Glenn Reynolds gleefully points to today's most inspiring item, at least so far...
A Malaysian couple who have been married for 22 years plan to sue government officials who burst into their bedroom and arrested them under strict Islamic morality laws. Abdul Halim Zainal Abidin and his wife Nooriah were staying in a rented room when the incident happened two years ago. "Drop the doinker, buddy! Yer under arrest! Getcher burka on, y' brazen hussy!"
They were unable to produce their marriage certificate immediately, so the officials detained them for seven hours under a law which forbids unchaperoned close contact between men and unmarried women. The couple, who have three children, are seeking compensation for wrongful arrest and humiliation. They were probably laughing or something. That sort of thing draws religious coppers, 'cause they can tell something sinful's going on...
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yeah, right! How could a good muslim man settle for only one wife? A likely story....
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Pathetic, but we're headed that way too. Or perhaps you have another explanation for Florida's Scarlet Letter Law?
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Sure, there's an easy explanation for Florida's law. Thanks to biology, the details of pregnancy, birth, and parenting are inherently unequal. The mother always knows that the kid is hers, but has to go through pregnancy. The father can always more easily just leave, but the mother is able to get an abortion, whereas the father has less say in that.
Women's groups like NOW have fought to move the playing field to be more advantageous to women. Hence their push for fewer abortion restrictions, requiring men to pay child support, etc.
Originally, the playing field was considerably tilted away from women. Now, however, there are men and men's groups who believe that it's now biased against men. They feel that women have complete control over whether a baby is aborted or given up for adoption, yet a man can still be forced to pay child support if the woman wants to have the kid. IOW, the mother completely gets to decide the fate of the child, and the father just has to pay for it.
Right or no, this kind of feeling causes backlash. One step is laws allowing the father some say in what happens; for example, if the mother wants to give the child up for adoption but the father doesn't, the father may get custody. This law is a (fatally flawed) attempt to ensure that fathers know about their options-- to prevent fathers from only being informed about their child if the mothers want to tell them.
Flawed, yes. Partially because the realities of biology make it very difficult to have complete equality between the sexes in pregnancy, childbirth, and parenting.
Still, it appears in no way to be motivated by similar concerns to the Islamic morality laws, and it not a slippery slope towards them. It's more a case of property rights (over children) than morality.
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Belgian Foreign Minister Louis Michel on Wednesday said that a British dossier on Iraq's weapons cannot justify a military intervention in Iraq. "Nope. Nope. Not convinced. Don't bother me with evidence..."
Michel told the Belgian TV RTBF that the 50-page dossier unveiled on Tuesday by the British Prime Minister Tony Blair proves that the return of the inspectors to Iraq is necessary. He stressed that the report of the British prime minister would not change the view point of Belgium or of a number of other
countries. "We have demanded that Iraqis accept the return without conditions of the inspectors. They have accepted the return without conditions of the inspectors, it is necessary now to leave to the inspectors the time to do their work," he told the French-language TV. "We have all the time in the world. Sammy might strike at someplace like Paris or Rome or even Barcelona, but we're betting he doesn't even know where Brussels is..."
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The Saddamites obstructed the Inspectors before, why wouldn't they obstruct them now? The only way to end the obstruction, is: regime change. Saddam has got to leave this earth.
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Fascist EU in Brussels is natural target. Michel try to save own fat ass. Ass grass.
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Michel also shakes hands with the likes of Arafat, Castro and Kabila, so this doesn't really surprise me (and I'm from Belgium). He's a disgrace to our country.
Iraq has accused the United States of spreading false propaganda by claiming Baghdad has links with al-Qa'ida, despite knowing that Saddam Hussein is helping in the fight against the Islamists. We see 'em out there every day, don't we?
The US Defence Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, claimed that al-Qa'ida was given refuge in northern Iraq after the collapse of the Taliban regime in Afghanistan. But Tariq Aziz, the Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister, said in Baghdad that his country had given arms and ammunition to Kurds who were attacked by al-Qa'ida. No doubt that's possible...
Mr Aziz, who is Christian, insisted that the secular Iraqi government has always been against Islamists. He said that members of al-Qa'ida had attacked forces of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK), led by Jalal Talibani, and the Kurds had then sought help from Baghdad. "We gave Talibani weapons and ammunition, we helped as much as we could," said Mr Aziz. "We are not allowed of course to go into what is called the semi-autonomous region of Kurdistan physically, but the help we gave helped Talibani in his fight for it." He's asking credit for a matter of self-preservation...
"Talibani was among the opposition leaders who went to Washington and spoke to Dick Cheney [US Vice-President] and Rumsfeld. He told them what had happened, so they must know." It's entirely possible this is a true story, despite being carried in The Independent. Ansar al-Islam isn't an integral part of al-Qaeda; it's a clone of it. The fact that Sammy and Tariq saw a danger from them â an Islamist base in Kurdistan that was looking forward to becoming an Islamist base in Iraq proper â and took measures to avert it doesn't mean he's not involved with the mother group. Such involvement, as I've said before, probably isn't a formal agreement, but a sense of being on the same team and the occasional loan of aid and comfort...
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U.S. intelligence has detected a suspected al-Qaida training camp in a remote area of eastern Iran along the border with Afghanistan, sources told NBC News. Overhead imagery shows what appears to be a training camp complete with a terrorist obstacle course and a rifle range, much like those al-Qaida used in Afghanistan to train for assassinations. Just like on the videos...
It has been reported previously that a number of al-Qaida leaders had fled to eastern Iran, but this would be the first evidence that al-Qaida was actually using Iran to resume terrorist training. Sources told NBC News that while Iranâs civilian government may not know the training camp is there, Iranâs military and intelligence certainly would. There was no word Wednesday on possible U.S. efforts to deal with the suspected al-Qaida camp. If it's in fact an al-Qaeda camp, and doesn't belong to Pasdaran or some minigroup, it'll likely be undisturbed as a result of the split between the official government and the actual government in Iran. I imagine this will be left on a back burner until the Iraqis are social democrats...
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Mala [Mullah] Krekar, the leader of a Taliban-like Iraqi Kurdish group, has admitted to links with Osama bin Laden, according to an Iraqi Kurdish newspaper report Wednesday. Kurdistani Nuwe reported that in an interview recorded last November, Krekar, whose real name is Najmuddin Faraj Ahmad, admitted he had met the head of al Qaida network during visits to Afghanistan. The paper, affiliated with the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan that controls the eastern part of Iraqi Kurdistan, quoted Ahmad as saying, "I have visited many countries and met Islamic thinkers like Osama bin Laden and his right-hand man Ayman al Zawahiri who are true, faithful Muslims." That's actually pretty thin. I once met an archbishop, but that never made me a Catholic...
Krekar said members of his Ansar al-Islam, or Supporters of Islam, were proud of the jihad they made in Afghanistan, referring to resistance there to the Russian occupation that ended in 1989. That brings him a little closer to Binny...
Krekar attracted international attention when he headed back to Iraqi Kurdistan from a visit to his family in Norway. Although he had an entry visa from the Iranian Embassy in Oslo, he was not allowed to land at Tehran airport. He then sought to return to Norway but was refused entry there, too. That was mighty nice of the Medes and the Persians. Nice of the Norwegians, too...
Krekar ended up in the Netherlands where he is being held in a high-security prison. Jordan has asked for him to be extradited to face drug trafficking charges in Amman and U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft reportedly has discussed Ahmad with his Dutch counterpart, Piet Hein Donner. The words "stench and pestilence" were used...
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Hindu hardline groups are active in at least 40 U.S. universities operating under different names and are busy spreading "communal feelings" in the Indian community, says a sociologist from New York. Aditi Desai, a former lecturer at Delhi University, has studied Hindu-Muslim relations closely. Based in New York, Desai is a consultant for the U.N. and is an active worker on issues relating to civil society, gender and environment. "These cells with strong leanings to the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) and Bajrang Dal are teaching young minds to hate. Communal feelings are spreading among the NRI community in the U.S. You can almost feel it in the air," Desai said. I hate that Hindu extremism. When you can feel it in the air, it sticks to your teeth. Ucky.
"Funds for these organisations are also coming in substantial amounts from all across the world. After the Gujarat earthquake last year, Indians in the U.S. regardless of caste and creed contributed generously to support the reconstruction process. But this time finances have not been forthcoming for victims of the communal violence. In one city in the U.S. where 1,400 families of Indian origin reside, only $700 was raised. It shows communal divisions have sprouted in the U.S. too." I don't think it's Hindu extremism that we have to worry about at this moment...
The Gujarat violence was blamed mainly on the VHP and Bajrang Dal, both of which are closely linked to the Bharatiya Janata Party, which rules Gujarat. Along with the RSS, India's most influential Hindu group, all these groups are collectively known as the "Sangh Parivar". RSS is the Hindu version of the Brownshirts and should be stamped out in India. Gujarat's supremo, Modi, is a crook and something of a paragon of ineptitude; he should be dumped. But it takes a finely tuned set of extremism detectors to find raging Hindoo extremism in the U.S., unlike Muslim extremism, which people are spending more time than ever scraping off their shoes...
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Ceteris paribus, aren't Islamic harldine groups active in at least 40 US universities operating under different names and are busy spreading "dar al-harb" feelings in the Muslim community the greater threat?
Indian commandos last night stormed a Hindu temple in Gujarat killing two gunmen who, in a 14-hour siege, killed 30 people and wounded more than 70. When people go to a church or a temple, they're less likely to be armed, y'know...
Witnesses reported heavy firing between the National Security Guard commandos and the gunmen in the early hours at the temple in the state's commercial capital of Gandhinagar. The commandos, flown in earlier from Dehli, to end a siege which had continued since the late afternoon assault by the gunmen, who were armed with automatic weapons and grenades. The violence  in which Indian officials said six women and four children died  prompted fears of more slaughter in the fractious western state. That's the whole idea...
"The two attackers were killed shortly after daybreak," said Brigadier Raj Sitapathy, who led the commando raid. There was no immediate claim of responsibility for the attack, but India's deputy prime minister blamed the attack on Pakistan and linked it to the elections in disputed Kashmir. My guess would be the usual suspects, Lashkar e-Taiba or Jaish e-Mohammad...
Until the commando assault, the attackers had controlled part of the temple complex and had been trading fire with the troops and snipers had surrounded them. A police official said that up to 50 people had been taken hostage. Brig. Sitapathy told The Associated Press that two letters were recovered from the attackers, whose identities have not been determined. He said the gunmen were "clean shaven, dressed in civilian clothes and appeared to be in early 20s." I'd suspect the letters were a plant. If I was going to kill 30 or 40 people and expected to be knocked off myself, I wouldn't be carrying a letter indicating where I came from...
Deputy Prime Minister Lal K. Advani, speaking to reporters in New Delhi, described the shooting as a suicide attack. "The enemies of the nation feel that the developments in Jammu and Kashmir are strengthening India's viewpoint, and that a big attack could divert attention from there. I see in this a very deliberate design," he said. See? Advani's not very bright, but it doesn't take a 3-digit IQ to figure that...
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Gunmen stormed the offices of a Christian welfare organization in Karachi today, tying seven office workers to their chairs before shooting each in the head at close range. At one other person was critically injured. The shootings took place in the thirdâfloor offices of the Institute for Peace and Justice, or IdaraâeâAmnâoâInsaf, a Pakistani Christian charity. Victims were tied with their hands behind their backs and their mouths taped before being shot pointâblank in the head, according to Karachi Police Chief Kamal Shah. All seven of the dead were Pakistani Christians. It was not clear who was behind the attack. Yeah. Was it Sipah i-Sahaba, or Lashkar e-Jhangvi? They're the usual suspects...
Mr Shah said police are questioning an office assistant who was tied up and beaten by the attackers, but not shot. Police want to know how the gunmen got into the office, which had an electronic door that could only be opened from the inside, he said. The office assistant has told police there were two gunmen involved in the shooting, he said. Since he wasn't executed like the others, they might have been relatives...
The Christian group has been working for 30 years with poor municipal and textile workers to press for basic worker rights, and organizing programs with local human rights groups. That's certainly grounds for killing them like dogs, by any Islamic standard...
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Sipah-e-Sahaba or Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, there's a difference? It seems the Lashkar is a deathsquad set up by Sipah so that they could become a 'legitimate' political party and could deny the wholesale massacres of Shia heretics. This seems likely since when the top Lashkar guys have been killed they are wrapped in the Sipah flag, and when one of them got arrested the leader of the Sipah did everything possible to get them released. Although it's possible that they have 'gone rogue' at some point in the last few years
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President Leonid Kuchma bowed to opposition pressure on Wednesday, meeting leaders who spent the night on hunger strike squatting in the corridors of his offices, but he bluntly rejected their demands for him to quit. "I'm a dictator. Dictators don't quit until they're hanging from lamp posts..."
Under pressure from Washington over allegations he approved the sale of an early warning radar system to Iraq, the veteran leader told the opposition he would hold an open hearing on the arms sales charges and officials said he did not do it. Do what? Form the committee? Or approve the arms sales?
NATO Secretary General George Robertson called on Ukraine on Wednesday to explain allegations of arms sales to Iraq and said relations between the alliance and Kiev had hit a "tricky moment". Even though they're not too closely related, Ukrainian sounds an awful lot like German...
"I can tell you that there is a very serious atmosphere on this subject and some very serious questions still remain to be answered," Robertson told a news conference in Warsaw after a two-day meeting of NATO defence ministers. "Ukraine? Aren't they part of Russia? Oh, you mean not yet... I mean, not anymore..."
The United States has alleged that Ukraine sold Iraq a sophisticated early warning system that tracks aircraft without giving itself away. Yep. I'd call that an unfriendly act...
It has suspended more than $50 million in aid to Ukraine after saying it had authenticated a July 2000 recording of Kuchma giving the chief of his arms export agency the go-ahead to sell the surveillance system to Baghdad. Whoa! Got him on tape, did they?
Ukrainian opposition leaders, who this month led some of the biggest anti-Kuchma protests since the country won independence from the Soviet Union more than 10 years ago, said they had won an important victory by forcing him to agree to talk. Kuchma's a bad boy. He had some promise, back when Ukraine was going its own way from the Soviet Union, but he settled into the president-for-life routine pretty quickly. He's a fellow whose time has gone...
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Here it is: A transcript of the conversation analyzed by the United States and given to Reuters by a U.S. official cites a Jordanian -- an apparent reference to the reported presence in Ukraine of front companies seeking equipment for Saddam.
"There is a need for a special operation. We were approached by Iraq through our Jordanian intermediary. They want to buy four Kolchuga stations and offer one hundred million dollars right away," Valery Malev, the former arms export chief since killed in a car crash, is quoted as saying.
"What is Kolchuga?" Kuchma asks. "Kolchuga is a passive radar station manufactured by Topaz," Malev replies, referring to the manufacturer in the Ukrainian city of Donetsk.
"Can you sell it without the Jordanian?" Kuchma is quoted as asking. Malev tells Kuchma another Ukrainian company ships its products in crates that could be used to transport the system. He adds: "Then, we will send our people there with forged passports to deploy the system and launch it."
"Just watch that the Jordanian keeps his mouth shut... They can detect the shipment," Kycham is quoted as saying.
"Who is going to detect it? We do not sell a lot there. I mean to Jordan," Malev replies. "OK. Go ahead," says Kuchma.
The Kolchuga is a passive radar system that listens for rf emissions and tracks aircraft and ground targets without giving itself away.
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Just read my own post and noticed this:Valery Malev, the former arms export chief since killed in a car crash. Car crash, hummm?
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It's really bad luck to know too much about a dictator's doings. Nice snag on the transcript, Steve!
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American schoolchildren were evacuated from a rebel-held city under French military escort Wednesday as U.S. special forces landed to help rescue Westerners caught in an uprising. A convoy of 10 to 12 cars left rebel-held Bouake for Yamoussoukro, 65 kilometers (40 miles) to the south, where U.S. special forces in C-130 cargo planes arrived hours earlier to receive them. The children swung American flags out windows of the cars as the convoy headed down the region's main road, after a new night of sporadic gunfire outside the International Christian Academy. Shooting up kiddies is a very rebellious thing to do, especially when they're unarmed...
Some of the youngsters leaned out the windows to yell "Vive la France!" at a French convoy headed the other way, into Bouake. That's French for, "Hooray for the Frenchies!"
About 100 American children attend the mission boarding school in Bouake, intended for sons and daughters of missionaries based across Africa. Another 60 children also attend the school, which has a staff of 40, most of whom are American. About 100 French troops moved into the whitewashed compound early Wednesday, securing the school after rebel forces breached the walls two days earlier to fire out from its grounds. French forces were evacuating as many Westerners in the school and surrounding neighborhood as chose to leave. The school appeared to be empty after the evacuation. Guess everybody wanted to leave — nobody wanted to have any limbs cut off...
About 300 Americans live in the city. The United States deployed about 200 soldiers, mostly special forces, to Ghana overnight to aid in any rescue missions as Ivory Coast battles to put down the coup. Bouake and the northern opposition stronghold of Korhogo fell into rebel hands during a bloody coup attempt last Thursday. The rebellion centers on about 800 soldiers who were sacked for suspected subversive intentions. Guess sacking them was a good idea...
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It appears the French Foreign Legion has retained the Gallic spine of the resistance and we should show them their due thanks. I remain unimpressed by the rest. It's a start though
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Hamas will continue to send suicide bombers to Israel in defiance of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat's renewed call for such attacks to stop and has no fear of an Israeli plan to invade the Gaza Strip, a top Hamas official said Wednesday. Khaled Mashaal, head of Hamas Politburo, said the 2-year-old "intifada and resistance in all its forms including the martyrdom operations" will continue. Mashaal, speaking during a news conference in Damascus, defended suicide operations as "a legitimate right" for the Palestinians people. Eventually all of them will have exercised their legitimate rights, and there won't be any more Paleostinians...
Arafat, who has been isolated in his headquarters in the West Bank city of Ramallah along with some 200 aides, refused to surrender to the Israeli forces but called for halting suicide attacks. The Paleos seem to missing the point that this whole exercise is making Yasser look more and more irrelevant. Since the Israelis have been saying that about him all along, guess which side's looking dumber?
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"200 aides"? Is this ReuterSpeak for "195 gunnies and five cooks"?
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"Aides" sounds so much classier than "psychopaths" or even "bandidos."
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If they cut the power and water, that bunch's gotta be gettin' pretty ripe, ya know? Not enough Babywipes for 200...and it would be a terrible shame if Arafat's cellphone crapped out...how long do those batteries last?
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Other than the obvious answer. Why does the cell phone still connect to anywhere.
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West Bank intelligence chief Tewfik Tirawi said he and Palestinian President Yasser Arafat will fight till the last minute. Tirawi, besieged with Arafat and whose surrender Israel demands, said the Palestinian leader and he would fight until the end, in an interview published Wednesday, September 25. "Yassergrad will never surrender!"
âI have never given up in my life. I donât know what surrender is. "... I'm not too sure how many ounces in a pound. I don't know what the capital of Venezuela is, or whether Esquimeaux really kiss that way. But..."
"I have the right and the obligation to defend myself. I intend to fight. Both Yasser Arafat and I will fight until the last minute,â he told the Israeli daily Maâariv. âI look at your tanks, at the snipers, at the whole army, and feel joy. Because I know that these two rooms, in which we are huddled together with president Arafat, are stronger than all this might.â "You and me, together, to the end. Ain't it, Yasser?"
"Ummm... They say Bucharest is pretty this time of year..."
"Between the two of us, we can take on the whole world, ol' buddy!"
"And there's all that money, just waiting in Geneva..."
"Danger? We laugh! Haw haw!"
"My wife's only 29... Well, maybe 35... And she's hot... And she's got those crotchless underwear... And I'm only 73. I've got a lotta productive years left..."
Tirawi has been confined, together with another 250 people, to the last building still standing in Arafatâs Ramallah compound, since it was invaded and razed by the Israeli army on September 19. He is the most senior official on a list of people whose surrender Israel demands before lifting the siege. But Tirawi rejected the Israeli accusations of being directly involved in âterrorist activity.â "Me? A terrorist? You terrorized, Yasser?"
"Ngk!"
âI challenge you: Show me this information, any proof, about carrying out terror attacks in Israel,â he told Maâariv. âI am a wanted man because I am a patriot. It is a political decision, it is not connected to security.â "Those killings? Y'can't pin nuttin' on me, coppers! All the witnesses are dead, ain't they?"
When asked whether he thought Palestinian attacks against Israeli soldiers and Jewish settlers were legitimate, Tirawi said: âTry seeing it from my point of view. The army attacked us with great might. They kill us, occupy us, carry out demolitions, shoot at us, murder us, kill our officers and people. You invade Ramallah with tanks. So you want us to stand around and throw flowers at you?â "Yeah, they attacked us, with no provocation! We wuz just standin' around, mindin' our own bidnid, and they come up and start hasslin' us..."
In another interview published Tuesday by a Lebanese newspaper, Tirawi said Israel had demanded his surrender because he refuses any alternative to Yasser Arafat. "Mein Fuehrer, right or wrong!"
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Source: Palestine Information Centre Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, founder and spiritual leader of the Islamic Resistance Movement, Hamas, has addressed a message to Palestinian Authority chief Yasser Arafat asking him to remain steadfast and not to surrender to the Hebrew state. Yassin, who shared in a march organized in Gaza by national and Islamic forces in solidarity with Arafat, said that the Zionist siege of Arafat and his aides and security men in Ramallah targeted an end to the intifada and resistance. They march in support, but they ignore him...
The Hamas leader said, "My message to Arafat is: Do not surrender to Zionist demands, the enemy wants an end to resistance and intifada, and that end will entail defeat. You have to remain steadfast until the enemy is defeated". The Sheikh advised Arafat, "Keep your head up high and die in dignity and do not die in defeat and humiliation. Caving in and ending resistance mean the defeat for the Palestinian people. Thus we should always work for continuation of resistance to defeat the enemy and to force it give us back our rights". "But make sure you die, okay? 'Cuz we need a martyr, and we can harp on you pegging out for years to come..."
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Oh, and by the way Yasser? Would you happen to have the account numbers and passwords for those swiss bank accounts? We'll safeguard the stash for you! No, really!
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Thailand has asked Malaysia to help capture five Muslims over what it claimed was their 'terrorist' activities. Thai security authorities believe that the men who it said include a 'bomb expert' trained in Afghanistan, are hiding out in Malaysia. The Malaysian officials swiftly responded, saying that if found, they would cooperate with the Thai authorities. "We will investigate their claim that the rebels are in Malaysia. If we capture them, we will hand them over to Thai authoritie," said a police spokesman. "We don't want 'em. We have enough nutcases of our own..."
The men allegedly belong to three Muslim separatist groups in Pattani in southern Thailand, and the authorities there have offered rewards of up to US$7,900 for information leading to their arrest. Thailand said intelligence reports indicated the five were in Malaysia. A police spokesman was quoted by the Malay Mail newspaper as saying that they are "hiding somewhere" in one of five Malaysian states: Kelantan, Terengganu, Kuala Lumpur, Perak and Kedah. That's a fairly large area. I won't hold my breath until they're apprehended... Having lived in Thailand myself, I can well understand why proper Islamists would want to destroy their society. The Thais do all sorts of un-Islamic things: singing, dancing, laughing, that sort of thing. They lack a proper love of explosives, and they seldom kill anyone without reason. Truly, they're a threat to the most basic tenets of Islam.
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Thais do too like explosives. If they are in fireworks! Never saw a people so fond of loud bangs and bright flashes.
Considering the minimum wage in the provinces is about $3.50 a day, $7900 is a pretty good reward. They may catch 'em.
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About 1,500 militant Muslims from various regions in Java and Sumatra attended a mass anti-U.S. rally in Surakata on Wednesday and declared they were ready to wage a jihad against Washington. Sounds like a declaration of war to me. We ignore these things at our own peril, no matter how stoopid, as we can see from Binny's declaration of war. So roll out the B52s, and g'bye Indonesian nutbags...
Secretary-general of the Front for the Defenders of Islam (FPI) Ahmad Sobri Lubis said that the rally was held to protest allegations by members of the international community that the al-Qaeda network was active in Indonesia and that Indonesian Islamic leader Abubakar Ba'asyir was involved with international terrorist networks. "We declared at the rally that Indonesian Muslims should never trust any statement from the U.S. government as long as they continue repressing Muslims in Afghanistan," Lubis said. "Everyone who attended the rally is waiting for instructions from their leaders to stage a jihad against America," he told AFP following the 90 minute-rally, which ended shortly before dusk. Most people, at least those who haven't been dropped on their heads, would demand proof, or, if they've got it, refute it, rather than declaring war...
The rally was decided on last week during a meeting at a Muslim boarding school headed by Ba'asyir in Ngruki, near the Central Java city of Surakata. Participants at the rally also gave their "ultimate support" for Ba'asyir, whose name, Lubis said, had been "smeared" by a Time magazine report and accusations of links to terrorists by Malaysia and Singapore. 'Nother words, the Front for the Defenders of Islam is actually the Front for the Defenders of Abubakar... Thanks to Steve for the link!
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A militant Islamist group in Kurdish-held northern Iraq accused of having links to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda group is near collapse after the recent arrest of its leader, an Iraqi Kurdish faction said Wednesday. The Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, which controls the eastern half of the region that has been out of Baghdad's grip since the end of the 1991 Gulf War, said fighters from the Ansar al-Islam (Supporters of Islam) group had begun surrendering to the PUK following the arrest of their leader Mullah Krekar. "There has been a complete internal collapse since the arrest of their leader," a PUK official said, speaking by telephone from the Syrian capital, Damascus. "There were five more yesterday," he added. Having Mullah Krekar arrested damages the hell out of the old morale. More importantly, he knows the guys with the money. No money, no groceries, no arms, no ammunition... Another one courtesy of Steve...
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Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld got up and left the room just before his German counterpart spoke during informal talks in Poland, a move he insisted Wednesday was not meant as a snub to his German counterpart. The poke in the eye, on the other hand...
Rumsfeld acknowledged that he left one of Tuesday's late-evening sessions early, but said it was not intended to cause affront. He noted, however, that Defense Minister Peter Struck was not present during part of the meeting in the afternoon. He was in his room, sobbing his heart out, 'cuz nobody likes him and he dint do nuttin'!
"It's not for me to give advice to other countries," Rumsfeld said. "We have a saying in America, if you're in a hole, stop digging... I'm not sure I should have said that," Rumsfeld said. "Can we pretend I didn't say that?" No, we can't. And stop hitting him there. He'll get cancer or something...
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09/25/2002 12:53 pm ||
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A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.
Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing
the drug and gang related violence in Mexico.
Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence
over three years, presented in a multi volume set intended to chronicle the death, violence and mayhem which has
dominated Mexico for six years.
Rantburg was assembled from recycled algorithms in the United States of America. No
trees were destroyed in the production of this weblog. We did hurt some, though. Sorry.
