World War II. Such ID cards are mandatory in several Western European countries, including Belgium and Germany. Blair has endorsed the idea in principle, but his office last week said it would take years to resolve the many complex issues surrounding the plan.
years? why? It’s a matter of will, not technology
Britain is already working on upgrading passports to include chips containing biometric data, and the UK Passport Service will soon begin a six-month biometric pilot to test face, iris and fingerprint capture and recognition technology, the Home Office said. It said officials also planned to use biometric technology for driving licenses. The information would be used to compile a national database, the Home Office added.
Posted by: Frank G || 11/11/2003 1:17:18 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This is a new business opportunity for Pakistani forgers. Who said the Euros don't like capitalism?
Posted by: Steve White || 11/11/2003 15:36 Comments || Top||

#2  Has California offered British ID cards to illegal aliens yet?
Posted by: Doomed To Repeat || 11/11/2003 16:42 Comments || Top||


Europe
Steyn: Pacifist Europeans have short memories
Hat tip to Instapundit - EFL, Read it all, as they say
After September 11, I wondered rhetorically (in The Spectator) what are we prepared to die for, and got a convoluted e-mail back from a French professor explaining that the fact that Europeans weren’t prepared to die for anything was the best evidence of their superiority: they were building a post-historical utopia — a Europe it would not be necessary to die for. Or as Robert Kagan’s recent thesis puts it: these days Americans are from Mars, Europeans are from Venus.

Can’t see it working myself. A couple of months back, I found myself in the company of a recently retired Continental prime minister and mentioned what a chap in the Pentagon had said to me about how the Europeans really needed to invest in new technology or they’d no longer be able to share the same battlefield with the Americans. I thought I was making a boring, technocratic, Nato-expenditure sort of point, but he took it morally and visibly recoiled. "But why would we want to have such horrible weapons?" he said, aghast. "In Europe today, it is just inconceivable to possess such things."

You can’t help noticing that it’s the low-tech weapons that are really horrible. In Liberia, Sierra Leone, Rwanda and the Congo, millions get hacked to death by machetes. Even on the very borders of EUtopia, hundreds of thousands died in the Balkans in mostly non-state-of-the-art ways until the Americans intervened. According to the latest estimates, the mass graves in Iraq contain the remains of at least 300,000 people, but we’re still arguing about whether the war was "justified". The pacifism - or, more accurately, passivism - of Europe does not seem especially moral.

But even the British, according to Max Hastings in The Spectator, are "furious" with America. "British soldiers and diplomats anticipated almost every misfortune that has occurred," Sir Max assures us, and proceeds to recite a long list of things the shrewd Brits told their cocky Yank cousins: the Americans don’t have enough troops on the ground, and they’re the wrong kind of troops anyway, ill-suited to peacekeeping, lacking the cultural sensitivity of the wise old British, etc. If "British soldiers and diplomats" really said all this to the Americans, the answer would seem to be obvious — You don’t think there are enough troops? Send some more yourself. You think Americans are lousy at peacekeeping? Fine, we’ll do the dirty work, you guys can do all the community-liaison foot patrols. Usually on Veterans’ Day in the US, serving troops at local bases fan out to small towns in the area and participate in their parades. Not this year. There’s nobody around. By contrast, between April and August the strength of the British contingent in Iraq was reduced by 75 per cent. The UK is one of the few credible military powers left in the developed world, yet it can’t sustain a proportionate share of the burden of even a small war. And, in all his indestructible condescension, it never occurs to Sir Max to wonder how it must sound to American ears to be told you’re doing it all wrong by folks who can barely do it at all.

As to whether the Prince of Wales is bisexual, I’ve no idea. But I do know that, between the Guardian hyper-rationalists at home and the European Constitutionalists in Brussels, whatever supplants the House of Windsor is likely to push Britain further toward the curiously enervated condition of the modern Continental social democracy. The EU has done a grand job of trumpeting its weakness as strength, but the fact remains that there’s something hollow at the heart of European identity. You can’t be a great power without great power: Slobodan Milosevic called the EU’s bluff on that a decade ago.

When you say as much to Euro-grandees, they say, ah, but you wouldn’t understand, here on the Continent we have seen the horrors of war close up, the slaughter of the Somme casts long shadows. I’ll say. In the New Statesman last week, Philip Kerr managed to yoke All Quiet On The Western Front with Joan Baez and John Lennon, and unintentionally underlined just how obsolescent the Sixties folk-protest canon is. Where Have All The Flowers Gone? would have made a great song for the First World War, but not for Afghanistan or Iraq or anything we’re likely to fight in the future. In our time, mass slaughter occurs only in places where the West refuses to act - in the Sudan or North Korea - or acts only under the contemptible and corrupting rules of UN "peacekeeping", as at Srebrenica. In Afghanistan and Iraq and elsewhere, technological advantage changes the moral calculus: it makes war the least worst option, the moral choice. At the 11th hour of the 11th day, we should remember those who died in the Great War, but recognise that it could never be "the war to end all wars" and never should.
A dignified and somber Veterans’ Day to all!
Posted by: Frank G || 11/11/2003 10:59:04 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Living in Europe, I've come to appreciate the European viewpoint on this. You can't go but a few miles in any direction without a battleground, or a last stand, or a gravesight to the honored dead. It's like Virginia on 'roids.
A few hours away, there's a site where fragments of bones from dead Red Army soldiers pop up every spring. 9/11 was a good day in comparison for some of these countries.
What is amazing, though, and what Steyn has touched on in his piece, is that the Europeans have learned the wrong lesson. Now, no use of force is justifiable in any circumstance.
Top that off with the EU, the citadel of "no certain beliefs," well, I'm glad to have an American passport.
Posted by: Baltic Blog || 11/11/2003 11:59 Comments || Top||

#2  First off, as a dedicated civilian my thanks to all of you who have served (or are serving) so that my family and I can sleep in peace. That is a debt I can never repay.

As to this post, I think Max Hastings is a pretty good military historian but he's not known for accentuating the positive. His book on the Normandy campaign, Overlord, basically concludes that the Allies (British and American) sort of lucked out and that the Germans coulda shoulda woulda won. If you compare Overlord to D-Day by Stephen Ambrose you would think they were writing about two entirely different battles.
Posted by: Matt || 11/11/2003 12:05 Comments || Top||

#3  Living in Europe I have come to NOT appreciate the European viewpoint on this. I just have to think in Auschwitz or Treblinka and tell myself "This wouldn't have happenned if the French of the thirties had remembered that freedom is maintained when you are ready to die for it, that sometimes peace is better kept by firmness than by throwing the Czech sacrificial lamb to the wolves and that sometimes avoiding a small war now (eg expelling Germans from Rhenania in 1936) than a big one later. And that if you instead of crushing the monster when it is weak, you let it grow until you can no longer contain it then you are responsible for its crimes.
Posted by: JFM || 11/11/2003 13:18 Comments || Top||

#4  Baltic, if you think about it, most of America is also a graveyard. Revolutionary, Civil, Spanish, Mexican, Indian wars.

We're a 3000-mile wide graveyard.
Posted by: Anonymous || 11/11/2003 13:25 Comments || Top||

#5  I blogged three other November 11's. This one stands out as apropos:

November 11, 1944: the flooded Moselle, France
On the 31st of October the Group moved to an assembly area at Pierrepont in preparation for the crossing of the Moselle at Thionville by the 90th and the flanking of Metz by the 10th Armored. From the 8th to the l5th of November, the Group supported the 90th in establishing a bridgehead across the flooded Moselle and on the 15th crossed the Thionville bridge with Task Force CHAMBERLAIN of the 10th Armored. The Group supported the 10th, slashing through fanatical resistance until the last escape route out of the fortress city had been cut and the Division was relieved by the 90th lnfantry Division.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/11/2003 13:29 Comments || Top||

#6  Shoot, you left out the GOOD part

The UK is one of the few credible military powers left in the developed world, yet it can't sustain a proportionate share of the burden of even a small war. And, in all his indestructible condescension, it never occurs to Sir Max to wonder how it must sound to American ears to be told you're doing it all wrong by folks who can barely do it at all.


Priceless!
Posted by: Ptah || 11/11/2003 15:02 Comments || Top||

#7  He write good stories but jebus... few credible military powers left in the developed world, gotta watch out for Nigerian Mechanzied Corps.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/11/2003 15:44 Comments || Top||

#8  Shipman -- both China and North Korea are credible (if local) military powers, and are not part of the developed world.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 11/11/2003 16:25 Comments || Top||

#9  RC
Give ya points for the Norks...

But China? I thought they were a member of the gang of 8?
Posted by: Shipman || 11/11/2003 18:50 Comments || Top||

#10  "to secure peace is to prepare for war" - George Washington

Let's see, nothing worth fighting for huh? If that's indeed the sentiment of most of the Europeans - God help them. Maybe they've become so enamored w/quasi-socialism it doesn't matter who calls the shots as long as they can eek out an existence. Plug into the collective I guess. War is not the most pathetic of things, a man who has nothing in which he would fight for is.

OTOH - I smell at least five new states to be added to our union across the pond ;) (tongue firmly planted in cheek)
Posted by: Jarhead || 11/11/2003 21:14 Comments || Top||

#11  OTOH - I smell at least five new states to be added to our union across the pond ;) (tongue firmly planted in cheek)
Better be your own &^&(%$@# cheek! 8^). Seriously, there's the possibility of half of Scandinavia, the Baltic Republics, and much of Eastern Europe that by now would welcome any halfway decent alternative to the European Union. You might be able to add Spain, Portugal, and Italy to that list, as well. The Swiss have the option of telling the whole world to bugger off, if they choose, and have the manpower and equipment to get away with it.

No matter how the lefties try to wiggle out of it, there are always consequences to behavior. The consequences for their current idiotic behavior could well be their demise.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 11/11/2003 22:09 Comments || Top||

#12  OP - Spain, Portugal, & Scandinavia - the 51st through 55th new states? Fine by me. Hot women, wide array of scenery/climates, decent chow, and some good booze. LOL.
Posted by: Jarhead || 11/11/2003 23:33 Comments || Top||

#13  "A dignified and somber Veterans’ Day to all!"

It Is The Soldier
by author uncertain

It Is The Soldier not the reporter,
who has given US Freedom of the press

It Is The Soldier not the poet,
who has given US Freedom of speech

It Is The Soldier not the campus organizer,
who has given US the Freedom to demonstrate

It Is The Soldier not the lawyer,
who has given US the right to a fair trial

It is the soldier, who saluted the Flag,
who serves beneath the Flag
and whose coffin is draped by the Flag,
who allows the protester to burn the Flag

http://www.sid-ss.net/write/soldier.htm
Posted by: tipper. || 11/11/2003 23:49 Comments || Top||


Polish Holocaust Hero Gets Highest Order
Here’s a lady who looked evil in the eye and spit.
A Polish woman credited with saving about 2,500 children during the Holocaust was awarded Poland’s highest order Monday. Irena Sendler, 93, ``risked her own life to rescue the lives of other people during the most brutal of wars,’’ President Aleksander Kwasniewski said in giving her the White Eagle Order. ``Thanks to people like you we believe that good can triumph, that a fragile woman is capable of defeating the greatest tyrants,’’ Kwasniewski said at a ceremony in a home for the elderly where Sendler has lived since last year.

Sendler was head of the children’s section in the Polish underground movement Zegota, which worked to rescue Jews during World War II. Anyone caught helping Jews in Nazi-occupied Poland risked being executed along with family members. Posing as a nurse, Sendler visited the Warsaw Ghetto and persuaded parents that their children had better chances of survival outside its walls. She and 20 helpers smuggled children out of the ghetto in 1942 and 1943 and placed them with Polish families. She wrote children’s names on slips of paper and buried them in jars in a neighbor’s yard as a record to help locate the children’s parents after the war. The Nazis arrested her in 1943, but she refused to reveal the names despite severe beatings.

Sendler, dressed in black and in a wheelchair, dedicated the medal to the people who helped her ``in those tragic years and who are no longer with us.’’ ``Every Jewish child that I helped save is a justification for my life,’’ she said. Sendler is credited with saving 2,500 children in all. Michal Glowinski, 69, who was saved along with his mother in 1943, said at the ceremony that he was ``extremely happy’’ about Sendler’s award but ``sad that it came so late.’’ Sendler sent him to an orphanage run by Catholic nuns in eastern Poland and placed his mother Felicja as a housekeeper with a teacher’s family near Warsaw. After World War II, Sendler worked as a social welfare clerk and director of vocational schools, continuing to help some of the children she rescued. Sendler won a medal from Israel’s Yad Vashem Holocaust Memorial in the 1960s, and was recently given an award from the U.S.-based American Center of Polish Culture.
We need more people in the world like this.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/11/2003 12:10:30 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  A great lady. Thanks for bringing this story to light.
Posted by: Mark || 11/11/2003 6:40 Comments || Top||

#2  War heroes are not always fighters. Yes, a great lady.
Posted by: Anonymous || 11/11/2003 6:48 Comments || Top||

#3  Heroes aren't always the soldiers or generals fighting on the battlefield. Sometimes they're ordinary people who stand up and do the righht thing.

God bless you Irena Sendler.
Posted by: Charles || 11/11/2003 10:21 Comments || Top||

#4  Aye God bless her. The kind of person I want my sons to imitate, both for bravery and compassion.
Posted by: Ptah || 11/11/2003 15:08 Comments || Top||

#5  OT
Which do you teach first? I went with compassion first... but I may be wrong.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/11/2003 15:47 Comments || Top||

#6  Shipman:

Both, at once, in parallel, along with honesty and faith in God. All virtues have their proper place, and all contribute to character development.
Posted by: Mike || 11/11/2003 17:51 Comments || Top||

#7  Okay....
Compassion, honesty, faith.. in parallel..

I'll assume bravery will fall into place.

Sounds good to me.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/11/2003 18:54 Comments || Top||

#8  Shipman,
Bravery is the product of integrity, the unification of compassion, honesty, and faith.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 11/11/2003 19:15 Comments || Top||

#9  OP, I'd venture to say that faith is optional.
Posted by: Bulldog || 11/11/2003 19:25 Comments || Top||

#10  Bulldog, you have to have faith in something, yourself if nothing else. Otherwise, you're lost without a reference point. Kind of like living in pea-soup fog in the middle of a swamp.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 11/11/2003 20:42 Comments || Top||


Iraq
Explosions rock Baghdad; Politician killed in Sadr City
EFL - usual mortar activity - read at the link, more importantly, a politician was killed in a confrontation with US troops in Sadr City
At least 10 explosions were heard Tuesday night in Baghdad, and smoke was rising from within the coalition’s heavily secured Green Zone, which includes most of the Coalition Provisional Authority’s activities. A CNN security adviser at a Baghdad hotel saw two impacts in the zone and smoke rise from them.

U.S. military officials said Tuesday that U.S. soldiers shot to death the chairman of Sadr City’s governing council during a heated argument this week. Sadr City is a largely Shiite neighborhood in the Iraqi capital, formerly known as Saddam City. Officials said the quarrel got under way Monday when the chairman, Mohannad Ghazi al-Kaabi, tried to park his car near the District Advisory Council building in an area closed to traffic. When U.S. troops tried to stop him, military officials said, he became agitated, got out of his car and began arguing with a soldier guarding the offices. Al Kaabi wrestled the soldier to the ground and grabbed his gun, according to the officials. Another soldier shot al Kaabi in the upper thigh, they said. A medic administered first aid to al Kaabi and transported him to a military medical facility, where he was pronounced dead.
Blew his femoral artery, I guess...
The death is under investigation, military officials said. About 200 to 300 demonstrators walked to the Sadr City council afterward to protest the killing and began chanting the predictable anti-American slogans. Carrying Shiite banners mourning the death, demonstrators called for a thorough investigation. They demanded that American troops leave Sadr City and give security duties to Iraqi police.
Arguing with armed troops? Took himself a little too seriously? Moqtada message here?
Posted by: Frank G || 11/11/2003 2:27:39 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Al Kaabi wrestled the soldier to the ground and grabbed his gun"

Somebody give that boy a Darwin Award.
Posted by: BH || 11/11/2003 14:41 Comments || Top||

#2  BBC reported on this in a way that gave the impression that US soldiers blew him away as he tried to drive into the compound, which emcouraged an image of trigger-happy soldiers...

Biased bastards.
Posted by: Carl in N.H. || 11/11/2003 14:59 Comments || Top||

#3  Out of curiousity, is there a reason to aim for the upper thigh? I know there are major arteries there, are soldiers trained to aim there to incapacitate but not kill? Or, just happy circumstance?
Posted by: mjh || 11/11/2003 15:08 Comments || Top||

#4  Aim at the legs to disable. Aim for the chest to dispose.
Posted by: Fred || 11/11/2003 15:10 Comments || Top||

#5  Aim in between the legs and the chest to prevent heirs.
Posted by: Charles || 11/11/2003 16:22 Comments || Top||

#6  I don't know what these particular guys are taught. Unless they're SWAT Trained for incapacitation shots. I've never been trained that way, my training's always been aim center of mass, repeat if necessary, or, when in doubt -double tap your opponent's head. Maybe some of you guys on here w/USAF Security Police or HRT knowledge know something different.
Posted by: Jarhead || 11/11/2003 21:23 Comments || Top||

#7  I've never been trained that way...

JH, don't change -- we like ya just like ya are...
Posted by: snellenr || 11/11/2003 21:58 Comments || Top||

#8  Jarhead,
"Non-combattant" here - at least, that was the basic idea. Those of us with special training weren't supposed to 'risk being killed'. Stupidity cubed, but typical mass-land-warfare planning. I had the rare good fortune to have some friends that were Marines, and some others that were Army - including a few Rangers and SF. One SF MSgt told us, when we were discussing self-defense for our compound against terrorists, that standard procedure was to "start at center-of-mass and work up" if you wanted to kill, but shoot the knees or shoulders if you wanted prisoners to question. First priority, however, was ALWAYS staying alive. That meant taking prisoners was a third- or fourth-order priority.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 11/11/2003 22:37 Comments || Top||

#9  Snellenr - roger that brother. thanx.

OP - copy your last. thanx. Yeah, staying alive is the bottom line. Take prisoners if you can, kill if you must, but always keep you and your buddy alive.

We still teach "center of mass then work up" but that's usually for bayonet & knife training we call it "stitching up" or doing a "singer" (like the sewing machine.) First thrust goes to the solar plexus, follow-on thrusts work up to the adam's apple.
Posted by: Jarhead || 11/11/2003 23:19 Comments || Top||


Helpful al-Jazeera...
From the MEMRI news ticker...
AL-JAZEERA CORRESPONDENT SATTAR KARIN ADMITTED THAT HIS OFFICE IN THE MAHMOUDIYA, BABIL PROVINCE OF IRAQ HAS BEEN USED TO COORDINATE ATTACKS AGAINST COALITION FORCES. TWO SYRIAN NATIONALS WERE ALSO INVOLVED. (AL-SABAH, IRAQ, 11/9/03)
Thanks for your support.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 11/11/2003 14:17 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Can we finally end the charade about al'Jazeera being a "news" channel? They're an enemy propaganda outlet, and their "reporters" are enemy agents. Kick them out of Iraq and the US; when our officials are in foreign venues NEVER answer an al'Jazeera question.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 11/11/2003 14:40 Comments || Top||

#2  tap....tap...tap.... not a tremor...
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/11/2003 15:17 Comments || Top||

#3  Anyone trying to pass themselves off as an Al Jazeera 'journalist' should be treated like an enemy combatant, or better yet a spy, and dealt with accordingly.

And as long as the F16s are back up there dispensing policy in 2000lb increments, we might as well eliminate their capacity to run ops against us.
Posted by: Doomed To Repeat || 11/11/2003 16:15 Comments || Top||

#4  CentCom should immediately issue a statement thanking Mr. Karin for all of great intelligence he's been providing to the US.

"Ooops, was that supposed to be kept secret?"
Posted by: Mike || 11/11/2003 19:41 Comments || Top||

#5  I like Mike's suggestion.
Posted by: The Commissar || 11/11/2003 22:07 Comments || Top||


Bremer Expected to Meet Soon at White House
Iraq’s U.S. governor Paul Bremer has arrived in Washington and is expected to meet soon with top officials at the White House for what is likely to be a decision-making session, a U.S. official said on Tuesday. "When decisions need to be made, Bremer comes. Some decisions need to be made," the official told Reuters, saying he presumed the issues dealt with security and the political transition in Iraq. The official said there was no expectation Bremer would be leaving his post. But another U.S. official recently told Reuters there is growing friction between Bremer and Washington, particularly over Bremer’s resistance to accelerating the transfer of control from Americans to Iraqis. Bremer left Baghdad for Washington at short notice and canceled a meeting on Tuesday with visiting Polish Prime Minister Leszek Miller, the Polish delegation in Baghdad said.
Speculation: Bremer has received an instruction that he doesn’t agree with, or he read Old Patriot’s suggestion yesterday and likes the idea...
Posted by: snellenr || 11/11/2003 1:45:23 PM || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Here's Old Patriot's comment!
You go out one morning with 400 tanks and other armored vehicles. You surround Fallujah completely, with 6-7000 infantrymen backing up the tanks. You start a house-by-house search, making sure every human being and as many belongings as they can carry are taken out, marched beyond the perimeter, and made to kneel in the sand. Then you totally destroy their city. Bomb it into dust, and then blow away the dust. MAKE THEM WATCH. Then have one person walk out to them and tell them, "next time, we'll do it with you still there". You may still have problems, but they won't be from Fallujah.
Posted by: Old Patriot [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm] 2003-11-10 11:09:36 PM

Posted by: Yosemite Sam || 11/11/2003 14:01 Comments || Top||

#2  heh heh - I think the IGC may be getting a message as well. I've noticed the rise in ordnance dropped and firepower brought to bear on the rebels. Fallujah and Tikrit need cause/effect lessons.
Posted by: Frank G || 11/11/2003 14:45 Comments || Top||

#3  I think Old Patriot might be somewhat close. My read is that the US is sending in the Marines to replace some of the Army units there. The Marines will be more agressive. They will probably do what they did in Somalia, corden off a random block and search the buildings and make sure they are clean. The Islamofascist response will be either (a) go to ground, bury the weapons and wait as they did in Somalia or (b) Fight and hope for the Mogadishu scenerio.

Bremer needs to be prepared to provide political cover for either scenerio.
Posted by: Yank || 11/11/2003 15:20 Comments || Top||

#4  Just a thought, but who makes a more 'hidden in plain sight' courier than the senior U.S. man on the scene? What if you have to get something to D.C. that's so 'hot', so electrifying, that it can't be trusted to get there by diplo courier or dumped on an AF ferry flight to Pope? Hmmm, wmd proof, Saddam's head in a bowling bag, something like that.

Or maybe Bremer is getting stood tall for the 'slosions, who knows.
Posted by: Anonymous || 11/11/2003 15:42 Comments || Top||

#5  Based on Zayed posting at Healing Iraq today, I'm guessing that the IGC may be getting ready to feel some heat. Sounds like they are doing the standard third world elite thing called grab the money and screw governing. Bremer may have to do some house cleaning.

I don't think he would be coming home to review military strategy. He is going to be told what to do on that score. No negotiation accepted.
Posted by: remote man || 11/11/2003 15:58 Comments || Top||

#6  Old Pat's got the right idea. What he described is a modified version of "Hama Rules". In 1980-1981 Syria's Assad was having his patience taxed by...you guessed it....Islamic Fundamentalists. The trouble makers were based in the town of Hama. Assad ordered his army to surround Hama. They shelled the town for several days, leveled it, then bulldozed the rubble.Very effective. Assad had few troubles thereafter because if the fundamentalists wanted to play hard ball with Assad he was going to play the game using "Hama Rules".
Posted by: Mark || 11/11/2003 16:46 Comments || Top||

#7  I think you got it remote man. Time for the first house cleaning (Purge)

Posted by: Shipman || 11/11/2003 19:10 Comments || Top||

#8  yes the marines will kick some ass - I believe the marines did not loose one solder in the 3-4 months they were ther after MAJOR COMBAT OPERATIONS.
Posted by: Dan || 11/11/2003 19:14 Comments || Top||

#9  I think house to house searching may not be ideal.

I think the preferred way to handle this is invite the Shia and Kurd militias and paramilitaries in to "police" their Sunni brethern. Pull out all the US troops, let the ethnic militias (you know, the ones Saddam brutually oppressed for so long) perform counter-insurgency ops for, oh, say, 30 days, then pull them out and reinsert the US troops. Wanna bet the previously troublesome Sunnis will welcome the US troops as liberators/saviors?

I found this on strageypage (http://www.strategypage.com/fyeo/qndguide/default.asp?target=IRAQ.HTM) that hints we may be threatening something like this.

As for the Marines, I don't think they are going to be any more aggressive than the 82nd Airborne. Paratroopers are not generally known for their gentle people skills.
Posted by: Anonymous || 11/11/2003 20:59 Comments || Top||

#10  Anon... using the Shi'a like that runs a real risk of reenacting what happened in Sabra & Shatila (substituing the Shi'a for the Phalangists). If we use proxies, we're responsible for keeping them under control. I'm not so sure we could...
Posted by: snellenr || 11/11/2003 22:02 Comments || Top||

#11  O.P. has the right idea.

Then do the same to Tikrit.

Its time we took off the gloves.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/11/2003 22:23 Comments || Top||


KADEK to go out of business
The Kurdish rebel group known as the Congress for Freedom and Democracy in Kurdistan, or KADEK, said it was planning to form a new group that would likely be pan-Kurdish and would pursue Kurdish rights through negotiations. "KADEK is being dissolved in order to make way for a new, more democratic organizational structure that allows for broader participation," the group said in a statement. The group was originally called the Kurdistan Workers Party, or PKK, but changed its name last year and announced a shift in strategy saying it would peacefully campaign for Kurdish rights.
A present for you, Murat. You're welcome.
The turmoil in the Kurdish organization comes as the guerrillas face increasing pressure from Turkey and the United States, which both consider the guerrillas as terrorists. The group's main fighting force of some 5,000 is based in the mountains of northern Iraq and is expected to face serious pressure from U.S. and Turkish forces as Washington struggles to bring stability to Iraq. Some 37,000 people, mostly Kurds, died in nearly two decades of fighting between the autonomy-seeking PKK and Turkish troops. The PKK declared a cease-fire after Turkish forces captured the group's leader, Abdullah Ocalan, in 1999.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 11/11/2003 09:34 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Thanks Fred,

But what is the change, a terrorist group changing its name, as long as they keep around 5000 armed men nothing will change.

Imagine Al Qaeda changing her name into Al democracia!
Posted by: Murat || 11/11/2003 10:34 Comments || Top||

#2  "peacefully campaign for Kurdish rights", whats all this chatter about Kurdish rights?
Posted by: Lucky || 11/11/2003 12:34 Comments || Top||

#3  Dang Mr. Murat... a terrorist group changing its name you're right... PLO = PA
Posted by: Shipman || 11/11/2003 13:10 Comments || Top||

#4  They say they're going out of business as a terrorist organization and becoming a political party. I think that's a fine idea, even though Turkey can look forward to years of haggling with them.

If they go back in the terrorism business, then we kill them, Turkey from the north, us from the south. Political parties we can live with, terrorists — to include "armed militias" — we can't.
Posted by: Fred || 11/11/2003 13:54 Comments || Top||

#5  Come back in a Month, murat. If they're still armed, then you'll earn a "Hell, murat was right this time!", plus an e-mail to the President of the United States demanding that something be done about it, okay?
Posted by: Ptah || 11/11/2003 15:23 Comments || Top||


U.S. Holds 20 Suspected al-Qaida in Iraq
In Baghdad, the coalition military commander, Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, told reporters that the U.S. military had arrested about 20 people who may have been linked to al-Qaida but none had been confirmed as part of Osama bin Laden's terror network. "At one point, we had up to about 20 suspected al-Qaida members, but as we have continued to refine and interrogate, we have not been able to establish definitively that they were al-Qaida members," Sanchez said. Sanchez did not say where they were held, when they were detained or whether any of them have been released.
I suspect Bagram, within the past month, and no...
U.S. officials have said they suspect foreign volunteers, including some from al-Qaida, have slipped across the borders into Iraq to take part in a "holy war" against the U.S.-led occupation.
"Hmmm... This man is wearing a salwar kamiz and a turban, and he speaks Pashto. This is Iraq. I suspect he may be a foreign volunteer, possibly from al-Qaeda!"
"Holmes! Brilliant!"
However, a number of U.S. commanders have said they were uncertain about the numbers of foreign fighters and their role in the insurgency. Asked about foreign fighters, Sanchez said "hundreds" of foreigners cross the border area to carry out attacks here. Sanchez was asked how close U.S. forces had been to capturing Saddam Hussein, Sanchez replied only: "Not close enough." American commanders have speculated that they are facing attacks from Saddam supporters, religious extremists and foreign fighters. U.S. officials have said at least some of the attacks may have been orchestrated by Saddam's former deputy Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri, who may have forged an alliance with the Kurdish religious extremist group Ansar al-Islam.
Yeah, yeah. We know that. Only the Ansar they've formed their alliance with is more likely the al-Tawhid bunch that was hiding out in Jordan and Syria, rather than the bunch who was blown to pieces in Kurdistan.
Ansar al-Islam is believed to have ties to al-Qaida.
I'm believed to have ties to my mother, too...
It was unclear whether Sanchez was referring to Ansar fighters when he said the Americans were holding about 20 al-Qaida suspects. Sanchez also said that although attacks against his troops have increased, the insurgents know "that from a military point of view, they can't defeat us." He defended the use of aerial bombing in Tikrit and Fallujah over the past five days, saying it was necessary to defeat those who attack coalition forces.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 11/11/2003 09:31 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "...U.S. commanders have said they were uncertain about the numbers of foreign fighters..."

Well, lessee... there's the ones we don't have, the ones we do have, and the ones we'll admit to having...

"Sanchez did not say where they were held, when they were detained or whether any of them have been released."

I can say no more!
Posted by: Old Grouch || 11/11/2003 15:05 Comments || Top||

#2  "Hundreds" cross the border, but how many actually live to fight? We can't say how many we have, because that would give the enemy an idea of how many we've already killed (have to expect him to know how many survived). As for 'releasing' them, Iraq is not "catch and release" waters. The only release I'd be happy with would be from 40,000 feet somewhere over the Indian Ocean.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 11/11/2003 16:09 Comments || Top||


Two Army JAG Officials Among Iraq Victims
Two officials of the Army’s Judge Advocate General corps from the Pentagon were among six soldiers killed in the crash of a Black Hawk helicopter in Iraq on Friday, the Defense Department announced. All six soldiers aboard the helicopter were killed. They included two officials of the Army’s JAG corps, which provides judges and lawyers for the Army’s military courts. They were identified as Command Sgt. Maj. Cornell W. Gilmore I, 45, of Stafford, Va., and Chief Warrant Officer 5 Sharon T. Swartworth, 43, of Virginia. The helicopter’s four-member crew from the 101st Airborne Division also was killed: Capt. Benedict J. Smith, 29, of Monroe City, Mo.; Chief Warrant Officer 3 Kyran E. Kennedy, 43, of Boston; Staff Sgt. Paul M. Neff II, 30, of Fort Mill, S.C.; and Sgt. Scott C. Rose, 30, of Fayetteville, N.C.

The Washington Post quoted friends and relatives of Swartworth as saying the 26-year Army veteran was planning to retire shortly after her trip to Iraq. Her father said that Saturday, the day after the crash, would have been Swartworth’s 44th birthday. The Pentagon did not list a hometown for her, but the Post reported that Swartworth had recently moved her family to Hawaii from the Virginia suburbs of Washington. Her father, Bernard C. Mayo, told the Post his daughter felt lucky to survive the Sept. 11, 2001, attack on the Pentagon. Mayo said his daughter had moved out of an office that was destroyed by the hijacked airliner shortly before the attack.
God bless each of ’em.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/11/2003 12:07:43 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Iran
IAEA Says Iran produced plutonium
EFL JPost - what a difference a day makes?
A UN nuclear agency report said Iran produced small amounts of plutonium as part of covert nuclear activities. While finding "no evidence" that Tehran tried to make atomic arms, it said such efforts cannot be ruled out.

The significance of the plutonium extraction was unclear. The report by the International Atomic Energy Agency did not link it to weapons activity but it criticized Iran for not reporting its processing activities, listing it among dozens of cases where Tehran had covert programs in place.

"Neither the (processing) activities nor the separated plutonium had been previously reported to the agency," said the report, which was obtained by The Associated Press.

Plutonium can be used in nuclear weapons but it also has uses in peaceful programs to generate power — which is what Iran says is the sole purpose of its nuclear activities.

Meanwhile, a top Iranian official announced in Moscow that his country has suspended its enrichment of uranium and agreed to additional UN inspections of its nuclear facilities.

The 29-page report, prepared for a Nov. 20 meeting of the IAEA board of governors, praised Iran’s recent cooperation with the agency but also faulted the country for past concealment of its nuclear programs
A very small production of plutonium? Why would they do that and not produce more? BS meter pegging...need to re-zero it
Posted by: Frank G || 11/11/2003 7:28:32 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The report credited Iran for a change of heart since September, when the agency demanded it explain contradictions and ambiguities in its nuclear activities.

Holy Shit - I give up.

Traces of weapons-grade uranium have been found on enrichment centrifuges at two Iranian facilities, but Iranian officials say the imported equipment was contaminated abroad before Iran received it.

Nope - wasn't us. We found it that way.

Putin said "we are pleased to note that Iran has itself resolved to limit itself" on uranium enrichment, and he suggested it cleared the way for further Russian-Iranian nuclear cooperation.

No doubt.

Anybody besides me get this sinking feeling that the Russians are more dangerous than they used to be...
Posted by: Rawsnacks || 11/11/2003 20:02 Comments || Top||

#2  Look into the Russian mythos of the "trickster" and that is a bit chilling. What can you believe?
Posted by: cingold || 11/11/2003 20:58 Comments || Top||

#3  While finding "no evidence" that Tehran tried to make atomic arms, it said such efforts cannot be ruled out.

Yes, of course. That plutonium was processed for strictly PEACEFUL purposes. For use in children's toys and medicine for the aged. Sure.
Posted by: ayatollahofrocknrolla || 11/11/2003 21:03 Comments || Top||

#4  "Oh darn it, we've produced some plutonium! My bad."
Posted by: Matt || 11/11/2003 21:06 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon
US Senate overwhelmingly votes for sanctions on Syria
JPost Reg req’d - AP story
The Senate agreed to broad new economic and trade sanctions on Syria Tuesday, citing Syria’s long history of sheltering terrorists and its more recent failure to muzzle forces hostile to U.S. actions in Iraq.
Remember when we said: "Don’t make us come up there dammit", Assad?
The Senate measure, passed 89-4, mirrors legislation the House of Representatives passed last month by 398-4. The only difference, an amendment offered by Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Dick Lugar, with input from the Bush administration, gives the president greater authority to waive sanctions for national security reasons.

The White House, which in principle opposes moves by Congress to restrict diplomatic options in dealing with problematic relations, has gone from opposing the Syria bill to accepting it as inevitable.

"We cannot have relationships with Syria and close our eyes to the truth, and the truth is that they are in fact supporting terrorism in ways that are very very clear," said Sen. Barbara Boxer.
If it’s very very clear to my Senator Ms Boxer, one of the dimmest bulbs in the Senate, then it must be clear to all.....
A group of U.S. lawmakers traveling in the Middle East met Tuesday with Syrian President Bashar Assad and told him the sanctions were an expression of the frustration of Americans with countries that don’t cooperate in the war on terrorism, said the delegation leader, Rep. Jim Kolbe.

Assad told the lawmakers that Syria is doing more to secure its border with Iraq and "does promise to continue to work with us on that," Kolbe said.
The United States has long complained that Syria gives sanctuary to leaders of Hamas and Islamic Jihad, two Palestinian groups designated as terrorist organizations by the State Department.

The bill states that Syria must end its support for terrorism, terminate its 13-year military occupation of Lebanon, stop efforts to obtain or produce weapons of mass destruction and long-range ballistic missiles and stop terrorists and weapons from entering Iraq.

If it fails to meet those conditions, the president must ban sales of dual-use items - items that could have military applications. He must also impose at least two out of a list of six possible sanctions: including an export ban, prohibition of U.S. businesses operating in Syria, restrictions on Syrian diplomats in the United States, limits on Syrian airline flights in the United States, a reduction of diplomatic contacts or a freeze on Syrian assets.
sounds good to me - on General "Dickhead Response" Principle
The House-passed bill gives the president the power to waive the two sanctions for national security reasons. The Senate bill extends that waiver to include dual-use sales.

Sen Arlen Specter, a frequent visitor to Syria, said that while Syria hasn’t done enough in the war on terrorism, applying sanctions was complicated because the Damascus government has provided information on al-Qaida and taken other actions to help the United States since the Sept. 11 attacks.

"We ought to be mindful that there are opportunities to have frank discussions with Syrian officials which have led to some beneficial results and which ought to be pursued," he said.

Sen. Sam Brownback said he expected the House to approve the Senate bill and send it to the president for his signature. "I would urge the president to use these sanctions and I would urge us to use all the means at our disposal to tighten the noose around the leadership, the dictatorship in Damascus," he said.

William Burns, assistant secretary of State for Near Eastern affairs, said at Senate hearings last month that, while there were "some quite significant problems" in U.S. relations with Syria, there were signs of progress.

He cited better efforts to secure the border with Iraq, better cooperation in searching for Iraqi frozen assets and Syrian support for the U.S.-sponsored U.N. Security Council resolution on Iraq.

The State Department has since the 1970s designated Syria as a state sponsor of terrorism and it is the only nation on that list to have full diplomatic relations with the United States. New sanctions would have limited economic effect, since bilateral trade reaches only about $300 million a year.

The Syrian Embassy in Washington was closed Tuesday for Veterans Day, but at the time the House bill passed Syrian diplomats warned that the legislation would damage U.S. standing in the Middle East.

Standing? As in over your border with a sh&tload of troops?
Posted by: Frank G || 11/11/2003 7:25:44 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Home Front
Muslim Defends U.S., Land He Loves
Thanks to Tanker for the link...
It took 14 surgeries, one of them lasting 11 hours, to repair the damage done to Sgt. Wasim Khan's right leg when a rocket-propelled grenade tore into his ammunition truck during a June battle in Iraq. Then there were two more surgeries to repair an eye. Khan, 27, still has marks on his arms and other parts of his body hit by shrapnel. But the worst damage was to his leg, where, Khan says, "It looked as though someone had spooned out a big chunk of it." That was repaired by doctors who took a muscle from his thigh, implanted it in the open wound and then covered it with a skin graft. Two skin grafts failed to work, but a third was successful.

Khan's ordeal isn't over. He is set to report back to the hospital in December for physical rehabilitation. Yesterday, Khan, who is a practicing Muslim and who prays five times a day on a small rug in the Richmond Hill apartment he shares with his cousin, Mohammed Nasim, stretched out on a couch, his wounded leg propped on a plump pillow. He showed me pictures taken at the hospital, including one with President George W. Bush and Bush's wife, Laura. "They were great," said Khan, who was born in Pakistan and arrived in America in 1997. "The president sat on my bed and shook hands with me and thanked me for fighting for the country and then he called me 'my fellow American.'"

Khan doesn't spend much time talking about the past and his horrific leg wound. "It is what it is," he said. But it's clear he is doing well and he has already put back the 27 pounds he lost during his four-month hospital stay. "I'm lucky to be alive," said Khan, who plans to march today in the Veteran's Day Parade along Fifth Avenue with soldiers from Fort Totten and a contingent of Marines. Khan has been in the Army for more than five years and still has two more years to go. He talks about signing on for another stint because he loves being in the Army and especially with the First Armored Division soldiers who were his tent mates. And he is proud now to be an American citizen, taking the oath at a ceremony in the hospital. "If you choose to live in a country, then you are obligated to defend it," he said. He has no sympathy for the suicide bombers. It is against the Muslim religion to commit suicide, he said. "It is a sin, and besides, anyone who is willing to blow himself up doesn't have any respect for himself or for anyone else," he added.

Khan grew up in a small town called Gilgit, close to the Chinese border. He was one of a large family of six brothers and two sisters. His father is an administrator at a college in Pakistan, and he had to get his parent's permission to leave for America. So it's all about the future these days for this introspective soldier. He has a fiancee in Pakistan and he plans marry her after she finishes college. Later this month, Khan's cousin Nasim is throwing him a welcome home party with "a lot of friends" - just before Khan leaves for another but less painful stay at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington.
Just a reminder they're not all bad guys. But I'll bet the family reads the Friday Times a lot more than they read the Balochistan Post.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 11/11/2003 14:30 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  And we need more men like this.
Posted by: Ptah || 11/11/2003 15:10 Comments || Top||

#2  He's here, he fought, he's wounded, he's one of us.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/11/2003 15:49 Comments || Top||

#3  Yes Fred they are not all bad guys. However Wasim is the exception and not the rule. I would get rid of my suspicions if I heard about some of them turning in the terrorists that live among them. Instead of trying to defend them. I grow tired of hearing about the 'Religion of Peace' when another car bomb goes off in Baghdad, Riyadh, or Israel. Wasim, I applaud your conviction, I just wish more Muslims had them.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 11/11/2003 18:28 Comments || Top||

#4  I suppose we are now too "PC" to create a modern equivalent to the 442nd Regimental Combat Team - a unit of tough AMERICAN Islamic fighters who'd like to see their kids grow up in the 21st (vs the 12th) century. Send them in to clean out places like Tikrit, along with all the reinforcing support we could muster.
Posted by: Lone Ranger || 11/11/2003 23:05 Comments || Top||

#5  LR, I doubt we would do such a thing in the current situation. Possibly if were fighting w/the NKors right now it would seem plausible to me. This would be congruent to sending Japanese-American troops to fight in Italy vice sending them to Guadalcanal, Iwo, etc. Integration is a big thing. I can't speak for the Army, but I've only known of about less than 15 Muslims in 7 years in the Corps.......
Posted by: Jarhead || 11/11/2003 23:30 Comments || Top||


Caucasus
Georgia Crisis Deepens as Truce Talks End Sans Deal
A political crisis in Georgia which has seen thousands of protesters calling for the resignation of President Eduard Shevardnadze deepened early Monday after late-night peace talks broke up with no agreement. After leaving the talks in Shevardnadze’s lavish residence just outside the capital, opposition leaders joined the 5,000 protesters who are camped outside the parliament building and who say they will not budge until the president annuls a disputed parliamentary election and quits office. "We will fight to the end, until this regime leaves," said Mikhail Saakashvili, who was at the failed talks. "Shevardnadze is leading the country towards civil war. He is responsible for whatever happens."
"Kids! Kids! The Mkhedrioni are back!"
The protests, which have been going on throughout this former Soviet republic for a week, have been peaceful. But there were fears that with Georgia’s turbulent history, they could turn violent. Defense Minister David Tevzadze warned on Sunday that "the situation has practically gone out of control. The situation is no longer manageable."
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 11/11/2003 14:24 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I'm just glad Zell Miller's out of there! /sarcasm
Posted by: Not Mike Moore || 11/11/2003 17:44 Comments || Top||

#2  LOL for once... Me too LMM.

Every time I see the Georgia headline...
Posted by: Shipman || 11/11/2003 18:47 Comments || Top||

#3  Is NOW protesting at Augusta again? I didn't know Shevardnadze was a member.
Posted by: ayatollahofrocknrolla || 11/11/2003 21:15 Comments || Top||


Middle East
PA Leadership, Officials, and Columnists: Israel Did It
From MEMRI, excerpt only...
  • PA Prime Minister Ahmed Qurei, also known as Abu Ala, condemned the attack, but did not blame Israel: " We harshly condemn this criminal incident
 We will act to follow the matter; we will examine the facts and take the necessary measures
"

  • PA Chairman Yasser Arafat, who condemned the bombing and ordered an investigative committee to be set up, condemned that Israel played a role in the incident. An official communiqué issued by the leadership stated, "The Palestinian leadership condemns in the harshest terms of condemnation the criminal bombing that occurred in Beit Lahia, [near Gaza] under the military control of the Israeli army, which caused the deaths of four [sic] American observers
 For many months, the northern Gaza border region has witnessed the renewed occupation and planting of land mines by the Israeli occupation forces
 The Palestinian leadership expresses its sincere condolences to the American president, the American administration, and the families of the innocent victims."

  • Saeb Erekat, a minister in Abu Alaa's emergency government, condemned the bombing, calling it a regrettable incident and said, "no Palestinian would harm international monitoring delegations." He said that the convoy was "a group of American inspectors with which we began to work regarding inspection of the execution of the road map."

  • In its communiqué, the Palestinian Legislative Council noted that the Israeli occupation was the only one to benefit from the bombing.

  • The PLO Executive Committee condemned the bombing, saying that "the aim of the act of aggression was to sully the reputation of our Palestinian people and whitewash the crimes committed against it in all Palestinian territories."

  • Following the arrest of nine Palestinians suspects, PLO Executive Committee member Zakariya Al-Agha denied Palestinian responsibility for the bombing. Israel, he said, had the most to gain from the attack because it wanted to prevent closer Palestinian-American relations. Al-Agha stressed that perhaps Palestinians had indeed been involved in the bombing, but if so they were working on behalf of Israeli intelligence.

  • In an article in the PA daily Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, Adel Sadeq, deputy to Minister of Foreign Affairs Nabil Shaath, responded to the claims that Palestinians had carried out the attack. He asserted that "The rationale [behind] the policy of the Palestinian struggle does not support an attack on foreign officials..." According to Sadeq, "the possibility that Sharon and his generals detonated the bomb from a distance must not be ruled out, because there are well-known precedents for such actions on their part, particularly against Americans."

  • The editor of the PA daily Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, Hafez Al-Barghouthi, raised the possibility that perhaps the bomb that hit the American car had been prepared for Israeli targets, but he emphasized the benefit that Israel could derive from this attack. He said that this was perhaps a trap or part of an operation by Israel, with the aim of blaming the Palestinians for aggression towards the Americans as Israel did in the past when it circulated rumors about the presence of Al-Qa'ida cells in the PA.

  • Bassem Abu Sumayyah, director of the official Palestinian radio station The Voice of Palestine and columnist for Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, accused Israeli PM Ariel Sharon: "This deed was carried out by an unknown [element] with the support of an element that I do not think is native, with capability and experience in making and planting mines and detonating them
" The aim of the bombing, he claimed, was to pour oil on the flames and give a green light to Israel's government to expand the war of annihilation and to draw the noose tighter around the PA, the government, and the Palestinian people.

  • Fuad Abu Hijleh, also a columnist for Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, also wrote that Israel was the sole benefactor of the attack because it is in its interest to persuade the U.S. that there is a need for a complete occupation of the Gaza Strip and that it is best that the U.S. remain quiet regarding operations Israel carried out in Rafah. With regard to the claim that the Mossad carried out the attack, Abu Hijleh wrote: "We are certain that the American administration knows that we know that this criminal attack on American civilians... was Israeli planning, for which Mossad personnel are responsible."

  • Hani Al-Masri, a PA Information Ministry official and columnist for the PA daily Al-Ayyam, also supported the claim that Israel will gain greatly from the attack. According to him, those who think that Israel is involved in the bombing are pointing at European pressure directed at the U.S. to send international monitors to oversee the implementation of the road map. According to this claim, he says, Israel, which opposed this position, sees operations of this type as a simple means of persuading the quartet of the pointlessness in sending international monitors, at least as far as security is concerned.

  • Cultural Ministry Director Ahmad Dahbour also wrote in Al-Hayat Al-Jadida that "anyone with a mind, two eyes, and a nose would understand, see, and smell behind this operation a plot [to further exacerbate] the dire Palestinian situation."
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 11/11/2003 14:14 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I don't know whether it would be depressing or hilarious to work for MEMRI and have to read this crapola all day... I suspect it would be both.
Posted by: snellenr || 11/11/2003 16:10 Comments || Top||

#2  quotes from the usual terror apologists?
No - because most of these don't even bother apologizing
Posted by: Frank G || 11/11/2003 18:59 Comments || Top||

#3  We need a MEMRI for Arab media in the US. What are they saying on Dearborn radio?
Posted by: Jabba the Nutt || 11/11/2003 22:56 Comments || Top||

#4  "We need a MEMRI for Arab media in the US. What are they saying on Dearborn radio?"

-probably saying that there's a sale on baklava and newports down at Ali's QuickMart off the Southfield Freeway and Michigan Ave. Buy one jihadi get one free.....LOL.
Posted by: Jarhead || 11/11/2003 23:23 Comments || Top||


The New Iraq Will Be 'the Beacon of Freedom, Democracy"
From MEMRI...
Ahmad Al-Jarallah, Editor-in-Chief of the Kuwaiti daily Al-Siyassa, harshly criticized Arab regimes who refused to recognize the Iraqi Governing Council. The following are excerpts from his article:
The new free Iraq regained – through its transitional administration – its seat in the U.N. and in OPEC, and [was given] representation in the Arab League. The rehabilitation of Iraq continues also in the rest of the international organizations, and Iraq intends to become again an active member of the international community. The new Iraq is moving ahead towards its goals despite the obstacles [created] by the terrorists and their murderous acts. It is making progress towards completing the foundations of an exemplary country that will be the beacon of freedom, democracy, and respect to human rights in [our] Middle East, which looks more like a wasteland dominated by the silence of a graveyard. A Middle East frozen like a glacier, full of Sultans sitting indefinitely on their seats of power, republics that are inherited [from father to son], and wilting exhausted regimes.
What lovely descriptive prose. I couldn't have written it better myself...
Despite all that, we see the heads of the regime in the Arab world, a regime
 that has completely lost its authority, and that belongs to [the category of] totalitarian and single-party regimes and [whose members] adhere to hollow ideologies that breed only terror, hatred, and repression — they are the ones who are refusing to recognize the transitional Governing Council in Iraq. These people wave [the claim] that the Governing Council is illegitimate, has not been elected, and was established by the U.S. government and the American occupation administration.
Resting securely in their own somewhat dubious hereditary legitimacy...
Such explanations are ridiculous and pitiful
 because these opponents [to the Governing Council], basically and fundamentally, lack legitimacy. They attained power by usurping it, and not through legitimate elections, and the only culture of those who, by and large, rode in tanks to rob the legitimate owners of their power, is the culture of murder and death.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 11/11/2003 14:03 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I don't remember where I read it, but all the positive happenings occurred during the time the Kurds held the rotational presidency on the Interim council.
Posted by: Ptah || 11/11/2003 15:27 Comments || Top||

#2  Well, I got a Rooster, cigar, and a shot of what made the preacher bounce along with my new copy of Santaria for Dummies I'll make a wish for the beacon thing.
Posted by: Billie Sol Shipman || 11/11/2003 16:04 Comments || Top||


Head of Palestinian religious court in West Bank arrested
JPost Reg req’d
The head of the Palestinian religious court in the West Bank was under arrest Tuesday on suspicion of incitement and rebellion against the State of Israel, police said.
How Islamic....religious court huh? Judge Wapner with an AK47?
Tafir Tamimi, 51, a resident of the West Bank city of Hebron, was apprehended overnight together with four other judges as they entered a restaurant in east Jerusalem without bearing the proper permits to be in Israel.
Oops....crossed into enemy territory for excellent falafel?
The suspects were to be remanded late Tuesday at the Jerusalem Magistrate’s court.
Released in a timely manner I’m sure, but in the meantime....have a little talk with this POS
Posted by: Frank G || 11/11/2003 11:42:55 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Presiding in the High Court of the Holy Hand Grenade...
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/11/2003 11:50 Comments || Top||

#2  All the IDF has to do is make these murderers look like collaborators with the state of Israel. Then release them back into the PLO arab population center in the West Bank of Israel, where they will be quickly slaughtered by the very animals they breed. Poetic justice.
Posted by: ISLAM SUCKS || 11/11/2003 12:48 Comments || Top||

#3  Beautiful idea, IS -- as they're let go, have one of the IDF officers give them a great big hug, then have one of them OBVIOUSLY slip them a wad of cash. All done as an apology for the "insult" they endured, of course.

Then, once they're back in their courts, broadcast a statement from one of those officers saying how pleased they were with the cooperation shown by the "judges", and how they look forward to helping the judges clean up the corruption and terrorism rampant in the West Bank.

They'll be hanging from lamp posts inside an hour.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 11/11/2003 13:09 Comments || Top||

#4  Give each and evëry one a general anaesthetic and then he wakes up with a neat little one inch scar over the heart. "Next please...
Posted by: Grunter || 11/11/2003 19:08 Comments || Top||


Home Front
CNN supplies questions for Dem debate
The student who asked the most ridiculed question at CNN’s "Rock the Vote" debate last week — "Macs or PCs?" — says it wasn’t her idea. Alexandra Trustman said yesterday that a CNN producer called her on the morning of the Boston forum and suggested she ask about the Democratic presidential candidates’ computer preferences. Puzzled by the request, she writes in Brown University’s Daily Herald, she drafted a more complicated question about how the candidates would use technology. But in Boston, Trustman said, she was handed a notecard with the digital-age equivalent of the boxers-or-briefs choice put to Bill Clinton. She wrote that she told the producer "I didn’t see the question’s relevance," but that he rejected her proposed query "because it wasn’t light-hearted enough and they wanted to modulate the event with various types of questions." Trustman said she was informed that the network "thought it would be a good opportunity for the candidates to relate to a younger audience."
This line is the key point to me. CNN broke the trust given to them in hosting a fair debate in order to promote Democrats to a younger audience... in other words they were campaigning for Democrats during a debate. I don’t think they can be trusted to hold any future debates, especially between Republicans and Democrats. If they would do this what’s to stop them from supplying questions to Democrats well before a debate and leave the Republicans in the dark, among other things....
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American || 11/11/2003 10:21:20 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Covering up for Saddam and shilling for Democrats...
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 11/11/2003 10:25 Comments || Top||

#2  DPA, you act surprised? They cheer every time an American soldier falls or someone loses a job. The act like only a Democrat can win a war or stimulate the economy. None of their show even pretend to be fair, so why should a CNN debate. On a side note, very few people actually watch the nine dwarfs in 'concert'. This is also why CNN's ratings are way down.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 11/11/2003 10:36 Comments || Top||

#3  So after all these CNN fun and games, what is Ms. Trustman's take on this? Is she still going to reflexively vote for whatever Democrat is trotted out as the eventual nominee?
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 11/11/2003 10:40 Comments || Top||

#4  Just proves what we've always known. Questions like, "in light of the failure in Iraq, what do you think about X", or "given Bush's decline in popularity, what do you feel about X", aren't questions, they are statements.

That pretty much summarizes any and all CNN, NPR and BBC broadcasts, no?
Posted by: B || 11/11/2003 11:03 Comments || Top||

#5  CNN has admitted that it got one person to ask a specific CNN question. We know this because that one person told us.

How many more people did CNN give questions to? Will CNN tell us?
Posted by: The Kid || 11/11/2003 12:51 Comments || Top||

#6  A better question to these guys...

Commodore or Amiga?

Any answer would have been acceptable...
Posted by: Shipman || 11/11/2003 13:04 Comments || Top||

#7  tap..tap..tap... maybe it is broken after all....
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/11/2003 17:38 Comments || Top||

#8  The SM isn't broken CF.. it just can't measure a small enough quanity of smurk.

We need a digial surprise meter with an add-on funk-o'gram.


Posted by: Shipman || 11/11/2003 19:00 Comments || Top||

#9  the constant debates are not helping at all. Even if the .01% folks continue to lose the debates they will not drop out, the field will remain cluttered. The candidates should debate right before the primaries, anything before that is a waste of time. THey should do interviews with Chris Mathews, Bill O'Reilly, and Tim Russert instead.
Posted by: Yank || 11/11/2003 19:10 Comments || Top||

#10  Crazy - spend a few extra bucks on your next surprise-meter, and get a diagnostic self-test built in. That's the only way I can tell if mine's still working or not. The dummycheats are so scripted it hurts to watch.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 11/11/2003 20:00 Comments || Top||

#11  So, they scripted it to give Sharpton a chance to do half an hour of his standup routine at Dean's expense? I wonder if they did that to try and pull the reins in on Dean.
Posted by: ayatollahofrocknrolla || 11/11/2003 21:12 Comments || Top||

#12  CNN also backed Campaign Finance Reform. What is this contribution worth to the Dem's campaigns? Will this contibution show up in the Center for Responsible Whatever research reports? Just wondering.
Posted by: Jabba the Nutt || 11/11/2003 22:18 Comments || Top||

#13  Jabba,

Sure it will... right after the union contributions.... oh ... wait...
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/11/2003 22:25 Comments || Top||


Africa: West
Ex-U.S. Top Cop Overhauls Liberia Police
A retired American police chief arrived in Liberia's capital to head a special U.N. mission tasked with rebuilding this still volatile and war-shattered nation's ill-trained and ill-equipped police force. Former Portland, Ore. police chief Mark Kroeker, who arrived Sunday, will lead over 1,100 civilian police officers from 46 countries around the world, including Russia, Thailand, Norway, Sweden, Jordan and a number of African nations. Kroeker is one of 10 foreign police officers already in Monrovia. The rest are due to land in Liberia over the next few months. They are here in addition to a growing peacekeeping mission — due to expand to 15,000 by January — that's helping secure an August peace deal that ended years of civil war in the West African nation. Kroeker, 59, told The Associated Press in an interview late Monday his greatest challenge will be making sure "we have the resources that are needed to train, equip, deploy and ensure that all the technical experience is installed in the new police."
I dunno. I think the greatest challenge will be to stop them from wearing brassieres...
"Our responsibility is not to be their government or to be their police, but to enhance and develop and grow a police that will become something that every Liberian will be happy to have." Liberia's current police force, numbering about 3,500 to 4,000, is poorly equipped, irregularly paid and rife with corruption. The United Nations says it will be disbanded and rebuilt under a U.N. mandate. New officers could come from the former force; all would have to go through background checks, Kroeker said.
Good luck. You're gonna need it...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 11/11/2003 09:38 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  New officers could come from the former force; all would have to go through background checks ...

"Okay, mister, you want to be a police officer, eh?"
"Yes please."
"First, a background check: did you at any time in the last ten years participate in atrocities, steal anything to feed your family, assist various gangs, thugs and bandits as they looted the country, or help Mr. Taylor carry large suitcases of cash to the plane?"
"No."
"Hokay, you're in. Here's yer badge, now git out there!"
Posted by: Steve White || 11/11/2003 15:28 Comments || Top||


Middle East
Kuntar not to be released in prisoner swap
JPost Reg Req’d - EFL
Smadar Haran, whose family was massacred by terroris Samir Kuntar, said on Army Radio Tuesday morning that she refuses to entertain thoughts on the release of her family’s murderer. "I refuse to be another piece of red meat thrown into the gladiator ring by Nasrallah so that he can enjoy the continuing circus of bereaved families he has set against each other."
sounds like she’s got her priorities right
Hizbullah’s demand for the inclusion in any prisoners’ exchange deal of Lebanese Druse terrorist Samir Kuntar has put in doubt the expected prisoner exchange and has drawn a steadfast response from Israeli officials, who maintain that terrorists with Israeli blood on their hands, such as Kuntar, will not be part of the deal. Prime Minister Ariel Sharon reiterated to the Likud faction on Monday that Kuntar will not be released from jail as part of the prisoner exchange. Asked by MK Ehud Yatom why Kuntar was not mentioned specifically in the government’s decision, Sharon said, "We agreed a long time ago that Kuntar would not be released."
Ever. I hope.
Sharon said there is still no target date for the prisoners to return home, but mediator Ilan Biran will soon return to Germany to finalize the plan and decide on a date. Asked about why Azzam Azzam wasn’t included in the deal, Sharon said that no Egyptian prisoners will be released for that very reason. The Hizbullah are adamant that there would be no prisoner exchange deal with Israel if Kuntar, who headed the four-man Palestine Liberation Front squad on the murderous attack in Nahariya 24 years ago, is not included.
Tough bananas. It was a stoopid idea anyway...
Bassam Kuntar, the brother of Samir Kuntar, claims Hizbullah leader Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah has personally promised him that his brother was an integral part of the exchange, according to Al Jazeera. Hizbullah officials also claimed that they have a letter from Israel pledging to include Kuntar in future prisoner swap deals. Foreign Minister Shalom has not directly reacted to the report on the letter.
Nasrallah promised something he can’t deliver...and of course we can’t let him be humiliated
But Shalom has responsed to Hizbullah’s demand for Kuntar’s release that Israel too had "red lines" it would not cross. "Prime Minister Sharon said that Kuntar’s release is out of the question. The murder of a family in Israel is unforgivable. I oppose his release. We have stated in the clearest possible terms throughout the negotiations that Kuntar is not on the list," Shalom said. "I hope the other side understands that there are limits to the demands they place on us. We have not agreed to release any nationals with blood on their hands," the Foreign Minister added. By a vote of 12-11, Sharon was able to pass a resolution laying down the principles of the prisoner swap with Hizbullah. The issue of Kuntar resurfaced after Nasrallah made clear that there would be no deal without Kuntar.
then no deal - don’t let this asshole dictate terms
In Lebanon, Hizbullah officials did not formally respond to the Israeli cabinet’s decision to proceed with the prisoner exchange deal. However, Hizbullah officials did threaten to engage in yet more criminal activity kidnap more Israelis if the deal collapses. Mohammed Fneish, a Hizbullah legislator, "If the pressure cards we have ... are not sufficient to convince the Israeli enemy’s government to respect the freedom of our detainees ..., the Hizbullah command will definitely search for means to force the Israeli enemy’s government to release our detainees," he told Al Manar TV. On Saturday Nasrallah confirmed an earlier Hizbullah report in Friday’s edition of the Lebanese A-Safir daily newspaper in which sources said that the Shiite group would call off the exchange if Kuntar is not included. "Any swap that excludes any of the Lebanese detainees will not be acceptable to us and will not happen," Nasrallah said during a Hizbullah-hosted Ramadan fast-breaking meal at sunset Saturday. "I say to the (Israeli) enemy government ... that the first name on the list must be Samir Kantar."
If they spring him, they're stoopid, and they'll deserve what happens next...
According to Israel Army Radio, the Lebanese sources said "Israel’s refusal [to release Kuntar] endangers the entire deal since it contradicts the terms of the agreement, which calls for the release of all Lebanese prisoners." Samir Kuntar led the terrorists who infiltrated Israeli territory from Lebanon in April 1979 in a rubber dinghy and beached their boat in Nahariya. Their aim was to take hostages to delay implementation of the then Camp David accords between Israel and Egypt and demand the release of prisoners held by Israel. Danny Hadan, 28, and his daughters Einat, four, and Yael, just two, were killed in the attack along with policeman Eliyahu Shahar, who was called to what was originally thought to be a burglary and was shot dead by one of the terrorists.
another military victory by the Islamic heroes!
Shahar’s widow, Shula, who brought up their three children alone, has come out strongly against the release of Kuntar as part of any exchange deal. She was 22 and seven months pregnant with their third child when her husband was killed. Their son, Yakir, who was born two months after the killing of his father after whom he is named, is due to be married in two weeks time.
Posted by: Frank G || 11/11/2003 7:08:37 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Another military victory by the islamic heroes".
I may be wrong, and I hope better-informed readers will correct me, but wasn't that the infamous attack in which the toddler was accidentally killed by his/her mother, while she hid and watched her "eldest" son being beaten to death with rifle butt after her husband was shot dead?
Posted by: Anonymous || 11/11/2003 18:20 Comments || Top||

#2  nope this was '79. The incident I believe you are referring to is only a couple years ago, where the mother accidently smothered her infant in laying on her to protect her....so many dead, sometimes it's hard to separate them - still my sarcasm remains - Islamic heroes indeed
Posted by: Frank G || 11/11/2003 19:02 Comments || Top||


Home Front
Twenty-Six House Democrats Push to Fire Rumsfeld
A group of more than two dozen House of Representatives Democrats
[("the Congressional Surrender Caucus")]
on Monday said they had introduced a resolution urging President Bush to fire Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. "This resolution would make official what so many members of Congress
[and al-Qaida, and the Arab National Socialist Baath Party, and the French foreign ministry,]
already believe — that the soldiers in Iraq and America?s foreign policy would be eviscerated helped greatly if Donald Rumsfeld would leave," Rep. Charles Rangel of New York said in a statement. Rangel said he so far had 25 co-sponsors to the resolution who were "willing to stand up and make fools of themselves say what so many policy makers know, that the first step to bringing our troops home is to send Donald Rumsfeld home."
What's the first step in leaving them there until the job's done?
The resolution said Rumsfeld misled the American public on assessments of progress in the war and occupation, sent U.S. forces to Iraq "without adequate planning and sufficient equipment," and "demonstrated a lack of sensitivity" in statements on the war and U.S. casualties.
". . . and worse yet, he did it without French approval!"
With members of the deeply divided, Republican-controlled Congress pushing for adjournment before the end of November, the resolution would be highly unlikely to come up for a vote.
. . . and highly unlikely to pass if it did, and highly unlikely to persuade President Bush even if it did pass.

Rangel is a weasel. This is roughly equivalent to a member of congress calling on FDR to fire George Marshall or Chester Nimitz in the middle of 1944. It's called "giving aid and comfort to enemies of the United States."
Posted by: Mike || 11/11/2003 6:51:44 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  repost from last night - how many of "Chollie" Rangel's Black Congressional Caucus (i.e.: Maxine Waters, Sheila Jackson Lee, et al) cohorts are signers? Publish the names of the traitorous scum, Rangel!
Posted by: Frank G || 11/11/2003 7:10 Comments || Top||

#2  I'm surprised that a proposal that probably represents mainstream thinking within the Democratic caucus only got 26 supporters out of a couple hundred Democrat representatives. Signs of intelligent life (or survival instincts below the level of conscious thought)?
Posted by: snellenr || 11/11/2003 8:07 Comments || Top||

#3  Rangel never ceases to amaze. The ensuing year of 'campaigning' is going to be ugly beyond belief. Extra large order of re-heated Vietnam with a side of SS squad hysteria TO GO! Order UP!
Posted by: eyeyeye || 11/11/2003 9:06 Comments || Top||

#4  I wonder if this is more of a stunt by the Black Caucus to get some face-time in the media. There has not been allot of minority attention since the War on Terrorism began. I expect the wheel to become more squeaky leading up to the elections, then they will fade away again.

Posted by: Yosemite Sam || 11/11/2003 10:14 Comments || Top||

#5  You know, I love New York, but the what the hell is up with your voting? Rangel, Schumer, Swillary three of the worst politicos of our time all in one state!
Posted by: wills || 11/11/2003 10:25 Comments || Top||

#6  It's a stunt. Chuck needs to be in front of a camera, why I am not sure (He is not very photogenic). You remember when this all started that Chuck said the 'Most of the combat will fall on the minorities.' Of course this is more race baiting. I wouldn't be surprised if the resolution didn't contain: 'to help promote better race relations in the service.' If this isn't cowardliness in the face of the enemy, it's the first cousin.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 11/11/2003 10:27 Comments || Top||

#7  I can't wait until that list of politicians, celebrities, and persons of infulence who were on Sadaam's payroll is releases. I would only be surprised if he WASN'T on the list.
Posted by: B || 11/11/2003 11:05 Comments || Top||

#8  Give me a petition to fire Chuckie Rangel, and I'll sign. Twice. Maybe even three times.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 11/11/2003 11:16 Comments || Top||

#9  I'll tell you what's up with our voting here in NY. It's NYC, where I live. Overwhelmingly influential in election outcomes because of the population, and the fact that most city folk think of Westchester County as "upstate," unaware of just how much there is in this state.
Posted by: growler || 11/11/2003 11:38 Comments || Top||

#10  "demonstrated a lack of sensitivity"

A 'sensitive guy' running DoD? Yeah, that'll work...
Posted by: Raj || 11/11/2003 12:39 Comments || Top||

#11  this is such big news I can't find it on Google or Reuters - trying to find out which losers co-signed, altough I bet I can guess most of them
Posted by: Frank G || 11/11/2003 13:29 Comments || Top||

#12  eyeyeye said, "The ensuing year of 'campaigning' is going to be ugly beyond belief."

I agree, its going to get ugly. What I'm really wondering about is what happens if Bush wins by a landslide. Will that settle people down, after all he's elected then, not selected. Or will it drive them more insane, after all there is something about George W. Bush that seems to derail rational thinking in some of the left.
Posted by: Yank || 11/11/2003 16:32 Comments || Top||

#13  That's OK - now the White House can call for each of these CongressCritters to fire one of their highest-ranking, most valuable staffers. Fair's fair, no? If these clowns don't believe in the separation of powers, why should the White House? Because of the Constitution they swore to defend, you say? Unimportant; what matters it that they GET THEIR WAY, even in things that are none of their business.

Wotta buncha maroons.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 11/11/2003 16:59 Comments || Top||

#14  Rumsfeld is doing a decent job imho. One of my buddies who was working at the Pentagon for a while said the guy is the most cantankerous & grumpy bastards you'll ever meet, but, he's respected for his ability to get the job done & cut to the heart of the matter.

Rangel's always good for a laugh. I think Sharpton and him go to the same barber.....
Posted by: Jarhead || 11/11/2003 21:46 Comments || Top||

#15  This looks like a job for...
THE RUMSFELD STRANGLER!!
Posted by: mojo || 11/11/2003 23:32 Comments || Top||


In rare Jewish appearance, George Soros says Jews and Israel cause anti-Semitism
ItÂŽs not often that George Soros, the billionaire financier and philanthropist, makes an appearance before a Jewish audience. ItÂŽs even rarer for him to use such an occasion to talk about Israel, Jews and his own role in effecting political change. So when Soros stepped to the podium Nov. 5 to address those issues at a conference of the Jewish Funders Network, audience members were listening carefully. Many were surprised by what they heard.

When asked about anti-Semitism in Europe, Soros, who is Jewish, said European anti-Semitism is the result of the policies of Israel and the United States. "There is a resurgence of anti-Semitism in Europe. The policies of the Bush administration and the Sharon administration contribute to that," Soros said. "ItÂŽs not specifically anti-Semitism, but it does manifest itself in anti- Semitism as well. IÂŽm critical of those policies. If we change that direction, then anti-Semitism also will diminish. I canÂŽt see how one could confront it directly."

That is a point made by IsraelÂŽs most vociferous critics, whom some Jewish activists charge with using anti-Zionism as a guise for anti-Semitism. The billionaire financier said he, too, bears some responsibility for the new anti-Semitism, citing last monthÂŽs speech by MalaysiaÂŽs outgoing prime minister, Mahathir Mohammad, who said, "Jews rule the world by proxy."

"IÂŽm also very concerned about my own role because the new anti-Semitism holds that the Jews rule the world," said Soros, whose projects and funding have influenced governments and promoted various political causes around the world. "As an unintended consequence of my actions," he said, "I also contribute to that image."
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Posted by: Anonymous || 11/11/2003 5:43:10 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Well, this moron certainly raises the bar for self-hating Jews.

"If we change that direction, then anti-Semitism also will diminish," he said. "I can´t see how one could confront it directly."

If we change direction anti-semitism will certainly decrease as the number of Jews left alive decrease. Rollingover and playing nice with splodeydopes isn't an option genius. Is that the direction change you'd like to affect? They want you and yours dead. Period.

This guy has certainly missed a good opportunity to keep quiet
Posted by: Mike || 11/11/2003 7:33 Comments || Top||

#2  "As an unintended consequence of my actions," he said, "I also contribute to that image."

Sheesh... now I gotta go out and buy a replacement B.S. meter -- this comment just bent the needle on the old one. Probably go digital this time...
Posted by: snellenr || 11/11/2003 8:13 Comments || Top||

#3  Yeah, no anti-Semitism in Europe before the existence of Israel...
Posted by: Brian (MN) || 11/11/2003 8:35 Comments || Top||

#4  If "European anti-Semitism is the result of the policies of Israel and the United States," then Europeans are even stupider than I thought...
Posted by: Mr. J || 11/11/2003 9:46 Comments || Top||

#5  George ("I´m also very concerned about my own role because the new anti-Semitism holds that the Jews rule the world . . . As an unintended consequence of my actions, I also contribute to that image") Soros

meet Robert ("It is all my fault that the Afghan thugs beat me up") Fisk.
Posted by: Tibor || 11/11/2003 11:39 Comments || Top||

#6  Whoa Tibor

Dead on.

Let's go trash a currency.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/11/2003 13:06 Comments || Top||

#7  Anti-Semitism is not the result of anything but stupidity. I have been hearing Soros' argument for 70 years now. Yes, good "non anti-semitic" Germans used it in the 30s ("I have nothing against Jews but because they own all the businesses etc...). If you believe that the actions of individuals (or even a government) lead to fanatic hate against whole peoples, races or cultures, then you are exactly the anti-whatever you say you are not.

I do not always agree with US politics, I'm not a big fan of George Bush (although he DOES some right things) but even if I completely loathed the actions of the current US administration I would have no reason to be anti-American.

Mr Soros, too many people have died in the last century because their henchmen believed that it was all the victim's fault.

The Israeli government could shut down Israel, leave the country to the Arabs and make all Israelis emigrate to the four corners of the world for the "sake of peace". It wouldnt't abolish anti-Semitism. Not one jota.

2 days ago we laid the foundation stone of a new synagogue in Munich. It will be in the heart of the old city. A whole new Jewish cultural center will exist in a few years. It will help to make Jewish people feel at home once again in a city that in 1945 only counted 7 surviving Jews. Will it lead to a decline of anti-Semitism? Probably not.

But it will fight it wherever it can.
Posted by: True German Ally || 11/11/2003 13:51 Comments || Top||

#8  TGA! Just a howdy back.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/11/2003 13:59 Comments || Top||

#9  Thank you, Shipman. I was very quiet, I was hunting... errr.. not weasels though.
Posted by: True German Ally || 11/11/2003 14:06 Comments || Top||

#10  wahhabits? Welcome back TGA
Posted by: Frank G || 11/11/2003 14:36 Comments || Top||

#11  Missed you TGA. Welcome back and congratulations on the new synagogue.
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/11/2003 14:41 Comments || Top||

#12  TGA, howdy! As long as you weren't "elk-hunting" it's okay. Sounds like you're a part of some great things there in Germany.

Snellenr: get the model that lets you dial in different resistances. Mine has settings for "Streisand" "Rangel" "de Villepin" (it's pink) and "Kennedy". You can even set all four in line at once; I have yet to see the needle bend at the top. Though it's been close a couple times.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/11/2003 15:48 Comments || Top||

#13  Thanks for the tip, SW... I'm off to Radio Schlock...
Posted by: snellenr || 11/11/2003 15:55 Comments || Top||

#14  Hi TGA! We were worrying about you!
Posted by: Bulldog || 11/11/2003 19:30 Comments || Top||


Soros: "Defeating Bush Central Focus of My Life..."
EFL
George Soros, one of the world’s richest men, has given away nearly $5 billion to promote democracy in the former Soviet bloc, Africa and Asia.
Hmm, are we missing any prominent regions here?
Now he has a new project: defeating President Bush.
So much for democracy in the Middle East.
"It is the central focus of my life," Soros said, his blue eyes settled on an unseen target. The 2004 presidential race, he said in an interview, is "a matter of life and death." Soros, who has financed efforts to promote open societies in more than 50 countries around the world, is bringing the fight home, he said. On Monday, he and a partner committed up to $5 million to MoveOn.org, a liberal activist group, bringing to $15.5 million the total of his personal contributions to oust Bush. Overnight, Soros, 74, has become senile the major financial player of the left. He has elicited cries of foul play from the right. And with a tight nod, he pledged: "If necessary, I would give more money."
"That's all I have to give. I don't have any ideas..."
"America, under Bush, is a danger to terrorist and tyrannts the world," Soros said. Then he smiled: "And I’m willing to put my money where my mouth is."
Ho ho. He talks a big game. See last paragraph.
Soros believes that a "supremacist ideology" guides this White House. He hears echoes in its rhetoric of his childhood in occupied Hungary. "When I hear Bush say, ’You’re either with us or against us,’ it reminds me of the Germans." It conjures up memories, he said, of Nazi slogans on the walls, Der Feind Hort mit ("The enemy is listening"). "My experiences under Nazi and Soviet rule have sensitized me," he said in a soft Hungarian accent.
Didn’t he come to America as a refugee from tyranny? Now that The Long Night of Fascism is officially decending on America, will he flee again? Will he have to sneak past guard towers, search lights, barbed wire, and barking german shephards, while huddling in the dark with Alec Baldwin?
Soros’s contributions are filling a gap in Democratic Party finances that opened after the restrictions in the 2002 McCain-Feingold law took effect. In the past, political parties paid a large share of television and get-out-the-vote costs with unregulated "soft money" contributions from corporations, unions and rich individuals. The parties are now barred from accepting such money. But non-party groups in both camps are stepping in, accepting soft money and taking over voter mobilization. In past election cycles, Soros contributed relatively modest sums. In 2000, his aide said, he gave $122,000, mostly to Democratic causes and candidates. But recently, Soros has grown alarmed at the influence of neoconservatives, whom he calls "a bunch of extremists guided by a crude form of social Darwinism." Neoconservatives, Soros said, are exploiting the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, to promote a preexisting agenda of preemptive war and stopping terrorism world dominion. "Bush feels that on September 11th he was anointed by God," Soros said. "He’s leading the U.S. and the world toward a vicious circle of escalating violence."
Like our attacks this weekend in Riyadh...
Soros said he had been waking at 3 a.m., his thoughts shaking him "like an alarm clock."
Ethel, get George his pills.
Sitting in his robe, he wrote his ideas down, longhand, on a stack of pads. In January, PublicAffairs will publish them as a book, "The Bubble of American Supremacy" (an excerpt appears in December’s Atlantic Monthly). In it, he argues for a collective approach to security, increased foreign aid
Is 87 billion a good figure?
and "preventive action." His campaign began last summer with the help of Morton H. Halperin, a liberal think tank veteran. Soros invited Democratic strategists to his house in Southampton, Long Island, including Clinton chief of staff John D. Podesta, Jeremy Rosner, Robert Boorstin and Carl Pope. They discussed the coming election. Standing on the back deck, the evening sun angling into their eyes, they kissed Soros took aside Steve Rosenthal, CEO of the liberal activist group America Coming Together (ACT), and Ellen Malcolm, its president. They were proposing to mobilize voters in 17 battleground states. Soros told them he would give ACT $10 million. "They were ready to kiss my ass me," Soros quipped.
I’ll bet they were. You know the effect that romantic settings can have - a sunset on the porch of a stately beach house, a glass of wine, $15 million in donations...
Before coffee the next morning, his friend Peter Lewis, chairman of the Progressive Corp., had pledged $10 million to ACT. Rob Glaser, founder and CEO of RealNetworks, promised $2 million. Rob McKay, president of the McKay Family Foundation, gave $1 million and benefactors Lewis and Dorothy Cullman committed $500,000. Soros also promised up to $3 million to Podesta’s new think tank, the Center for American Progress. Soros will continue to recruit leftwing sugardaddys wealthy donors for his campaign. Having put a lot of money into the war of ideas around the world, he has learned that "money buys talent; you can advocate more effectively." In an effort to limit Soros’s influence, the RNC sent a letter to Dean Monday, asking him to request that ACT and similar organizations follow the McCain-Feingold restrictions limiting individual contributions to $2,000. The RNC is not the only group irked by Soros. Fred Wertheimer, president of Democracy 21, which promotes changes in campaign finance, has benefited from Soros’s grants over the years. Soros has backed altering campaign finance, an aide said, donating close to $18 million over the past seven years. "There’s some irony, given the supporting role he played in helping to end the soft money system," Wertheimer said.
"Some irony": understatement of the week?
"I’m sorry that Mr. Soros doesn't want to play be the rules he paid to have enacted has decided to put so much money into a political effort to defeat a candidate. We will be watchdogging him closely." Asked whether he would trade his $7 billion fortune to unseat Bush, Soros opened his mouth. Then he closed it. The proposal hung in the air: Would he become poor to beat Bush? He said, "If someone guaranteed it."
What was that earlier about putting your money where your mouth is?

Kudos to the WaPo reporter for injecting some winking skepticism into this piece. By all accounts, Soros’s philanthropy in Eastern Europe was very commendable and instrumental in the downfall of the Iron Curtain. But he’s clearly gone around the bend in his old age.
Posted by: Tokyo Taro || 11/11/2003 4:22:33 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I just saw this. WTF is wrong with Soros?
Posted by: Anonymous || 11/11/2003 5:40 Comments || Top||

#2  The international Left will stop at nothing to destroy America and now they have Soros on board to fund their plot.
Posted by: Ned || 11/11/2003 6:37 Comments || Top||

#3  Funny thing is, Soros has always been accused by the far-right (at least here) to be part of the Trilateral/Bilderberg/Bn'ai brith/... anglo-zionists behind globalization, a conspiracy which also includes GWB, of course (S&B, jewish neocons). As a result, I'm very confused. If conspiracy theorists could get their act together, I wouldn't be so mixed up about who's secretly ruling the Evil US of A. Atomic conspiracy or Secret Master could certainly give us the insider's view about the Great Plan.
Anyway, from the little I understand about Georges Soros, this is in accord with his political view. Perhaps someone should sick Mohammed Mohatir on him.
Posted by: Anonymous II || 11/11/2003 6:39 Comments || Top||

#4  At least he'll be able to afford all the antidepressants he's going to need after November '04.
Posted by: Mike || 11/11/2003 6:54 Comments || Top||

#5  WTF is wrong with Soros?

Nothing... this is just what "trying to rule the world by proxy" looks like when you examine it closely.

Where oh where is the billionaire who'll double down Soros on the other side of the political argument? (hint -- it ain't me...)
Posted by: snellenr || 11/11/2003 8:17 Comments || Top||

#6  Well, I hope the leftists at moveon.org have a nice party with the money they are getting. Best spend some of it on aspirin and hangover remedies for 3 Nov. 2004, as well as a stake removal kit: to remove the stake from the heart of the left the right is getting ready to drive in. The best part is that fingerprints on the stake will all be prominent democrats, like Soros.

Enjoy the little monetary 'bump'
Posted by: badanov || 11/11/2003 8:30 Comments || Top||

#7  Soros has Mandela disease. Addicted to that warm fuzzy feeling of people blowing smoke up his ass. Oh Georgie, yer gonna save the WORLD !! Where is that pony-tail debate guy looking for a father figure president to nurture him.
Posted by: eyeyeye || 11/11/2003 9:12 Comments || Top||

#8  Well, who wouldn't get behind an organization called "Americans Coming Together"? I just don't know that I want Soros in the room at the time.
Posted by: BH || 11/11/2003 10:33 Comments || Top||

#9  Which party is the party for the rich again? Well the millions should improve MoveOns puppet show at least.
Posted by: Yank || 11/11/2003 10:43 Comments || Top||

#10  It can't be stressed enough that Soros wants to legalize marijuana. He definitely shows sign of long-term use. I expect that at least once he will explode into a fit and accuse Bush of starting WWII or collaborating with Aliens.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 11/11/2003 11:05 Comments || Top||

#11  "Perhaps someone should sick Mohammed Mohatir on him."
Someone already has, in 1997 (or thereabouts) during the Asian financial crisis Mohatir blamed the Jews in general and Soros in particular for causing the crisis. I don’t recall Soros or Krugman blaming Mohatir's bigotry back then on Bill Clinton. But now Dubya is in power and they both claim he is responsible for anti-Semitism because he is... standing up to anti-Semites! I guess Soros thinks its best to keep quiet and apologize for being a Jew and for being rich and hope that the Islamofascists show him mercy.
So not only are the Democratic candidates pandering to the A.N.S.W.E.R. vote but now they are going to take money from this shmuck? So the Democratic Party is now officially the party of appeasement, of both terror and anti-Semitism?
Posted by: A.S. || 11/11/2003 11:07 Comments || Top||

#12  Just as in public education, more money is not a guarantee of success. Soros can throw his entire fortune at some Democrat candidate, but it all boils down to who is willing to protect this country, it's citizens, and it's interests first and foremost, and precious few of those Democrats have indicated they would.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 11/11/2003 11:07 Comments || Top||

#13  I would think the Soros statements could be used to pry Jewish voters away from the Dem party, possibly for good this time. They've been defecting to the GOP on issues, none more so than the existence/defense of Israel. Soros would erase Israel to eradicate this guilt/self-hate he has - his Dollars will equal policy at the Dem party.
Posted by: Frank G || 11/11/2003 11:37 Comments || Top||

#14  Frank G,

Greifer (don't insult the Kapos by associating them with him) Soros, mass-murder loving swine that he is, loves to see Jews die. Fortunately, rational Jewish pols like Koch have gotten the message.
Posted by: Ernest Brown || 11/11/2003 13:56 Comments || Top||

#15  What company did Soros own/found?
Posted by: Yank || 11/11/2003 15:14 Comments || Top||

#16  Yank,
Which party is the party for the rich again?
Yank at some magical point you are no longer rich but worthy, if you can make the dough by manipulating the system, so much the better.

Posted by: Billie Sol Shipman || 11/11/2003 15:54 Comments || Top||

#17  There is nothing unusual about Soros. Despite what the Left says, rich people disproportionately support left wing causes.

If you look at the data here in Australia. The leftish Labour party gets a lot more large donations from individuals than does the rightish coalition. My personal view is that rich people feel guilty about being rich and they assuage their guilt by supporting left wing causes.
Posted by: Phil_B || 11/11/2003 16:24 Comments || Top||

#18  I'm just laughing at the constant refrain that the Republicans are the party of the rich when date for the last few years indicates that Republicans are getting lots of small donations (which is why McCain Feingold isn't hurting Bush) and hte Democrats depend on a few very large doners (which is why McCain Feingold is crippling them).

The Democrats are the party of the rich/elitists who will do your thinking for you dumb poor people thank you very much. I think the American people are figuring that out.
Posted by: Yank || 11/11/2003 16:26 Comments || Top||

#19  "It is the central focus of my life," Soros said, the drug-legalization advocate's blue eyes staring blankly into the middle distance. "Duuudes, Bush is, like, harshing my mellow, and I'm hungry."
Posted by: Mike || 11/11/2003 19:14 Comments || Top||

#20  "And I’m willing to put my money where my mouth is."

-probably need to take your foot out first.

Soros said he had been waking at 3 a.m., his thoughts shaking him "like an alarm clock."

-The first symptoms of megalomania. At 5:15 a.m the delusions of grandeur start.......

"committed up to $5 million to MoveOn.org, a liberal activist group,"

-hope he kept a receipt.
Posted by: Jarhead || 11/11/2003 21:34 Comments || Top||

#21  Which party is the party for the rich again?

Aw, c'mon Yank. The Dems get their donations from working families scattered across the US... from Malibu to the Hamptons!
Posted by: eLarson || 11/11/2003 22:44 Comments || Top||


AP: ’Lost’ Radioactive Matter Poses Risk
EFL.
Federal investigators have documented 1,300 cases of lost, stolen or abandoned radioactive material inside the United States over the past five years and have concluded there is a significant risk that terrorists could cobble enough together for a dirty bomb. Studies by the Energy Department’s Los Alamos laboratory and the General Accounting Office found significant holes in the nation’s security net that could take years to close, even after improvements by regulators since Sept. 11, 2001. "The world of radiological sources developed prior to recent concerns about terrorism, and many of the sources are either unsecured or provided, at best, with an industrial level of security," the Los Alamos lab concluded two months ago in a report that was reviewed by The Associated Press. The report concludes that the threat of a so-called dirty bomb that could disperse radiological materials across a wide area "appears to be very significant, and there is no shortage of radioactive materials that could be used." Security improvements under way "are unlikely to significantly alter the global risk picture for a few years," it added.
Wonderfully reassuring.
The FBI repeatedly has warned law enforcement over the past year that al-Qaida was interested in obtaining radiological materials and creating a dispersal bomb, most recently after authorities received an uncorroborated report a few weeks ago that al-Qaida might be seeking material from a Canadian source. Nuclear Regulatory Commission spokeswoman Beth Hayden said the agency recognizes the potential dangers of such materials and al-Qaida’s interest in them - "there are millions of sources," she said. But she added most of the 1,300 lost radiological sources were subsequently recovered and the public should keep the threat in perspective. "The ones that have been lost and not recovered, I’m told, if you put them all together, it would not add up to one highly radioactive source," Hayden said. "These are low-level sources."
"Why, there’s just barely enough to cause mass panic across the whole country!"
The Los Alamos analysis specifically cited concerns about the transportation of large shipments of radioactive cobalt from industrial sites, as well as lax security at hospitals that use radiological devices to treat and diagnose patients. NRC Commissioner Edward McGaffigan Jr. said the GAO concerns were overstated, focusing on materials with extremely low level radioactivity. He said his agency has been taking steps for months to more securely ship and store high-risk sources. "We honestly think we are doing a very aggressive and excellent job in this area, but we have obviously more to do," McGaffigan said in an interview. "Our view is we don’t want to lose any of them, and we are going to have cradle-to-grave controls as soon as we possibly can for high-risk sources."
Today would be nice.
The congressional investigation for the first time tallied the number of times sealed radiological materials have been lost, misplaced or stolen. They found more than 1,300 instances inside the United States since 1998. While most have been recovered, the report cited a handful of harrowing, unsolved losses. For instance, in March 1999, an industrial radiography camera containing iridium-192 was stolen from a Florida home. The camera has not been recovered despite an investigation by the FBI. The NRC believes the material should have degraded by now and would no longer be useful for a bomb.
Let’s not count on natural decay, ok boys?
The GAO and Los Alamos security reviews made several recommendations. They include keeping licensed sources from getting radiological materials until after they are inspected, improving structural security at high-risk locations and working with federal, state and international regulators to toughen controls.
There’s a WoT out there, folks, let’s get on with this. I am NOT going to be too forgiving if some gummint beaurocrat screws up and al-Q gets ahold of some cesium-137.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/11/2003 12:22:06 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This is a load of shineola. Most of the "sources" are measured in grams, and what? 32 grams make an ounce? Tiny amounts are missing, not the pounds that would be needed for a dirty bomb.

And, as I've said on my blog repeatedly, if you don't get blown up by a dirty bomb, take a shower and you'll be fine. It's a complete non threat.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/11/2003 8:22 Comments || Top||

#2  Not enough information here to make a really tight assessment. What's missing, in what quantity? What's the half-life? What's the normal use for this material?

One of the biggest problems (sorry, Steve, but true) is with hospitals, who are so committed to working to save lives, they think they won't be a target - of theft, of mischief in any form, or of actual explosions and other harmful activities. EVERYBODY, EVERYWHERE, WHO ISN'T A WAHABI MUSLIM, IN LOCK-STEP WITH AL QAIDA, IS A TARGET. Read that again, three times. That DOES mean "you".

Security starts at the personal level. It requires the attention of each individual. There are no "unimportant" links in the chain (God, how many times was that beaten into my head in the military?). Laxness in security should result in an automatic pink slip. Instead, what we'll probably get is a load of bull, a few hand-slaps, and one day, in the not-too-distant future, another 9/11.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 11/11/2003 11:14 Comments || Top||

#3  I'm with Chuck on this one. Unless you actually get radioactive shrapnel in you or get blown up, it's basically a non-problem.
Posted by: Kathy K || 11/11/2003 13:58 Comments || Top||

#4  You can count on natural decay as much as you can count on gravity, Steve. Otherwise, we may as well sign Kyoto.
Posted by: Ptah || 11/11/2003 15:18 Comments || Top||

#5  Okay, boys, I'll rise to my own defense :-)

I do count on natural decay as a fundamental physical principle, but I'd prefer that our security people try to stop these thefts rather than hoping the stuff decays first.

OP: hospitals -- you are correct, and I shudder to think what security is at my hospital. And yes, we're all required to look after our own security.

Chuck: 28.5 gm (approximately) make an ounce. Yes, small amounts of beta-emitters aren't a problem. Gamma emitters are more of a problem, and there are ways to accumulate the stuff. Take what OP said -- just steal a small amount from a hundred hospitals, and all of a sudden you have a large amount.

Further, while taking a shower solves a fair percentage of radiation exposures, it WON'T solve the panic of the first couple of days after a radiological bomb is used. That's what the al-Q douche-bags are counting on, and that's why lax security has to be tightened up.

I suspect we're all in violent agreement :-)
Posted by: Steve White || 11/11/2003 15:55 Comments || Top||

#6  I wouldn't take the threat of a dirty bomb lightly. I have seen comments that if you are not directly in the blast zone you have nothing to worry about. While this is true, unless terrorists managed to blow up pounds of radioactive material on an especially windy day, the pychological affect would be devasting. Imagine one going off in Downtown LA or Manhattan. The ecomomic impact could be greater than 9-11. Ther area would be percieved as off limits for years to come.
Posted by: Dan || 11/11/2003 16:17 Comments || Top||

#7  I'm not worried about the blast or the radiation, I'm worried about the traffic.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/11/2003 19:05 Comments || Top||

#8  There are a couple of thousand ways to cause immense harm to a large number of people. What worries me more than anything is that our security people will miss one, and A-Q won't.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 11/11/2003 22:25 Comments || Top||

#9  Um, just to add here (and this is a rhetorical question so DON'T give me specifics please), assuming you manage to take say 1-5 ounces from each incident at the least, then you're talking anywhere from between 37 kilos to 185 kilos of radioactive material (as a conservative estimate) being missing. I'm not sure how much radioactive material a dirty bomb needs for causing more damage/radioactivity levels that would seal off more than a city block, but I suspect it would have to be much more than that. On the other hand...I don't like the idea of the stuff missing and possibly contanminating certain things such as water, it doesn't afterall take much plutonium to poison a large body of water.
Posted by: Val || 11/11/2003 23:03 Comments || Top||



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