Apparently the hosting move took place with only the loss of a couple comments. I'll try to reconstruct them tomorrow. My e-mail is also hosed — it'll probably take me a day or two to get that sorted out, too. Sorry for the late start...
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No problema. Take a valium.
Posted by: Allah the Dog Faced God ||
10/04/2002 19:24 Comments ||
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I'm amazed that the disruption was so overplayed! Who runs this rant? LOL no problema
Posted by: Frank G ||
10/04/2002 20:13 Comments ||
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There were the first signs yesterday that the US might be willing to back off from a draft text circulated in the UN earlier this week that drew a sharply hostile reaction from Paris, Moscow and Beijing. It included a blunt threat of military force in the event that Iraq made any attempt to impede the inspections once they begin. With prodding from Britain, the US is now considering an approach proposed by the French President, Jacques Chirac. He sees a first resolution clarifying new rules for the conduct of the inspections. The warning of military punishment would come in a second resolution that would only be adopted if Iraq fell foul of the new UN demands. If it's going to come, why put it in a second resolution? This is a setup, to keep yakking once the Iraqis thumb their noses. It they take this route, they'll still be passing gas a year from now...
One US administration official told Reuters news agency: "We've not decided specifically [on two resolutions]. We still want one resolution but we're exploring with the British and the French ways of bridging the difference between the resolution that we want and the two the French want." Doubt if they're gonna compromise on one and a half resolutions...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt ||
10/04/2002 04:11 pm ||
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Yes! We have peace-in-our-time!
War is abolished for all time!
Posted by: Allah the Dog Faced God ||
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Two men, a driver and a shooter, are being sought for the deaths of five people gunned down in the Washington suburbs hours and miles apart from each other, police said Friday. Police were also still looking for a white cargo van, and had refined their description of the vehicle, but did not release the additional details, Montgomery County police chief Charles Moose said. The description of the van and two men first came from a single witness at the scene of one of the shootings, but Moose refused to say whether that was the only witness. "You've got a driver, you've got a shooter," Moose said. "In terms of whether that turns out to be a mistake, I want to say no lead is a mistake. We will search down all leads, if we track down the truck and it turns out not to be involved then that is the case." He doesn't sound too doubtful about the truck...
Moose said investigators were tracking down more than 200 leads. A man arrested near the scene of one of the shootings turned out not to be involved, the police chief said. Probably won't be the only one stopped...
Moose also said police were looking into a shooting Thursday night in Washington to see if it was related. In that shooting, Pascal Charlot, 72, of Washington, was shot once in the chest as he stood on a street corner in Northwest Washington. In the Our Nation's Capital, that's not an unheard-of occurrence. It could be related, or not...
Joseph Riehl, a spokesman for the Baltimore office of the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, would not comment on whether any slugs had been recovered. Investigators are "90 percent" certain the five were all killed with a .223-caliber weapon, police said. Riehl, however, said a person with reasonable shooting skills could accurately use a weapon loaded with .223 rounds from about 150 yards. Riehl said such weapons can be accurate up to 600 meters, or about 650 yards. Since this happened only ten miles or so to the west of where I work, I take it personally. WTOP also says the coppers are looking into a similar shooting in Spottsylvania, in Virginia.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt ||
10/04/2002 04:08 pm ||
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"Two men" is hardly the type of identification that the public needs to provide its information role in this type of incident. Perhaps, there is some "profiling" sensitivity here, that is not advancing public safety.
Posted by: Allah the Dog Faced God ||
10/04/2002 19:31 Comments ||
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I live in Manassas and work in Tyson's Corner, and I can tell you that I've been looking askance at white "box trucks" today. This is exhausting and enervating, because as the Post pointed out today, there are just so damn many of them - they're all over the place doing deliveries and whatnot every day. The police certainly were stopping a lot of them yesterday, but given the paucity of the evidence they had at that point, I don't really see what else they could have done.
I'm suspicious about the Charlot shooting myself, because, looking at the map, the location (which, by the way, was only a block from the MD/Montgomery County state line on Georgia Avenue, next to Silver Spring) is pretty much in a rough line with the other locations of the murders. They did recover bullet fragments from the old fellow's body, so if they were able to find any bullets or bullet fragments from the other killings, we might be able to get some more data soon. For that matter, Chief Moose also released some very detailed data about that truck in the press conference which might be helpful - _if_ the truck hasn't been abandoned because the killer or killers have caught on that their vehicle is being searched for by every boy and girl in blue within 50 miles of the District.
I think the Fredericksburg shooting (which, incidentially and most thankfully, the woman who was the victim appears to be surviving) is more of a copycat thing, because the vehicle involved was very different and the weapon appears not to have been the high-powered rifle involved in the MD killings.
BTW, for what it's worth, at least one other blogger is speculating that the first victim, James Martin, was the intended target, and the others were shot to throw police off the track. Thing is, from what little I know - Mr. Martin worked for NOAA as some sort of analyst - I have no idea why _he_ would be the target of a killer, either.
Posted by: Joe ||
10/04/2002 20:14 Comments ||
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As a follow-up, http://www.koenighaus.net/indepundit/archives/001122.html#001122 has a very thorough running update on the case.
I might note, also, replying to Allah the Dog Faced God, that maybe the police _don't_ yet know the description of the shooters. It was only in one case so far that witnesses managed to get a good look at the famous white box truck, after all, and they might well not have been able to see the occupants clearly enough to get a good ID.
Posted by: Joe ||
10/04/2002 20:18 Comments ||
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Charlot case: same gun, confirmed.
They seem to think the case of the woman shot in Virginia may also be related. We'll see.
Posted by: Kathy K ||
10/05/2002 8:02 Comments ||
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A U.S. judge on Friday sentenced John Walker Lindh, the American captured in 2001 by U.S. forces during the war in Afghanistan, to 20 years in prison for fighting in support of the Taliban. "You made a bad choice to join the Taliban and to engage in that effort over there," District Judge T.S. Ellis told Lindh as he pronounced the sentence. Before being sentenced, Lindh broke down in tears as he told the court that he regretted ever joining the Taliban and said he condemned terrorism. Somehow it ain't quite as romantic when you're on your way to jug. There aren't any virgins waiting for you there. But the mullahs and the imams and the muftis don't put that part in those videos, do they?
Posted by: Fred Pruitt ||
10/04/2002 04:10 pm ||
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maybe he'll find him self a boyfriend wheres he's gonig
Posted by: dennis ||
10/04/2002 21:44 Comments ||
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Richard Reid pleaded guilty with a laugh Friday to trying to blow up a trans-Atlantic flight with explosives hidden in his shoes, and he declared his hatred for America and his loyalty to Osama bin Laden. "Basically I got on the plane with a bomb," Reid said, alternately defiant and flippant. "Basically I tried to ignite it. Basically, yeah, I intended to damage the plane." Prosecutors said they would ask for a sentence of 60 years to life in prison, in accordance with federal guidelines. Laugh about that one, bomb boy.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt ||
10/04/2002 04:15 pm ||
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they sould shove that shoe ap his a## i need a good laugh
Posted by: dennis ||
10/04/2002 21:41 Comments ||
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Hailing a "defining day" in the fight against terrorism, Attorney General John Ashcroft announced the arrests of four people in Oregon and Michigan on Friday on charges of conspiring to wage war on the United States and support al-Qaida. I wonder just how long the investigation leading to this has been going on? And how many others there are that they aren't bragging about?
The arrests came on the same day that a tearful John Walker Lindh was sentenced to 20 years for fighting with the Taliban in Afghanistan and a laughing Richard Reid pleaded guilty in Boston to trying to blow up a trans-Atlantic flight with explosives hidden in his shoes. Made it a pretty good day, all in all, didn't it?
Authorities arrested four people in Oregon and Michigan — including a former U.S. Army reservist. Two other suspects were indicted and were being sought overseas. Five of the six in the latest indictment are U.S. citizens. According to prosecutors, some of them took weapons training and then tried to travel to Afghanistan to join up with al-Qaida and the Taliban, but could not get into the country. Since we didn't get the opportunity to shoot them there, we should just shoot them here...
Ashcroft said one of those arrested, Jeffrey Leon Battle, joined the U.S. Army Reserves to obtain training in U.S. tactics and weapons. Ashcroft said Battle, who was discharged last January while in Bangladesh, intended to use that experience against American soldiers in Afghanistan. Shoot low in him...
Court papers identified the six as Battle, 32; Patrice Lumumba Ford, 31; Ahmed Ibrahim Bilal, 24; his brother Muhammad Ibrahim Bilal, 22; Habis Abdullah al Saoub, 37; and October Martinique Lewis, 25, the ex-wife of Battle. Battle, Lumumba Ford, Ahmed Bilal, Muhammad Bilal and Abdullah al Saoub set out for Afghanistan in October 2001 and tried to enter the country by way of China but failed, Ashcroft said. Lewis stayed behind and wired money to Battle eight times "with the knowledge the money would be used to support his attempt to reach Afghanistan" to help al-Qaida and the Taliban, according to the attorney general. Determined little traitors, weren't they? Not particularly ept, but determined...
Ahmed Bilal and al Saoub were being sought outside the United States. Battle, Ford and Lewis were arrested in Portland, and Muhammad Bilal was taken into custody in Michigan. He had been living with a sister in the Detroit suburb of Dearborn for about a month but had previously lived in Oregon.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt ||
10/04/2002 04:23 pm ||
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Israeli police stormed Al-Asqa Mosque (Islamâs third holiest site) as worshippers protested an incursion by Jewish zealots after Friday prayer. Israeli police fired tear gas grenades at a group of Palestinians worshippers after the weekly Friday prayers at Al-Aqsa Mosque, the third holiest mosque in Islam, police sources said. Did they mention that it's Islam's third holiest place?
No-one was injured in the incident and the police eventually evacuated a number of trespassing Jewish worshippers from the Muslim holy site where the Palestinian intifada against Israeli occupation erupted just over two years ago, following a provocative visit by then general Ariel Sharon guarded by a massive number of armed security guards. "So we, like, got indignant and stuff, and people, like, started blowing up every which way. An' it was all their fault!"
Posted by: Fred Pruitt ||
10/04/2002 11:11 pm ||
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Gee, Ummahnews just FORGOT to mention the Palies were throwing rocks at Jewish worshippers below, who were at the Wailing Wall. Those must have been the "trespassing" "Jewish zealots."
All this lying wouldn't bother me so much if Western lefties would ADMIT these Muslims are liars, and ADMIT that it's wrong to lie.
Posted by: Michael Levy ||
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Some 1,500 Palestinian demonstrators took to the streets of Gaza City Friday, October 4, to protest a U.S. law calling for the U.S. embassy to be moved from Tel Aviv to Occupied Jerusalem, implicitly recognizing the city as Israel's capital. "Jerusalem is our capital!" the demonstrators hollered chanted, having gun sex firing shots in the air, while others were calling for revenge and the pursuit of the Intifada, an Agence France-Presse (AFP) correspondent on the scene reported. "Yes! That's it! Fatimah, get me my dynamite belt! We need revenge! Revenge for... for... whatever."
"We condemn the U.S. Congress decision and call on Arabs, Muslims and Christians to intervene for an end to the United States' support for the Israeli aggression," Palestinian MP Ibrahim Abu al-Naja told the rally. "Damn that damned Congress! If we had a Congress, we'd damn them, too!"
The demonstration was called for by the National and Islamic Forces, an umbrella organization grouping the 13 main Palestinian resistance groups. The coalition, which includes Fatah and Hamas, called Thursday, October 3, for an urgent meeting of the Al-Quds (Jerusalem) committee of the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) to discuss means of countering the U.S. law. The National and Islamic Forces had also called on all residents of the occupied West Bank, Gaza Strip and Golan Heights to "defy the Israeli curfew ... and pray at the Al-Aqsa Mosque and gather in all the churches in Palestine." "Yeah. Get the Christians in on this. They're usually pretty easy. We can slaughter them later, after the Jews are all dead."
Posted by: Fred Pruitt ||
10/04/2002 11:17 pm ||
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U.S. officials have visited part of northern Iraq controlled by Kurds to question Islamist prisoners suspected of links to al Qaeda, the head of one of the Kurdish factions controlling the region said on Friday. Northern Iraq is controlled by the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) and the Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP). PUK leader Jalal Talabani said Washington had considered a military strike against a small militant Islamist group called Ansar al-Islam but the Kurds had persuaded the United States that they would deal with the group. "Now, don't go flyin' off the handle, there. We'll whack 'em. We'll whack 'em..."
Ansar's leader Mullah Krekar, whose real name is Najmuddin Faraj Ahman, was arrested by Dutch police in September, and PUK officials say the group has disintegrated since then, many of its members surrendering. "See? That wasn't so hard, was it?"
"A U.S. team visited the area recently and debriefed Ansar prisoners," Talabani told reporters in Arbil at the reopening of a regional parliament. "With the help of the Islamic Republic of Iran, we will address this issue. The plan to attack Ansar is still on the table, but I don't think it will happen now." "We can always dust it off if we need it..."
Relations between the PUK and Tehran had soured in recent months because Talabani initially encouraged the United States to attack Ansar, whose territory lies next to the Iranian border in the hills above the town of Halabja, Kurdish sources said. Iran was angry that U.S. forces would be engaged so close to its own territory, but to prove its opposition to Ansar and show goodwill, Iranian authorities tipped off European governments that the group's leader, Mullah Krekar, was travelling to the Netherlands, enabling Dutch police to arrest him. So that's how it happened? I love these little glimpses behind the scenes...
A number of senior Ansar figures have deserted since Krekar's capture while a young Kurdish member of the group, on a suicide mission against PUK officials with explosives strapped to his body, gave himself up at the last minute, the sources said. Somehow it's not worth becoming flying meat when the Bigs are hanging the whole idea up. Those virgins'll still be there waiting fifty or sixty years from now...
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10/04/2002 04:08 pm ||
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