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Afghanistan
U.N. announces Afghan disarmament program
Officials announced a landmark program Sunday to disarm, demobilize and reintegrate an estimated 100,000 fighters across Afghanistan over the next three years. The U.N.-sponsored program with start in July and last up to 500 three years, the government said. Members of the new national army and private Afghan citizens who keep weapons to protect themselves would not be disarmed, said Lakhdar Brahimi, the U.N. special envoy to Afghanistan. "It is ... the tanks, the cannons, that are in the hands of the factional armies that you want to take away," he said. U.N. mission spokesman Manoel de Almeida e Silva said the program will help ensure that former fighters reintegrate into civilian life. It will also provide them with vocational training, employment opportunities and access to credit. Others will be given the chance to apply for positions in the national army.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 04/06/2003 04:38 pm || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I remember reading a report a few months ago that Pakland was going to donate weapons to afghan government. Surely this like exporting sand to the Middle East.
Posted by: rg117 || 04/06/2003 16:54 Comments || Top||

#2  Oh god this is the last thing the Afghanis needed, the UN to come in a #%^! everything up while they're still trying to rebuild. Haven't they suffered enough?
Posted by: g wiz || 04/06/2003 17:29 Comments || Top||

#3  Essentially, they want to eliminate our equivalent of state militias, while supposedly preserving a form of Second Amendment rights for private citizens . I would worry the moment they want to disarm private citizens also.
Posted by: Ptah || 04/06/2003 18:08 Comments || Top||

#4  Obviously, no one in the United Nations asked the Afghani people if they wanted this - the UN just 'decided' it was necessary and said they were going to do it. I can see the deaths of hundreds of UN envoys to Afghanistan who try to actually implement this program. Don't these people ever stop and think? One more reason to pull the plug on the United Nations, and fumigate the place after the last rat has gone home.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/06/2003 19:17 Comments || Top||

#5  Another job for Hans Blix?? ;)
Posted by: Former Russian Major || 04/06/2003 21:13 Comments || Top||

#6  guys, guys,

1. The UN has been working well with the Karzai govt (and the US) in afghan since the Bonn agreement - this isnt Iraq - the politics are very different here
2. I doubt very much that this initiative was launched without approval of the Karzai govt - this is a direction theyve been trying to go for some time.
3. The militias are hardly the equivalent of our state national guards - they are effectively private armies, which are larger and stronger than the national army.
4. Leaving small arms in the hands of private citizens is simply realism - this is one of the most heavily armed societies in the world - they simply want to make sure no one is strong enough to overthrow the central govt, or to prevent the central govt from collecting customs duties and appointing officials (note that in theory the central govt appoints provincial governors, though in cases where the local warlord has a huge conventional army the govt has little choice but to accept the warlord's selection for governor.


I fear the Iraq situation, and associated anti-UN rhetoric (justified in that case) is making it harder for us to intelligently discuss afganistan.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 04/07/2003 8:22 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Yemen seizes al-Qaeda suspect
The Yemeni authorities have arrested a man suspected by the US Federal Bureau of Investigation of being a member of the al-Qaeda network. Fawaz Yahya al-Rabeei - a Yemeni national thought to have been born to Yemeni parents in Saudi Arabia - was one of several men named in an alert by the FBI last year over attacks al-Qaeda were suspected of planning against US interests in Yemen. He and at least one other man were arrested last month in a large-scale search operation backed by helicopters in the northern province of Marib, 160 kilometres (100 miles) north-east of the capital Sanaa, government and police sources said. Another man arrested is suspected of involvement in a November attack on a helicopter belonging to US company Hunt Oil shortly after it took off from Sanaa airport, in which one US man was slightly injured. The FBI had issued an alert on Mr al-Rabeei based on intelligence gathered from al-Qaeda operatives and members of Afghanistan's former Taleban Government currently in US detention in Guantanamo Bay in Cuba.
It's good that they keep rounding them up even when attention is focused elsewhere
Posted by: Paul Moloney || 04/06/2003 04:33 am || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Shoot, they're panicing over Iraq...

"Look, we're doing our part to round these guys up -- and uh, do you think we can forget about that whole Cole thing???"
Posted by: Steve || 04/06/2003 8:13 Comments || Top||

#2  They're watching the progress through the "elite" (heh heh) Republican Guards amd quickly calculating how long it would take to do the same in their hellhole country..probably would finish before lunch
Posted by: Frank G || 04/06/2003 11:42 Comments || Top||

#3  Yemen must some weird place. Here in Saudi I'm USED to two (or three) faced behavior by these paragons of the Religion of Peace, but Yemen is truly one schizo environ, methinks.

There must some kind of special deal between the CIA & Fibbies and their Yemeni counterparts, cuz the Gov't is often bristly with us and the populace is, well, demented. I'm not complaining, cuz they keep coming up with guys...

Of course, he COULD be a "throw away" - someone they can give up cuz he's served his purpose or became unreliable - or whatever. I hate to be a cynic, but it's pretty hard to make sense out of what happens down there at the far end of the litterbox.
Posted by: PD || 04/06/2003 16:02 Comments || Top||

#4  PD, it's the qat they're chewing.
Posted by: RW || 04/06/2003 16:32 Comments || Top||

#5  RW- I recalled a story a few years ago that qat is a big drug in Iraq too. It is only potent when the leaves are fresh, and it gets (got) flown in daily from some African country.
Posted by: Craig || 04/06/2003 17:05 Comments || Top||

#6  flown in? the only deliveries lately have tail fins and GPS locators
Posted by: Frank G || 04/06/2003 17:19 Comments || Top||

#7  RW: Mmmmmm Good!
Frank G: Now you can add Special Forces - to Baghdad Int'l Airport.
Posted by: PD || 04/06/2003 23:19 Comments || Top||


Britain
Galloway to get the boot?
Anti-war MP George Galloway has vowed to fight any move by the Labour party to expel him. The backbench rebel says Tony Blair would be making a mockery of democracy if he tried to oust him. The Labour party is reportedly planning to withdraw the party whip from Mr Galloway, dubbed the 'Member for Baghdad Central', so he will no longer be regarded as an MP. This would be followed by disciplinary measures and suspension likely to lead to a full expulsion from the party, Labour sources said.
Then all they'll have to do is scrub the seat where he used to sit...
Mr Galloway, who last week branded allied leaders wolves, said it was his duty to speak out against the war. He also denied being a traitor, and said millions of people across the UK backed his stance. The member for Glasgow Kelvin said: "Mr Blair would be making a big mistake if he did proceed down this road. As a Labour party man with 35 years of membership - much longer than Mr Blair - I would fight it every inch of the way. I am not without support in the country, not least within the Muslim community, which feels virtually powerless and almost voiceless amidst this catastrophe in Iraq. And it would send the message that Mr Blair wants free speech in Baghdad, but not in the British Parliament."
Perhaps he should stand for the Muslim seat in Parliament?
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 04/06/2003 07:00 pm || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  He's a goner. I think we can expect his "mother of all battles" to follow the typical course - retreat, surrender or going down in a burst of flames.
Posted by: becky || 04/06/2003 21:11 Comments || Top||


Galloway retreats
A woman tortured in Iraq tried in vain last week to meet the MP who has praised the Baghdad dictator. "I am very suspicious of you," George Galloway hissed down the phone to Freshta Raper, a 37-year-old exile and mother of one. "I have a gut feeling about you. What do you want to ask me?"

Mrs Raper had spent much of the week trying to catch up with the Left-wing Labour MP to discuss his anti-war pro-Saddam stance. The last 48 hours had, in particular, been frustrating as the MP assiduously avoided her efforts to speak to him.

She turned her sights on Mr Galloway last week when the MP called on British troops not to fight and urged Arab leaders to "stand by the Iraqi people". He described Tony Blair and George Bush as "wolves" and said: "The soldiers are lions led by donkeys, sent to kill and be killed."

Mrs Raper was keen to make him hear her views. Despite his many appearances on anti-war platforms and in the media, however, the Labour MP for Glasgow Kelvin was elusive. Mr Galloway refused to meet Mrs Raper when she initially asked, through The Telegraph, if he would agree to a formal interview to discuss Saddam's treatment of the Kurds. So, like all good activists, she went to his Westminster office to question him informally. Mr Galloway ducked down into an underground passage when he saw her waiting and drove off in his Mercedes.

Mrs Raper tried another tack. She went to visit him at his three-storey house in south London. Mr Galloway didn't answer her taps on the door, although his car was parked in the driveway. Through his front window his love of Iraqi artefacts were plainly visible - a large urn encircled with Koranic inscriptions took pride of place in the fireplace; his hookah pipe stood, recently used, next to the large sofa.

Finally, he answered his home telephone. She said that yes, she could provide proof that she was Iraqi, and he finally agreed to a meeting. "OK, come to my office on Monday," he said, before adding: "On second thoughts, don't."

Mr Galloway supports direct action such as marches on Number 10 or the US embassy, although his view is very different when it is his stance that is under scrutiny. "What do you want to talk to me about?" he barked.

"I just want to ask you about Saddam Hussein's human rights record," said Mrs Raper. "As a Western politician, have you ever tried to discuss this in Iraq?"

"I don't have to answer that question," said Mr Galloway defiantly, before adding: "Don't you dare contact me again. If you go to my house again I will have you thrown out and call the police." The line went dead as Mr Galloway hung up.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 04/06/2003 06:30 pm || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Publicize his cowardice as much as possible. It's exactly like a kid holding his hands over his ears, saying: " I can't hear you. la la la la"
nice tactic by an MP?... as long as he's 5 years old....after that it's cowardice
Posted by: Frank G || 04/06/2003 18:36 Comments || Top||

#2  "Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up". What a dolt. I pity Tony Blair and the British people, who actually have to put up with that idiot.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/06/2003 19:23 Comments || Top||

#3  I'm sure he'll go kicking and screaming, but I hope they can bounce him.
Posted by: Fred || 04/06/2003 21:03 Comments || Top||

#4  Wonder what he was smoking in his "recently used" hookah? Qat?
Posted by: Former Russian Major || 04/06/2003 21:32 Comments || Top||

#5  Remember that some of the best hasish in the world comes from the ME.Talk about pipe-dreams.
Posted by: raptor || 04/07/2003 7:01 Comments || Top||

#6  Best thing to do:
Send hundreds of riot police to protect Mr. Galloways residence, have their spokesman announce: We wont tolerate demonstrations.

Who says irony is dead?
Posted by: liberalhawk || 04/07/2003 8:26 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Pakistani scientists helped Al Qaeda build nukes: US experts
For the first time, serious indicators have emerged that two Pakistani nuclear scientists were helping Al Qaeda build nuclear weapons, according to a top American expert. "Al Qaeda wanted the Pakistani scientists' help in making radiological dispersal devices... [Pakistani nuclear scientist Sultan Bashir-ud-din] Mahmood and his colleagues appear to have provided Al Qaeda a road map to building nuclear weapons," David Albright, President of Washington-based Institute for Science and International Security, said in a recent paper.
But Surely Not. After all they are an ally in the war against terror.
Posted by: rg117 || 04/06/2003 10:49 am || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Found this link to go with it:
http://www.isis-online.org/publications/terrorism/index.html
Posted by: rg117 || 04/06/2003 10:53 Comments || Top||

#2  Isn't religion a beautiful thing?

At the heart of this is, as always, Islam. These asswipes actually find no problem with aiding any Muslim group in building a nuke. They know that the US / the West will be the target. The Pakistani "Gov't" can't even control its own territory. And, given their recent dealings with N Korea, and other blantant similar acts - all in defiance of their treaty obligations and despite lame reassurances to the US as our putative allies, it's clear that Pakistan MUST be put into the proper category: Terrorist State.

When will the US treat them as such?

Regards Pakistan, I only see one question left:

Do we wait for Al Qaeda (or whomever) to use a nuke on one of the Western countries, or do we go ahead and turn Pakistan into a smoking hole for being the source of their expertise, if not fissile material?

Some truly terrible things are coming down the road - and they're not far away. N Korea, Iran, Syria, Pakistan, France, Russia, Germany, Indonesia, Phillipines, Yemen, and several insane places in Africa (Can you say Miss Universe?)... It could be 20-30 years before we'll feel that old feeling of security, again. Makes you long for the good old days of the Cold War and MAD deterrence. Sigh.

So, enough self-pity, after Iraq, where do we begin? Time's a wastin'. Iran will probably take care of itself in the next 3-5 years - the black hats are mishandling just about everything they touch, domestically. Lessee...

Syria is geographically convenient, not to mention rather stupid... And it's a 2-fer! You get Lebanon as a bonus! Hard to pass up a good bargain.
Posted by: PD || 04/06/2003 16:27 Comments || Top||

#3  Agreed Fred - I just see bad things happening in Iran between the mullahs and the people - they'll be desperate to defer the attention externally
Posted by: Frank G || 04/06/2003 18:29 Comments || Top||

#4  The solution of this whole problem is the invention of a workable time machine. I these assh***s want to live in the Freaking Seventh Century then we should have the means to do send them there. We win. They win. And everyone can get on with their lives, playing with their kids, chasing the old lady whatever
Posted by: Someone who did NOT vote for William Proxmire || 04/06/2003 21:32 Comments || Top||


Pak expert for trial of Bush, Blair
A former Pakistani secretary of foreign affairs, Mohammad Akram Zaki, on Sunday demanded trial of the American president and the British prime minister for war crimes in Iraq. During an interview with IRNA, the seasoned analyst accused US President George W. Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair of committing war crimes against humanity. "In principle, there should be trial of these two people in the International Court of Justice as they are the killers of innocent people in Iraq without any legal or moral justification," Zaki firmly said. "Of course, at present they are crazy with their military might, but the day will come when the international community will rise to demand that Bush and Blair be tried for war crimes. What the US-led forces are resorting to in Iraq, a country that has already suffered so much from sanctions imposed over the last 12 years, is to subject innocent Iraqi men, women and children to more suffering," the analyst said. He blasted the so-called superpower for using its military superiority to destroy a weak and defenseless nation.
Nope. No doubt as to which side he's on...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 04/06/2003 10:15 am || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/04/03/sprj.irq.basra.food.complex/
"BASRA, Iraq (CNN) -- A giant food distribution complex seized Wednesday by U.S. and British forces in this city grappling with hunger contained massive amounts of food.

A walk through only about 20 percent of the warehouses in the complex revealed that tens of thousands of tons of supplies -- including huge quantities of baby milk -- were being stored in Iraq's second-largest city, which has been wracked by a food shortage.

There are vast amounts of food staples, tea, sugar, tires, car batteries and sewing machines in the warehouses."

Now, explain to me about the food shortages caused by the UN sanctions?
Posted by: Don || 04/06/2003 11:56 Comments || Top||

#2  Lies! All Lies!
Posted by: RW || 04/06/2003 14:57 Comments || Top||

#3  Now, explain to me about the food shortages caused by the UN sanctions?
But surely this just a conspiracy by the west to provide an excuse to attack Iraq. Just like 911 was carried out by the CIA and MOSSAD bombs its own citizens and the Indian Intelligence agency kill their own hindus in kashmir. Its all just an excuse to attack the peaceful and tolerant oppressed muslims of the world
Posted by: rg117 || 04/06/2003 16:49 Comments || Top||

#4  "...demanded trial of the American president and the British prime minister for war crimes in Iraq."

Yeah, right pal. That'll happen. Hold your breath, why don't you?...
Posted by: mojo || 04/06/2003 18:38 Comments || Top||


India to Test Nuclear-Capable Missile
India said Sunday it will test-fire a long-range missile that experts say could deliver a nuclear weapon as far as Moscow or Shanghai.
I don't think Moscow is on the target list, but I wonder if the Chinese have a queasy feeling in their stomachs.
The United States and other western countries had urged India to abandon development of the Agni III missile, saying they are worried about an escalating nuclear arms race between India and its archrival, Pakistan. ``The test firing of Agni III is overdue and we feel the need for that long-range missile as part of our policy of deterrence,'' Defense Minister George Fernandes was quoted as saying by the Press Trust of India news agency. ``The date has not been firmed up. (The) effort is to see that it is test fired this year,'' he was quoted as saying. India says it needs the missiles to defend itself against its neighboring rivals, Pakistan in the west and China in the north - both of which have waged war with India in the past. Fernandes also said that India had put on hold the development of the ``Trishul,'' a surface-to-air missile that would target aircraft and counter sea-skimming missiles.
Wonder why? Sounds like something the Indians would want.
The current versions of the Agni - I and II - are being produced and are ready for deployment by India's armed forces, Fernandes said. Both are capable of carrying nuclear warheads. The Agni I has a range of 435 miles, and the Agni II has a range of up to 1,400 miles, capable of hitting targets anywhere in Pakistan and deep into China. Development of the Agni III reportedly began as early as 1999, according to the Federation of American Scientists, an arms control watchdog group. The group said the missile likely has a range of 2,100 miles. India's missile arsenal also includes the short-range ballistic missile Prithvi with a range of 95 miles; the surface-to-air Akash and the anti-tank Nag missile. India has also recently tested the supersonic Brahmos missile, also capable of hitting Pakistani cities and developed in a joint program with Russia.
Sounds like they have everything covered.
``Apart from Agni and Prithvi, (the) supersonic cruise missile Brahmos is something exclusive. Nobody else has this missile today,'' Fernandes said. ``We are ready now (for deployment). All tests are complete.'' The Brahmos has a range of 185 miles and has a payload of 440 pounds but cannot carry a nuclear warhead. It flies at more than 1,400 mph, twice the speed of sound, and has three versions - ground-to-air, air-to-ground and a navy version.
The US doesn't have a Brahmos, but we do have this thing called a Tomahawk. It's not supersonic, but it doesn't need to be. Ya might want to remember that.
India conducted its first nuclear test in 1974. Its nuclear tests in 1998 caused international outrage and provoked economic sanctions by the United States and other Western nations. Pakistan followed suit with nuclear tests of its own. Western nations gradually lifted sanctions against both India and Pakistan as the two countries became allies in the international campaign against the al-Qaida terror network and the Taliban militia in Afghanistan.
But neither India nor Pakistan ever stopped their weapons development. It's missile tests like these that should remind us that south Asia isn't going to be a stable place.
Posted by: Steve White || 04/06/2003 02:02 am || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Here is a pretty good site about India's missile program, which seems to be the only indigenous military development program of India's that has progressed very well, in contrast to it's plans to develop a battle tank, attack helicopter and nuclear submarine that all have experinced problems and delays over many years.
Posted by: Paul Moloney || 04/06/2003 4:23 Comments || Top||

#2  The US doesn't have a Brahmos, but we do have this thing called a Tomahawk. It's not supersonic, but it doesn't need to be. Ya might want to remember that.
TRUE. But Tomahawk is a Land Attack Missile, Brahmos is mainly an anti-ship missile. Being supersonic gives a much higher kill rate because ship counter-measures have less time to react to it.
Posted by: rg117 || 04/06/2003 6:23 Comments || Top||

#3  If India stopped developing and weapons would not mean that pakistan would too. Pakistan is being armed by N.Korea and China (and US) and this would continue happen regardless of what India did. During the India-Pak border war at Kargil 1998, China provided Pakland with a large number of weapons and spare parts. China likes to fight a proxy war with India through Pakland.
To make things worse, defense equipment that has been sold to China usually gets reverse engineered and sold on to Pakland [China supplying Israeli UAVs to Pak: Israeli expert]
We all know that sooner or later Pakland is going to tip over and the Jihadis will get control, including its nuclear arsenal. It may happen in decades rather than days or years, but India has to be prepared for that moment.
Posted by: rg117 || 04/06/2003 17:05 Comments || Top||


Iraq
Suicide bomber who surrendered
As he got closer to the troops they warily fixed their gun barrels on the shuffling figure in front of them. Holding his hands in the air he shouted out in English: "Please, please. Surrender, surrender." As I watched the man, in his 60s and dressed in flowing robes and head dress, he looked like just another frightened Iraqi trying to give himself up to the British. Then he dropped six grenades on the floor. All hell broke loose as I, and dozens of others in the area, dived for cover.
"Yo! Fisk! Loan us a couple of those loo rolls!"
For a few seconds it was still - the grenades hadn't gone off, the pins remained intact. All that could be heard were the gentle moanings of the Iraqi man, repeating the words "Surrender, surrender."
Uhhh... Okay.
British sentries on the roof of a nearby building shouted at him to get on his knees. As he lay on the ground members of 40 Commando ran over and seized him, stripping off his clothes and checking for more weapons. He was then arrested and led away for questioning.
Naked as an egg. Prob'ly a war crime in there someplace...
Later the fisherman's tragic story emerged. He told Marine commanders how he had been forced at gunpoint by Fedayeen militia to stage a suicide attack against their base. Living alone, and with no family, they had deemed him a perfect choice to carry out their attack. "The [Fedayeen] special operations team said I had three choices, they kill me, the British kill me, or I kill myself," the man, who wished only to be identified as Abdullah, said.
Just a resource, available for disposal by the tough guys...
Last night members of 40 Commando were understood to be carrying out an operation in the city to pinpoint the militia responsible. The unit's commanding officer, Colonel Gordon Messenger, said "We now have good intelligence on the group behind this attempted attack. "We also believe they are the men who attacked our base three days ago. They are hiding locally, and we hope to track them down very shortly."
"An arrest is expected momentarily."
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 04/06/2003 06:22 pm || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:


Saddam, fortunately, has no Waffen SS
The Telegraph notices the difference between bombast and performance. Heh heh...
Whatever policy the Americans pursue for Saddam's capital, his supporters are obviously incapable of mounting a coherent defence through the streets, on 1945 Berlin lines. To achieve that, one needs fanatics with the military skills of the Waffen SS, and there are none in Saddam's forces.

They have shown themselves fantasists of a kind familiar in the service of tyrants: masters of bombast, more comfortable in the torture chamber than on the battlefield.

The Allies take seriously the guerrilla threat that could be posed by some hundreds of would-be fighters who have been filtering into the country from Syria and to a lesser extent from Iran. But this is a problem for the security of Allied-occupied Iraq, rather than a danger to victory.

This war has provided yet another lesson on the chasm between a Western culture that means what it says, and a culture extravagant in the use of words, such as that which pervades most of the Arab world.

The Americans and British are literal-minded people. We encounter difficulties in diplomacy with the Irish or the Spanish or the Chinese, never mind the Iraqis, because other societies possess a different attitude to verbiage.

Before the war, many Western pundits found it difficult to believe that Saddam's people could deliver so many blood-curdling threats, without having some practical notion about how to implement them. Yet this week, few Iraqi units have stayed around to fight the Americans, and those that did so have been easily eliminated.
Not to restate every theme I've ever mentioned, but the difference between saying and doing is a factor we will have to keep in mind in the coming years when we're dealing with other Arab and Muslim countries and organizations. The standards of truth aren't the same between the two cultures; the qualities that are revered aren't the same. Empathy isn't an Islamic virtue. Altruism doesn't exist. Gratitude is transient. As I've mentioned on a number of occasions, cause is usually not equated with effect.

Chivalry never arose in the Islamic world, so there's no cultural tradition for the strong to be gentle with the weak, merciful, or even humane. Women in the west complain about the way they're treated, but it's rooted in that chivalric tradition. We men open doors for them, we're supposed to protect them and take care of them. It's a cultural obligation, and when it's violated it's noticeable. Islamists keep women under wraps, literally, and expect the ladies to walk three paces behind them, also literally.

That penchant for bombast is what makes the Muslim world particularly susceptible to confusing guys with guns with soldiers. It's easy to buy a nifty uniform and strut around and make faces. There's comfort in being in a crowd, all doing the same thing. It makes you feel powerful, part of something greater than yourself, an irresistable force. The same thing carries over into the idea of the ummah, and it explains the peculiar liking in that part of the world for varieties of fascism — remember the imagery of the bundled fasces, each reed slender and breakable in itself, the whole, bound together (in this case by the party or by the Koran) and unbreakable.

It's when the massed forces of whomever's making faces and shooting guns come up against the immovable object of the west that the disillusionment sets in. The binding — belief — on the fasces breaks abruptly. Suddenly it's a bunch of individual reeds who're being picked off by .50s from Abrams tanks. Illusion meets reality and things end pretty quickly. The guys in the pretty uniforms melt away.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 04/06/2003 05:52 pm || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  *salutes Fred* well put! My only addition is that their religion permits lying if it is to deceive the infidel.
Posted by: Ptah || 04/07/2003 9:52 Comments || Top||

#2  "It's easy to buy a nifty uniform and strut around and make faces. There's comfort in being in a crowd, all doing the same thing. It makes you feel powerful, part of something greater than yourself, an irresistable force"

Are you sure you aren't talking about the socialist hate-America anti-war protestors?

The socialist left never felt so popular.

The antidote is one non-threatening hippie-type female with a megaphone shouting some sense at them, they become confused, they don't know who to follow.
Posted by: anon1 || 04/06/2003 22:46 Comments || Top||

#3  *salutes Fred* well put! My only addition is that their religion permits lying if it is to deceive the infidel.
Posted by: Ptah || 04/07/2003 9:52 Comments || Top||


Deadly chemicals are found dumped in river
Mustard gas and cyanide have been found in river water in the Iraqi city of Nasiriyah, coalition forces said yesterday. The poisonous substances are believed to have been dumped in the Euphrates either by Iraqi soldiers fleeing from American troops or local factories that produced weapons of mass destruction. A spokesman for the United States marines, based just outside the city, described the quantities of chemical agents found as "significant" and claimed that it was further evidence that Saddam Hussein has produced weapons of mass destruction. The poisons were discovered by the marines' scientists who were testing the quality of water taken from the Euphrates before purifying it and distributing it to the residents of Nasiriyah, a city of 250,000 people.
"Damn, Maudette! This tea's got some kick to it! What kind is it?... Maudette?"
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 04/06/2003 05:08 pm || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  or to poison the water supply? lucky we test it before handing it out
Posted by: anon1 || 04/06/2003 23:01 Comments || Top||


Saddam fled Baghdad 3 days ago: Ex-aide
Definite grain of salt called for with this one...
As US Forces tightened their grip on Baghdad, Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, along with his two sons, fled the capital three days ago for his home town of Tikrit, 175 km to the north, media reports said. "I have been informed that once he had firm evidence that the Americans were closing in on Baghdad, he fled to his home town of Tikrit," claimed Haitham Rashid Wihaib, Saddam's former Chief of Protocol in The Mail. The dictator who used to being ferried around in a vast fleet of heavily armoured Mercedes left by way of anonymous taxis and battered pick up trucks in a convoy which would have looked like any other group of fleeing Iraqis. "He has taken his two sons Uday and Qusay, and a handful of key advisors still loyal to him. In Baghdad, each local commander has been told to act as he sees fit," Wihaib said.
Ah, the old "I'm gonna go get help!" trick...
Wihaib, who claims to have spent nearly 20 years working for Saddam, said he also got to know Saddam's doubles. "And the Saddam Hussein we saw shaking the hands of his subjects in that extraordinary walkabout on Friday, was definitely a doppelganger, thinner than the real thing and without his rolling walk. This was a stunt ordered by his son Qusay in an attempt to convince the Allies that Saddam was still in Baghdad and a last ditch bid to show the Iraqi people their leader was brave and prepared to fight from the capital. But Saddam is not brave. He is mad and desperate and, unlike them, is readying himself for exile."
I tend to believe that statement. Sammy's nowhere to be found, then suddenly appears twice in a day, on a city street, around people with guns. That's usually the kind of job a dictator likes to contract out...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 04/06/2003 05:02 pm || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Maybe this guy owes money to someone in Tikrit? Easy way to get out of a debt..he he
Posted by: Frank G || 04/06/2003 17:18 Comments || Top||

#2  I'm actually hoping that Saddam will bail out for Syria.This war has made him an unlikely hero among the Arab world.A cowardly exile for Saddam would deflate them more than a 'martyrdom' death.
Posted by: El Id || 04/06/2003 17:39 Comments || Top||

#3  If true than all the better as Tikrit is a much smaller town. But doubtful, since the voyage would be too risky. The "Saddam in the streets" video is not of him, as sure as the Pope is Catholic. He's hunkered down in his bunker somewhere in Baghdad. If he was in Syria, the CIA would know about it. Iraq was under tight surveillance even before Chiraq could say Je capitule.
Posted by: RW || 04/06/2003 17:58 Comments || Top||


US forces encircle Baghdad; land plane at city’s airport
Edited for brevity, on topic
A US military cargo plane landed at Baghdad's international airport late Sunday, the first known US aircraft to arrive in the Iraqi capital, the US Central Command said. Navy Lt. Mark Kitchens, a Central Command spokesman, confirmed the C-130 cargo and transport aircraft had landed at the airport but gave no details, citing operational security. US forces say they have effective control over the airport, despite sporadic attacks including one Sunday against the 101st Airborne Division that left two Iraqis dead.
What was that the Iraqi Liar Information Minister said?...
Posted by: Frank G || 04/06/2003 03:08 pm || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  THE INTENSE COUNTER ATTACKS AGAINST THE FORIEGN MERCANARIES RESULTED IN THEIR CALLING IN OF AIR SUPPORT ON THE PART OF AN UNARMED TRANSPORT AIRCRAFT WHO BY THE GRACE OF GOD WAS ALLOWED TO GO UNHINDERED AND PROCIDED TO AIR LIFT HUNDEREDS OF IRAQI FIGHTERS FROM THE WAR ZONE. As quoted from the Iraqi Disinformation Minister
Posted by: Someone who did NOT vote for William Proxmire || 04/06/2003 22:03 Comments || Top||

#2  I'm still waiting for the tour bus to the airport that Information minister offered yesterday. They must still be fitting the armour plating.
Posted by: leonidas || 04/06/2003 23:59 Comments || Top||

#3  Air support from an unarmed plane? WTF???

"Iraq Air flight 188 now boarding.....nonstop service for Tikrit...."
Posted by: Former Russian Major || 04/07/2003 0:11 Comments || Top||


Iraqi Kurdish Fighters Say Capture Northern Town
Iraqi Kurdish militia fighters said they captured the northern Iraqi town of Ain Sifni on Sunday after a battle with Iraqi forces. Babekir Zebari, commander of the Peshmerga fighters, said in the city of Dohuk that one Kurdish fighter had been killed and one wounded in the fighting for Ain Sifni, 28 miles northeast of Mosul. "We entered the town at seven o'clock (11 p.m. EDT). By nine o'clock we had the place under our control," he told Reuters in Dohuk, about 34 miles north of Mosul. The capture of Ain Sifni was another step toward securing control of the north from Iraqi forces. U.S. forces and the Peshmerga have been pushing toward the city of Mosul and the major oil center of Kirkuk, the main prize in the north. Zebari said Dohuk had come under artillery fire from Iraqi forces during the night. A suburb was hit but no one was hurt. "We aim to go only as far as we need to so that Dohuk is no longer within artillery range. Mosul is not our target," Zebari said by telephone.
"If the Turks weren't making faces it would be, though..."
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 04/06/2003 12:15 pm || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:


Aid Group: Allies Bomb Area Near Syria Border Camp
U.S.-led forces were bombing targets in Iraq close to a refugee camp near a Syrian-Iraqi border crossing, an International Organization for Migration official said on Sunday. The camp near the Bukmal border crossing is at the middle of the 375-mile border between the two countries, about 90 miles to the west from the Iraqi town of al-Haditha. "We hear lots of explosions and airplanes flying which means it's the allies. This is the first time we hear bombings in the morning, usually we hear them at night," IOM's Peter Salnikowski told Reuters from the Bukmal camp, hosting seven refugees.
Seven refugees? Why, they must be overwhelmed!
"We are moving them to another camp within an hour, they are very nervous," said Salnikowski of the camp population of one Iraqi and six third-country nationals. The refugees will be moved to al-Hol camp which was erected deeper into the Syrian territory during the 1990-91 Gulf crisis.
Wonder if this has anything to do with the SCUD launcher's appearance?
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 04/06/2003 12:14 pm || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Aid Group: Allies Bomb Area Near Syria Border Camp"

Allies to Aid Group: And your point.....?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 04/06/2003 17:01 Comments || Top||


Saddamjugend joins battle in Baghdad
Teenage Iraqis have said they are prepared to fight to the death to defend their city. Iraqi tanks, armoured personnel carriers and artillery have been deployed in the capital, some supported by young volunteers. Baghdad's heavy weapons are facing the western, southern and northern entrances that US forces are believed most likely to use. "I am not afraid to die," said 16-year-old Thamer Mekki.
Good thing, isn't it?
The fifth-former, interviewed wearing jeans and a T-shirt, said he learned how to shoot a gun at the age of 14. "I am doing this for my country," he added, standing guard in the upmarket Mansour district.
No doubt Mom will miss you...
The teenage volunteers are bolstered by some more seasoned fighters. During their first incursion into the city yesterday, the Americans came under intense fire from the Republican Guard. The Guard opened up with infantry small arms and rocket-propelled grenades. But they are also armed with T-72 tanks - a harder-hitting tank than the elderly T-55s and T-62s which have been encountered so far.
But they pop just about the same...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 04/06/2003 11:40 am || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ah, Spring Time in Berlin...err Baghdad and the Hitler Youth is out in force. BTW, the Hitler Youth, fighting in the last gasps of the Reich were known for killing seasoned German officers who were trying to surrender their men to the Allies.

Now remind me how the International Community[TM] was up in arms because the US wouldn't sign the international convention which prohibited 17 year olds to enlist. [Something about the Constitution giving Congress that power, which by Title 10 says "The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and under 45 years of age..."] Can we expect a similar volume of outrage here? No. Nothing registering on my volume meter.
Posted by: Don || 04/06/2003 12:07 Comments || Top||


Travel ban in Baghdad
Iraqi officials are imposing a 12-hour travel ban out of Baghdad every night from now. The ban will operate from 6pm to 6am local time. "It has been decided that there will be a ban on the movement of vehicles and people until further notice," an announcer said on state TV. Until the news of the ban, there had been a large number of people and cars moving out of Baghdad, even at night. Worn out by days of bombing, thousands of Iraqi civilians left the city yesterday. They trudged to relative safety behind US military lines or else headed north away from the American advance. Western news reporters watched the exodus. They said men, women and children walked for hours through the fierce heat of the day. Most were carrying nothing more than a plastic bag, blankets or kettle between them.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 04/06/2003 11:29 am || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:


U.S. Spots Missile Launcher in W. Iraq
The United States has spotted what appeared to be an Iraqi missile launcher near the Syrian border. U.S. intelligence sources said a Scud-class transporter erector launcher was seen in western Iraq near the Syrian border last week. The sources said the launcher was driven by truck from Syria, operated its radar system overnight and returned to Syria. "We are not sure what kind of launcher it was, but it appeared to be that for the Al Husseini medium-range missile," an intelligence source said. "The launcher came from and returned to Syria."
Is baby Assad really this stupid?
The Al Husseini has a range of 650 kilometers and was launched against Israel in the 1991 Gulf war. Iraq is said to have between 20 and 80 medium-range missiles in its arsenal
Posted by: Anonymous || 04/06/2003 11:07 am || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Capture video of it coming in before taking it out - a predator should be on this like a fly on s&*t. Assad may not be in control, but that's no reason to keep him low on the "next" list
Posted by: Frank G || 04/06/2003 11:35 Comments || Top||


2000 Iraqis killed on Baghdad sweep
I think he's in love...At least 2,000 Iraqis were killed when US troops swept through Baghdad on Saturday, US Central Command has said. The operation involved more than 30 tanks and armoured vehicles which entered the city from the southern outskirts. They encountered fierce resistance in some areas and suffered a number of casualties. The aim was to show Saddam Hussein that the city could be breached at any time, said one officer. US troops now hope to have Baghdad completely surrounded by the end of the day. A military spokesman said they have taken control of highways leading northwest and west out of Baghdad. The US Army was moving in from the south-west, while the US Marine Corps was approaching from the south-east. In addition, there are now 7,000 US soldiers at Baghdad International Airport, which was seized on Friday.

A claim by Iraq that it was recaptured after fierce fighting has been dismissed as "baseless" by the US military. Iraq's Information Minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf said 16 American tanks were destroyed or damaged and 50 soldiers killed in overnight skirmishes around the airport. "Republican Guards are still tightening the noose around the US enemy in the area," he said.
Yep. They've got us right where we want them...

FOLLOWUP: From New York Times/AP...

U.S. officials declared a near chokehold on the capital even while warning that many other parts of Iraq are not yet under allied control. ``They're pretty much cut off in all directions,'' Air Force Capt. Dani Burrows, speaking for Central Command, said of Baghdad's fighters.

While acknowledging Americans raided a suburb, Iraqi leaders talked bravely of prevailing. ``We were able to chop off their rotten heads,'' said a televised statement from the Iraq military, claiming victories no one could see. Iraqi information minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf warned Iraqis against false claims ``that the enemy has landed here or there,'' clearly referring to TV footage of coalition forces in Baghdad. Allied warplanes now are flying over Baghdad nonstop, using munitions that include concrete-filled bombs meant to damage fixed targets with less risk to civilian buildings nearby.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 04/06/2003 11:09 am || Comments || Link || [16 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The body count is astounding. Good hunting, boys! It does make one wonder, however, how Allah is keeping up with his end of the 72 Virgins Meal Deal. The logistics, not to mention the demographics, are hard to comprehend. I assume Allah's using WalMart's inventory expertise to help out.
Posted by: Ned || 04/06/2003 11:39 Comments || Top||

#2  It does make one wonder, however, how Allah is keeping up with his end of the 72 Virgins Meal Deal.

Hey, rabbits breed like, er.. rabbits! The Koran doesn't specify HUMAN virgins. Allah grants what Allah wishes...
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/06/2003 16:55 Comments || Top||

#3  Old Patriot:

That comment almost made fall backward out of my chair!

Certainly something to ponder for the would-be 'martyrs' out there...
Posted by: eLarson || 04/06/2003 21:11 Comments || Top||

#4  Wabbits....huh........uh............sombody say wabbits? I-wackies....I'm hunting them wight this minute.....be vewwwy vewwy quiet. I think they are scampering unduh the gwound in wittle tunnels. heheheheheheheheh..........
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 04/06/2003 21:43 Comments || Top||

#5  Old Patriot, you're right. Poor bunnies! Get PETA on this, stat!
Posted by: Former Russian Major || 04/06/2003 21:46 Comments || Top||


British in downtown Basra
Royal Marine Commandos have joined the offensive on Basra after British tanks and armoured vehicles pushed their way into the city. Sky's Emma Hurd is with British forces. As heavy gunfire interrupted her live telephone reports she described how troops were preparing to enter and search the Ba'ath party headquarters in a central part of Basra. Earlier, UK military spokesman Colonel Chris Vernon said three battle groups had entered the city - the country's second-largest with a population of more than a million. Soldiers from the 7th Armoured Brigade - the Desert Rats - had encountered "isolated pockets" of resistance as the tanks pushed their way through an industrial area in the outskirts from the south west early on Sunday morning.
I geuss they really did get Chemical Ali — and his staff. If they got him at home, Ali Hassan was some kinda dumbass...
UK military spokesman Group Captain Al Lockwood, said it appeared Basra's Ba'ath Party leadership had either been eliminated or fled. He said the city's civilians appeared to have welcomed the troops. Military commanders decided to push into the city centre - beyond their original intention to establish checkpoints on its suburbs - after encountering minimal resistance by Iraqi forces.
FoxNews says the Brits are sifting through the remains of Chemical Ali's house and that they've identified the remains of his bodyguard — still looking for Ali Hassan's remains...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 04/06/2003 11:02 am || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


200 bodies found near Basra are Iranian soldiers: official
A senior army commander has said that the remains of 200 people found by British troops in a barrack near Basra are those of Iranian soldiers killed in the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war. The Persian-language newspaper Jomhouri-E Eslami quoted Brigadier-General Mirfeisal Baqerzadeh, the head of the search and recovery committee for those missing in action, as saying that the bodies had been discovered over the recent months in joint recovery operations in Iran's Shalamcheh, and Iraq's Az Zubair and Al Faw. Baqerzadeh stressed that the remains were to be repatriated to Iran, but the repatriation did not proceed as the US-led war against Iraq started. "We eagerly ask the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) to carry out its obligations and immediately take delivery of the bodies from the US-British troops, and return them to Iran in Shalamcheh border point with Iraq," he said. Baqerzadeh further said that Iran and Iraq scrapped the search and recovery operations for the missing in action on the Iraqi territory only 15 days before the war started.
That's an explanation of why the bodies were kept around. It doesn't explain the "shot to the back of the head" parts, or the fotos of the victims...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 04/06/2003 10:22 am || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Same reason they probably made snuff films of our executed POWs -- they're sick in the head.
Posted by: someone || 04/06/2003 13:00 Comments || Top||


US warplanes hit Iraqi forces in Karbala
US warplanes have attacked the Iraqi city of Karbala in a bid to protect their military forces advancing towards the capital city of Baghdad. According to the Al-Jazeera channel, American military sources claimed that their warplanes have hit a center of the Iraqi Republican Guards, the Baath Party's headquarters as well as a munitions depot in Karbala.

FOLLOWUP: From the NY Times (requires registration)...
American forces entered this city early today and found herds of tanks abandoned by the Iraqi Army and Republican Guard, and pockets of paramilitary fighters who sprayed the allied troops with rocket-propelled grenades and fire from AK-47's. Responding with a lethal combination of strikes from the air and the ground, the Americans chased the paramilitary units past an amusement park to a schoolhouse converted to an armory, and then to a building used by the governing Baath Party. As night fell, the Americans occupied about two-thirds of the city, which is holy to Shiite Muslims. Battles were expected to continue tomorrow morning. While some parts of the city reacted enthusiastically to the developments, there was diffidence elsewhere, military officials said. Some residents told American forces that those contesting the city on behalf of the Iraqi government were actually Syrian paramilitary fighters who had responded to lucrative offers to serve in Iraqi militias, known as fedayeen. That report was not confirmed.
If it is confirmed, that's another black mark for Syria. And the locals must have been so-o-o-o-o happy to see them...
As American soldiers build in force to attack Baghdad, regular Iraqi troops on the outskirts gave every sign of crumbling. The Iraqi Army, as well as many Republican Guard units, have abandoned their tanks and armored carriers. To some, that is a direct response to the leaflets dropped by United States aircraft, urging the soldiers to leave their vehicles and go home. On Friday morning, American scouts from the Third Infantry Division found a batch of abandoned Iraqi armored vehicles. They were a Soviet-era model known as B.M.P.'s. "Thirty-one B.M.P.'s, fully loaded, ready to go, no one around them," said Sgt. First Class Trevor Marshall. "It's like a used-car parking lot. We said maybe someone's got themselves a dealership."
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 04/06/2003 10:11 am || Comments || Link || [10 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "herds of tanks"
I thought a group of Iraqi Tanks were called a gaggle?
Posted by: raptor || 04/07/2003 8:53 Comments || Top||

#2  "1981 BMP-2, lo miles, never seen cmbt, lk new, grn, 31 to choose, call Achmed 555-3432."
Posted by: Steve White || 04/06/2003 14:20 Comments || Top||

#3  Syria just keeps climbing higher on the"Top Ten"hit list.
Posted by: raptor || 04/07/2003 9:04 Comments || Top||


Large convoy of US forces moving towards Iraq
A large convoy of US trailers carrying military equipment, jeeps and armored vehicles ere seen moving towards Turkey's southern borders with Iraq on Saturday night. According to the IRNA correspondent in Turkey's Kurdistan Province, this is the largest US military convoy seen in Turkey during the past months, which left the Eskandaroun Port on Saturday evening and will probably enter Iraq through the Khabour border later on Saturday night, or early Sunday morning. Such military transportations are often done at night to observe maximum security measures.

The US forces in Turkey's border regions with Iraq have been in a few cases attacked, following which the Turkish forces adopted severe measures aimed at ensuring the US forces' security. The continuation of US military transportations that accelerated following the US Secretary of State Colin Powell's last week visit of Ankara is contrary to the decision of the Turkish Parliament that has twice opposed permitting the US forces to use their country's soil or attacking Iraq, or for transferring military forces and equipment. The Turkish officials argue that such military moves are based on the February 6, 2003 ratification of the parliament that permits the US army to cooperate in reconstruction of a number of Turkey's air bases and ports, but there are apparently no ports or air bases along the path of the US convoy.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 04/06/2003 10:09 am || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Iraqi forces retreat to vicinity of Kirkuk
Voice of America (VOA) Kurdish Broadcasts said here Saturday night that the Iraqi forces have retreated from the Showan' area of Sulaymaniyeh in northern Iraq and are now within 12 kms from the city of Kirkuk. The broadcast added that the Iraqi troops, who had been taken a heavy pounding by the US air force and advancement of Kurdish forces on their position, pulled back from the area after several hours of heavy clashes. It also said it is expected that the Iraqi forces will retreat to the city in the near future. The broadcasts said the Iraqi forces suffered heavy casualties in clashes on Saturday.
Wonder if they're going to try and do the street-fighting thing, or if Baghdad's going to fall before they get the chance...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 04/06/2003 10:05 am || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


Russian convoy attacked, some wounded, in Iraq
A Russian diplomatic convoy which left Baghdad on Sunday was attacked and several people were wounded, the spokesman for Russian President Vladimir Putin said. Russian Ambassador Vladimir Titorenko was in the convoy, which was heading for Syria, Interfax news agency said. It was unclear who attacked the convoy. Russia has been an outspoken opponent of the U.S.-led war against Iraq, and last week summoned the U.S. ambassador to protest against an air raid on a Baghdad suburb which houses the Russian embassy.
Hmmm...considering the other report of an American convoy attacked with a political Kurdish figure in it, it seems to be a bit of a coincidence, no?

FoxNews said earlier today that it was attacked within Iraqi-controlled territory and that we weren't the ones who did it. With so much ordnance being dropped all over the place, that could change, of course. But it could also have been a case of mistaken identity by the Iraqis, which would at least be amusing.

FOLLOWUP, from IRNA...
According to the Qatar Al-Jazeera TV channel, the Russian Ambassador Vladimir Titorenko, a councilor of the diplomatic mission and a driver were wounded in an attack on the motorcade of the Russian embassy in Iraq. The embassy motorcade, heading for Syria, was attacked by unidentified people near the city of Falluja not far from Baghdad.
Being attacked by "unknown people" implies they weren't attacked from the air...
Posted by: Becky || 04/06/2003 06:37 am || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Wonder what they were trying to smuggle out of the country (besides diplos)... and I wonder if we recovered it, whatever it was...
Posted by: jrosevear || 04/06/2003 7:07 Comments || Top||

#2  Why didn't they just drive to the airport?
Seems to me that would have been easy enough.
Posted by: Dishman || 04/06/2003 7:13 Comments || Top||

#3  Why didn't they leave prior to the beginning of the war? I bet they were advising the Iraqis. Rats fleeing a sinking ship. Suckers.
Posted by: RW || 04/06/2003 7:43 Comments || Top||

#4  Wonder what they were trying to smuggle out of the country (besides diplos)...

Probably the portion of the Ba'ath party archives that detail the massive Russian (et al.) involvement Iraq's WMD programs after the Gulf War. There was more than a little speculation that Russian, German, French, American, Israeli and other intelligence services were trying to buy / steal the info before the war began.
Posted by: B. || 04/06/2003 8:58 Comments || Top||

#5  Obviously it wasn't Coalition forces that struck the Russian convoy. We know this because the Russians lived to talk about it.
Posted by: Mark || 04/06/2003 10:50 Comments || Top||

#6  Pull 'em over and check the trunks for Sammy.
Posted by: mojo || 04/06/2003 18:35 Comments || Top||


US bombs own convoy in N Iraq
US forces have bombed a convoy of American special forces and Kurdish civilians in northern Iraq, the BBC's world affairs editor John Simpson says. John Simpson, who himself suffered minor injuries in the attack, said he could see a lot of bodies. He described the attack as a "bad own goal" by the Americans.
This is terrible, but it seems to be the price to be paid for the kind of high tech aerial campaign that the Coalition is running..
The convoy contained between eight and 10 cars, two of which contained US special forces. Among the injured is thought to be a senior Kurdish political figure, our correspondent says.
Posted by: Paul Moloney || 04/06/2003 04:23 am || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  For an...interesting...version of Simpson's report, see this LGF comment by Ken Barnes. The report is now redacted considerably from Barnes' version, so we have only his word on it. Google apparently did not preserve what he says is the original.

If I understand correctly, Simpson was reporting live, and a medic ran over to tell him that he (Simpson) had been hit in the leg by shrapnel. Simpson instantly assumed that the medic was going to stop him reporting this embarrassing incident (which is terrible, as well as embarrassing). In a previous comment, Barnes says they must have been using some sort of audio transcription, since it does read very much like a transcript, rather than a written report.
Posted by: Angie Schultz || 04/06/2003 16:34 Comments || Top||

#2  OK, here's audio of the incident Barnes describes, and video of Simpson's report. Enjoy the blood-stained camera lens. The audio is garbled right after Simpson tells the medic to shut up and go away; wonder what was in that portion. The video report is a good deal more detailed than the text on the web site. Simpson says that one of the American officers in their convoy called in an air strike to deal with some Iraqi tanks, and the pilots bombed the convoy instead.
Posted by: Angie Schultz || 04/06/2003 17:24 Comments || Top||


Interim government to start as early as Tuesday
The US is ready to install the first leg of an interim government for the new Iraq as early as Tuesday, even while fighting still rages in Baghdad, officials said yesterday. America's readiness to establish the first stages of a civil administration to run post-war Iraq comes at lightning speed and constitutes a rebuff to European ambitions to stall on the process until some kind of role for the United Nations is agreed.
Once we've initiated the interim authority, it will moot the pissing and moaning complaints of the Weasels. There's a precedent for that, a real recent one.
It was reported yesterday that the National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice has also ruled out any key role for the UN.
Atta girl, Condi, stick to your guns on this one.
The decision to proceed with an embryonic government comes in response to memoranda written by Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld last week, urging that the US begin to entrench its authority in areas under its control before the war is over. Pentagon officials told The Observer that the administration is determined to impose the Rumsfeld plan and sees no use for a UN role, describing the international body as sadly completely irrevocably 'irrelevant'. The proposal is due to be discussed by George Bush and his closest security officials when he returns from this week's Northern Ireland war council with Tony Blair. But according to US officials in Doha, elements of an embryonic new government will be established in the southern port of Umm Qasr, taken by coalition forces during the first days of the war.
To spread rapidly thereafter.
It will be installed by the Pentagon's Office of Reconstruction and Humanitarian Assistance, under the former US army Lieutenant General Jay Garner, and answerable to the Pentagon. 'What we are going to start trying to do, even before the fighting is over in Iraq, is to move to the areas in Iraq that are relatively peaceful, places like Umm Qasr, and to start moving [the office of reconstruction] into Iraq,' the official said. 'It is a fair assessment to say that this is the first step to set up a civil administration in Iraq.' By brushing the UN aside at such an early stage, the move also places Tony Blair - whose own preference is for a UN role - in a difficult situation ahead of his meeting with Bush this week.
Sorry Tony, but this is important to us.
Rumsfeld presented two memoranda to the White House last week, urging the President to begin setting up government institutions in areas under US control. He said the new organs could install Iraqis returning from exile under the tutelage of American civilians answerable to General Garner.
Organs? That's a Soviet-style word. But then, this is the Guardian.
But his plan has been opposed even within the administration. Colin Powell is known to favour a military government established after victory is assured, prepared to nurture an Iraqi government centred around citizens resident in Iraq, rather than exiles sponsored by neo-conservatives in the Pentagon.
General Garner's team works for the Pentagon. Doesn't that make it a military administration?
General Garner is already set to make his media debut in Kuwait tomorrow as the man whom the US has named to be Iraq's temporary post-war civilian administrator. The US viceroy of the Southern region will be retired General Buck Walters; one of three governors slated to minister the new Iraqi provinces. The others are General Bruce Moore in the largely Kurdish north and former U.S. Ambassador to Yemen Barbara Bodine based in Baghdad, governing the central region.
Sounds like a plan. Get going!
Posted by: Steve White || 04/06/2003 03:13 am || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Here is more about Garner: http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=focusIraqNews&storyID=2514842
I like this line: "man with an air of informality that belies an instinct to tackle trouble head on. "He wouldn't dodge bullets, he'd bite them,"
Posted by: becky || 04/06/2003 8:05 Comments || Top||

#2  Kofi & Co. are probably messing their pants right now. Think of all the oil money they are missing out on.....
I wonder what kind of role, if any, they will give Gen Abazaid (hope I spelled that right). He's fluent in Arabic. That would be a definite plus in this situation.
Posted by: Former Russian Major || 04/06/2003 12:39 Comments || Top||

#3  FRM, how about making Abazaid (I think you did spell it right, or else we're both spelling it wrong!) the commander of the occupation forces, while Garner heads the overall mission? Abazaid seems to have a good head on his shoulders, and as an Arabic-speaker can do all sorts of useful things: like, for instance, start to re-build a "national guard" for the new Iraqi government.
Posted by: Steve White || 04/06/2003 14:25 Comments || Top||

#4  I wonder what kind of role, if any, they will give Gen Abazaid (hope I spelled that right). He's fluent in Arabic.

We may be holding him in reserve, so he can be named the military governor of Syria, after the next phase of Operation Liberate all Arabs is successful.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/06/2003 14:35 Comments || Top||


Marines Attack Suspected Terrorist Camp in Salman Pak
A Marine battalion rolled into a Tigris River town and destroyed a Republican Guard headquarters, seized one of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein's palaces and attacked a suspected terrorist training camp. Tanks with the 3rd Battalion, 7th Marines launched a fiery attack late Saturday and early Sunday on Salman Pak, a small town about 20 miles southeast of Baghdad, which military officials said contained a suspected weapons of mass destruction site dating back to 1991. Backed by coalition airstrikes, Marines in night-vision goggles used tank guns, 50-caliber rounds, machine-gun launched grenades and missiles to hit Iraqi tanks, armored personnel carriers and military installations. Iraqis fired missiles at the planes, but apparently not one bullet was fired at the Marines on the ground, Lt. Col. Michael Belcher said. Before the battle, Marines had estimated there were between 500 and 2,000 Iraqi soldiers in the town. Iraqi fighters had shot at a scouting unit moving through the area earlier in the day.
Drawing attention to yourself is a bad move at this point...
Marines moving through the town early Sunday found abandoned trenches, reinforced with sandbags, and empty sandbag nests on rooftops. ``I think they scurried like a bunch of roaches,'' said Gunnery Sgt. Sandor Vegh, 34, of Circleville, Ohio, referring to the Republican Guard fighters they believed were defending the town.
Sounds like the RG allright.
It was unclear what the Marines found at the training camp, which contains an airstrip the Bush administration says Iraq used to offer terrorist training to Islamic militants. Few details were available about the sites targeted in the raid. Attacking F-18s destroyed three Iraqi tanks, two armored personnel carriers and one anti-aircraft artillery piece. Infantry destroyed two trucks, one artillery piece and killed at least 13 Iraqi soldiers. ``There were so many secondary explosions, I think we hit an ammo dump,'' Belcher said. One Iraqi truck hit by 50-caliber rounds burst into flames, lighting the night sky with an orange glow. It continued exploding for several minutes. The violent blasts kicked up dust and singed the air with the smell of burning molasses. One building that was hit burst into a huge fireball, and blasts continued to emanate from it for the next 20 minutes, sounding like a massive firefight. The flames shot 50 feet into the sky.
As always, good huntin', boys.

FOLLOWUP: From FoxNews:

Ollie North reports that the chief of staff of the SRG was killed in the Salman Pak battle. Among the dead were Jordanians, Yemenis, Iranians and Syrians. Mr Chief of Staff bought the farm with a .50 cal round when he tried to run a roadblock.

More FOLLOWUP, from New York Times/AP...
Marines pulled intelligence from a shattered Republican Guard headquarters Sunday after a night of fiery bombardments, and they searched a suspected terrorist training camp, finding the shell of a passenger jet believed to be used for hijacking practice. When Iraq was developing its biological weapons program before the first Gulf War, the main facility was a secret complex at Salman Pak.
Posted by: Steve White || 04/06/2003 03:09 am || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  singed the air with the smell of burning molasses

Somehow, this sounds familiar. I seem to remember something about "burning molasses" smells and a Russian decontamination fluid. Can't quite put my finger on the quote, but it does sound very familiar. Anyone have any information?
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/06/2003 14:42 Comments || Top||


Pilots Worry About Collision Over Baghdad
With U.S. forces converging on Baghdad, Lt. Cmdr. John Enfield's job just got a lot harder. The supersonic warplanes that had been bombing Iraqi forces on the outskirts of the city now are concentrating on central Baghdad. And Enfield - an F/A-18 Hornet pilot - said it's become more difficult to avoid hitting civilian targets. Pilots also said the sky over Baghdad has become so congested with coalition planes that they worry more about in-flight collisions than Iraqi anti-aircraft fire. ``You have to keep your eyeballs out for the other guys,'' said Enfield, on the carrier USS Kitty Hawk in the Persian Gulf. ``That ends up being one of your major time-consumers, just making sure you are safe from all the other airplanes.''

Controllers are ``stacking'' aircraft at different altitudes to reduce the risk of collisions, but pilots say they still have to dodge each other. ``There's the same number of planes going up in a smaller and smaller airspace. It's getting hazardous from our own planes in the respect of running into each other,'' said Lt. Cmdr. Mark Johnson, another F/A-18 pilot.

Hitting a road or canal is comparatively easy, Enfield said, but ``when you are in the city, it takes very precise control, a lot more time and a lot more effort to make sure you are only going to hit your target and nothing else.'' Pilots are using smaller bombs - mostly 500-pound laser-guided weapons - meaning some targets must be hit more than once. Pilots said they are also required to get visual confirmation of their target before dropping bombs. Enfield said the risk of hitting unintended targets stopped him from dropping bombs during two missions Friday.
Not that the peaceniks will credit us for this sort of restraint.

Since the war began, flight operations aboard the Kitty Hawk have lasted about 15 hours a day. Most pilots have been flying one or two three-hour missions a day, and fatigue is beginning to set in. And an F-14 Tomcat fighter from the Kitty Hawk crashed Wednesday due to mechanical failure. ``A lot of the crews are really tired, the aircraft are getting kind of tired,'' said Johnson, of Redding, Calif. ``I don't know what we can look forward to in the future, maybe a little bit of scaling back. It would be nice to get a little bit of extra sleep.''

Pilot Lt. j.g. Greg Kausner returned from his mission south of Baghdad on Friday without having unloaded bombs from his F-14 Tomcat because he wasn't able to confirm his targets were not civilian vehicles. ``We want to inflict as little damage as possible on Baghdad and its infrastructure,'' said Kausner, 26, of Sparta, N.J.
Keep it going guys, and stay safe.
Posted by: Steve White || 04/06/2003 01:42 am || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


Home Front
Kerry not the only one calling for U.S. "Regime Change"
(via drudge)
KERRY 'REGIME CHANGE' ECHO CHAMBER

Massachusetts Senator John Kerry may have been the first presidential candidate to publicly call for a "regime change" in Washington, but other pillars of the party have been indoctrinating the term for months, research shows.

ActressSingerMotherDirectorCitizenWife Barbra Streisand Has Called For Regime Change. At a fund-raising concert for House Democrats last October, Ms. Streisand called for a "regime change" in Washington and said, "I find bringing the country to the brink of war unilaterally five weeks before an election questionable -- and very, very frightening."

Rev. Jesse Jackson: "We need a regime change in this country." [October 27, 2002]

Louis Farrakhan: "I am crying out to the American people to rise up because your president is the world's threat to peace. When you talk about a regime change in Iraq if this man continues like this there must be a regime change in America. Our president is drunk with the power of the United States of America." [October 9, 2002]

Rep. John Conyers (D-MI): "We need a regime change in the United States." [March 16, 2003]

Former LBJ Attorney General Ramsey Clark: "Regime change! George Bush has to go and we have the power to do it. The officials of the government shall be removed from office for crimes and misdemeanor; their crime against peace, and for use of torture in Iraq." [March 31, 2003]

Michael Moore: "The regime change ought to begin at home." [Nov. 10, 2002]

Actress Susan Sarandon: "I'd like a regime change in the United States, but I would really resent Iraq coming in, throwing out Bush and then telling us who to have." [Jan. 3, 2003] END
Common thread among the quoted? Low IQ?
Posted by: Frank G || 04/06/2003 07:24 pm || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Biggest common thread is that none of them have to really WORK for a living - they're all sponges off the working class.

Seems to me we need to do some serious "re-education" of those whose main source of income is to try to get the rest of the world to support them. I think it wouldn't be very hard to "Dixie Chick" the lot of them!
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/06/2003 20:25 Comments || Top||

#2  As the one movie was called All th Usuall Suspects. If they were calling for "Regime Change" last November why did'nt they get it.
Posted by: Someone who did NOT vote for William Proxmire || 04/06/2003 21:25 Comments || Top||

#3  Okee dokee, but can we start the "regime change" in Hollywood?
Posted by: Former Russian Major || 04/06/2003 21:55 Comments || Top||

#4  Regime change will be followed by a interim people's commission that will determine whether the Un will supervise a purge of dissidents opposed to a new world socialist order. Re-education camps will be established and administered by comrade Annan.
Posted by: TJ Jackson || 04/07/2003 1:19 Comments || Top||

#5  Rev.Jackie=close friend and spirtual councilur to Slick Willie.
Louis Farrahkahn=advocates segregation of races,also called Judisiam a gutter religion.

Now thats a"Ringing Endorsment"on thier character.

Rasey Clark was a suprise to me.

Posted by: raptor || 04/07/2003 7:14 Comments || Top||


East/Subsaharan Africa
Nearly 1,000 massacred in Congo
Nearly 1,000 people have been killed in ethnic violence in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), the United Nations said Sunday, one day after the signing of an accord to end over four years of war in the vast Central African country.
nice timing or poor communications or just hateful spite?
The massacres, which took place on Thursday in the northeastern region of Ituri, had caused "at least one thousand victims," the U.N. mission in the DRC said in a statement in the Rwandan capital Kigali.
Which did nothing to stop it
It said this information came from "witness accounts" of the massacres, which took place in the parish of Drodo and 14 neighboring areas. According to lists compiled by local leaders, 966 people were "summarily executed" in three hours of massacres, said the U.N. mission, which on Saturday sent a team to Drodo and the surrounding areas.
Soon to issue a resolution condemning slaughter of 1100 or more civilians on a single day - bag limit
The U.N. mission said it had visited 49 seriously injured victims in a local hospital. Most had machetes wounds and some had been hit by bullets. The team had also witnessed "20 mass graves, identifiable by traces of blood that was still fresh.". The U.N. mission said it would continue its investigations to identify those responsible for the bloodletting.
Thank you, Inspector Clouseau
The violence came one day after the warring parties in the Democratic Republic of Congo signed a historic pact on Wednesday to end more than four years of brutal warfare. The accord between the government, opposition parties and several rebel groups ended 19 months of tortuous peace negotiations.
it did, huh? explain that to the newly dead?
It enabled President Joseph Kabila to issue on Friday a new constitution which opens the way for a national unity government and the first democratic elections in the former Belgian colony for more than 40 years. A commission, set up to try and bring peace to the troubled Ituri region, began work on Saturday. Earlier on Sunday, Ugandan officers, who have troops stationed in Ituri, said between 350 and 400 members of the Hema ethnic community had been killed in the region in attacks by members of the Lendu ethnic group. The head of the rebel Union of Congolese Patriots (UPC), Thomas Lubanga, confirmed the massacres and said more than 900 people had died. Lubanga, whose rebels recently engaged in fighting against the Ugandan troops in Ituri, accused the Ugandan army of taking part in the Lendu attacks. But General Kale Kaihura, the commander of Ugandan troops in Ituri, rejected the claims, saying he had sent his men to the site of the massacres after receiving information from local chiefs.

In a sign of further instability elsewhere in the Democratic Republic of Congo, weapons fire resounded on Sunday afternoon in the town of Bukavu, the main centre in the eastern province of South-Kivu. A spokesman for the rebel group which controls Bukavu, the Congolese Rally for Democracy, said it was a "restrained" attack by local militia in protest at the arrest of their leader on Thursday. "We are hearing shots from heavy and light arms which started some time ago and are continuing," said an inhabitant from the village who was taking refuge inside a church. The war in the Democratic Republic of Congo, the former Zaire, broke out in 1998, one year after the fall of reviled dictator Mobuto Seke Seso. It has claimed around 2.5 million lives, either directly or through disease or starvation.
There will never be a lack of tribal fighting until the UN peacekeepers do their job ruthlessly

The UN is demanding to take charge in Iraq, too, so they can keep the peace there just as effectually.
Posted by: Frank G || 04/06/2003 05:41 pm || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Chiraq: "I zhon't give a shit about zhem, zhey don't want to buy my nuclear reactor"
Posted by: rg117 || 04/06/2003 18:09 Comments || Top||

#2  lol... when will we see THAT headline?...

"in a daring display of disregard for international opinion, Pres. Chirac announced today that he just refuses to get involved in the Congo - he was quoted as saying "Zat backwater hellhole zhust has no market for French products..."

the story might continue something like this...

"..and once again, American forces are in the field against uncertain odds and an almost indeterminable enemy in order to secure the safety and freedom of thousands of unappreciative and uninterested third world civilians... Chirac's only comment on the US operation in the Congo was to say "well, I don't particularly like it, but then again, its the Congo, so who the heck cares"..."
Posted by: Steve || 04/06/2003 18:39 Comments || Top||

#3  From what I understand, there are something like thirty-five different warring parties. No treaty is going to be able to bring them all together peacefully, as long as the hatred between two or more different tribes continues to exist. Some of this fighting has been going on since the early 1900's and was actually encouraged by the Belgian colonial government. The situation in the Congo is so bizarre that I don't think ANYBODY really understands it, which makes it almost impossible to actually get the people to work together for any length of time. As bad as French colonialism was, it was better than Belgian administration, and led to far fewer open wars once these areas achieved independence. Ruanda, scene of even more horrendous clashes and higher death tolls, was also a former Belgian colony.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/06/2003 19:33 Comments || Top||

#4  Ah, yes.........Africa after the Queen left.......
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 04/06/2003 21:32 Comments || Top||

#5  Democratic Republic of Congo (Zaire) has a 10% muslim population, total approx. 4.6 million muslims.

Shares southern borders with Angola (25% muslim population) and Zambia (15% muslim population) and northern borders with Central African Republic (55% muslim population) and the Sudan (85% muslim population, pretty extremist too)

Does anybody know if there is a religious aspect to the internal violence?
Posted by: anon1 || 04/06/2003 22:10 Comments || Top||


Iran
Iranian Students Ready to Defend Iraqi Shrines
A group of Iranian theological students have called on Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei to allow them to go to Iraq to safeguard holy Shi'ite Muslim shrines, a newspaper said on Sunday. Shi'ite Muslim Iran has given repeated warnings to U.S. and British forces not to damage sites in the southern Iraqi cities of Kerbala and Najaf which are home to some of the most sacred shrines for their branch of Islam. "Basij (volunteer) clerics are ready to take your orders to protect with their lives their Muslim brothers and sisters and the holy sites in Iraq if needed," the hard-line Kayhan newspaper quoted the letter as saying.
And so begin the first steps of the aftermath...
The letter was written to Khamenei by religious students in the northwestern city of Tabriz. Kayhan said Iran's religious seminaries would abandon classes on Monday to stage nationwide demonstrations against the war in neighboring Iraq. "The Islamic world will not tolerate any aggression or disrespect to Iraqi holy shrines and attacks on Iraqi civilians," it quoted a statement by an unnamed seminary school in the city of Qom, where most of Iran's religious schools are based. Eager to minimize U.S. accusations of interference in the war, Iran has closed its border with Iraq and said it will not allow Iranians or Iraqi exiles to cross over and join the fighting.
But this is different, of course...
But damage to holy sites, such as the golden-domed shrine of Imam Ali bin Abi Talib, cousin and son-in-law of the Prophet Mohammad, in the heart of Najaf, would enrage Iran's Shi'ite clerical establishment.
So would most other things, of course. And we all know that no Muslim is able to control his rage whenever it arises...
In a letter to the British embassy in Tehran, a group calling itself the Islamic Society of Students also warned U.S. and British forces to respect the Shi'ite shrines in Iraq. Should they be damaged, "we will even sacrifice our lives to put in danger all the interests and sites of the American and British aggressor governments," the letter said, according to the hard-line Jomhuri-ye Eslami newspaper.
Sounds exactly like a threat to me. I'm really getting tired of half-wits, cheap politicians, and holy men feeling free to threaten the U.S. and Britain.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 04/06/2003 12:07 pm || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Let 'em all go into the gauntlet. If it escalates, all these countries are going down. Goodbye Damascus, Goodbye Tehran, basically anyone who throws in their chips. Take care of it all at once. Islamofascist psycho hard boys ready to go horizontal.
Posted by: George || 04/06/2003 12:26 Comments || Top||

#2  Ya think that maybe they would want to pick up their dead and bring them back while they're in Iraq? I'm sure the Brits would be willing to hand back Iranian war dead that they stumbled upon yesterday.....
Look on the bright side, though....at least they'll be taking a day off from school. No hate lessons tomorrow, for a change.
Posted by: Former Russian Major || 04/06/2003 13:15 Comments || Top||

#3  once again.. what is with this constant sabre rattling and useless prattle... fight or shut up... if we damage something, get upset - until then sit in the corner of your rotting third world backwater hellhole and be quiet - we have work to do...
Posted by: Steve || 04/06/2003 18:43 Comments || Top||

#4  When are these mentally retarded idiots going to get it through there thick heads it is not about Islam. Most people in the "West" could are less what your religious beliefs are( the Jehovahs Witnesses withstanding )Christian, Muslim, Budhist, bay at the fucking moon. As long as you do not interefer with your neighbor most of us us dont care. But when you try to impose yours on anyone else, we get very highly pissed. The US and Britian learned the hard way about attacking "holy sites" in Italy during WWII. Aree any of these idiots familiar with Monte Casino?
Posted by: Someone who did NOT vote for William Proxmire || 04/06/2003 21:50 Comments || Top||

#5  Someone: the problem is, the argument about not caring what your neighbour's beliefs are, plays into their argument that we are in fact infidels since we tolerate other religions besides Allah's and Mohamed's. Therefore to them it is about Islam.
Posted by: RW || 04/06/2003 22:23 Comments || Top||

#6  Hey, if they want to send some (real) religious students over to help fix up the shrines, what's the harm? I'd say let them. If they try to stir up trouble, plenty of time to correct things.

I don't think the Iraqis will be putting up with much "Kill the Americans" talk...
Posted by: Reed || 04/06/2003 23:23 Comments || Top||


Middle East
Suicide Attacks on Invading Forces Permitted: Tantawi
CAIRO: Suicide attacks on the US-led coalition in Iraq are permitted under (Islamic) religious law, the sheikh of Al-Azhar, the highest Sunni Muslim spiritual authority, Muhammad Sayed Tantawi, said yesterday. "Martyr operations against the invading forces are permitted under religious law," he said, quoted by the official MENA news agency. Tantawi described the invasion of Iraq to oust the regime of Saddam Hussein as an unjust aggression. "Whoever attacks others, spilling blood, harming the other's honor and land is a terrorist," he added, referring to the US-led coalition. Tantawi, however, said the US-led war was not a crusade against Islam since many Christian nations and religious leaders, including Pope John Paul II, have opposed it. He also indirectly criticized the Iraqi and the Kuwaiti leaders. "Saddam Hussein should have accepted a call from the United Arab Emirates last month to resign in order to prevent war," he said. "Had this initiative gone through, it would have preserved the blood of many Muslims and we would not be seeing the massacres under way against the Iraqi people."
I never thought that was going to happen. I don't think the Arabs did, either...
Tantawi described Iraq's August 1990-February 1991 occupation of Kuwait as a terrorist act. He also criticized Kuwait, without actually naming the emirate, saying when an Arab country enlists the help of foreign forces against another Arab country for no reason, this is treason to religion.
Yep. We know which side he's on, too...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 04/06/2003 11:55 am || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The government of that bundle of Muslim social idiocy called Egypt, is using the officially banned Muslim Brotherhood (Ikhwan Musulum) to further its anti-American agenda.
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2003/632/eg8.htm
Its time to cut off US aid to that basket case, and coerce them to adopt the Algerian solution to jihadi vermin.
Posted by: Anonon || 04/06/2003 13:52 Comments || Top||

#2  Suicide attacks on the US-led coalition in Iraq are permitted under (Islamic) religious law, the sheikh of Al-Azhar, the highest Sunni Muslim spiritual authority, Muhammad Sayed Tantawi, said yesterday. "Martyr operations against the invading forces are permitted under religious law," he said, quoted by the official MENA news agency.

Gotta love Islam.
A true religion of peace.
As long as you're Muslim, and not dissenting, or not a woman trying to go to the doctor, or vote, or drive a car, or divorce an abusive husband, or get a job because you're starving, or get an education, or uncover your head in 100 degree weather, or happen to get raped. It helps, also, if you're not Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist, Taoist, or atheist.

Being a Westerner is also a pretty heinous thing, too. I mean, we actually have the gall to complain when innocent Muslim martyrs and "jihadi" kill our civilians by the thousands, torture, rape, and sell captives into slavery, or spread vile lies about our society.

What are we thinking?
It's allowed under Islam.
It's a cultural thing, I guess we wouldn't understand.

Yep.
Lovely religion.
Superb culture that has sprung up around it.
[/sarcasm]
Posted by: Celissa || 04/06/2003 15:42 Comments || Top||

#3  Just think what the US could do with the aid utterly wasted on Egypt and that double-dealer Mubarak. And then there's the daily riot a.k.a. Pakistan. And... hell, is there anyone we DON'T give aid to?

What IS the total given to Muslim countries, Muslim sympathizers (i.e. America-haters), those who hate us for other reasons - such as we won't give without strings attached (i.e. All of Africa's Thugs, er, Gov'ts), and others who hate us just because it's fashionable???

I think a trip to the USAID website is in order...
Posted by: PD || 04/06/2003 15:50 Comments || Top||


Iran
Karroubi accuses US of waging atomic warfare against Iraqi people
Majlis Speaker Mehdi Karroubi said on Sunday that the US is waging atomic warfare on Iraqi people ignoring the international conventions. He expressed deep grief at mass killing of Iraqi civilians and desecration of Iraq-based sanctities and holy shrines. "How do you describe occupation of a sovereign state and exposing the civilians of the country to atomic bombardment. Do you want to bring democracy to Iraq?" he asked hysterically. "The Iraqi people themselves have the right to determine their own fate. The security of the region should be protected by the nations in the area."
The Iraqi people don't seem to have been able to dislodge Sammy. And nobody else in the area helped them, did they?
"The US has waged a war on Iraq for oil and help the Zionist regime gain dominance over the region," he said. "The US waged war on Iraq for alleged possession of Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD), but, the coalition forces have not found any sign of WMD in that country in the past 17-day operation."
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 04/06/2003 10:53 am || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  He could just save time: "JJJeeeeewwwsss and OOOiiillllll. thank you"
Posted by: Frank G || 04/06/2003 11:55 Comments || Top||

#2  What he really wanted to say was "The atomic US has atomically waged an atomic war on atomic Iraq for atomic oil and atomically help the Zionist atomic regime atomically gain atomic dominance over the atomic region,"
Posted by: RW || 04/06/2003 15:03 Comments || Top||

#3  PD - good stuff - I like it ;-)
Posted by: Frank G || 04/06/2003 17:28 Comments || Top||

#4  "The US waged war on Iraq for alleged possession of Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD), but, the coalition forces have not found any sign of WMD in that country in the past 17-day operation."

Just hold tight. We've been busy fighting a war, but as soon as we mop this up, we'll get right on finding those Weapons of Mass Destruction, along with the Whiners of Mass Deception that go along with them. Then we'll take several tons of them, and cram them down your whiney little throat, without catsup or salt. Thank you very much.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/06/2003 19:50 Comments || Top||

#5  What were all of those lorry convoys from Baghdad into Syria carrying in January? Anyone checked the toxin level of the Tigrris river lately?
Posted by: leonidas || 04/06/2003 23:44 Comments || Top||


Middle East
Mullah Fudlullah sez Muslims not to recognize any US-installed gov't
A prominent Lebanese cleric said here on Sunday that Muslims and Arab nations will not recognize a US-installedgovernment in Iraq after the war. Sheikh Muhammed Hussein Fadlallah denounced the US' post-war plan for Iraq, reiterating that the Muslim and Arab community will confront any plan of the kind that the US is contemplating. The Lebanese alim further denounced pronouncements by US officialsthat the coalition will have priority in the post-war reconstruction of Iraq. Sheikh Fadlallah noted that Bush administration officials recently announced that there is no plan to change the historical ruling set-upin Iraq, which means the Shias will receive no special privileges in the next Iraqi regime.
If religion isn't a criterion for privilege, I guess that's so...
Washington, intending to obtain a say in the current Iraqi regime,encouraged Iraq to launch a war against the Islamic Republic of Iran in the 1980s and provided it political, economic and military support,which then paved the way for its invasion of Kuwait, Fadlallah said. He then noted that Iraq's occupation of Kuwait provided the pretext for the US to increase its presence in the Middle East region by claiming its presence was necessary to defend the Persian Gulf sheikdoms from Iraqi aggression. Fadlallah said that Washington has since reversed its policy in Iraq. It now wants to overthrow its puppet regime there on the pretext that it is a danger to its neighbors, citing the two bloody wars Iraq waged against Iran and Kuwait, adding that the US has launched the current war precisely to bring another puppet to run the country. On the incredible resistance of the Iraqi people against the US invasion, he said that the US underestimated the Iraqi nation, stressing that this nation has proven to be a tremendous force in the the way of US and British military operations.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 04/06/2003 10:33 am || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Another Lebanese Shite cleric spouting off the interests of Iran and Hezbollah.
Posted by: Anonymous || 04/06/2003 10:57 Comments || Top||

#2  Anon, he's the spiritual head of Hizbollah...
Posted by: Brian || 04/06/2003 11:40 Comments || Top||

#3  Sounds like time for another "decapitation" strike.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/06/2003 14:54 Comments || Top||

#4  Sounds like a lot of Fuddleduddle
Posted by: Anonon || 04/06/2003 16:33 Comments || Top||

#5  "Muslims and Arab nations will not recognize a US-installedgovernment in Iraq after the war."
The Cleric must have taken the lead from the Rev. Jessie, seeing how that same tactic worked so well for the Democrats after the 2000 election.
Posted by: becky || 04/06/2003 21:43 Comments || Top||


Israeli occupation army kills Palestinian, wounds American
The Israeli occupation army has killed a Palestinian guerrilla and seriously wounded an American peace activist in the northern part of the West Bank. Palestinian sources said a Palestinian gunny guerrilla was fatally wounded Saturday night outside the Jewish settlement of Kiryat Araba'a, on al-Khalil's north-eastern outskirts. An Israeli occupation army spokesman said the Palestinian was killed in an exchange of fire with Zionist troops.
Scratch another one...
Meanwhile, trigger-happy Israeli soldiers manning an armored personnel carrier shot and seriously injured an American peace activist in the West Bank city of Jenin. According to the International Solidarity Movement (ISM), Israeli soldiers opened fire without a prior warning at Brian Avery, 24, from New Mexico, wounding him badly in the face. Eyewitnesses testified that the shooting was deliberate, adding that Avery was wearing a fluorescent red vest with a reflective white cross on its back and front. Avery was taken to a local hospital in Jenin where his condition was described as very serious. The Israeli occupation army said it would investigate the incident.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 04/06/2003 10:26 am || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  When you run with dogs expect to get bit.
Posted by: raptor || 04/07/2003 9:09 Comments || Top||

#2  Another Rachel Corrie wannabe gets hurt. Ethel, my pills!
Posted by: Former Russian Major || 04/06/2003 13:04 Comments || Top||

#3  trigger-happy huh? Fairly unbalanced
Posted by: Frank G || 04/06/2003 13:07 Comments || Top||

#4  The Washington Post is reporting that Mr Avery got hit by a ricocheting bullet. The Palestinian guy was attempting to shoot it out with an armored vehicle. The International Solidarity Movement was there to act as human shields, according to Mr Avery's colleague, Tobia Karlsson.
Didn't Mr Avery's mom ever give him the speech about hanging out with the wrong kind of kids?
Posted by: Former Russian Major || 04/06/2003 13:22 Comments || Top||

#5  Well, he took a bullet for the Cause(TM), just like he always wanted. He should be happy.
Posted by: Crescend || 04/06/2003 13:32 Comments || Top||

#6  What do you expect to happen, when you stand in the middle of a fire fight?
Posted by: Doug De Bono || 04/06/2003 14:32 Comments || Top||

#7  "wounding him badly in the face... Avery was wearing a fluorescent red vest with a reflective white cross on its back and front."

Sounds like someone needs to spend some more time at the range. Cold barrel shots always go high.
Posted by: Mark IV || 04/06/2003 17:08 Comments || Top||

#8  When you run with dogs expect to get bit.
Posted by: raptor || 04/07/2003 9:09 Comments || Top||


Iran
Police seize 155 kg of heroin in southeastern province
An official in Sistan-Baluchestan police organization Ali reza Sayyed Abolhosseini said here Saturday that over 155 kg of heroin have been seized in the 'Saravan' area. He told IRNA that the police working on a tip-off, seized the drug haul on motorcycles entering Iran form the Pakistani border. He added that large amounts of ammunition were also seized from the smugglers.
Hitting two of Pakistan's main exports: drugs and thugs...
Iran lies on an international drugs trade route, which originates from Afghanistan and Pakistan and stretches as far as the Persian Gulf Arab states, Europe and beyond. More than 4,000 members of Iranian armed forces have been killed in cross-border clashes with drug traffickers during the civil disorder in neighboring Afghanistan in the past 20 years. According to official estimates, Iran's anti-drug campaign costs the country $800 million each year. Iran accounts for 80 percent of the opium and 90 percent of the morphine intercepted worldwide, according to the International Narcotics Control Board.
Meaning Pakistan and Afghanistan account for its points of origin. Burma must be so jealous...
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