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-Land of the Free
This Week in Guns, August 19th, 2017


By Chris Covert
Rantburg.com

It was pretty disheartening to see the abject lies being repeated about the festivities in Charlottesville, Viginia over the week. I watched as US senators pledged their allegiance to a pack of lies and to the left, with the media refusing to entertain any other view.

And it just wasn't national. In my home state of Oklahoma, where every county went for Trump in 2016 (the only true red state in the nation), not 18 hours after the end of the riots, at the capital building in Oklahoma City, remnants of the Obama diehards gathered and pressed the view that all Confederate monuments must be removed because of racism.

I have been in the business of organizing leftists and it is truly like herding cats. That they were able to get 50+ people to show up at the state capital was either a tribute to the organizers' skills or the local news channels received a phone call from Democrat operatives.

In Hershal Smith's blog, one commenter remarked that all the drives, and the riots between the left and the right took place in what he termed 487 counties, which is a reference to the 487 counties nationwide that carried Hillary in 2016. You gotta wonder why.

Maybe they are trying to rally the troops.

Then there is the story of a young man who stood in front of the statue of Robert E. Lee to honor and protect it.

Said Dmitry Olshansky, a Russian in his blog:

A heavy boy with the flag of the Confederation stands motionless in front of the monument to General Lee.

He salutes his stone commander.

And before him is a crowd of supporters of peace, love, tolerance and diversity.

And they, adherents of love, literally crouched from hatred.

They, the admirers of tolerance, yell and scream, and jump in front of the dead boy, and draw their fake hands to him, and try to offend him somehow at least somehow...

But nothing comes out.

The boy stands so calmly, as if there is no monkey garbage in front of him, as if he were alone in the square - and his general.

Who does he look like?

And he looks like a black girl, who as dispassionately passed through the raging racist crowd when she first went to school in the 1950s.

But now another century, and quite different people assert their authority, and they try to trample everyone who does not agree with them.

"Peace and Love," once a way of freedom, have become the rhetoric of humiliation, domination and censorship, and whenever a hypocritical person quotes Nelson Mandela or Martin Luther King, a street herd demolishes monuments, scribbles and scans cheap curses.

The herd is panting with rage.

And the boy is standing.

© Dmitry Olshansky

Not all heroes wear capes.

May God bless this soldier and keep him safe.

Loads.

Rantburg's summary for arms and ammunition:

Pistol ammunition prices were mostly steady. Rifle ammunition prices were mostly steady.

Prices for used pistols were lower. Prices for used rifles were mixed.

New Lows:

Arizona: .45 caliber ACP (M1911 Pattern Semiautomatic Pistol:) Para Ordnance: $350
Texas: 9mm (Beretta 92FS or other Semiautomatic): Taurus G2 PT111: $180

Pistol Ammunition

.45 Caliber, 230 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (6 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Ten Ring, TMJ, Brass Casing, .23 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: SG Ammo, Wolf WPA, FMJ, Steel Casing, .22 per round (From Last Week: +.02 Each After Unchanged (2Q, 2017))

.40 Caliber Smith & Wesson, 180 Grain, From Last Week: +.01 Each
Cheapest, 50 rounds: LAX Ammunition, Own Brand, RN, Brass Casing, .21 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: AGB, Own Brand, RSFP, Brass Casing, Reloads, .18 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2Q, 2017))

9mm Parabellum, 115 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (6 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Outdoor Unlimited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing .15 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Fedarm, Own brand, TMJ, Brass Casing, Reloads .13 per round (From Last Week: -.01 Each (Unchanged (2Q, 2017))

.357 Magnum, 158 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (1Q, 2017)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .23 per round
Cheapest Bulk: 1,000 rounds: Outdoor Unlimited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .23 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (5 Weeks))

.38 Special, 158 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (2Q, 2017)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Armscor, FMJ, Brass Casing, Reloads .24 per round
Cheapest Bulk: 1,000 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Armscor, FMJ, Brass Casing, Reloads .24 per round (From Last Week: +.05 Each After Unchanged (2 Weeks))

Rifle Ammunition

.223 Caliber/5.56mm 55 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (7 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Wolf WPA, FMJ, Steel Casing, .19 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Outdoor Unlimited, Wolf WPA, FMJ, Steel Casing, .19 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (7 Weeks))

.308 NATO 150 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (7 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Outdoor Unlimited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .32 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Outdoor Unlimited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .32 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (8 Weeks))

7.62x39mm AK 123 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (6 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Ammo King, Wolf WPA, FMJ, Steel Casing, .19 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: Outdoor Unlimited, Wolf WPA, Steel Casing, FMJ, .19 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (7 Weeks))

.30-06 Springfield 145 Grain. From Last Week: Unchanged (2Q, 2017)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Outdoor Unlimited, Wolf WPA, Steel Casing, FMJ, .54 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: United Nations Ammo, Wolf WPA, Steel Casing, FMJ, .54 per round (From Last week: Unchanged (1Q, 2017))

.300 Winchester Magnum 150 Grain, From Last Week: -.02 Each After Unchanged (8 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Prvi Partizan, Brass Casing, SP, .80 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: Ammo Liquidator, Winchester, Brass Casing, SP, .81 per round (From Last Week: -.01 Each After Unchanged (4 Weeks))

.338 Lapua Magnum 250 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Selway Armory, Prvi Partizan, Brass Casing, JSP, 2.50 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 960 rounds : Ammo Liquidator, Hornady Superformance, Brass Casing, SP, 2.77 per round (From Last Week: +.31 Each After Unchanged (3 Weeks))

.22 LR 40 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (2Q, 2017)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Ammo Men, Aguila, RNL, .04 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Ammo King, Aguila, RNL, .04 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2Q, 2017))

Guns for Private Sale
Rifles


.223/5.56mm (AR Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $490 Last Week Avg: $475(+) ($616 (2Q, 2015), $387 (4 Weeks))
Arizona (201, 3Q, 2017(+3))(192, 200): Mixed Build: $625 ($625 (CA:$600 (28 Weeks)), $350 (5 Weeks))
Texas (484, 3Q, 2017(+3))(477, 484): Bushmaster JSE: $525 ($700 (1Q, 2015), $350 (2Q, 2015))
Pennsylvania (246, 3Q, 2017(+4))(246, 237): Mixed Build: $400 ($700 (2Q, 2015), $300 (3Q, 2015))
Virginia (282, 3Q, 2017)(257, 257): Anderson Arms: $450 ($750 (1Q, 2015), $400 (10 Weeks))
Florida (679, 3Q, 2017)(650, 669): DPMS Panther: $450 ($650 (2Q, 2015), $380 (1Q, 2015))

.308 NATO (AR-10 Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $915 Last Week Avg: $910(+) ($1,359 (2Q, 2015), $766 (12 Weeks))
Arizona (47, 3Q, 2017(+5))(47, 46): Bushmaster: $1,400 ($2,300 (10 Weeks), $650 (33 Weeks))
Texas (178, 3Q, 2017)(147, 148): DPMS: $800 ($1,500 (4Q, 2014), $700 (3Q, 2016))
Pennsylvania (54, 3Q, 2017)(51, 52): DPMS: $750 ($1,600 (41 Weeks), $700 (3Q, 2015))
Virginia (86, 3Q, 2017)(63, 66): Palmetto State Armory: $900 ($2,750 (1Q, 2016), $750 (26 Weeks))
Florida (128, 3Q, 2017(+3))(123, 125): Palmetto State Armory: $725 ($1,950 (2Q, 1016), $500 (3Q, 2015))

7.62x39mm (AK Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $500 Last Week Avg: $513(-) ($668 (49 Weeks), $450 (3Q, 2015))
Arizona (28, 3Q, 2017)(28, 28): RAS-47: $550 ($900 (11 Weeks), $400 (16 Weeks))
Texas (141, 3Q, 2017)(112, 111): CAI C39 Sporter: $500 ($800 (1Q, 2016), $350 (3Q, 2014))
Pennsylvania (75, 3Q, 2017)(60, 65): Century C39: $500 ($750 (1Q, 2015), $375 (1Q, 2015))
Virginia (72, 3Q, 2017)(63, 670): IO: $450 ($700 (2Q, 2016), $350 (1Q, 2015))
Florida (146, 3Q, 2017)(132, 140): Zastava M70 N-PAP: $500 ($700 (1Q, 2016), $300 (4Q, 2014))

30-30 Winchester Lever Action Average Price: $360 Last Week Avg: $360(=) ($495 (45 Weeks), $296 (3Q, 2015))
Arizona (14, 3Q, 2017)(13, 14): Winchester 94: $400 ($500 (30 Weeks), $200 (15 Weeks))
Texas (32, 3Q, 2017)(31, 32): Marlin: $325 ($550 (1Q, 2015), $295 (15 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (23, 3Q, 2017)(16, 16): Marlin: $350 ($450 (1Q, 2015), $250 (4Q, 2014))
Virginia (17, 3Q, 2017)(15, 12): Winchester Model 94: $400 ($670 (2Q, 2016), $250 (4Q, 2015))
Florida (34, 3Q, 2017)(28, 32): Winchester 94: $325 ($500 (1Q, 2015), $250 (2Q, 2015))

Pistols

.45 caliber ACP (M1911 Pattern Semiautomatic Pistol) Average Price: $375 Last Week Avg: $525(-) ($525 (51 Weeks), $350 (4Q, 2015))
Arizona (127, 3Q, 2017(+2))(127, 116): Para Ordnance: $350 ($700 (15 Weeks)), $350 ($350 (CA: 8 Weeks)))
Texas (361, 3Q, 2017 (+2))(332, 347): Para Ordnance: $350 ($600 (4Q, 2014)), $300 (37 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (178, 3Q, 2017)(158, 161): Taurus 1911: $300 ($600 (2 Weeks)), $300 (2Q, 2015))
Virginia (197, 3Q, 2017)(188, 185): Iver Johnson: $475 ($775 (2 Weeks)), $250 (4Q, 2014))
Florida (440, 3Q, 2017)(396, 399): Taurus: $400 ($500 (1Q, 2016), $250 (1Q, 2015))

9mm (Beretta 92FS or other Semiautomatic) Average Price: $226 Last Week Avg: $256(-) ($358 (1Q, 2016), $207 (15 Weeks))
Arizona (238, 3Q, 2017)(234, 230): Sar Arms B6P: $300 ($400 (21 Weeks), $200 (5 Weeks))
Texas (576, 3Q, 2017(+2))(558, 576): Taurus G2 PT111: $180 ($355 (1Q, 2015), $180 (CA: $199 (16 Weeks)))
Pennsylvania (368, 3Q, 2017)(347, 358): Taurus PT111 G2: $200 ($350 (4Q 2014), $150 (26 Weeks))
Virginia (340, 3Q, 2017)(323, 329): Taurus 709 Slim: $200 ($425 (4Q, 2016), $189 (2Q, 2016))
Florida (827, 3Q, 2017)(816, 810): Ruger P89: $250 ($400 (1Q, 2016), $160 (15 Weeks))

.40 caliber S&W (Glock or other semiautomatic) Average Price: $284 Last Week Avg: $285(-) ($399 (1Q, 2016), $262 (2Q, 2016))
Arizona (77, 3Q, 2017(+2))(69, 68): Walther PPS: $325 ($500 (31 Weeks), $195 (11 Weeks))
Texas (156, 3Q, 2017(+2))(154, 156): Bersa BP40CC: $295 ($425 (4Q, 2014), $200 (35 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (108, 3Q, 2017)(96, 98): Bersa Mini Firestorm: $250 ($450 (2Q, 2016), $200 (51 Weeks))
Virginia (93, 3Q, 2017(+2))(89, 91): Ruger P94: $300 ($450 (2Q, 2015), $275 (1Q, 2015))
Florida (193, 3Q, 2017(+3))(186, 184): Smith & Wesson SD40VE: $250 ($400 (1Q, 2015), $199 (4Q, 2015))

Used Gun of the Week: (Virginia)
Smith & Wesson Model 66-6 pistol chambered in .357 Magnum
Posted by: badanov || 08/19/2017 00:00 || Comments || Link || [12 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "...the riots between the left and the right took place in what he termed 487 counties, which is a reference to the 487 counties nationwide that carried Hillary in 2016. You gotta wonder why."

Hillary got skunked when you look at the counties Trump carried versus those Hillary carried. One reason we have an electoral college is to prevent the most populous states and cities from always determining the election outcome.

How are gun sales as the result of the recent statue tear-downs and riots? Usually, they increase.

Fort Sumter redux?
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/19/2017 8:24 Comments || Top||

#2  Human Events - .223 Remington vs. 5.56 NATO: What You Don’t Know Could Hurt You

BLUF: Simply follow the caliber that is stamped on the barrel and do not deviate. (possible exception - .357 also fires .38, .38 Special, and .38+P).

Some AR's will be stamped 5.56 and .223 but most bolt action firearms will be stamped .223 (only).

Someone please correct me if my info is incorrect or out of date.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/19/2017 8:34 Comments || Top||

#3  I haven't looked into it much, but my understanding is that the 5.56mm can be fired in the .223, but not the other way round.

Maybe Skid knows.
Posted by: badanov || 08/19/2017 9:11 Comments || Top||

#4  .223 has a SAMMI standard spec for chamber pressure.
.556 NATO is loaded hotter by many manufacturers for greater velocities.

So, 223 in a 556 chamber: OK.
556 in a 223 should be approached with caution.
Posted by: Skidmark || 08/19/2017 10:36 Comments || Top||

#5  SAAMI here.
Note their centerfire rifle spec has 223 but not 556.
NRA explores the cartridge here.
Posted by: Skidmark || 08/19/2017 11:02 Comments || Top||


Finally, New York Times columnist David Brooks appears in his natural medium
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 08/19/2017 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I always get the guy mixed up with David Brock.
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/19/2017 7:59 Comments || Top||

#2  Thought it was gonna be a mugshot.
Posted by: Skidmark || 08/19/2017 10:11 Comments || Top||

#3  I thought it was going to be a weasel den.
Posted by: SteveS || 08/19/2017 14:41 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
White House lawyer Cobb predicts quick end to Mueller probe
[Reuters] WASHINGTON (Reuters) - White House special counsel Ty Cobb predicts the cloud of an investigation into Russian meddling in the U.S. election will soon be lifted from President Donald Trump and says he would be "embarrassed" if it still hangs over the president in 2018.

Cobb told Reuters this week that he talks to Trump on an almost daily basis and has been in contact with the team of Robert Mueller, the special counsel leading the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

Mueller is investigating possible collusion between Trump's campaign team and Russia, as well as possible money laundering by at least one former aide.

But Cobb, who resigned from law firm Hogan Lovells to take the White House job on July 31, said in interviews on Tuesday and Wednesday he believed Mueller's probe was "narrow" and that by the end of the year Trump should no longer be threatened by it.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/19/2017 03:46 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Special counsel should have never started and after starting, it should have come to a quick end before now. Mr. Cobb, I wouldn't be so sure it will come to a quick end. It benefits the Dems to continue Mueller's special counsel witch hunt/kangaroo court as long as they can.
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/19/2017 8:09 Comments || Top||

#2  How will we know its over? Its not like the media will mention it.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 08/19/2017 9:54 Comments || Top||

#3  I think Brannon's departure will assure we have access to the pulse of the planet. He has been stifled too long.
Posted by: Skidmark || 08/19/2017 10:08 Comments || Top||

#4  They will need cold steel, a stake through the heart and garlic, maybe some wolfsbane as well, to finish off this monster. The forces behind Mueller want to prolong this past the Midterm Elections at the minimum and it will require force to stop them.
Posted by: magpie || 08/19/2017 11:16 Comments || Top||

#5  Cold steel, not silver?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/19/2017 11:24 Comments || Top||

#6  So what they look for now is a situation where an employee or visitor picks up one of the commemorative notepads /glasses /whatever and Trump tells them, "Go ahead".
Presto: Conspiracy to defraud the Federal Government.
Posted by: ed in texas || 08/19/2017 12:00 Comments || Top||

#7  g(r)omgoru: Cold steel, not silver?
When fighting the Unseelie Court use iron and blessed weapons. Note that members of this cabal all recoil at the presence of Holy Scripture, makes you wonder, hmmm?
Posted by: magpie || 08/19/2017 13:48 Comments || Top||

#8  Than it should be "cold iron" not "cold steel"
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/19/2017 13:52 Comments || Top||

#9  I'm thinking that Trump is putting up with the Mueller probe because it makes a nice distraction for the MSM while Trump is getting real work done without MSM attention.
Posted by: Seeking cure for ignorance || 08/19/2017 14:05 Comments || Top||

#10  The Mueller probe will not stop until it sends SOMEBODY to jail, or until there are enough Democrats in Congress to impeach Trump. It really doesn't matter who goes to jail - one of the Trump family, or one of Trump's staff, as long as someone goes to jail.

Just like Scooter Libby, in the Valerie Plame "affair".
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia || 08/19/2017 19:16 Comments || Top||

#11  I agree Rambler, after spending all the $$$ and time they can't come home empty handed.
Posted by: Jan || 08/19/2017 20:00 Comments || Top||

#12  I agree Rambler, after spending all the $$$ and time they can't come home empty handed.
Posted by Jan


"Can't come home empty handed?"

After seven years and countless hours of congressional time and taxpayer dollars spent on 'repealing' Obamacare with nothing to show for it, I'm not so sure. You may be giving the swamp too much credit.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/19/2017 20:11 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Lincoln's Gettysburg Address
[AbrahamLincolnOnline] It is often good to reflect on the wisdom of the past. Lincoln's Gettysburg Address is one of those documents that was heartfelt but succinct by the another POTUS. Today, we might see partisans bicker about whether or not the speech was enough. Is presented but here once again. I hope that it has not taken up too much time or space.

Lincoln gave his famous speech at Gettysburg in 1863. The speech was aimed at a healing of a nation. The speech was 272 words and said nothing about whether the dead wore the blue or the gray. He recognized their contribution and ultimate sacrifice for what they believed. One can argue about the righteousness of the cause for which they fought but that was not Lincoln's purpose; his intent was to heal a nation badly injured by a hard fought Civil War. Gettysburg became a monument to those who "gave the last full measure of devotion." The address and the monument that followed was to honor the dead at Gettysburg on both sides. It is a speech calling for unity and healing and not division and hatred.

We are at another crossroads. Do we want to give in to stupidity and division or to unity and respect for each other?

It is a time for tolerance and not a time to besmirch the symbols of the past. You can associate the symbols of the past with hatred in your mind if you choose, but remember there are others who associate these symbols with the love for lost relatives and their bravery and sacrifice. These symbols commemorate the men and women who were often brothers, sisters, wives, and husbands. Some were fathers and mothers; perhaps to children who would never again know them. For some, these hallowed places today are places to go to remember and to honor those who were dear to them. For many it is a part of their personal family history. These places are similar to the Vietnam Memorial today--a place to remember, reflect and to heal the wounds of an important part of the past.

Bliss Copy

Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

Abraham Lincoln
November 19, 1863
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/19/2017 14:29 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


SARAH HOYT: Strange Days in America
...I don't believe left crazies greatly outnumber right crazies because we keep seeing ads recruiting for these "actions" and they pay damn well too. Even communists must obey the laws of economics. If they were so hot and eager they'd not need to be paid besides, perhaps, bus fare.

Someone pointed out our prisons are hardcore recruitment services for white supremacists. And yet, there are twenty thousand that are willing to actually go on record as white supremacists and who get involved in the "cause."

Our schools, all of them, are hardcore recruitment centers for Marxists. I know. I read my kids' school books. They were worse than mine under a hardcore Marxist regime. People who aren't Marxists haven't been minding the store for long enough that everything from economics to history is hardcore neo-Marxist. Even people on the right are contaminated. From the idea that revolutions spontaneously happen when oppression gets "bad" enough to the idea of fixed pie economics, people who are supposedly on the right keep regurgitating this.
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/19/2017 14:48 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


IMAO: Cartoon of the Day
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/19/2017 06:11 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Virtue signalling at its most contemptuous abounds today by those who never paid the price.

Instructions had been given; and when the head of each division column comes opposite our group, our bugle sounds the signal and instantly our whole line from right to left, regiment by regiment in succession, gives the soldiers salutation, from the "order arms" to the old "carry"--the marching salute. Gordon at the head of the column, riding with heavy spirit and. downcast face, catches the sound of shifting arms, looks up, and, taking the meaning, wheels superbly, making with himself and his horse one uplifted figure, with profound salutation as he drops the point of his sword to the boot toe; then facing to his own command, gives word for his successive brigades to pass us with the same position of the manual,--honor answering honor. On our part not a sound of trumpet more, nor roll of drum; not a cheer, nor word nor whisper of vain-glorying, nor motion of man standing again at the order, but an awed stillness rather, and breath-holding, as if it were the passing of the dead! - Joshua Chamberlain

as Insty would say read the whole thing. These were the men who had been killing each other for years. They showed more respect for each other than our contemporary 'nattering nabobs of negativism'.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 08/19/2017 7:34 Comments || Top||

#2  A spirit of national masochism prevails, encouraged by an effete corps of impudent snobs who characterize themselves as intellectuals.



P2k, your key word is men. There are few of them left.
Posted by: AlanC || 08/19/2017 8:25 Comments || Top||

#3  They showed more respect for each other than our contemporary 'nattering nabobs of negativism'.

True. These "nattering nabobs of negativism" seem to lack much ideology which drives them. Many are anarchists--they just want to tear everything down. Many are paid protesters. Many are Obama and Hillary followers wanting to hang on to the Deep State. One thing they have in common is a lemming-like drive for destruction and chaos. To continue on an unknown path with little guidance as to where they are going is fool-hearty. It is like jumping off a cliff and hoping you will have a good landing. Once the genie is out of the bottle, there is no getting it back in.
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/19/2017 8:37 Comments || Top||

#4  Google "nihilists", JQC
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/19/2017 8:48 Comments || Top||

#5  These were the men who had been killing each other for years. They showed more respect for each other than our contemporary 'nattering nabobs of negativism'.

They were unenlightened men, Ballard knew them not.
They procured their swords and guns chiefly on the spot;
And the lore of centuries, plus a hundred fights,
Made them slow to disregard one another's rights.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/19/2017 9:01 Comments || Top||

#6  One thing missing from today is the TOTAL ABSENCE of Stoicism.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 08/19/2017 10:06 Comments || Top||

#7  The way I see it, BP, every time I debate things with a leftwinger and refrain from comparing (unfavorably) she/he/it (out loud) to a dog, is an act of supreme self control i.e., stoicism.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/19/2017 10:32 Comments || Top||

#8  g(r)omgoru "Nihilists" is a nice descriptive word for these thugs and criminals.
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/19/2017 11:06 Comments || Top||


Sarah Hoyt: No More White Knights
I’m starting to get really tired of White Knights.

You’ve seen these gentlemen. They rush in, when they perceive someone as being in danger, and pavane around with grandeur, proclaim their goodness and wonderfulness, and their willingness to defend the helpless. And nine times out of ten, leave, full of honor and glory, leaving things worse than they found them.

Except the modern versions don’t ask you if you are helpless, they just assume. And they don’t do anything except signal their virtue and their willingness to defend you. Oh, they might take the opportunity to bash a few of their personal enemies, perhaps by claiming that they are your enemies too.

They’ve been all over recently. Yes, sure, there are many minorities online, who, having fully imbibed the Kool-Aid, are now merrily calling everyone a Nazi on the slimmest of pretexts. But most such offenders are in fact lily white and convinced of their own special wonderfulness. It was a lily white and, if I had to guess, upper middle class young man who took it upon himself to tell me I should be grateful to Antifa for saving me from vile speech.

Well, this first generation, immigrant Latina is not grateful. Do you know why she is not grateful? Because no one asked you to defend me. Certainly no one asked a communist front group with a frightening penchant for violence and vandalism to defend me. And if I wanted to be defended it wouldn’t be from speech, vile or not. It would be from active, physical aggression, which communists are at least as likely (and possibly more) to engage in than the crazy racists.

I’m no more acceptable to communists than I am to the Nazis. The Nazis would reject me on account of my origins and the fact that I can tan really dark when I get out of the office and into the rays of the evil day star. And Antifa would reject me because I think people who attack their fellow citizens are despicable and their theories of power and wealth are wrong and based on the crazy theories of Marx, the most overrated dead white man ever. And because I’m tired of their trying to impose their ignorance and cultish beliefs on the rest of us.

I don’t want either side to defend me from the other. I accept that both have the right to say whatever they please, and I hope they do it far away from me. If they come to my attention, I am entitled to make fun of them by all means available.

Because you see, I’m not delicate, I’m not helpless, and I don’t need a white knight.

...Because you know, all those allies who come in "white knighting" it to defend women and minorities, don’t really want to defend women and minorities.

They most of all want to claim victimhood. They think America and non-minorities are somehow evil. And the only way they can wash off that evil is to identify with a minority and defend it tooth and nail.

Second, they want the glory and virtue that comes from being "enlightened" and "helping" minorities.
Don't forget that, nowadays, being an "outspoken" (hysterically semi-incoherent) leftist is a key to a white collar job - not just in public sector.
...They are the privileged, coddled, praised products of self esteem education. And they’ll trample anyone, demean anyone, destroy anyone, and bring down their own country in an effort to continue thinking of themselves as the best, the brightest and the kindest people who ever lived.

The expression behind the great, shining helm of the white knight is a smirk of superiority.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/19/2017 04:53 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  And Antifa would reject me because I think people who attack their fellow citizens are despicable and their theories of power and wealth are wrong and based on the crazy theories of Marx, the most overrated dead white man ever.  And because I’m tired of their trying to impose their ignorance and cultish beliefs on the rest of us.

Sarah Hoyt, a voice of wisdom amongst the barbarians.
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/19/2017 8:41 Comments || Top||

#2  It's a matter of perspective, Mr Citizen.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/19/2017 9:03 Comments || Top||

#3  I like Sarah. I agree with a lot that she says, and she's a good writer.
She does seem to to be safety-wired to the 'Rant' position, though.
Posted by: ed in texas || 08/19/2017 10:32 Comments || Top||

#4  G(r)om, I suppose it is a matter of perspective. I have not read much of her writings; I was reacting to what I posted. I'm a bit tired of those who impose their ignorance and cultish beliefs on the rest of us. These mobs are not about free speech and individual rights. They would rob the rest of us of our freedoms in a New York minute.
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/19/2017 11:03 Comments || Top||

#5  John, all I meant by this is that: having grown in different culture, and being a natural born odd & a scholar, she has a different angle of view. To take one example - most Americans, even most conservatives, behave as if slavery/discrimination is something unique to USA. Now, I can't speak for Hoyt - but, I personally, believe that "African-Americans" have no idea what real suffering is.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/19/2017 11:23 Comments || Top||

#6  A lot of them do, but because their primary dominant culture consists of torturing each other and blaming whitey for the results, they never actually get around to doing anything to change the situation.

The whole statue controversy is an extension of this; it's something to soak up the energy and let the Mitch Landrieus of the world pretend they're actually helping black people instead of f___ing them over.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 08/19/2017 12:43 Comments || Top||

#7  Ironically, they're fighting for a political system that is f'ing them over, just like the confederate soldiers of a century and a half ago.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 08/19/2017 12:45 Comments || Top||

#8  The whole statue controversy is an extension of this

Which brings on a question - how many African-Americans are for Confederate statues removal?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/19/2017 12:59 Comments || Top||

#9  Now, I can't speak for Hoyt - but, I personally, believe that "African-Americans" have no idea what real suffering is.

I didn't mean to imply offense or to take offense.

Today we all have it exceptionally good in this country despite attempts by the left to create victim groups. I don't think there is much suffering in this country by African-Americans or anyone. There may have been suffering and deprivation in the past but not much today. I think there are people who often make bad choices that make future life more difficult. And sometimes things just happen and we have to dig ourselves out. There is opportunity here those who want to work. You try something and sometimes you fail. You learn from past history and then you try something else. But yes, I don't think African-Americans today have any idea about real suffering.
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/19/2017 14:14 Comments || Top||

#10  Put a Serb and a Croat in the same room and see what happens....but that's o.k...must be their whiteness.
Posted by: DooDahMan || 08/19/2017 15:03 Comments || Top||

#11  Which brings on a question - how many African-Americans are for Confederate statues removal?

I don't know. But for additional relevant information, I'd suggest reading the following; I'm going to chance copying this over rather than copying all the links...

https://news.google.com/news/search/section/q/new%20orleans%20pumps/new%20orleans%20pumps?hl=en&ned=us

tl;dr: After spending probably over a hundred billion dollars spent rebuilding New Orleans, it's still an accident waiting to happen.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 08/19/2017 17:36 Comments || Top||

#12  how many African-Americans are for Confederate statues removal?

I saw a poll quoted that said 44% of African-Amreicans think they should be left alone -- I'm afraid I don't have the details. The push for this is coming from white Progressives white knighting the issue.
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/19/2017 18:52 Comments || Top||

#13  Amreicans

Americans. For some reason I am having a dreadful time catching that typo at the moment. :-(
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/19/2017 19:02 Comments || Top||

#14  DooDaaMan, once upon a time there was a holding 'prison' of sorts at Gitmo (long before they started storing Muslims there), filled with most Carribean types who had been caught 'doin off', as they say. The two largest populations were Dominicans and Puerto Ricans.
Some helpful soul decided that a sports program would help to calm things and keep people occupied. So they formed baseball teams.
The riot that ensued after the Doms beat the PR's in the final game caused the USMC garrison (Gitmo, remember) to call in backup troops from as far away as LeJune.
After that, it was decided that soccer would be better. No bats and all.
Posted by: ed in texas || 08/19/2017 20:14 Comments || Top||


Government
Federal contracting explained simply
[SenseofEvents] The mayor of a small town in a middle America state had a problem. The old bridge, which was the only way out of town, was in a state of disrepair and needed to be rebuilt.

So he called in three contractors to bid on the job: one from Cincinnati, one from New York, and one from Washington, D.C.

"$3 million," said the man from Cincinnati. "$1.5 million for the supplies. $1.5 million for the labor."

Next, the Mayor met with the New York contractor, and asked him: "How much to build the bridge?"

"$6 million," said the New Yorker. "$3 million for the supplies. $3 million for the labor."

Finally, the Mayor brought in the contractor from Washington D.C., and asked him: "How much to build the bridge?"

"$9 million," said the man from Washington.

"$9 million," the Mayor repeated, aghast. "That's three times more expensive than the lowest bid. How do you break that down?"

"Easy," said the Washingtonian. "$3 million for you. $3 million for me. And $3 million to hire the guy from Cincinnati."
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/19/2017 03:35 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Cookie grab
Posted by: Ackoopmed || 08/19/2017 8:36 Comments || Top||

#2  It was explained simply. I had doubts at first when reading the headline.
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/19/2017 11:10 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
The Democrats' Dangerous Dolchstosslegende
[FrontPageMagazine] The Democrats went into the election certain that they were going to win. The New York Times rated Hillary’s chances at 93%. The Huffington Post raised that to 98%. That was still too modest for Obama campaign manager David Plouffe who predicted a 100% likelihood of Hillary winning.

It wasn’t strategy or statistics that made the Dems think that victory was certain. It was ideology.

Obama had spent two terms telling them that they were on the "right side of history". The more the Dems swung left, the closer to the right side of history they were. Their leftist views were naturally superior. They were based on science while their opponents were superstitious buffoons. They were enlightened while their enemies were bigots. They were smart and conservatives were dumb.

Delusions of superiority had convinced them that Republicans couldn’t win an honest election. When Bush won, it was because his brother and the Supreme Court had rigged the election. The Republican victories that swept much of the country were only due to voter suppression and redistricting.

The Democrats had allowed themselves to believe that they were so innately superior that they couldn’t lose an election except through fraud or dirty tricks. The humiliating defeats of McGovern, Carter, Mondale and Dukakis were all in the past. They had gone so far to the left that they couldn’t lose.

They had confused ideology with electability. The fallacy of fanatics is the conviction that their beliefs explain reality. And that following their beliefs must therefore lead to a successful outcome.

Leftists had convinced themselves that winning elections was an inevitable as the success of ObamaCare and the rejuvenation of the economy. Their media became a propaganda echo chamber filled with their own assurances of inevitable victory. But ObamaCare failed, the economy lingered and Trump won.

Instead of realizing that they had been lying to themselves, they seized on conspiracy theories.

Convinced of their natural superiority, members of the Master Party believed that their subjective contempt for Republicans in general and Trump specifically was an objective truth. It wasn’t that they despised conservatives. No, conservatives were inherently despicable. And Trump was so despicable and so absurd that he just had to lose. It was inconceivable that he couldn’t have lost. So he had lost.

Human beings don’t react well to having their egomaniacal fantasies come apart around them.

After losing World War I, many Germans seized on the Dolchstosslegende or the Stab-in-the-Back theory to explain what happened. The German military didn’t lose the war. It was undermined and stabbed in the back. Otherwise, despite the collapse of its allies and the entry of the United States, it would have won. The Nazis rode the Dolchstosslegende all the way into power. And to an even more devastating defeat in an even more devastating war all while trying to disprove the fact that America, the United Kingdom, France and Russia really could beat them in a war once there were no more Jews in Germany.

You can deny reality, but reality always wins.

Unsurprisingly, the Dolchstosslegende was most popular with German military leaders. Likewise the Democrat Dolchstosslegende arose from the ranks of Hillary’s campaign leaders. It’s those in charge of the losing team who have the most incentive to blame anyone and everyone else. The Nazis blamed a long list of people including the Jews. The Democrats blamed everyone from the FBI to the Russians.

Hillary has become another Hindenburg touting her own Dolchstosslegende. Her latest book, ’What Happpened’, will put the Dolchstosslegende into print. It will list everyone who lost the election for her. ’What Happened’ may be an awkward title, but calling it ’Mein Kampaign’ might have been a bit much.

The Hillary Dolchstosslegende tearing apart our country passes itself off as patriotism. The Nazis claimed that they were patriots too. But Dolchstosslegendes aren’t patriotic. They’re exercises in divisiveness by losers who don’t want to take responsibility for their stupidity, incompetence and hypocrisy.

Hillary went from pressing a reset button with one of Putin’s minions to a posthumous political campaign claiming that Putin had rigged the election. Never mind that even if Russian hackers did leak Podesta’s emails, less than 1% of Americans have any idea who Podesta is or cared about the contents of his chats. But Podesta’s emails embarrassed the future promoters of the Dolchstosslegende.
Continues.
Posted by: Anomalous Sources || 08/19/2017 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Real Nationalists don't annex other countries.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 08/19/2017 6:58 Comments || Top||

#2  The Democrats had allowed themselves to believe that they were so innately superior that they couldn’t lose an election. To continue this charade, they ensured election outcomes through fraud and dirty tricks. FIFY.

This time it didn't work.
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/19/2017 8:05 Comments || Top||

#3  The Democrats had allowed themselves to believe that they were so innately superior that they couldn’t lose an election.
When you fall victim to the intellectual arrogance of Progressivism you become a Prophet of the Future! A Prophet! A Chosen One! When the Other Side wins, who surely must be evil, They Must Have Cheated™!
Philanthropists can be reasoned with while zealots only have crusades...
Posted by: magpie || 08/19/2017 11:22 Comments || Top||

#4  The Democrats' Dangerous Dolchstosslegende

IMO, the most dangerous thing about pseudo-homo sinistrus
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/19/2017 13:35 Comments || Top||

#5  IMO, the most dangerous thing about pseudo-homo sinistrus is their self-esteem.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/19/2017 13:36 Comments || Top||

#6  Republican behavior always give the Dems overconfidence. Not sure what the complaint is as Obamacare will go no where and taxes will never get cut.
Posted by: Airandee || 08/19/2017 19:17 Comments || Top||

#7  pseudo-homo sinistrus

Very clever.
Posted by: Large Hapsburg1264 || 08/19/2017 19:37 Comments || Top||



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