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-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
9 People, Including Family Of 6, in Precautionary Quarantine In CT Over Ebola Concerns
[FoxNews] A family of six was quarantined in West Haven, Conn. Wednesday after returning from a trip to West Africa, the city's health director said.

The office of West Haven Mayor Edward O'Brien said the family, which returned to Connecticut on Saturday, was not showing any signs of Ebola, FoxCT.com reported. They were flagged by Transportation Security Administration officials at John F. Kennedy International Airport because of their travel to West Africa, although officials have not said which country they had been in.

According to the Connecticut Department of Health, the department issued four quarantine orders in the state, involving nine people. None of the individuals are sick and do not present a risk to public health, officials said.

The quarantine is precautionary and will last the standard 21-day period, a time frame during which health officials say symptoms would surface if anyone has contracted the deadly virus.

The quarantine comes one day after the Centers for Disease Control announced that all travelers arriving in the U.S. from the three Ebola-stricken African countries -- Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea -- will be subject to a 21-day monitoring program.
The family is staying in a residential home in the city, O'Brien said, although he did not say whether the family was city residents or visitors.

"There's nothing to be afraid of. There is no Ebola in West Haven," O'Brien told FoxCT.com.

The family members are checking themselves for the virus and reporting to the state health department by phone.

The quarantine comes one day after the Centers for Disease Control announced that all travelers arriving in the U.S. from the three Ebola-stricken African countries -- Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea -- will be subject to a 21-day monitoring program.

Returning travelers will have to give authorities an address, two phone numbers and two email addresses, as well as the address of a personal contact. They will get kits and be required to take their temperatures once per day and report to public health authorities, for 21 days.

The program will start Monday in six states: New York, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Virginia, New Jersey and Georgia.

Meanwhile,
...back at the shouting match, Bart was wondering if fisticuffs would be appropriate at this point...
several states are taking the Ebola crisis into their own hands, by tapping emergency funds in their budgets, launching treatment units and holding public hearings to stanch the spread of misinformation about the virus.

The lines of responsibility for what the federal government and what the states should be doing have blurred in recent days, amid questions over guidance initially provided by the CDC.

But the states touched by the outbreak scare, including Ohio where one Ebola patient visited before returning to Dallas, are scrambling to shore up their medical lines of defense.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/24/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Not good news for Eboma.
Posted by: Ebbomosh Hupemp2664 || 10/24/2014 0:57 Comments || Top||

#2  Will he close the borders now? No.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/24/2014 5:51 Comments || Top||

#3  The odious Geraldo Rivera is on Fox as we speak insisting that "this is war" and a total blockade on travel to and from the affected African nations be initiated immediately. Perhaps the scales are falling away.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/24/2014 8:17 Comments || Top||

#4  I am surprised, Geraldo usually has nothing to say of any use.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/24/2014 8:41 Comments || Top||

#5  Despite history rewritten by leftest progressives, temporary relocation [quarantine if you will] does not necessarily have to be a negative experience. Ansel Adams photographs.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/24/2014 8:53 Comments || Top||

#6  Ebola in Red states? Geraldo says no need for a ban on travel from Liberia.

Ebola in NYC? Geraldo says "BAN TRAVEL, QUARANTINE!!"

Where does Geraldo live again??
Posted by: AlanC || 10/24/2014 11:20 Comments || Top||

#7  Getting serious in Texas about Ebola precautions. They are spraying Tabasco sauce on PPE to verify its proper function and utilization.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/24/2014 14:41 Comments || Top||

#8  Accordingto the Connecticut Department of Health, the department issued four quarantine orders in the state, involving nine people.

States doing the job the Feds can't or won't.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/24/2014 14:48 Comments || Top||

#9  States doing the job the Feds can't or won't. CT is the only state I know of that is doing the mandatory quarantine of everyone arriving from the Hot Zone. At least one of our 50 is not AWOL and is taking this issue seriously.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/24/2014 15:26 Comments || Top||

#10  Fine photos Beoserker, the paleos should bless their idol that it was the jooooooooooos and not the Jaaaaaaaaps that made the desert bloom.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/24/2014 16:19 Comments || Top||

#11  This afternoon both NY and NJ tightened their screening and quarantine policies for people coming in from the Hot Zone:

In a major new state policy for New York and New Jersey, Governors Andrew Cuomo and Chris Christie announced a mandatory quarantine for people returning to the U.S. through area airports who are deemed "high risk."

"We have informed the CDC of our intention and they have agreed that states have the right to establish their own guidelines" with regards to Ebola, Cuomo said.

In the first application of the new set of standards, the states quarantined the female healthcare worker who was returning after taking care of Ebola patients in Sierra Leone.

"We are no longer relying on CDC standards, these are New York and New Jersey standards. And we need New York and New Jersey health officials to work with the CDC to make sure our standards are met before admission to either states," said Gov. Christie.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/24/2014 22:04 Comments || Top||

#12  Other comments on the mandatory quarantine order:

An automatic three-week quarantine makes sense for anyone "with a clear exposure" to Ebola, said Dr. Richard Wenzel, a Virginia Commonwealth University scientist who formerly led the International Society for Infectious Diseases.

Aid organizations such as Doctors Without Borders, the group Spencer was working for, have argued that mandatory quarantines are unnecessary because people with Ebola aren't contagious until symptoms begin, and even then it requires close contact with body fluids.

Also, aid groups have warned that many health care volunteers wouldn't go to Ebola hot zones if they knew they would be confined to their homes for three weeks after they got back.
"A three-week complete quarantine would eliminate two-thirds to three-quarters of the volunteers from the U.S." going to West Africa, said Dr. Rick Sacra, a Massachusetts physician who was recently infected in Liberia but recovered. "They wouldn't be able to spare the time."
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/24/2014 22:11 Comments || Top||

#13  NY Post said another US physician who treated Ebola patients in the Hot Zone came through JFK & is on his way back home to Palo Alto, between yesterday & today. He will be self-monitoring.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/24/2014 22:22 Comments || Top||


Mali the sixth West African country to confirm an Ebola case
Posted by: anon1 || 10/24/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:


NYC has first Ebola case: Physician back from Guinea a week tests positive
Dr. Craig Spencer, who recently returned from disease-wracked West African country Guinea after working with Doctors Without Borders, hit the lanes in Williamsburg and used Uber taxis to get around, sources said. The shocking revelation that Spencer was roaming around town — after first telling authorities he self-quarantined himself — emerged after the 33-year-old was hauled off to Bellevue Hospital in a protective suit with symptoms of the deadly disease.
The best quarantine plans in the world can't treat stupidity or irresponsibility...
How will he feel if he not only has the disease, but shared it with Harlem and beyond? Idiot. This is considerably worse than all the cancer researchers who smoke like chimneys because they know they'll find a cure before it becomes a problem to them.
A Harlem doctor who treated Ebola patients in West Africa before returning to New York earlier this month has tested positive for the deadly disease - the first such diagnosis in the city.

Dr. Craig Spencer, 33, was hauled off Thursday to Bellevue Hospital in a protective suit with symptoms of the deadly disease. Sources said his temperature was normal when he landed at Kennedy Airport 10 days ago. But it spiked to a 103-degree fever by early Thursday. And he was vomiting, the sources said.

FDNY hazardous materials specialists sealed-off Spencer’s apartment on W. 147th St. and took the doctor out on a stretcher.

Test results were released about 8:30 p.m. Thursday night.

While sources said Spencer claimed to have self-quarantined after feeling ill, he was at a pair of bowling spots in Willliamsburg, Brooklyn on Wednesday. He used Uber taxis to get around, sources said.

An agitated woman who identified herself as Spencer’s fiancée showed up later at Bellevue. She has since been quarantined, sources said.
The Sydney Morning Herald adds:
Dr Spencer is a fellow of international emergency medicine at NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital/Columbia University Medical Center, and an instructor in clinical medicine at Columbia University.
Impressive.
"He is a committed and responsible physician who always puts his patients first," the hospital said in a statement. "He has not been to work at our hospital and has not seen any patients at our hospital since his return from overseas."
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/24/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Dr Spencer is a fellow of international emergency medicine at NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital/Columbia University Medical Center, and an instructor in clinical medicine at Columbia University.

Dr. Spencer may be brave and noble and smart, but he is also an idiot. To go from treating Ebola patients to walking around New York without some sort of quarantine period is beyond reckless.

Part of the problem may be the difficulty our chimp brains have with non-linear phenomena. One week you feel fine, next week you have a touch of the flu, the week after, you are dead. No slow period of decline, just the exponential growth of the number of virus particles in your body.

Note that the good doctor passed airport sceening, but 10 days later, was vomiting with a fever of 103. There is a lesson here, The way to shut this thing down is to break the chains of contact. So far, I am not impressed with the response of what is supposed to be a world-class medical system.

On the other hand, I have noticed a diminuation in the number of fat l*sbians and the amount of trans fats in cookies so the CDC&P has not been totally useless.
Posted by: SteveS || 10/24/2014 4:12 Comments || Top||

#2  You come near an Ebola patient, you sit it out for 21 days.

Come on, get it sorted.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 10/24/2014 4:34 Comments || Top||

#3  This guy has been wandering about NYC. You'd think he would know better being a doctor. Everyone coming from an Ebola country ought to be quarantined for 21 days prior to entering the U.S. or there ought to be restrictions on entering the country until the epidemic gets tamped down in these countries.

Apparently, "quarantine" has become a banished word in the communist lexicon thanks to PC. At one time, quarantines were fairly routine in the U.S. as a tool to halt the spread of contagious and dangerous diseases. We have lost all common sense.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/24/2014 8:39 Comments || Top||

#4  NYPD doing an OUTSTANDING job with the Ebola protocols
Posted by: Frank G || 10/24/2014 9:32 Comments || Top||

#5  From a NYT link Pappy posted in another thread:

Dr. Spencer’s fiancée has also been quarantined at Bellevue. Two other friends, who had contact with him on Tuesday and Wednesday, have been told by the authorities that they too will be quarantined but whether they will isolate themselves in their homes or be relocated was still under discussion, according to a person briefed on the investigation. None of the three were showing signs of illness.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/24/2014 10:46 Comments || Top||

#6  SteveS is's been reported that the temperature was 100.3, so I'd cut a little more slack.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/24/2014 13:03 Comments || Top||

#7  You come near an Ebola patient, you sit it out for 21 days.
I wonder what the protocols are for the NIH and Emory hospital Ebola caretakers. Do they just live inside the hospitals? It would almost make sense.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/24/2014 15:22 Comments || Top||

#8  An agitated woman a case of denial breaking down can be horrible to watch. I wonder if she will still marry that physician. What would you do?
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/24/2014 15:24 Comments || Top||

#9  It's all crap paid actors not one person that has gone in sick has had symptoms released in press nor one interview given by any one of them except the few?!?(ungrateful for not having e bola and not wanting their 15 minutes )4 living with someone puking bleeding and shitting all over nobody sick ? one billion a piece just to keep them chained up producing blood and antibodies weird huh? People being whisked away from hospitals in Kansas Alex Jones ? Just the BLM getting dates for the Halloween Ball howz about a kiss baby bloody tongue is bloody good and the holes come pre lubed! Happy Halloween!
Posted by: Whulet Shavins7256 || 10/24/2014 19:09 Comments || Top||


After Scare, Lebanese Man Tests Negative For Ebola
[Ynet] A Lebanese man who arrived in Beirut from West Africa believing he may have Ebola was reassured by doctors that he is disease free but was still taken into a hospital quarantine on Thursday as a practice run to check the country's preparedness, a health official said.

The case initially raised concerns because it was announced by the health minister, Wael Abu Faour, who said earlier in the day that Leb had quarantined a man suspected of having Ebola. The announcement came after days of warnings by the government that the country was at a high risk of exposure to the disease.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/24/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


-Land of the Free
Another School Shooting
Gunfire erupted at Marysville Pilchuck High School on Friday morning.
Early reports included word of fatalities, but that is not confirmed.
Police scanner chatter indicates that there may be three deaths and six people injured.
At least five people were being rushed to area hospitals. Providence Regional Medical Center Everett had received four patients, a spokeswoman said. There was no immediate confirmed information on their ages or their conditions.
Unconfirmed reports were that somebody came into the high school cafeteria, approached a table and opened fire on students.
Posted by: Glenmore || 10/24/2014 15:25 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Located about 35 miles north of Seattle; close enough but not really a suburb.
Tragic on many counts, including the impact on freedom, with the vote on Iniative 594 underway.
Posted by: Glenmore || 10/24/2014 15:36 Comments || Top||

#2  seattletimes reports the shooter was a Native American that was rebuffed by a girl and the target of bullying.
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 10/24/2014 18:41 Comments || Top||

#3  Wolf Blitzer tried to make this story about the need for gun control (which to him means outlawing guns and gun confiscation). The kid who was the shooter was a freshman, had good grades, was popular, and an athlete. Wolf failed to mention it was illegal for the kid to have a firearm in school or that he was too young to have a firearm. He also didn't question where he got the firearm. Sheeesh! Another lefty dimwit MSM guy pushing his personal agenda.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/24/2014 19:17 Comments || Top||

#4  or that he was too young to have a firearm. I should have said that he was too young to own a firearm and use it without adult supervision present. There are many young people who are responsible shooters and compete in sponsored shooting events.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/24/2014 19:20 Comments || Top||

#5  I read the shooter was the homecoming king rebuffed by a girl.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 10/24/2014 20:37 Comments || Top||

#6  From the Daily Mail:

Homecoming king gunman, 15, who had just returned from suspension opened fire in school cafeteria killing one and injuring four before he shot himself dead
o Jaylen Fryberg, 15, opened fire at 10.39am Marysville-Pilchuck High School

o He shot five people, killing one, before fatally shooting himself

o Four of the victims are in critical condition in hospital, one may be his cousin

o Classmates described Fryberg as popular, he was a homecoming prince

o Fryberg, a Native-American, was 'suspended from the team for fighting'

o Witnesses said he had a 'blank stare', there was 'blood all over the cafeteria'

o The presumed murder weapon, a .40 caliber Beretta handgun, was recovered at the scene, it is believed to be his father's gun

o A classmate said Fryberg was angry that a girl at the school rejected him

o He posted his last tweet last night, it read: 'It won't last... It'll never last...'

o School in Marysville, 30 miles north of Seattle, closed until November 3

PUBLISHED: 13:37 EST, 24 October 2014 | UPDATED: 19:54 EST, 24 October 2014
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/24/2014 21:17 Comments || Top||


Africa Horn
South Sudan's women suggest Lysistrata strike to end the war
[ARABNEWS] A group of South Sudanese women peace activists has suggested that men in the civil war-torn country be denied sex until they stop fighting.
Having an AK in hands, locked and loaded may help, too...
The suggestion emerged after around 90 women, including several members of South Sudan's Parliament, met in the capital Juba this week to come up with ideas on how "to advance the cause of peace, healing and reconciliation."

A key suggestion was to "mobilize all women in South Sudan to deny their husbands conjugal rights until they ensure that peace returns," organizers said in a statement Thursday.

Other proposals included finding ways to meet the wives of President Salva Kiir and his arch-rival, rebel chief Riek Machar, to "ask them to join the search for peace and reconciliation by impressing upon their husbands to stop the war."

Civilians have been massacred, patients murdered in hospitals and people killed while sheltering in churches.

Almost 100,000 people are sheltering in squalid UN peacekeeping bases fearing they will be killed if they leave.

Tobias Atari Okori, from the government-backed South Sudan Peace and Reconciliation Commission, acknowledged that the idea highlighted that people were desperate for the war to end.

"People are experiencing great suffering, and it is the women, children and the aged who are suffering the worst," he told AFP.

The UN special envoy on sexual violence Zainab Bangura said this month the levels of rape are the worst she had ever seen.
Posted by: Fred || 10/24/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The Greek ladies knew that rape wasn't as much fun for their men as good old fashioned consensual neuki. I'm not so sure the same applies to barbarians.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 10/24/2014 11:25 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Interior Ministry issues warning against women driving
[ARABNEWS] The Interior Ministry issued on Thursday a strong warning to anyone participating in demonstrations or sending messages in favor of a campaign for women to be allowed to drive in the Kingdom.

âIn continuation of an announcement made on Oct 23 last year with regard to some provocative calls to organize banned meetings and demonstrations in favour of women's driving on social networks and in a section of media, the ministry states that it has noticed some attempts being made to repeat the call for the violation of the accepted values of the Kingdom that prohibit women's driving. The Interior Ministry affirms it will take firm steps against any one who contributes in any method or engage in any activity that would lead to provide an opportunity to those who are lying in wait to tear up the social cohesion, spread disunity and division of the community,â spokesman of the Interior Ministry said in a statement.
Posted by: Fred || 10/24/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Saudi Arabia

#1  Spread disunity? Seems Sod is an absolutionist in disunity.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 10/24/2014 11:26 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
Despite Riches, Venezuela Starts Food Rationing
[ONLINE.WSJ] Government Rolls Out Fingerprint Scanners to Limit Purchases of Basic Goods; 'How Is it Possible We've Gotten to This Extreme'
Y'all just keep voting 'Commie.' Or is the 'C' for 'Chavez?'
Posted by: Fred || 10/24/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  A "National Food Service"! communism always cures obesity, at least for the proles.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 10/24/2014 4:37 Comments || Top||

#2  It might be instructive to remember which president initiated the War Rationing programme in the illustration. It's not about rationing, it's about control.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/24/2014 5:22 Comments || Top||

#3  Yet another socialist utopia attains its natural destination.

This is what Champ and the proggies long to see in the US. Why can't everyone see this? The elites see it and say good because they will be those in control.

But what about everyone else?
Posted by: AlanC || 10/24/2014 8:09 Comments || Top||

#4  Everyone in line is so orderly and well-dressed. Can't imagine it would be so civilized today.
Posted by: RandomJD || 10/24/2014 8:20 Comments || Top||

#5  Here's one commodity shortage we won't have to contend with. Link
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/24/2014 8:27 Comments || Top||

#6  It is difficult to understand why so many useful idiots buy the garbage the left is spooning up.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/24/2014 8:33 Comments || Top||

#7  Reports are that the scanners aren't 'talking' with their systems and not enough scanners have been installed (the stores have to pay $150US to acquire them as well.)

At least it (probably) didn't cost as much to implement as a healthcare.gov website...
Posted by: Pappy || 10/24/2014 10:34 Comments || Top||

#8  This is intended to take the pressure off of toilet paper rationing, that was instituted last month. (It sort of follows, right?)
Posted by: ed in texas || 10/24/2014 11:34 Comments || Top||

#9  More planning! More control! That's the ticket, always works!
Posted by: KBK || 10/24/2014 12:50 Comments || Top||

#10  “If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in five years there'd be a shortage of sand.”

― Milton Friedman
Posted by: mossomo || 10/24/2014 13:11 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Russia Now Has More Deployed Nuclear Warheads than the U.S.
h/t Instapundit
The New Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (New START) that the U.S. State Department and the Obama Administration championed has been a bad deal for the U.S. Despite the fact that the U.S.’s international security obligations are vastly different from Russia’s, the treaty codified that the U.S. will have the same number of nuclear warheads as Russia. Now for the first time, according to the latest New START data exchange, Russia actually has more actively deployed nuclear warheads than the U.S.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/24/2014 14:30 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What's the mineshaft ratio?
Posted by: Shipman || 10/24/2014 16:21 Comments || Top||


Donbas militias prepare for Ukrainian offensive


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By Chris Covert
Rantburg.com

Donetsk militia leaders and Russian journalists continue to claim that the Ukrainian military are preparing to mount an offensive in western Donetsk, accoriding to various reports.

A video released Thursday by the former Donetsk Minister of Defense, GRU Colonel Igor Girkin warned that an increase in the tempo of ground and artillery attacks and a massing of troops to the immediate west of Donetsk city presages a renewed offensive.

The combatants in the six month old war are supposed to be operating under a truce agreed to last month, in which both sides are required to withdraw their forces and heavy weapons. Up until a few days ago, both sides appeared to be doing just that.

However, direct and artillery attacks have taken place in a number of places in western Donetsk and north Lugansk.

According to the summaries of the main talking points, Ukrainian forces are massing west of Mariupol and Donetsk, and forces have been seen massing near Debalstevo, northeast of Donetsk city. Girkin said an increase of artillery strikes, including the use of tactical ballistic missiles, and increased activity by reconnaissance groups are all hallmarks of a pending Ukrainian offensive.

According to the video summary, the probable date of the offensive is unknown, but Donetsk city is the likely target. Girkin goes on to explain that the Ukrainian military could attempt another pincer operation similar to the one early last August, which was intended to isolate Donetsk oblast (province) from its sister oblast, Lugansk. In that operation Ukrainian forces drove due west into the Ilovaisk region and attempted to link up with another force then operating at Krasnii Luch further north.

After two weeks of heavy fighting and a last minute withdrawal of a critical Ukrainian military formation, the operation failed. Both sides agree losses for the Ukrainian side were significant. The Ukrainian military claims close to 900 killed, but Donetsk militias claim more than 2,000 dead.

The claim that the truce would be ended with a Ukrainian military offensive has been a part of the pro Russian militia rumor mill, albeit with definitive proof of several formations arriving near the western line of contact in Donetsk. A report by a blogger, Voenkor said that the Ukrainian military has purchased and is distributing "hundreds of tons of aviation kerosene" to an airfield near Mirgorod in Poltava oblast.

Another report by Voenkor told of an artillery attack near Mariupol which killed "dozens" of militia, and several attacks inside of Mariupol itself.

Active militia field commander Alexey Mozgovoy of the "Ghost Brigade" was quoted in online sources as saying that Ukrainian troop movements have been spotted near Izium and Artyomovsk in the north. Debaltsevo was said to be a jumping off point for Ukrainian offensive operations.

A report by Russian blogger Anatoly Nesmiyan, known as blogger El Murid, said that Ukrainian mobile troops, described as "an endless stream... of tanks, armored vehicles, artillery and trucks with infantry and ammunition" have been flowing into the settlement known as Marinka Kurakhovo west of Donetsk city under the cover of darkness. Nesmiyan also wrote that Ukrainian troops near the line of contact in western Donetsk city have been withdrawn temporarily to refit with winter clothing.

Not all Russian media believe in a pending Ukrainian offensive.

According to Victor Pastushenko, a writer at Russia Today (Russkaya Sevodnya), other markers seem to indicate that part of the Ukrainian Army's firepower likely to be used in offensive operations is being positioned far beyond their range, such as a BM-21 rocket artillery battery, which had been emplaced at Mount Karachun near Slavyonsk, about 40 kilometers (24 miles) from the Donetsk line of contact. Another BM-21 unit was similarly deployed far beyond its range. As an aside, the redeployment of the rocket artillery units is in accordance with the Minsk agreement, which was supposed to end most of the conflict.

Also according to Pastushenko, owing to the Ukrainian disaster in Ilovaisk the Ukrainian military may not have much stomach for a renewed fight. The militias they faced last summer are no longer raw recruits but hardened fighters, which may give Ukrainian military forces all they want.

Another factor against a renewed offensive is the weather. At the moment the weather in Ukraina is holding at mild and dry, and is expected to remain so for at least a week. Fall rains render military operations everywhere but on paved roads nearly impossible, and winter is a requirement for ground operations as the ground hardens.

Fighting in Donetsk

Militias say that Ukrainian forces attempting to relieve forces at the Donetsk airport were driven back in two separate attacks, according to data supplied by the pro Russian Voice of Sevastopol.

A Ukrainian relief force coming from the north near Trudovskikh was stopped, although that operation was heavily supported with Ukrainian artillery from Peski and Avdeyevka.

Another failed Ukrainian relief mission took place near Petrovka.

Ukrainian artillery attacks were recorded coming from Gorlovka aimed at the town of Mayorka.

Chris Covert writes about foreign military issues for Rantburg.com. He can be reached at grurkka@gmail.com
Posted by: badanov || 10/24/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


Europe
Hunt For Red October Is Over
STOCKHOLM – Swedish authorities called off their weeklong search for a suspected submarine in the Stockholm archipelago Friday, saying the presumed intruder had probably escaped into the Baltic Sea.

Naval and amphibious forces were ordered back to base, while some ground forces remained in the search area, military officials said.

"We assess that the (vessel) that violated our waters has now left," Rear Adm. Anders Grenstad said.
I have a question for the Navy guys out there - how can a sub get out of there without being detected by sonar? Wouldn't any type of propulsion give it away, or am I missing something?
Posted by: Raj || 10/24/2014 14:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Raj, IIRC that area is not exactly ideal for ASW work. The area is an archipelago. Lots of channels and places to hide. The bottom is essentially rock-flow. The currents and water temps are ideal for subs to mask themselves.

Swedish ASW capabilities have also deteriorated. It has no ASW helicopters. Its ASW-capable ships are limited in number.

ASW is a difficult art. You have to keep up on it, constantly. Sweden (and the USN for that matter) hasn't.
Posted by: Pappy || 10/24/2014 14:43 Comments || Top||

#2  Thanks, Pappy!
Posted by: Raj || 10/24/2014 14:55 Comments || Top||

#3  How hard would it be to setup a SOSUS line in the Baltic?
Posted by: Sninerong Hupinemble5552 || 10/24/2014 15:48 Comments || Top||

#4  It's a large shallow area with horrific profiles. Active sonar assets were too few to cover. Dipping sonar was not available.

Over the course of the week maybe a few non-Swedish vessels got a listen for future reference and perhaps a track in, out.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/24/2014 16:25 Comments || Top||

#5  further on Pappy's:
no dedicated shipbased ASW assets except on the small boys. the SH-60Fs from the carriers are
now multimrole (read logistcs/ vertrep/ seal insertion) and there have been no fixed wing ASW since the S3 Vikings were retired. they are in the boneyard and could be ready to go if the political will were there. battle groups protected by the few small boy helos and land based P3/P8
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 10/24/2014 18:48 Comments || Top||

#6  Yokay, I'll bite, once again wasn't this mystery sub identified on the MSM-Net as "Dutch"???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/24/2014 20:37 Comments || Top||


Norway's 'killer robot' technology under fire
The Norwegian government is set to develop a new controversial robot-controlled missile for its fighter jets, but faces opposition from MPs and peace organizations claiming the technology may break international law.

The partially autonomously controlled missiles, or so-called "killer robots", will be used for airborne strikes for its new fighter jets and have the ability to identify targets and make decisions to kill without human interference.
The missile is to be deployed on the F-35. Doesn't a human pilot have to fire the missile? I wouldn't like to be flying an airplane that decides to fire its own missiles; might spill my coffee. The fact that the missile could discriminate between an AK-47 and a baby carriage might be a good thing. Non-robot missiles just go boom after you fire them.
Posted by: Sninerong Hupinemble5552 || 10/24/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sure.
Blame the Automatons.
Posted by: Skidmark || 10/24/2014 11:24 Comments || Top||


Fifth Column
Could Non Citizens Decide The November Election?
My only surprise is the WaPo reporting this before an election.
Could control of the Senate in 2014 be decided by illegal votes cast by non-citizens? Some argue that incidents of voting by non-citizens are so rare as to be inconsequential, with efforts to block fraud a screen for an agenda to prevent poor and minority voters from exercising the franchise, while others define such incidents as a threat to democracy itself. Both sides depend more heavily on anecdotes than data.

In a forthcoming article in the journal Electoral Studies, we bring real data from big social science survey datasets to bear on the question of whether, to what extent, and for whom non-citizens vote in U.S. elections. Most non-citizens do not register, let alone vote. But enough do that their participation can change the outcome of close races.
Posted by: Raj || 10/24/2014 17:14 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Only fitting with an unamerican in the whitehouse
Posted by: Airandee || 10/24/2014 20:09 Comments || Top||

#2  DemoLefty "safe" Legalism says that iff Illegals can qualify for various State-level Public Assistance + Fed Aid, then by definition theres no reason to deny them a right to vote, Locally or Nationally.

Ditto vicey-versey.

ITS CALLED SSSSHHHH ...PCCCCCCCC SETTING "LEGAL PRECEDENCE", PERHAPS MORE PKA INTENTIONAL "LEGAL" CIRCUMVENTION OF LAW + DUE PROCESS.

Another reason for the DemoLefties to NOT talk about the next Year 2015.

D *** NG POPE GREGORY + HIS CALENDAR - WE ALL KNOW THE YEAR 2016 FOLLOWS THE YEAR 2014!
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/24/2014 20:47 Comments || Top||

#3  Why do I feel these are the final stages in a tragedy? Much like the mobilizations that they said they couldn't stop before WWI.
Posted by: DarthVader || 10/24/2014 22:45 Comments || Top||


Greenpeace Gal In O'Keefe Video Gets The Ax
Valley Girl gets shitcanned - one down, more to go!
Greenpeace has fired one of its key Colorado officials, Christen Topping, over her comments condoning the creation of fraudulent ballots using that state’s vote-by-mail system. She went beyond that and told filmmaker James O’Keefe the exact street corner in “ghetto Aurora” where he could find ballots in trash cans that could be fraudulently mailed in. She said residents of the “ghetto” were unlikely to vote because they “don’t really care.”
Posted by: Raj || 10/24/2014 13:52 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Acorn will hire her
Posted by: Frank G || 10/24/2014 14:58 Comments || Top||

#2  OFA! OFA! OFA!
Posted by: Raj || 10/24/2014 15:08 Comments || Top||

#3  Headline is deceptive, I thought another hatchet incident.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/24/2014 15:18 Comments || Top||

#4  No, it's not - 'getting axed' or a variant is pretty common slang for losing your job, getting shitcanned, made redundant, sacked, etc.
Posted by: Raj || 10/24/2014 17:13 Comments || Top||

#5  Sacrificial lamb.
Posted by: Pappy || 10/24/2014 18:13 Comments || Top||


International-UN-NGOs
Plunging oil prices challenge geopolitical, energy industry assumptions
[AMERICA.ALJAZEERA] Global oil prices have fallen 25 percent since June, marking the return of oil-price fluctuation as a geopolitical wild card. Although oil prices have been relatively stable -- about $100 a barrel -- for the past five years, the historical pattern has seen high oil prices boost the strategic clout of producing countries by boosting government coffers, and falling prices have had the opposite effect.

The lower prices of the 1980s and '90s, for example, weakened Russia's geopolitical position, while the more recent increases have boosted Moscow's ability to exert influence over former Soviet republics. Higher prices have enabled Venezuela's leadership to strengthen opposition to U.S. influence throughout Latin America.

Fluctuations have had significant effects on economic growth. The fourfold increase imposed by the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries in 1973 to protest U.S. support for Israel during its war with Egypt and Syria that year boosted the revenues of producing countries while retarding economic growth elsewhere. Subsequent price drops slowed the economies of the producing countries while consumers elsewhere enjoyed an invigorating lift.
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: Fred || 10/24/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The only better news would be Ebola reaching Dar.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/24/2014 1:20 Comments || Top||

#2  Supply, please let me introduce you to Demand.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/24/2014 5:17 Comments || Top||

#3  The writer is Michael Klare who is a leftist professor of peace studies somewhere on the east coast, who is also a writer for The Nation.

The article is full of straw men and false assumptions.

The fact is that oil prices have traditionally been much lower that higher and that a collapse in oil prices was inevitable. In the oile industry when oil prices do collapse, usually companies figure out better ways of extracting oil and will invest in those systems.

Not saying a collapse in oil prices is good news, but I am saying the action on the downhill slide is nearly as good as the upswing.
Posted by: badanov || 10/24/2014 5:56 Comments || Top||

#4  Another feather in the cap of Champ. I'm sure the MSM is giving him credit! Prolly Chris Matthews....
Posted by: Bobby || 10/24/2014 7:29 Comments || Top||

#5  Things may be a bit different AFTER the midterm election.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/24/2014 8:08 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
'Arab Idol' Winner Wants To Give Back To Gaza
[Ynet] Winner of TV talent contest Mohammed Assaf plans to establish arts center in Gazoo for musicians, writers, actors as act of support for hometown. 'My generation is frustrated,' Assaf said.

Last year's feel-good winner of the TV singing contest "Arab Idol" said Wednesday he wants to give back to Gazoo, where he grew up, by setting up an arts center nurturing young musicians, writers and actors.

The center would be funded by Paleostinian Americans who have pledged support, Mohammed Assaf, 24, said in an interview in the Gazoo City office of The News Agency that Dare Not be Named.

"My generation is frustrated," he said. "Everyone I met asked me to help them leave the country. They want to leave because they have no hope.
He said he is waiting for a new Paleostinian unity government to establish a foothold in Gazoo before moving ahead.
In other words, never.
Until recently, the territory was ruled by the Islamic holy warrior group Hamas, always the voice of sweet reason, which has ceded some control.

Since the Hamas takeover of Gazoo in 2007, residents of the crowded territory have endured an Israeli-Egyptian border blockade and three wars between Israel and Hamas.

Assaf, who grew up in Gazoo's Khan Younis refugee camp, catapulted to regional fame after his Arab Idol win and also performed in the US.

He has visited Gazoo twice this year.

"Both times, I found Gazooks to be very sad, but this time I see much more sadness," he said, referring to the period since the summer's war between Israel and Hamas.

"My generation is frustrated," he said. "Everyone I met asked me to help them leave the country. They want to leave because they have no hope. Problems here are so big and complicated. Blockade, division, wars."

Assaf said he felt equally hopeless before last year's competition in Beirut. He couldn't find a job after college and dreamed of getting a civil service job for $300 a month, he said. "Thank God, I had this rare opportunity," he said.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/24/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under: Hamas

#1  First, well done. Gaza needs a culture, and interests outside of the mono-dimensional hatred of Israel. A little tip. Don't let Hamas hide any munitions under the Arts Center, and it might be safe.
Posted by: Incredulous || 10/24/2014 6:06 Comments || Top||


Science & Technology
Ebola at NYC
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/24/2014 01:44 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Strange, very strange. It appears to like large cities.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/24/2014 8:19 Comments || Top||

#2  Yet it doesn't seem to travel to places like India. Curious.
Posted by: BrerRabbit || 10/24/2014 8:21 Comments || Top||

#3  As a doc I'll make two points:

1 -- I hope this young doctor recovers from his Ebola infection.

2 -- Once he does he needs to lose his medical license. He was substantially, repeatedly irresponsible and deserves to be punished for it.

Oh and one more point I'd make if I were in charge, this to Doctors Without Borders: ladies and gents, we're putting a gimlet eye on you. You'd better educate your brethren as to your own, personal "social justice" and responsibilities, or you won't be allowed to return home.
Posted by: Steve White || 10/24/2014 8:57 Comments || Top||

#4  Well said Doctor Steve.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/24/2014 9:00 Comments || Top||

#5  Wellllll now shit just got real to "the important people". It's no longer in rrube flyover country, it's in the City
Posted by: Frank G || 10/24/2014 9:07 Comments || Top||

#6  India has been quarantining anyone who might be infected, for several months.

Real quarantine, not just telling them to stay home.

Otherwise, what we are seeing is people who think they might be infected travelling to developed countries to get better medical care.

A problem that will only get worse.
Posted by: phil_b || 10/24/2014 19:23 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Irony alert: Country where capitalism is most popular is Vietnam
Posted by: frozen al || 10/24/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Our Top Men are monitoring events in Vietnam. Our very Top Men.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/24/2014 6:12 Comments || Top||

#2  So it took 50 years, but we won!
Posted by: Bobby || 10/24/2014 7:24 Comments || Top||

#3  Bobby, if you look at the US today you might want to rethink that.
Posted by: AlanC || 10/24/2014 8:11 Comments || Top||

#4  They've gone from a "communist" country where the party owns everything to a "capitalist" country where the Party's Brother In Law owns everything.

They (and for that matter, we) would all be better off without the various aristocracies pretending to be communist or capitalist or whatever they claim this week.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 10/24/2014 8:18 Comments || Top||

#5  Never happen, Thing.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 10/24/2014 11:55 Comments || Top||

#6  They've gone from a "communist" country where the party owns everything to a "capitalist" country where the Party's Brother In Law owns everything.

Not much different from the Mexican PRI or Illinois.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/24/2014 12:50 Comments || Top||

#7  So this guy is a "man's man" too?
Looks like he spent just enough time in-country to get kicked out.
Posted by: Elmavising Glutle8152 || 10/24/2014 23:59 Comments || Top||



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